The 2024 General Election - July 4th

[The Kraken]

11 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Davey is a massive cock Womble but there’s no need for the son dig. 
 

All I’ve read for years is how we need adults in the room, how we need serious politicians to address serious issues. Yet this  fucking clown has got away with the most pathetic low grade campaign in living memory. Pound shop Boris who only got away with it because he’s on the “right” side. Fucking hell from Jo Swinsons massive tits, to a massive tit. 

Tbf can’t disagree with any of that. As hypo says I have massive respect for the man for his dedication to his family. But his campaign has been an utter farce; it may have worked overall (we’ll see) but while its given me a bit of a laugh it’s made Lib Dems for me a party that I’d just not consider for a second.

The son ‘gag’ is particularly disappointing though.

[revolution saint]

52 minutes ago, whelk said:

It’s whether to try an have a nap between Sunderland/Newcastle results and start again at 2am or sit through endless analysis of the same results for over 2 hours.

Day off tomorrow so can’t fucking wait

Yep, me too. I’m going to have a kip after the exit poll and start watching again at 2.

[ecuk268]

19 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Anyone disagree? 

Judged on merit if you've had equal opportunities in your formative years.

[Turkish]

2 minutes ago, ecuk268 said:

Judged on merit if you've had equal opportunities in your formative years.

do white kids from council estates have equal opportunities to white kids from wealthy families?

[The Kraken]

30 minutes 😬

[ecuk268]

1 minute ago, Turkish said:

do white kids from council estates have equal opportunities to white kids from wealthy families?

Money will get you private schools. smaller classes etc.

Mrs ecuk268 spent her working life as an infant teacher, mainly reception class and specialising in teaching reading. Some kids came into reception able to read simple sentences whilst some others had never seen a book. Money makes a difference but so does parental attitudes.

[whelk]

13 minutes ago, revolution saint said:

Yep, me too. I’m going to have a kip after the exit poll and start watching again at 2.

What main channel to watch? Quite like CH4 panel and Laura K on BBC grates a bit. Or the Sky News birds?

[whelk]

35 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Anyone disagree? 

Bit of a simple mix of Michael Jackson and Martin Luther King. 

[The Kraken]

Just now, whelk said:

What main channel to watch? Quite like CH4 panel and Laura K on BBC grates a bit. Or the Sky News birds?

I’ll have BBC for the exit poll because John Curtice is a brilliant genius. Plus if the blues get thoroughly tonked I’d like to see how upset Laura K gets, the terrible little shill. Then likely C4 for the analysis once that fun is over.

[revolution saint]

3 minutes ago, whelk said:

What main channel to watch? Quite like CH4 panel and Laura K on BBC grates a bit. Or the Sky News birds?

We could do a livestream on YouTube instead? Every other bugger is.

I’ll start with BBC and see how it goes 

[Lighthouse]

Whiling away a bit of time watching Octopussy and waiting for the exit poll. Not sure I’ll stay up that late TBH, it’s like the Super Bowl, depends how tired I am and what mood I’m in.

[Turkish]

6 minutes ago, ecuk268 said:

Money will get you private schools. smaller classes etc.

Mrs ecuk268 spent her working life as an infant teacher, mainly reception class and specialising in teaching reading. Some kids came into reception able to read simple sentences whilst some others had never seen a book. Money makes a difference but so does parental attitudes.

I agree. my niece is thick as fuck but her parents are minted and she's in an £8k a term private school and doing pretty well now. Plus she'll meet people who will open doors for her into future careers because her parents have got a bit of coin.

What's any of this got to do with measuring people on their contribution to society rather than skin colour? 

[Turkish]

Just now, Lighthouse said:

Whiling away a bit of time watching Octopussy and waiting for the exit poll. Not sure I’ll stay up that late TBH, it’s like the Super Bowl, depends how tired I am and what mood I’m in.

boring as fuck, far too many breaks and you wonder how anyone actually wins?

[ecuk268]

A bit of light relief.

