ally_uk Posted 3 May, 2023 Share Posted 3 May, 2023 Who would you like to see in the first team next season? Keep the lineup realistic Ultimate fantasy scenario keep Lavia for one more season. Bazunu, Tella, Smallbone, Alcarez, Sulemana, Bednerek, Stephens, livramento, Perraud, Edozie Ballard + Doyle Mara and a new striker Walcot maybe for one more season. And bring in some experience another Def Mid, centre back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 3 May, 2023 Share Posted 3 May, 2023 Just now, ally_uk said: Who would you like to see in the first team next season? Keep the lineup realistic Ultimate fantasy scenario keep Lavia for one more season. Bazunu, Tella, Smallbone, Alcarez, Sulemana, Bednerek, Stephens, livramento, Perraud, Edozie Ballard + Doyle Mara and a new striker Walcot maybe for one more season. And bring in some experience another Def Mid, centre back. Would Walcott be cost effective ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 3 May, 2023 Share Posted 3 May, 2023 What happens to the others that still have valid contracts? Do we honour those contracts or just ignore them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 3 May, 2023 Share Posted 3 May, 2023 54 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: What happens to the others that still have valid contracts? Do we honour those contracts or just ignore them? It could be argued that they have spent the entire season in breach of their side of the agreements. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 3 May, 2023 Share Posted 3 May, 2023 realistically, I'd like to see something like this, although I wouldn't be surprised if a few of these left. New Keeper Tino Bednerak Stephens Perraud New DM (wouldn't be adverse to this being a been there and done it championship player, someone like Jack Cork...) Stu Alacaraz Sulemana New CF Tella --------------------- Leaving to make up a bench; Bazunu Bree New CB (depending on quality switch out for bednerak / stephens) - ideally an older head, bit of a leader. New DM Smallbone Aribo Edozie Tall Paul Mara Doyle Ballard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 3 May, 2023 Share Posted 3 May, 2023 Just putting it out there that our first eleven next season will have six players in it we don't know yet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvSFC Posted 3 May, 2023 Share Posted 3 May, 2023 In an ideal/realistic world: New GK Livramento - Stephens - New CB - New LB Two new CM's (Expect JWP, Lavia and Diallo to leave) Sulemana - Alcaraz - Tella/Edozie New ST Have no idea who we should sign, mind. Hopefully players coming into their peak. Considering all the profit we made off players like Ings, Lambert, Lovren, Van Dijk.... The list goes on, it's strange how the club turned to youth to make profits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 3 May, 2023 Share Posted 3 May, 2023 Assuming Che goes to another Prem team we’d definitely be wise to take a look at the Championship top 3 scorers this season of Akpom, Gyorkeres and Morris as possible replacements, even 2 of them if funds allow. In terms of goalkeeper it’d be good to sign an older head with the experience needed to lead a promotion charge if the club are serious about automatic promotion straight back to the Prem. Some back up GKs from Prem clubs like Begovic or Adrian on loan for the season would help much the same way Kelvins wise head was beneficial to the squad in 11/12. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 4 May, 2023 Share Posted 4 May, 2023 (edited) Keep McCarthy if his pay will be low enough. Otherwise Bazunu plus an old head. Tino, Bree, Larios. Ideally keep Perraud. If not, need a new LB. At CB, the only one I'd actually want to keep is Bednarek, funnily enough. Salisu clearly wants out. ABK too good but misses a lot of games. Stephens.. meh. Lyanco, too mental. We should try to negotiate with City and Lavia to sell now with a loan back for another year. Unlikely, I guess. So that leaves Smallbone. Diallo can leave. Need some experience at CM. We should do whatever we can to keep Alcaraz. I'd give Walcott another year if he'll take sensible wages. I'd also keep Djenepo, and Edozie should get a chance. Supplement with a nipper. If Tella is around too, then great. Aribo and Moi can do one. Stuart Armstrong seems to have fitness issues now. Orsic... lol. Up front, I'd keep Tall Paul and look to shift everyone else. Adams will be wanted by lower Prem teams. So, basically, need a rebuild at CB, CM and striker, and hopefully one or two of the youth can come through. CB and CM needs to be folk with leadership attributes. Edited 4 May, 2023 by benjii 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 4 May, 2023 Share Posted 4 May, 2023 I would be highly worried if Ballard ad/or Doyle are starting in our opening game next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExSholingSaint Posted 4 May, 2023 Share Posted 4 May, 2023 We should do everything we can in order to keep hold of Lavia, Alcaraz & Tella. Those three will tear up the Championship. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 4 May, 2023 Share Posted 4 May, 2023 17 hours ago, CB Fry said: Just putting it out there that our first eleven next season will have six players in it we don't know yet. Orsic and Tall Paul? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 4 May, 2023 Share Posted 4 May, 2023 If I had to have a punt now....big changes this summer. Whether we'll be able to shift this many it remains to be seen. Squad of 22 + kids GK: Bazunu, Macca, New RB: Tino, Bree LB: Perraud, Larios CB: Bednarek, Stephens, NEW, NEW CM: NEW, NEW, Smallbone; Alcaraz, SArmstrong, LM/RM: Sulemena, Tella, NEW, Edozie, Dibling ST; NEW, Mara, Ballard Leaves the below going: 18!!! Caballero KWP, Lyanco, Salisu, ABK, DCC, AMN Diallo, JWP, Lavia, Djenepo, Elyounoussi, Aribo, Walcott, Orsic Che, AArmstrong, Onuachu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West end Saints Posted 4 May, 2023 Share Posted 4 May, 2023 42 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: If I had to have a punt now....big changes this summer. Whether we'll be able to shift this many it remains to be seen. Squad of 22 + kids GK: Bazunu, Macca, New RB: Tino, Bree LB: Perraud, Larios CB: Bednarek, Stephens, NEW, NEW CM: NEW, NEW, Smallbone; Alcaraz, SArmstrong, LM/RM: Sulemena, Tella, NEW, Edozie, Dibling ST; NEW, Mara, Ballard Leaves the below going: 18!!! Caballero KWP, Lyanco, Salisu, ABK, DCC, AMN Diallo, JWP, Lavia, Djenepo, Elyounoussi, Aribo, Walcott, Orsic Che, AArmstrong, Onuachu The CM looks unbalanced to me. Stu is liability unless he is further forward, too weak/lazy and gives the ball away in dangerous positions. He only works in a more attacking role, and tbh not very well there for the last two years. Alcarez looks best, for me, in a attacking AM role. I'm not sure how smallbone plays now but we look two players light in CM or DM roles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 4 May, 2023 Share Posted 4 May, 2023 3 hours ago, West end Saints said: The CM looks unbalanced to me. Stu is liability unless he is further forward, too weak/lazy and gives the ball away in dangerous positions. He only works in a more attacking role, and tbh not very well there for the last two years. Alcarez looks best, for me, in an attacking AM role. I'm not sure how smallbone plays now but we look two players light in CM or DM roles. That’s why I put 2 new players in there, CM/AM are pretty fluid, cos it depends on systems etc, 442, 433, 4231, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 4 May, 2023 Share Posted 4 May, 2023 Love that people think clubs who avoid relegation or go up are going to be queueing up to sign Adams, Dialo and Sulemana. If I were a West Ham, Bournemouth or Sheff Utd I'd want my club to be setting their sights a lot higher than our lot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 4 May, 2023 Share Posted 4 May, 2023 52 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said: Love that people think clubs who avoid relegation or go up are going to be queueing up to sign Adams, Dialo and Sulemana. If I were a West Ham, Bournemouth or Sheff Utd I'd want my club to be setting their sights a lot higher than our lot. Shit point. Villa took Bednarek, so there is hope for everyone... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forester Posted 4 May, 2023 Share Posted 4 May, 2023 (edited) Bazanu or McCarthy Tino, Bednarek, DCC, Perraud New Dm, New DM Smallbone, Alcaraz, Tella, Mara This is not unrealistic in my opinion as August line up. Assumes sale of JWP and Lavia, KWP, Salisu, ABK and Adams. The big gap is clear and we need a Dean Hammond type character who is decent, but not special, on the ball but really puts a shift in Edited 4 May, 2023 by Forester 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West end Saints Posted 4 May, 2023 Share Posted 4 May, 2023 2 hours ago, Saint Garrett said: That’s why I put 2 new players in there, CM/AM are pretty fluid, cos it depends on systems etc, 442, 433, 4231, Wasn't criticism of you, just that think we need to buy in more balance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 4 May, 2023 Share Posted 4 May, 2023 2 hours ago, Bad Wolf said: Love that people think clubs who avoid relegation or go up are going to be queueing up to sign Adams, Dialo and Sulemana. If I were a West Ham, Bournemouth or Sheff Utd I'd want my club to be setting their sights a lot higher than our lot. Sulemena has had half a season, playing for a shit team, managed by Jones and Selles. There’s no doubt he’s got something about him at his age. Adams is a good player as he’s shown over the last few years, but he’s not a natural goalscorer. He will have suitors. Diallo I’m assuming we’ll flog back to France or something, 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 5 May, 2023 Share Posted 5 May, 2023 It’s okay naming most of the current team in for next season but remember if we make it back up up again they will struggle. It needs a whole rebuild and the momentum to take you up the leagues like we did with Lallana, Fonte and Lambert etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 5 May, 2023 Share Posted 5 May, 2023 1 hour ago, Pilchards said: It’s okay naming most of the current team in for next season but remember if we make it back up up again they will struggle. It needs a whole rebuild and the momentum to take you up the leagues like we did with Lallana, Fonte and Lambert etc. It’s a fair point RE momentum. We have a bunch of weak losers throughout the squad, all are used to losing and stricken with fear. It’ll take a while (or a shit load of new players) to change that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 5 May, 2023 Share Posted 5 May, 2023 9 hours ago, Saint Garrett said: Sulemena has had half a season, playing for a shit team, managed by Jones and Selles. There’s no doubt he’s got something about him at his age. Adams is a good player as he’s shown over the last few years, but he’s not a natural goalscorer. He will have suitors. Diallo I’m assuming we’ll flog back to France or something, I’d love for us to build a championship side around Sulemana and Alcaraz. I think the pair of them would rip that league up and give vital experience in English football. