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1 minute ago, trousers said:

Looks like we're playing 5 in midfield with about 30 yards between them and Ballard up front...

Yes it’s bloody ridiculous, what are we trying to achieve by holding on to a defeat.

There has been no attempt at pushing players forward to try and comeback even if we probably will get picked off.

We are so negative in both team selection and tactics.

 

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1 minute ago, Suhari said:

Managed to listen to most of the second half once into Solent range on a drive from Oop noorf.

Any positives for us, from you guys who watched?

Yep - there’s only one more game left for Selles to put the cherry on his abysmal cake of a season by gifting Liverpool a 9-0 win. Get yer bets on now!

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1 minute ago, OttawaSaint said:

24 shots, 8 on target...

In SellesWorld, it's all about reducing the xG on certainly those 8. That's how they view it. They can have shots, and as long as they aren;t from dangerous poistions, we might be able to sneak an attack and get a narrow win. Shambles.

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Just now, Saint Fan CaM said:

Yep - there’s only one more game left for Selles to put the cherry on his abysmal cake of a season by gifting Liverpool a 9-0 win. Get yer bets on now!

Putting the cherry on the pile of ashes that used to be a lovely restaurant, with a lovely kitchen, with lovely cake opportunities, sadly burnt to the ground when oh so smart chef's decided to start cooking with flamethrowers. 🙂

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You look at how other teams pass the ball into space, move into space, triangulate with ease etc etc and then you see Saints play and it’s like watching a different (boring) game. THAT alone tells me the coaching and management quality of the squad is at an all time low - as bad as the Lowe days when we were falling down the leagues. Don’t get that right and we’ll pass through the Championship quicker than a vindaloo eaten on an over-zealous stag night.

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Just now, The Cat said:

Brighton fans celebrate qualifying for Europa League by leaving the ground early and silently queuing up for the train. 

We left on 87 and the platform was already full of their fans. 

Brighton not renowned for its passionate football fans.

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5 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Putting the cherry on the pile of ashes that used to be a lovely restaurant, with a lovely kitchen, with lovely cake opportunities, sadly burnt to the ground when oh so smart chef's decided to start cooking with flamethrowers. 🙂

JWP:...hey wait, I  did notice we kept all those propane tanks and gasoline cans in the store cupboard at the start of the season.

 

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8 minutes ago, Suhari said:

Managed to listen to most of the second half once into Solent range on a drive from Oop noorf.

Any positives for us, from you guys who watched?

Well, Bednarek's attempted own goal went in the wrong net this week. And Theo's finish was lovely.

The sight of us passing it around the back to play out time when 3-1 down was beyond belief - I can't think of a team in the history of football that have done that. So there's that as well.

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17 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

In SellesWorld, it's all about reducing the xG on certainly those 8. That's how they view it. They can have shots, and as long as they aren;t from dangerous poistions, we might be able to sneak an attack and get a narrow win. Shambles.

SellesWorld is shit.

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Well, that was just another typical Saints performance.

Positives were that despite setting ourselves up to fail, we got a goal from a corner, which I think might have improved recently. And we got the ball in the net from an equaliser, that VAR chalked off by a very fine margin. That was a whole 2 or 3 minutes when Brighton had a bit more to deal with.

In the world of Selles and his predecessors, it's another oh so nearly narrow defeat thanks to that offside from Theo and their response to get that third. But, as with every other game this season, they are only fooling themselves.

Selles set us up with the revolving door of team selections, but with the same plan. Soak up chances, hope they aren't good ones, and pray that the ball gets pinged out centrally for us to attack. It's just not a tactic that sets out to dominate, control or attack which is why every time it doesn;t work, which is every time, it feels so dispiriting and they look completely gutless.

We were playing a 'Keeper who had been shown in no uncertain terms, when fit, that he was second choice.

Fullbacks, one of which has been dumped after Jones brought him in, and the other who works better on the other flank, where he gets more joy with JWP link ups.

