Miltonaggro Posted 14 December, 2024 Posted 14 December, 2024 19 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: What on earth makes him qualified for that? He's 71 and hasn't been involved in football management in any role for coming on twenty years now. Bless…
egg Posted 14 December, 2024 Posted 14 December, 2024 24 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: What on earth makes him qualified for that? He's 71 and hasn't been involved in football management in any role for coming on twenty years now. I wouldn't want him here personally, but it's pretty obvious that a a 71 year old who has played and managed at the top level, and has stayed close to the game in the media, is qualified to be involved. 3
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 14 December, 2024 Posted 14 December, 2024 4 minutes ago, egg said: I wouldn't want him here personally, but it's pretty obvious that a a 71 year old who has played and managed at the top level, and has stayed close to the game in the media, is qualified to be involved. As old as Bobby Robson, Roy Hodgson and Alex Ferguson when they were managing in the PL, and only a year or two more than several others. 3
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 14 December, 2024 Posted 14 December, 2024 36 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: What on earth makes him qualified for that? He's 71 and hasn't been involved in football management in any role for coming on twenty years now. As opposed to the twats we have running the asylum now you mean? 2
Lighthouse Posted 14 December, 2024 Posted 14 December, 2024 9 minutes ago, egg said: I wouldn't want him here personally, but it's pretty obvious that a a 71 year old who has played and managed at the top level, and has stayed close to the game in the media, is qualified to be involved. He’s a decent pundit but why anyone thinks he’s qualified as a technical/sporting director/DoF in 2024 I’ve no idea. He has no experience of that kind of role and hasn’t managed a team at all since being sacked by Newcastle 18 years ago.
Lighthouse Posted 14 December, 2024 Posted 14 December, 2024 5 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: As old as Bobby Robson, Roy Hodgson and Alex Ferguson when they were managing in the PL, and only a year or two more than several others. He’s the age Fergie and Bobby were when they retired. Not exactly fresh ideas and building for the future. 7 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: As opposed to the twats we have running the asylum now you mean? Who decided they were the only two options?
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 14 December, 2024 Posted 14 December, 2024 4 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: Who decided they were the only two options? Don't think I said they were. I was putting the opinion across that Souness, despite his age and your self percieved judgement that he is not equipped for the role, would be much better than anyone SR have in situ at the moment. 2
Lighthouse Posted 14 December, 2024 Posted 14 December, 2024 3 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: Don't think I said they were. I was putting the opinion across that Souness, despite his age and your self percieved judgement that he is not equipped for the role, would be much better than anyone SR have in situ at the moment. Complete conjecture, you’ve no reason to think Souness would be much better than anyone. We could be fighting Pompey for relegation this season, having finished mid-table in the Championship last year and been forced to sell anyone half decent in summer. SR are getting it wrong, no doubt, but this is far from the worst that things could possibly have been.
egg Posted 14 December, 2024 Posted 14 December, 2024 2 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: Complete conjecture, you’ve no reason to think Souness would be much better than anyone. We could be fighting Pompey for relegation this season, having finished mid-table in the Championship last year and been forced to sell anyone half decent in summer. SR are getting it wrong, no doubt, but this is far from the worst that things could possibly have been. We could be next season. Souness ain't the answer for us though. The wrong man, yep, unqualified, no. 2
Lord Duckhunter Posted 14 December, 2024 Posted 14 December, 2024 It was a well written decent article, no way was it an “in my day’ hatchet job. The article started with Souness speaking as a spectator, how he turned over from watching Champions league tippy tappy Lego type ball, to watch a championship game. He then explained how it was different in his day, but how they were told to get it into the “badge kissers” early. Saying that Ronnie Moran used to stop the game after too many sideways passes, saying “that’s old mans football, I could play that”. He then broadened this to Lego, saying only the best could play this way, before questioning why Lego announces he won’t change & how this helps our opponent because they’ll know how we’ll play. He ends it by saying Real Madrid changed against City, went long and beat them, saying “that’s management “. It added to the debate. So what if he’s in his 70’s, you wouldn’t dismiss Paul McCartneys views on modern music with “ what’s that old cunt know about writing songs, he hasn’t had a hit for 40 years”. 12