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nieldy Posted 5 May, 2023 Share Posted 5 May, 2023 I would be happy to give Adam Armstrong a chance as he has proven it at Championship level. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice29 Posted 5 May, 2023 Share Posted 5 May, 2023 Latest Athletic article summed up - ‘that player you think is leaving is probably leaving, the ones you didn’t probably aren’t but everything we say is with a huge caveat that it could change when the club and player decide at the end of the season’ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice29 Posted 5 May, 2023 Share Posted 5 May, 2023 1 hour ago, Pilchards said: It’s okay naming most of the current team in for next season but remember if we make it back up up again they will struggle. It needs a whole rebuild and the momentum to take you up the leagues like we did with Lallana, Fonte and Lambert etc. 100% agree with this. I especially can’t believe anyone is endorsing Bednarek/Stephens staying when we’ve been trying to replace them both for years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice29 Posted 5 May, 2023 Share Posted 5 May, 2023 17 hours ago, Saint Garrett said: If I had to have a punt now....big changes this summer. Whether we'll be able to shift this many it remains to be seen. Squad of 22 + kids GK: Bazunu, Macca, New RB: Tino, Bree LB: Perraud, Larios CB: Bednarek, Stephens, NEW, NEW CM: NEW, NEW, Smallbone; Alcaraz, SArmstrong, LM/RM: Sulemena, Tella, NEW, Edozie, Dibling ST; NEW, Mara, Ballard Leaves the below going: 18!!! Caballero KWP, Lyanco, Salisu, ABK, DCC, AMN Diallo, JWP, Lavia, Djenepo, Elyounoussi, Aribo, Walcott, Orsic Che, AArmstrong, Onuachu Suspect you can swap these around fwiw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 7 May, 2023 Share Posted 7 May, 2023 On 05/05/2023 at 09:30, Fabrice29 said: Suspect you can swap these around fwiw. Arma is off to Ipswich supposedly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 7 May, 2023 Share Posted 7 May, 2023 2 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: Arma is off to Ipswich supposedly. you watch, he wills score loads of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streaky Posted 7 May, 2023 Share Posted 7 May, 2023 Can't see how Tella will be staying but alcaraz and sulemana would be big for us in the championship. Might even be exciting winning some games for a change. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West end Saints Posted 7 May, 2023 Share Posted 7 May, 2023 If we get a decent manager and a couple of decent replacements we should be competitive: Keeper, I think Bazunu could be OK with another year experience and hopefully less in the firing line. RB we have two who I think both are good for this level. (Bree and Liv) LB - prob need to sign CB - we have 6 and I can't see them all leaving, so not likely to be a panic area but may need some balancing. C Midfield I see as one our priority. I would like to see Alcarez as our more advanced in a pair (although need to remember his age and will have dips in form), with Smallbone as another option. That leaves an controlling, prob experienced, captain type midfielder. Attacking options Tella maybe here Sulemana Edozie Dibling Maybe Aribo at that level, and a manager able to find his role? Maybe Djenepo within the squad. CF New?! Mara Ballard Not seen enough of Onuachu? Che would be decent and may stay, if those both go will need to sign a couple. Both Armstrongs need to go. Stu has been very poor for at least a couple of seasons, Adam needs a complete confidence reset. Orsic, God knows what's going on but can't want to be here now. Diallo, Ely, Walcott go. I wouldn't be against Djenepo within the squad I don't think the squad will be as big, so prioritise few key signings 1) CM 2) goal scoring forward (a new concept!) 3) more experienced attacking midfielder to compliment Edozie, Sulemana 4) LB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanovski Posted 7 May, 2023 Share Posted 7 May, 2023 (edited) Heard we are expecting 8 first teamers leaving, 9 if jwp wants to leave. Perraud only one I've been told is defo going but I'm assuming that's. Lavia Bazunu Perraud Walcott Abk Kwp Che Bednarek Edited 7 May, 2023 by Deanovski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 7 May, 2023 Share Posted 7 May, 2023 (edited) Bazunu - there is a god Mo is out of contract, so add him to the list (there is an Allah on this one) Edited 7 May, 2023 by AlexLaw76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 7 May, 2023 Share Posted 7 May, 2023 25 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Bazunu - there is a god Mo is out of contract, so add him to the list (there is an Allah on this one) Bazunu is better thanMcCarthy. Be careful what you wish for. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 7 May, 2023 Share Posted 7 May, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: you watch, he wills score loads of them He may well do, but I don't think we should ever look back on him as a missed opportunity if that does happen. He has stunk this place out for 2 years, sometimes players just don't fit a club for whatever reason and no matter how you try and prolong it - it won't change. I'd be more focused on building a team of players who could make the step up to the PL, rather than keeping around the guys who have failed us - as we all know they can't make the step up. Edited 7 May, 2023 by S-Clarke 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archers Road Stand Posted 7 May, 2023 Share Posted 7 May, 2023 38 minutes ago, Deanovski said: Heard we are expecting 8 first teamers leaving, 9 if jwp wants to leave. Perraud only one I've been told is defo going but I'm assuming that's. Lavia Bazunu Perraud Walcott Abk Kwp Che Bednarek Who would sign Bazunu from us? I'm not even convinced he's a Championship standard goalkeeper at the minute. He's only proven himself at midtable League One sides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 7 May, 2023 Share Posted 7 May, 2023 49 minutes ago, Archers Road Stand said: Who would sign Bazunu from us? I'm not even convinced he's a Championship standard goalkeeper at the minute. He's only proven himself at midtable League One sides. He’s not ready yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archers Road Stand Posted 7 May, 2023 Share Posted 7 May, 2023 1 hour ago, Whitey Grandad said: He’s not ready yet. What is he ready for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanovski Posted 7 May, 2023 Share Posted 7 May, 2023 5 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said: Bazunu - there is a god Mo is out of contract, so add him to the list (there is an Allah on this one) He's so shit I forgot about him, just like every game he plays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
santolijador Posted 7 May, 2023 Share Posted 7 May, 2023 5 hours ago, Deanovski said: Heard we are expecting 8 first teamers leaving, 9 if jwp wants to leave. Perraud only one I've been told is defo going but I'm assuming that's. Lavia Bazunu Perraud Walcott Abk Kwp Che Bednarek Salisu instead of bazunu surely 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanovski Posted 7 May, 2023 Share Posted 7 May, 2023 52 minutes ago, santolijador said: Salisu instead of bazunu surely Yeah i would imagine, too. That's just my guess. Forgot some of our anonymous players 😂😂😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 7 May, 2023 Share Posted 7 May, 2023 On 05/05/2023 at 00:46, Nieldy said: I would be happy to give Adam Armstrong a chance as he has proven it at Championship level. Me too. Yes he's been crap in the PL, but he's shown that he can do it at a level below. It would be mad to get rid of him without giving him a chance for half a season at least when we go down, and under a manager who isn't a clown. It's not like goal scorers, even at the Championship level, are ten a penny. I won't be happy if rumours that he's off to Ipswich are true, unless of course we bring in someone like Ings or Broja (which is highly unlikely). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 7 May, 2023 Share Posted 7 May, 2023 20 minutes ago, Dark Munster said: Me too. Yes he's been crap in the PL, but he's shown that he can do it at a level below. It would be mad to get rid of him without giving him a chance for half a season at least when we go down, and under a manager who isn't a clown. It's not like goal scorers, even at the Championship level, are ten a penny. I won't be happy if rumours that he's off to Ipswich are true, unless of course we bring in someone like Ings or Broja (which is highly unlikely). Zero guarantees on that one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 7 May, 2023 Share Posted 7 May, 2023 1 hour ago, Weston Super Saint said: Zero guarantees on that one... Especially if Rasmus W. Ankersen has any input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 7 May, 2023 Share Posted 7 May, 2023 Hopefully a whole new 11, get rid of all of the useless wankers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangelyBrown Posted 7 May, 2023 Share Posted 7 May, 2023 This hopefully is a unique opportunity for a major clear out of the dross we've kept for too long: McCarthy, Bednarek, Stephens, lyanco, moi, djenepo, A Armstrong, Walcott can all go as far as I'm concerned. I can't see us keeping ABK, KWP, Salisu, JWP, Lavia and by the sounds of it Perraud. Hopefully we'll be able to keep che, Livramento and Alcarez. In which case the first team is going to be a bit threadbare: Bazunu; Livramento, 2 * New CBs, Larios; Smallbone, New CM; Sulemana, Alcarez, Edozie; Che. With the likes of Ballard and Doyle coming through, I fully expect us to neglect a striker unless Che goes. Should be interesting... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fanimal Posted 7 May, 2023 Share Posted 7 May, 2023 I honestly think Lyanco should be reincarnated as a centre forward just the aggressive passionate man needed up front Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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