Saints 0-2 Fulham - Saints Relegated

[East Kent Saint]

The players that have been added to the squad were just not good enough , none had prem experience , the players we could have brought in went to other clubs and have made a contribution but they were deemed too old or too expensive for Saints .

[Crab Lungs]

2 hours ago, JRM said:

Compare this with AC Milan fans letting the players know what they think , Chapel Ultras should have summoned them over 

 

Can you imagine any of our lot bar a couple having the humility to face something like that up?

Not that they’d have to, theyll quite happily trudge around the pitch a good distance away from the stands whilst they get politely clapped.

So very wrong in both ways.

[The Cat]

15 minutes ago, Crab Lungs said:

Can you imagine any of our lot bar a couple having the humility to face something like that up?

Not that they’d have to, theyll quite happily trudge around the pitch a good distance away from the stands whilst they get politely clapped.

So very wrong in both ways.

I can't imagine any players in England doing that, not just ours.

Ultra culture is huge in Italy and they weild a lot of power whereas here, even at the fan run clubs this just wouldn't happen.

[hackedoff]

There was disappointment at last night's Eurovision song competition as the UK,s entry by Selles and his boys only amassed a pathetic 24 points with their song " Can't play,don't really care".

A spokesman for the group said that they had tried their best.

[Pamplemousse]

1 hour ago, The Cat said:

I can't imagine any players in England doing that, not just ours.

Ultra culture is huge in Italy and they weild a lot of power whereas here, even at the fan run clubs this just wouldn't happen.

Not even the bestest lot down the road?

[JRM]

17 hours ago, The Cat said:

Bit much considering they've been floundering around the bottom 2 divisions for the past 10 years or whatever it is.

 

They really have to be one of life's losers to rely on the failure of others to give them something to celebrate,  the fact we're still above them just adds to it, pathetic club. 

[JRM]

17 hours ago, The Cat said:

 

 

Edited 14 May, 2023 by JRM

[channonwindmill]

Eighteen years ago I was devastated when we were relegated - this time I feel strangely apathetic about the whole thing.

[pierreduvalle]

I do wonder after yesterday's confirmation of relegation whether our players will play without pressure and fluidity which is often the case with the relegated teams historically. 

My guess is that we will see the same exact performances across the whole season.

Majority of players not giving a rats arse.

[The Kraken]

3 minutes ago, pierreduvalle said:

I do wonder after yesterday's confirmation of relegation whether our players will play without pressure and fluidity which is often the case with the relegated teams historically. 

My guess is that we will see the same exact performances across the whole season.

Majority of players not giving a rats arse.

Most of them will be putting more effort into finding a new club next season and ensuring they go into the summer injury free.

[dinger76]

Get rid of Selles now,give the team selection to JWP for the last 2 games,couldn't do any worse COYR

[S-Clarke]

Pretty scathing view from Le Tiss

 

"I’ve never witnessed such a gutless, lazy and passionless performance from a relegation-threatened team in all my life, that squad should hang their heads in shame.”

[JRM]

4 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

Pretty scathing view from Le Tiss

 

"I’ve never witnessed such a gutless, lazy and passionless performance from a relegation-threatened team in all my life, that squad should hang their heads in shame.”

He's spot on, hope they let him in the dressing room afterwards to let them know 

[SW11_Saint]

4 hours ago, Chez said:

That's all very well, but firstly, we have to be able to work the ball up the pitch to get in positions to cross the ball - that's not been easy for us. We have numerous players who cant cross the ball. And if his only participation is to hang around the six yard box, it means we are effectively playing with ten for most of the game. 

That sounds like Selles’ fault, not Paul’s! 

[Saint_Jonny]

36 minutes ago, JRM said:

He's spot on, hope they let him in the dressing room afterwards to let them know 

Boys, gather round, we've got this guy here, Matthew something or other, he retired before most of you were born but listen he used to score goals from outside the box when Southampton played at The Dell

"The what?"

It doesn't matter just listen to what he has to say...

"COVID was a conspiracy invented by aliens and there is one living in my ass!"

OK Matthew thanks for coming.. 

[JRM]

9 minutes ago, Saint_Jonny said:

Boys, gather round, we've got this guy here, Matthew something or other, he retired before most of you were born but listen he used to score goals from outside the box when Southampton played at The Dell

"The what?"

It doesn't matter just listen to what he has to say...

"COVID was a conspiracy invented by aliens and there is one living in my ass!"

OK Matthew thanks for coming.. 

