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The 2024 General Election - July 4th


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8 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Reform have played a big part in destroying the Conservatives this election.

Strange in terms of percentages massively helping Labour and LibDems without significantly changing 

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1 minute ago, CSA96 said:

Rishi Sunak concedes (well, yeah) and says he has already phoned Keir Starmer to congratulate him and wish him well

Crazy they still need 20 more seats

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7 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

A new dawn has broken, has it not?

Metaphorically and literally. 

So fucking pleased. I dread to think how much further we'd regress if the Tories stayed in power.

Nice little speech from Keir.  

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What a glorious night. Keegan and Rees Mogg losing are my personal favourites - both utter pricks. 

Reform going from 13 seats in the exit poll to just 4 is also lols. Custice was clearly having a laugh with them 

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Wes Streeting only won by 500 odd votes and Jonathan Ashworth losing is mad given the landslide - two of Labour’s major spokesmen could have been done.

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1 minute ago, LGTL said:

What a glorious night. Keegan and Rees Mogg losing are my personal favourites - both utter pricks. 

Reform going from 13 seats in the exit poll to just 4 is also lols. Custice was clearly having a laugh with them 

Reform at 4 is just about palatable. Without swathes of votes going their way loads of seats would have gone a different way I think though. They've shaken things up. 

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1 minute ago, whelk said:

Wes Streeting only won by 500 odd votes and Jonathan Ashworth losing is mad given the landslide that two of Labour’s major spokesmen could have been done.

Streeting surprised me. He's gonna be a big player. They'll probably have to find him a safer seat. 

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31 minutes ago, egg said:

Reform at 4 is just about palatable. Without swathes of votes going their way loads of seats would have gone a different way I think though. They've shaken things up. 

Very true. They have been a huge thorn for (mostly) the Conservatives.

without reform involved, certain the Tories would like have still lost but would have been very different

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8 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

The Tories have lost May's old seat, Boris' old seat, and Truss' seat.

And Cameron’s. Loved Truss’s spectacular defeat, which is also extinction for Mark Littlewood, Matthew Sinclair and the IEA. Simon Clarke got walloped in Boro as well, so the vermin from 2022 extinguished. I hope they all fuck off to America.

The exit poll worked out, Curtiss is superb at what he does. But some weird results and nearly results underneath. Greens and Reform both made their mark and if Tice wanted to hurt the Tories he has very much succeeded and won his own seat. Pity about the beetroot faced cunt winning Yarmouth but overall Reform will be happy. Greens should get equal credit but won’t. 

Best Liberal result for a century! My seat overturned a 22k Tory majority and our two votes helped. Great stuff.

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Steve Baker as big a cunt as ever, in defeat.

What else did you expect from an ERG member who hawks asbestos? Having had family members who worked on the Castle Union shipping line from the Cape to Soton killed by the stuff, he is beyond contempt. As long as it makes him yet more money, who cares if it kills millions?
https://www.theconstructionindex.co.uk/news/view/brexit-ministers-asbestos-links-questioned

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25 minutes ago, Elmore Saint said:

Andrew Neil with the best summary of the night…. “A majority as wide as the ocean but as shallow as a duck pond”

They didn’t need it to be deep in the FPTP system. It doesn’t matter if a majority was 10,000 or 15,000, and so put their resources to the right places. For once, they’ve got it tactically correct and played a blinder.  

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Interesting to see that if we’d adopted Proportional Representation in 2011 we’d be looking at Reform on 90 odd seats, Labour on just over 200 and the Liberals about where they are.

Wonder if the clamor for it still exists in Liberal circles?

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5 minutes ago, badgerx16 said:

Steve Baker as big a cunt as ever, in defeat.

Yep. Osborne made the point - the way he spoke epitomises why the Tories lost. 

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1 minute ago, LGTL said:

They didn’t need it to be deep in the FPTP system. It doesn’t matter if a majority was 10,000 or 15,000, and so out there resources to the right places. For once, they’ve got it tactically correct and played a blinder.  

Who? Reform?

Labour has a 5 year mandate and that’s settled. But with voter fluidity, even Burnham is saying that voter patience will only last 100 days… 

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5 minutes ago, Elmore Saint said:

Interesting to see that if we’d adopted Proportional Representation in 2011 we’d be looking at Reform on 90 odd seats, Labour on just over 200 and the Liberals about where they are.

Wonder if the clamor for it still exists in Liberal circles?

Yes it does, if we had it in 2011 we would never have had the Tory shitshow of the last 14 years and the rise of the far right.  

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4 minutes ago, moonraker said:

Yes it does, if we had it in 2011 we would never have had the Tory shitshow of the last 14 years and the rise of the far right.  

That’s plainly bollocks, as 2015 would have seen a Con/UKIP coalition to get to a majority.

FPTP does skew, but allows for less beige governance - comme ci, comme ça….

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