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 14 December, 2024 Posted 14 December, 2024 11 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: Complete conjecture, you’ve no reason to think Souness would be much better than anyone. We could be fighting Pompey for relegation this season, having finished mid-table in the Championship last year and been forced to sell anyone half decent in summer. SR are getting it wrong, no doubt, but this is far from the worst that things could possibly have been. I didn't say he would be the answer, but we need people of that ilk from a footballing background. 1
Miltonaggro Posted 14 December, 2024 Posted 14 December, 2024 14 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: Complete conjecture, you’ve no reason to think Souness would be much better than anyone. We could be fighting Pompey for relegation this season, having finished mid-table in the Championship last year and been forced to sell anyone half decent in summer. SR are getting it wrong, no doubt, but this is far from the worst that things could possibly have been. In the original post I was replying to LD’s comment on Souness and mentioned his character: ‘He’s just the type that sport republic need as Director of Football’ So ‘just the type’ not an option, that would be silly, and a non starter for GS by since his second heart attack. Any conjecture or post conjecture berating of other posters seems to be based on your reaction. 3
Lighthouse Posted 14 December, 2024 Posted 14 December, 2024 2 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said: It was a well written decent article, no way was it an “in my day’ hatchet job. The article started with Souness speaking as a spectator, how he turned over from watching Champions league tippy tappy Lego type ball, to watch a championship game. He then explained how it was different in his day, but how they were told to get it into the “badge kissers” early. Saying that Ronnie Moran used to stop the game after too many sideways passes, saying “that’s old mans football, I could play that”. He then broadened this to Lego, saying only the best could play this way, before questioning why Lego announces he won’t change & how this helps our opponent because they’ll know how we’ll play. He ends it by saying Real Madrid changed against City, went long and beat them, saying “that’s management “. It added to the debate. So what if he’s in his 70’s, you wouldn’t dismiss Paul McCartneys views on modern music with “ what’s that old cunt know about writing songs, he hasn’t had a hit for 40 years”. Nobody is dismissing Souness’ views on football, he’s a decent pundit who’s well worth listening to. However I wouldn’t want him as sporting director of my football club any more than I’d want Paul McCarthy as director of my record label.
Galway saint Posted 14 December, 2024 Posted 14 December, 2024 I like Souness as a person and pundit - he seems a decent human being. Would he be a better coach than RM ? Probably 1
Badger Posted 14 December, 2024 Posted 14 December, 2024 7 hours ago, Miltonaggro said: More likely Steve ‘gene pool’ Cooper to be honest, Potter possibly knocking on farmhouse door on a hiking holiday looking to buy some fudge. ??? Have I missed something or are we already stockpiling the insults, just in case he is appointed?
Lord Duckhunter Posted 14 December, 2024 Posted 14 December, 2024 (edited) 7 points and 8 worse GD than Ipswich before Xmas. Shocking performance, just shows how poor a job Lego is doing. Beggars belief that anyone can defend this fraud anymore. Edited 14 December, 2024 by Lord Duckhunter 15
tpbury Posted 14 December, 2024 Posted 14 December, 2024 I realise I feel sorry for Martin. Yes, he could resign but I think he's actually being paid to twist in the wind till the end of the season. There's really no point in getting someone else in to take all the shit whilst we get relegated. So, he cops it for a few months, gets paid out while sr do what they're doing, whatever that is 2
lambtiss Posted 14 December, 2024 Posted 14 December, 2024 40 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: 7 points and 8 worse GD than Ipswich before Xmas. Shocking performance, just shows how poor a job Lego is doing. Beggars belief that anyone can defend this fraud anymore. Indeed. Out of interest is anyone still defending him?
sadoldgit Posted 14 December, 2024 Posted 14 December, 2024 (edited) 8 minutes ago, lambtiss said: Indeed. Out of interest is anyone still defending him? Sport Republic. Edited 14 December, 2024 by sadoldgit 2 4
Dark Munster Posted 14 December, 2024 Posted 14 December, 2024 7 minutes ago, tpbury said: I realise I feel sorry for Martin. Yes, he could resign but I think he's actually being paid to twist in the wind till the end of the season. There's really no point in getting someone else in to take all the shit whilst we get relegated. So, he cops it for a few months, gets paid out while sr do what they're doing, whatever that is I don't. He's raking in more money than most make in a lifetime for being absolutely shit at his job. I don't hate him though, my vitriol is 100% aimed at the person responsible for this mess, Rasmus F*cking Ankersen. 5
Badger Posted 14 December, 2024 Posted 14 December, 2024 11 minutes ago, tpbury said: I realise I feel sorry for Martin. Yes, he could resign but I think he's actually being paid to twist in the wind till the end of the season. There's really no point in getting someone else in to take all the shit whilst we get relegated. So, he cops it for a few months, gets paid out while sr do what they're doing, whatever that is Wanking in the bath tub it would seem. If not that, then the square root of fuck all.