Whatever, he's Saints number one legend whose name is still sung by the fans and singlehandedly kept us up for a decade

Off you go Jonny,  you must be due another covid jab soon 

[Pamplemousse]

5 minutes ago, JRM said:

Whatever, he's Saints number one legend whose name is still sung by the fans and singlehandedly kept us up for a decade

Off you go Jonny,  you must be due another covid jab soon 

He can be both a club legend (which he is) and also a raving nutjob (which he also is)

[Lighthouse]

1 hour ago, dinger76 said:

Get rid of Selles now,give the team selection to JWP for the last 2 games,couldn't do any worse COYR

You could literally replace ‘Selles’ with ‘Jones’ and ‘JWP’ with ‘Selles’ and that’s the exact sentence everyone was saying four months ago.

[MatthewStiles]

6 hours ago, Chez said:

That's all very well, but firstly, we have to be able to work the ball up the pitch to get in positions to cross the ball - that's not been easy for us. We have numerous players who cant cross the ball. And if his only participation is to hang around the six yard box, it means we are effectively playing with ten for most of the game. 

Totally agree. We saw loads of hopeful crosses into the box v Brentford but hardly any resulted in goal attempts. Onuachu is so limited technically it hurts. 36% pass success rate yesterday. To build a team around him would be nuts 

[Streaky]

Hardly any crosses against brentford as like most of the season we play with inverted wingers and fullbacks. Which goes completely against tall Paul's game. 

He needs plenty of crosses and players off of him which we also don't have.

[64saint]

On 13/05/2023 at 15:09, trousers said:

Well, the headline in the Sunday Express this morning reads.....Rishi's vow : I wont budge......is he staging a sit in protest maybe ? 🙄🤔

Edited 14 May, 2023 by 64saint

[MatthewStiles]

18 minutes ago, Streaky said:

Hardly any crosses against brentford as like most of the season we play with inverted wingers and fullbacks. Which goes completely against tall Paul's game. 

He needs plenty of crosses and players off of him which we also don't have.

I think you are misremembering. In the home game we had 31 crosses 

https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1640742/MatchReport/England-Premier-League-2022-2023-Southampton-Brentford

[InTheChannel]

https://inthechannel.blogspot.com/2023/05/we-knew-it-was-probably-over-it-is-now.html?m=1
 

Another game, another defeat & another blog plug

Check out the link above

Thanks 

[SW11_Saint]

29 minutes ago, MatthewStiles said:

I think you are misremembering. In the home game we had 31 crosses 

https://www.whoscored.com/Matches/1640742/MatchReport/England-Premier-League-2022-2023-Southampton-Brentford

Though how many were ‘effective crosses’? (i.e. got to their intended target area). PO was only on for the last 25 mins in that game wasn’t he? By which time Brentford were in total control. 

Edited 14 May, 2023 by SW11_Saint

[Lee On Solent Saint]

2 hours ago, JRM said:

Whatever, he's Saints number one legend whose name is still sung by the fans and singlehandedly kept us up for a decade

Off you go Jonny,  you must be due another covid jab soon 

Absolutely. Not one of our current squad are fit to even wash his kit, let alone share a dressing room with him.

Edited 14 May, 2023 by Lee On Solent Saint
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[JRM]

2 hours ago, Pamplemousse said:

He can be both a club legend (which he is) and also a raving nutjob (which he also is)

His analysis of the gutless performance was spot on and as a player who had been there and done it for this club when needed he would know those teams of the 90s wouldn't have stood for such a lack of pride, what your or his viewpoint of covid etc is irrelevant to that 

[rallyboy]

Any player who kept us up over the years is probably entitled to ask what the fuck that gutless, sideways, lazy, chaotic season was all about.

 

[Toussaint]

2 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

You could literally replace ‘Selles’ with ‘Jones’ and ‘JWP’ with ‘Selles’ and that’s the exact sentence everyone was saying four months ago.

 

Edited 14 May, 2023 by Toussaint
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[StrangelyBrown]

7 hours ago, Charlie Wayman said:

You're twenty years older so a lot more sanguine about these things and life in general…. been there, done that!

I was old enough to know better last time round

[MatthewStiles]

1 hour ago, SW11_Saint said:

Though how many were ‘effective crosses’? (i.e. got to their intended target area). PO was only on for the last 25 mins in that game wasn’t he? By which time Brentford were in total control. 

That’s the point though. We supposedly played to his strengths by firing in loads of crosses but it was ineffective because we don’t seem to have great crossing ability in the team. Therefore, the argument that we should build the team around PO is flawed. 

[Vancouver Saint]

5 hours ago, channonwindmill said:

Eighteen years ago I was devastated when we were relegated - this time I feel strangely apathetic about the whole thing.