Sherry drinkers vote Conservative.

 

[Lighthouse]

Hmmmm. My usual eggnog Sambuca is not on there.

[ecuk268]

6 minutes ago, Turkish said:

I agree. my niece is thick as fuck but her parents are minted and she's in an £8k a term private school and doing pretty well now. Plus she'll meet people who will open doors for her into future careers because her parents have got a bit of coin.

What's any of this got to do with measuring people on their contribution to society rather than skin colour? 

The question was very simplistic.

Maybe he should have been asked "What are you going to do for communities that have poor housing, few facilities for pre-school children, over-subscribed GP practices etc regardless of ethnicity"?

 

[The Kraken]

14 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

I’ll have BBC for the exit poll because John Curtice is a brilliant genius. Plus if the blues get thoroughly tonked I’d like to see how upset Laura K gets, the terrible little shill. Then likely C4 for the analysis once that fun is over.

Changed my mind, C4 will drive me mad. Might have to rely on the lovely Sophie Ridge and co.

[Sheaf Saint]

39 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Anyone disagree? 

OK then Turks, I'll bite.

Taken purely on face value, what he says about people being judged purely on merit rather than skin colour / sexuality is a noble thing to strive for. I genuinely look forward to the day that no such biases exist and everyone is treated equally regardless of their background. But you know as well as I do we're nowhere near there yet.

This is basically no different to the "actually, ALL lives matter" response to the BLM movement. While not untrue, it is just a convenient way to ignore the immediate reality of the challenges currently faced by minority groups without appearing overtly discriminatory. And as that subject has already been done to death on here, I'm not going to engage in any further debate about it.

However, the one thing that can't be ignored here is who it is that's saying this. If anyone is stupid enough to actually believe anything that comes out of the mouth of this shameless grifter, and that any government including him would actually result in a genuine level playing field for everyone, then they obviously haven't been paying any attention for the last decade or so.

[Lighthouse]

9 minutes ago, Turkish said:

boring as fuck, far too many breaks and you wonder how anyone actually wins?

So you’re saying Janet Jackson might get her knockers out at the declaration for New Forest West?

[Turkish]

6 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

OK then Turks, I'll bite.

Taken purely on face value, what he says about people being judged purely on merit rather than skin colour / sexuality is a noble thing to strive for. I genuinely look forward to the day that no such biases exist and everyone is treated equally regardless of their background. But you know as well as I do we're nowhere near there yet.

This is basically no different to the "actually, ALL lives matter" response to the BLM movement. While not untrue, it is just a convenient way to ignore the immediate reality of the challenges currently faced by minority groups without appearing overtly discriminatory. And as that subject has already been done to death on here, I'm not going to engage in any further debate about it.

However, the one thing that can't be ignored here is who it is that's saying this. If anyone is stupid enough to actually believe anything that comes out of the mouth of this shameless grifter, and that any government including him would actually result in a genuine level playing field for everyone, then they obviously haven't been paying any attention for the last decade or so.

so people SHOULD be judged on skin colour then, wow. Quite an admission there Sheaf.

Edited 4 July, 2024 by Turkish

[Turkish]

Just now, Lighthouse said:

So you’re saying Janet Jackson might get her knockers out at the declaration for New Forest West?

hopefully, although i still see MIcheal when i look at the face. 

[Lighthouse]

That’s quite the exit poll.

[whelk]

SNP 10 seats in Exit poll - lol

[egg]

1 minute ago, Lighthouse said:

That’s quite the exit poll.

Yep. Predicts the lowest number of Tory seats since 1832. That's since before the Victorian era. 

[whelk]

How many seats did Tories have in 1997?

[ChrisPY]

29 minutes ago, whelk said:

What main channel to watch? Quite like CH4 panel and Laura K on BBC grates a bit. Or the Sky News birds?

ITV for Sturgeon and Osborne has been gold so far.

[The Kraken]

That’s quite the kicking.