Convict Colony Posted 14 December, 2024 Posted 14 December, 2024 7 minutes ago, Badger said: Wanking in the bath tub it would seem. If not that, then the square root of fuck all. if it isnt broken, tug it is rasmus's new expression 2
Galway saint Posted 14 December, 2024 Posted 14 December, 2024 20 minutes ago, lambtiss said: Indeed. Out of interest is anyone still defending him? he’s a poor coach but he was given a pretty terrible hand in terms of our forward recruitment ( assuming that he didn’t target the shed united strike force)
LGTL Posted 14 December, 2024 Posted 14 December, 2024 6 hours ago, Lighthouse said: What on earth makes him qualified for that? He's 71 and hasn't been involved in football management in any role for coming on twenty years now. Has he won more than 1 game in PL history? If so, he’s more qualified than the current dickhead we have. 2
Whitey Grandad Posted 14 December, 2024 Posted 14 December, 2024 7 hours ago, OldNick said: Morsy shot took a massive deflection and would not have gone in it hadnt It looked on target from where I was sitting. Whatever, he should never have had the time and space to take it. We also have to consider the rest of the game. 2
Whitey Grandad Posted 14 December, 2024 Posted 14 December, 2024 21 minutes ago, Galway saint said: he’s a poor coach but he was given a pretty terrible hand in terms of our forward recruitment ( assuming that he didn’t target the shed united strike force) It wouldn't matter who we had up front. Under Martin we never get up there quickly enough. 7
Whitey Grandad Posted 14 December, 2024 Posted 14 December, 2024 2 hours ago, Galway saint said: I like Souness as a person and pundit - he seems a decent human being. Would he be a better coach than RM ? Probably I seem to remember him saying a couple of years ago that he had a season ticket at Bournemouth.
SWLondon Saint Posted 14 December, 2024 Posted 14 December, 2024 33 minutes ago, Galway saint said: he’s a poor coach but he was given a pretty terrible hand in terms of our forward recruitment ( assuming that he didn’t target the shed united strike force) If we'd signed Delap as we tried to, it wouldn't have made an ounce of difference as he wouldn't see the ball ever in the positions he gets it at Ipswich. 6
Badger Posted 14 December, 2024 Posted 14 December, 2024 2 minutes ago, SWLondon Saint said: If we'd signed Delap as we tried to, it wouldn't have made an ounce of difference as he wouldn't see the ball ever in the positions he gets it at Ipswich. We'd have made him look a carthorse, although possibly a better calibre of one than BBD. 1
Lighthouse Posted 14 December, 2024 Posted 14 December, 2024 21 minutes ago, LGTL said: Has he won more than 1 game in PL history? If so, he’s more qualified than the current dickhead we have. That's an absolutely nonsense argument, so have Redknapp, Pellegrino and Selles. Say what you want about Martin and SR, there is no reason on Earth to think that Graeme bloody Souness would be a good DoF. Brighton, Bournemouth, Villa, Forest and all the other flavours of the month seem to agree on that unanimously. 3
Miltonaggro Posted 14 December, 2024 Posted 14 December, 2024 3 hours ago, Badger said: ??? Have I missed something or are we already stockpiling the insults, just in case he is appointed? Think we’ve been beaten there by the Swansea, forest and Leicester fanbases. Would still take him over Martin.
Badger Posted 14 December, 2024 Posted 14 December, 2024 1 hour ago, Miltonaggro said: Think we’ve been beaten there by the Swansea, forest and Leicester fanbases. Would still take him over Martin. I think he was popular and retained the support at both Swansea, and especially Forest. 1
Miltonaggro Posted 14 December, 2024 Posted 14 December, 2024 8 minutes ago, Badger said: I think he was popular and retained the support at both Swansea, and especially Forest. Yes, that’s right.