This Channon. You and me obviously the same generation of Saints fan. I fear how quickly our club has gone rotten. Even though we've been slicing a layer of quality off the onion every year for years, a sure recipe for disaster, I thought we had the potential to turn things around at the time of the Hasenhutl change. He was a good manager but had become stale. I don't blame Ankersen/SR for giving him a chance with a freshened-up coaching team.

What I do blame them for is hiring Nathan Jones. Quite simply not fit for purpose and the data-driven, Excel spreadsheet hiring bias exposed the criminal lack of due-diligence in such a crucial hiring. Villa get Emery, Wolves get Lopitegu, we get mad Nate - comical, but really not. Monumental managerial mistake to take such an unnecessary risk with an untried manager (actually already red-flagged if management had bothered to speak with any Stoke fan).

Edited 14 May, 2023 by Vancouver Saint

[S-Clarke]

5 hours ago, channonwindmill said:

Eighteen years ago I was devastated when we were relegated - this time I feel strangely apathetic about the whole thing.

Yep ditto, I think a lot of this feeling is because of the fact it's been a slow inevitable death - we've kind of all known for months, it's not crept up on us like a last min shock so i think a lot of us have been able to prepare our minds. 

The last time we were relegated we put up more of an effort and took it to the last game, so a lot of us still had a hope we'd make it. This season I think we all knew we'd never, ever take this to the final few games.

[Whitey Grandad]

Just now, S-Clarke said:

Yep ditto, I think a lot of this feeling is because of the fact it's been a slow inevitable death - we've kind of all known for months, it's not crept up on us like a last min shock so i think a lot of us have been able to prepare our minds. 

The last time we were relegated we put up more of an effort and took it to the last game, so a lot of us still had a hope we'd make it. This season I think we all knew we'd never, ever take this to the final few games.

Yes, the hope had faded long ago.

[LiberalCommunist]

I'm actually a bit excited. Leaving VAR behind. The big six. £100M players. Shit fans. Shit talking points. Its been a trudge the last few years.

Bet we are all bzzin in the build up to the new campaign. 

(surely our owner has accounted for this and we won't have stories of bankruptcy in the next few weeks)

[Whitey Grandad]

2 minutes ago, LiberalCommunist said:

I'm actually a bit excited. Leaving VAR behind. The big six. £100M players. Shit fans. Shit talking points. It’s been a trudge the last few years.

Bet we are all bzzin in the build up to the new campaign. 

(surely our owner has accounted for this and we won't have stories of bankruptcy in the next few weeks)

How wonderful. There was a bizarre incident in the first half yesterday when after repelling an attack we took a quick throw in in their half on our left flank releasing Stu into space and heading for their penalty area. The referee brought the game back for the throw in because VAR were looking at a potential handball in the previous attack.

That is ridiculous interference in the flow of the game.

[LiberalCommunist]

Can't stand it. The celebrating when the goals ruled out like its a fucking goal. 

What has happened to the game. Just awful. 

[Lighthouse]

1 minute ago, LiberalCommunist said:

Can't stand it. The celebrating when the goals ruled out like its a fucking goal. 

What has happened to the game. Just awful. 

It’s no different to saving a penalty. I’m not sure people will feel the same when we’re on the receiving end of a couple of howlers next season. Stuff like David Silva’s goal against us in 2014 or Fonte’s penalty against Brighton. I’ll take minor disruption to the flow of the game to stop results swinging on things like that.

[AlexLaw76]

2 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

It’s no different to saving a penalty. I’m not sure people will feel the same when we’re on the receiving end of a couple of howlers next season. Stuff like David Silva’s goal against us in 2014 or Fonte’s penalty against Brighton. I’ll take minor disruption to the flow of the game to stop results swinging on things like that.

agreed here

Gabiandinni's goal being ruled out was worth it for no VAR

[LiberalCommunist]

I'd understand that argument more if they were getting it right when doing the reviews. But its still so subjective. The same challenge a week later leads to a justified different outcome. Might as well leave it to one guy in real time. 

Makes me doubt every goal we score, sucks the fun out of it. I can't stand it. 

[Streaky]

2 hours ago, SW11_Saint said:

Though how many were ‘effective crosses’? (i.e. got to their intended target area). PO was only on for the last 25 mins in that game wasn’t he? By which time Brentford were in total control. 

All I remember is we had lots of the ball in our own half but never looked like scoring and Brentford knew it. Just waited to hit us on the break. I think Oanachu got on the end of 1 Cross when he came on.

[Osvaldorama]

9 minutes ago, LiberalCommunist said:

I'd understand that argument more if they were getting it right when doing the reviews. But its still so subjective. The same challenge a week later leads to a justified different outcome. Might as well leave it to one guy in real time. 

Makes me doubt every goal we score, sucks the fun out of it. I can't stand it. 