Reform getting double figures is a sucker punch for the blues as they’ll feel they’ll need to head that off, but swerving right has been their undoing. What a clusterfuck for the blue cunts.

Well done Rishi. Proud of you son.

[egg]

1 minute ago, whelk said:

How many seats did Tories have in 1997?

165

[The Kraken]

1 minute ago, whelk said:

How many seats did Tories have in 1997?

165 🤣

[whelk]

1 minute ago, ChrisPY said:

ITV for Sturgeon and Osborne has been gold so far.

Hadn’t even thought of that channel

[Lighthouse]

You have to say, if this comes to fruition it’s good for democracy and reflects well on the British electorate. The fact that so many people are willing to change their vote based on real world circumstances should keep everyone on their toes. Five years ago we had Yorkshire mining towns voting Tory in the face of Corbyn’s Labour. Now it looks like the Tory mess is being thoroughly flushed down the khazi.

[whelk]

Just now, Lighthouse said:

You have to say, if this comes to fruition it’s good for democracy and reflects well on the British electorate. The fact that so many people are willing to change their vote based on real world circumstances should keep everyone on their toes. Five years ago we had Yorkshire mining towns voting Tory in the face of Corbyn’s Labour. Now it looks like the Tory mess is being thoroughly flushed down the khazi.

And Hartlepool by election was only 3 years ago and talk of 10 more years of Tory rule

[whelk]

Nadine Dorries making out the poll is disappointing for Labour

[egg]

2 minutes ago, whelk said:

Hadn’t even thought of that channel

It's decent. Peston is good, despite that stupid voice, and Sturgeon is hating it which is nice. 

[Turkish]

2 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

You have to say, if this comes to fruition it’s good for democracy and reflects well on the British electorate. The fact that so many people are willing to change their vote based on real world circumstances should keep everyone on their toes. Five years ago we had Yorkshire mining towns voting Tory in the face of Corbyn’s Labour. Now it looks like the Tory mess is being thoroughly flushed down the khazi.

We can also hope that it makes the Tories get their act together and form a decent party for 2029. Maybe now they'll wake up and realise it isn't about them, they are here to serve the country not us to serve them. A democracy only works if there is credible opposition, we haven't had that for years, maybe now we might.

[egg]

1 minute ago, whelk said:

Nadine Dorries making out the poll is disappointing for Labour

Daft bint. 

[Turkish]

2 minutes ago, whelk said:

Nadine Dorries making out the poll is disappointing for Labour

she's probably 8 vodka and tonics deep though

[The Kraken]

1 minute ago, whelk said:

Nadine Dorries making out the poll is disappointing for Labour

Narrator: it wasn’t.

[whelk]

Hate to admit it but have warmed to Kwarteng. Relatively straightforward 

[LGTL]

An absolute pasting, there’s no other way to dress it up. And so richly deserved. 

[egg]

Just now, Turkish said:

she's probably 8 vodka and tonics deep though

Glad to hear she's cutting down. 

[The Kraken]

1 minute ago, egg said:

Glad to hear she's cutting down. 

8 so far.

If she’s anything like me she’s just warming up.

[whelk]

Steve Baker has got fuck all of a tan for having been relaxing in Greece

[badgerx16]

51 minutes ago, Turkish said:

do white kids from council estates have equal opportunities to white kids from wealthy families?

We grew up on the Flower Gardens and both my brother and I went to KES and then university - he got a first at Cambridge and made a great career in the City.

[egg]

All the red wall seats lost by the looks of it. 1 predicted as reform, all the rest labour. Absolute carnage. 

[egg]

Jeremy Hunt seat looks to be gone, ditto Penny Mordaunt. 

[ChrisPY]

Penny spent.

[egg]

Just now, ChrisPY said:

Penny spent.

Penny's taken a pounding. So to speak. 

[badgerx16]

1 minute ago, egg said:

Penny's taken a pounding. So to speak. 

[whelk]

1 minute ago, egg said:

Penny's taken a pounding. So to speak. 

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