In the centre we have Bednarek, arm waving, shouty champion. We punted him after he was reluctant to play for us as he had bigger priorities, yet we've someohow allowed all the other central defenders to have such appalling behaviour that he's brought back to lead the defeinvive line. His partner today was Lyanco, who would be fifth choice had the others not apparently had fall outs/ want away. He might have some heart, but his defending not up to keeping that first out.

A midfield comprised of a kid, who is really good for that age, but who isn;t going to be good enough, every time, and a man who is  physically incapable of passing forward.

And that's in part to the soul detroying set up over the last few years, and the utter lack of capable attacking options ahead of him.

Aribo doesn't come close to suiting this tactic, being ineffectual from deep, which is the Selles way, and not having any sort of pace, key in the selles random break away with the ball way.

Mo is a link player, and will not dictate a game from wide. We offer no coherent full back runs or attack in numbers to make any other part of his game worthwhile. Alcaraz is rawer than Lavia. We don;t create enough for him to give him chances to shine more, and he needs chances/ passes as his decision making/ shot selection is what you'd expect at that age (minus a bit for the way our coaches have failed). Saints conceded form one of his stray passs. But that's not an unexpected thing, and we get caught, just as we did in the recent Forest game, and others.

That leaves a guy the club have been only too keen to punt out the door as he's a very high earner. Yet, after an age of being frozen out, he's been one of the better (and I use the word only in relation to his teammates) players in the side.

Nice to see Tino come on and some of the kids. Could we have fought back without them? Maybe, but our record would suggest abolutely not. With the season gone, it's as well to put them on the park ahead of next campaign. None of the subs offered anything of note, and Brighton dominated the rest of the game, as they had for most of the rest of it anyway.

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21 minutes ago, OttawaSaint said:

JWP:...hey wait, I  did notice we kept all those propane tanks and gasoline cans in the store cupboard at the start of the season.

 

Rasmus fiddling while the stadium burns "Well, I burned the recruitment, the investment money, the coaching staff, the back room staff, the club's priorities and our place in the Premier League. And I thought... well, what's next for such a clever guy?" 🙂

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44 minutes ago, Suhari said:

Managed to listen to most of the second half once into Solent range on a drive from Oop noorf.

Any positives for us, from you guys who watched?

Tino's back, just in time to prove he's fully recovered and for sale 

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not that this should be a surprise anyone, but we allow goals like crazy.

in that little 4 match purple patch we had at the beginning of Selles tenure we had 3 clean sheets, and not uncoincidentally 7 points

  • W Chelsea 0 : 1 Southampton
  • L Leeds 1 : 0 Southampton
  • W Southampton 1 : 0 Leicester
  • D Manchester United 0 : 0 Southampton

Since then.. 11 matches, 2 points and 0 clean sheets

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The VAR decision deflated our balloon rapidly unfortunately 

It was all summed up for me on the 94 th minute when we had a throw in near the corner flag but instead of trying to get a corner or the long throw it ended up with McCarthy twice who hoofed it straight to their keeper 

Absurd

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I thought I was a masochist for watching that, but don't they get some sort of enjoyment from the pain?

Aribo! Who sanctioned his signing, an utterly dire performance devoid of any effort? From a Brighton corner we get it out and Walcott, bless 'im, is sprinting out to close down and Aribo just shambles forward.

Holmes_and_Watson above highlighted that Elyounoussi doesn't offer anything in that position, but not sure he'd do much in a more central position either - just too slow of movement and of thought.

Lavia and Alcaraz I'll give a pass to, based on their inexperience, but they certainly put the effort in. JWP with his pass for the disallowed goal showed that passing forward is far more likely to get a goal than passing backwards, who knew?, but the last quarter of an hour was embarassing.

As others have said the return of Livramento was a real positive, and he had the measure of Mitoma with his pace and the confidence to try some passes in tight positions. I hope we keep him for next season.

Can't think of anything else really. We have some better CBs if they're not injured, mentally ill or on strike, but Bednarek's little jaunt to Villa showed his true bench-warming abilities although he probably fell off it backwards a few times.

It looks like there will be a train service next Sunday, so I will attend the wake and in time honoured tradition have a few too many in memory of scoring goals, winning and decent football.

 

 

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