100% agree. Would rather have big blunders and still be able to celebrate goals properly than the sanitised boredom of VAR. 

[Saint Fan CaM]

For the first time I switched off when the second goal went in - just knew it was pointless from that point onwards, but of course in truth its been pointless putting any faith in this Saints team and coaching set-up for months and months.  As someone has already said - I feel sadly despondent about the relegation which was inevitable.  I got criticised months ago for suggesting the manner in which we play needed to change to turn fortunes around - remarkably it didn't change despite two Managers post-Ralph and that is a big mystery to me.  Is there some master-plan that requires Managers and coaches to play in a certain manner or are the players just not good enough to enact the game plan?  Or quite possibly both?  

I don't think anyone should be celebrating the possibility of more wins in the Championship provided by a new coach and team.  Despite SR's insistence that there will be changes, improvement and presumably investment, I think we will struggle.  Possibly flirt with relegation again.  It's a very tough league to compete in, let alone mount a promotion challenge.  It's going to take significant effort, skill and nouse to turn this club into a one that can win...let's face it who remembers what that looks and feels like?!?

The only thing left to 'look forward to' now is the humiliation at the hands of Liverpool.  If they're on their game we could be ending this dreadful season on the high of another 9-0 thrashing.

COYR!

[JRM]

1 hour ago, LiberalCommunist said:

Can't stand it. The celebrating when the goals ruled out like its a fucking goal. 

What has happened to the game. Just awful. 

Agree, cannot wait to see the back of it, absolutely fucking sick of celebrating a goal then looking up at the board 30 seconds later to see VAR review whilst we all stand around for minutes whilst they draw their lines in Stockley Park, huge bonus being in the championship if we get away from such interference 

[S-Clarke]

1 minute ago, JRM said:

Agree, cannot wait to see the back of it, absolutely fucking sick of celebrating a goal then looking up at the board 30 seconds later to see VAR review whilst we all stand around for minutes whilst they draw their lines in Stockley Park, huge bonus being in the championship if we get away from such interference 

Fairly sure it comes to the Championship in season 24/25, so we won't be away from it for too long.

[Dellman]

1 hour ago, S-Clarke said:

Yep ditto, I think a lot of this feeling is because of the fact it's been a slow inevitable death - we've kind of all known for months, it's not crept up on us like a last min shock so i think a lot of us have been able to prepare our minds. 

The last time we were relegated we put up more of an effort and took it to the last game, so a lot of us still had a hope we'd make it. This season I think we all knew we'd never, ever take this  that things would hangeto the final few games.

 

Exactly! We've known for ages, the team never gave any sign that things would change, so there was no shock, just disappointment spread over a long period. Last time it all hung on the last match, and we took the lead and hopes were high until the last 45 mins of the season. Very different this time.

[JRM]

37 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said:

100% agree. Would rather have big blunders and still be able to celebrate goals properly than the sanitised boredom of VAR. 

Amen brother , sanitised boredom should be the new name for the Premier league 

[Mr X]

I would like to think this relegation was needed to come back stronger and instill a different mentality in the players hopefully a winning one and not a losing mentality however I'm not sure SR are the right people to get us back to the premier league they have made such bad mistakes they don't seem to have any plans or if they do they are not communicated to the fans in a transparent way

[DT]

I’m getting a bit nervous about how many people think it will be a breeze in the Championship and that we will be a big fish in a small pond. It won’t be. And we will not be. Plenty more down to come as long as delude egotists like Rasmussen Ankersen at the club, who are clearly unwavering in their stupid beliefs that they are in some way ‘outliers’ and progressive, out of the box thinkers who gain the edge over the average guy through their ability to take risks and reap the rewards. It might have been a fluke at Brentford that he got lucky with, but patting himself on the back for unearthing another diamond from the lower leagues is clearly what drives him. Even after the abject failures of the Welsh twat and the Spanish fraud. It’s amazing that no-one sees through him. Except, of course l, the swathe of senior staff that have chosen the door rather than be here to watch a man wallowing in his self-delusion. I can’t see any progress whatsoever until he is gone. 

[so22saint]

DT, the Championship is going to be bloody hard, but as long as we have a club I'll be there.  If we reset, buy a spine of Championship specialists to bring the younguns that stay along, and get a decent manager with experience of promotion then it should be fun at least.  If we leave Selles in charge and not do what I said, League One could be calling given the state of the club...

[DT]

5 minutes ago, so22saint said:

DT, the Championship is going to be bloody hard, but as long as we have a club I'll be there.  If we reset, buy a spine of Championship specialists to bring the younguns that stay along, and get a decent manager with experience of promotion then it should be fun at least.  If we leave Selles in charge and not do what I said, League One could be calling given the state of the club...

Agreed