Toussaint Posted 14 December, 2024 Posted 14 December, 2024 3 hours ago, Chocolate Box said: Neil Harris anybody? Is he the guy from the inbetweeners? If so, definitely an improvement 2
LGTL Posted 15 December, 2024 Posted 15 December, 2024 (edited) 5 hours ago, Lighthouse said: That's an absolutely nonsense argument, so have Redknapp, Pellegrino and Selles. Say what you want about Martin and SR, there is no reason on Earth to think that Graeme bloody Souness would be a good DoF. Brighton, Bournemouth, Villa, Forest and all the other flavours of the month seem to agree on that unanimously. I’d have a Redknapp, Pellegrino and Selles triple over fucking Russell Martin. You could even add mad Nate for a real dream team if you wanted to, and it would still be an improvement. Edited 15 December, 2024 by LGTL 3
chiknsmack Posted 15 December, 2024 Posted 15 December, 2024 6 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said: It wouldn't matter who we had up front. Under Martin we never get up there quickly enough. 6th in the league in touches, 16th in the league in touches in the attacking penalty area. 3rd in the league in passes received, 15th in the league in progressive passes received (successful passes into the penalty area, or passes in the attacking 60% of the pitch which move the ball forward 10 yards or more from its furthest point in the prior six passes). 6th in the league in possession, 19th in the league in shot-creating actions, 20th in the league in shots. 3
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 15 December, 2024 Posted 15 December, 2024 4 hours ago, chiknsmack said: 6th in the league in touches, 16th in the league in touches in the attacking penalty area. 3rd in the league in passes received, 15th in the league in progressive passes received (successful passes into the penalty area, or passes in the attacking 60% of the pitch which move the ball forward 10 yards or more from its furthest point in the prior six passes). 6th in the league in possession, 19th in the league in shot-creating actions, 20th in the league in shots. Obviously, that's the worrying one. Only sixth? 4
Hemp Posted 15 December, 2024 Posted 15 December, 2024 I have just read that the ipswich team that won away at wolves yesterday had 6 players in its starting line up that came from league one. Ipswich have 12 points, we have 5. This alone should prove beyond any doubt that Russell Martin has totally failed at his job this season. Our players are not the best but it is crystal clear to me that a better manager would have far more points than the pathetic 5 we have. How anyone can defend him is beyond me. Wolves have almost twice as many points as us but the fan reaction at the final whistle yesterday will im sure ensure a reaction from their board for change.To them 9 points is unacceptable , what will it take for our measly 5 to be unacceptable. 15
saintant Posted 15 December, 2024 Posted 15 December, 2024 6 hours ago, chiknsmack said: 6th in the league in touches, 16th in the league in touches in the attacking penalty area. 3rd in the league in passes received, 15th in the league in progressive passes received (successful passes into the penalty area, or passes in the attacking 60% of the pitch which move the ball forward 10 yards or more from its furthest point in the prior six passes). 6th in the league in possession, 19th in the league in shot-creating actions, 20th in the league in shots. Says it all. 2
Farmer Saint Posted 15 December, 2024 Posted 15 December, 2024 1 hour ago, Hemp said: I have just read that the ipswich team that won away at wolves yesterday had 6 players in its starting line up that came from league one. Ipswich have 12 points, we have 5. This alone should prove beyond any doubt that Russell Martin has totally failed at his job this season. Our players are not the best but it is crystal clear to me that a better manager would have far more points than the pathetic 5 we have. How anyone can defend him is beyond me. Wolves have almost twice as many points as us but the fan reaction at the final whistle yesterday will im sure ensure a reaction from their board for change.To them 9 points is unacceptable , what will it take for our measly 5 to be unacceptable. I don't think anyone is saying RM has done anything but failed in the Prem, are they? Certainly not recently. And I am sure we'd all love to have McKenna as Manager as he is clearly an excellent Manager.
pingpong Posted 15 December, 2024 Posted 15 December, 2024 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said: I don't think anyone is saying RM has done anything but failed in the Prem, are they? Certainly not recently. And I am sure we'd all love to have McKenna as Manager as he is clearly an excellent Manager. I am, he is on track to get our projected target points-wise. Once you accept that the bookies, as always, were correct, we were always going to end up with low doubledigit points, and you can't do that and win with exciting football - it was always going to be a grind. Trust in the process. This will be the least exciting relegation battle for some years, with us wolves and Ipswich all way off the pace. Edited 15 December, 2024 by pingpong 2
Toussaint Posted 15 December, 2024 Posted 15 December, 2024 54 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said: I don't think anyone is saying RM has done anything but failed in the Prem, are they? Certainly not recently. And I am sure we'd all love to have McKenna as Manager as he is clearly an excellent Manager. I’d have to disagree, there are one or two still directly defending him, there are another couple picking obtuse arguments with his detractors and there are a handful who’ve temporarily gone underground until such time as the chancer gives cause for a glimmer of hope, at which time they’ll reemerge full of righteous indignation. 4
Badger Posted 15 December, 2024 Posted 15 December, 2024 1 hour ago, pingpong said: I am, he is on track to get our projected target points-wise. Once you accept that the bookies, as always, were correct, we were always going to end up with low doubledigit points, and you can't do that and win with exciting football - it was always going to be a grind. Trust in the process. This will be the least exciting relegation battle for some years, with us wolves and Ipswich all way off the pace. They are at least putting up a fight. As are Wolves perhaps in a different way, which again is quite a contrast to how we seem resigned to defeat, and meekly accept it. 1
johnnyboy Posted 15 December, 2024 Posted 15 December, 2024 Talksport reporting that Gary O’Neil has been sacked ! So just us holding on to a non performing manager and not seeing an issue ! 1
beatlesaint Posted 15 December, 2024 Posted 15 December, 2024 3 minutes ago, johnnyboy said: Talksport reporting that Gary O’Neil has been sacked ! So just us holding on to a non performing manager and not seeing an issue ! Trust the process 🥷🤣
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