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JRM

JRM

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  On 08/05/2023 at 21:11, S-Clarke said:

Proud of what, exactly?

They've just let in 4 goals to a team in the bottom 3 of the league. There is nothing to be proud of, this team are an embarrassment to the City and the history of this club and will forever be remembered as our WORST ever top flight team, nothing even comes close.

Stick that in your trophy cabinet AMN.

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Forest are a poor side, we gifted them goals and didn't match their fight or desire 

egg

egg

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  On 08/05/2023 at 21:14, Badger said:

Give Rasmus the summer to sort things, and there's a possibility the feeling of hope you're expecting may have drained out of you by September.

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Ha!! Rasmus aside, I'll be a hell of a lot more excited come the start of next season than I was at the start of this one. 

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verlaine1979

verlaine1979

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  On 08/05/2023 at 21:15, st alex said:

According to match stats they had 9 shots, 4 on target, to our 19 shots, 5 on target.

4 shots on target, 4 goals.

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To be fair, the three from open play were basically hit from the six yard box with only the keeper to beat. Maybe if Adams wasn't always rocked back on his heels like an old farmer remembering a historic drought, he might have scored a few like that himself this season.

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wadesmith

wadesmith

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  On 08/05/2023 at 21:14, S-Clarke said:

Start again without some of these bloody losers is a start, and it's not all about money as this season has more than proven.

Give me some heart and spine and I'll be happy, this lot can go to hell.

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  On 08/05/2023 at 21:14, S-Clarke said:

Start again without some of these bloody losers is a start, and it's not all about money as this season has more than proven.

Give me some heart and spine and I'll be happy, this lot can go to hell.

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I know it’s  not all about money.But everyone  keeps going on about some sort of imagined reset next season . Do people think the owners are going to suddenly say ‘Ok we’ve gone down a division..let’s start taking this seriously’ What are people basing this exciting reset on? I’m not trying to trick you, but why are are owners suddenly going to become less incompetent? 😊 

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Nordic Saint

Nordic Saint

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  On 08/05/2023 at 21:10, Saint_clark said:

 He's shit, but not as shit as Bazunu.

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At £80,000 per week, McCarthy is just more expensive shit. In fact, when Ward-Prowse leaves, he'll be the most expensive shit at the club. What makes it worse is that some random fan from the crowd, who'd play for nothing, would probably save more shots than he does. 

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Nemi

Nemi

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  On 08/05/2023 at 21:08, Saint Fan CaM said:

Will hate seeing JWP playing for us still. He’s not got enough for the Championship. Absolute loser mentality and no grit whatsoever. A shadow of a player compared to the midfield (e.g. Spiderman) we had when challenging for promotion last time.

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100%

He spent the last 15 minutes camped on the halfway line and the only time he bothered running up the pitch was to take a corner.

If your midfielder doing that every game your gonna struggle no matter the league.

whiteleySaint30

whiteleySaint30

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  On 08/05/2023 at 21:09, Saintscummer said:

I think having gone up there they deserve the right to do whatever they want. Calling them cxnts is a bit extreme 

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Whilst I totally agree with your sentiments I have to say we have the wettest fans in the prem. At no other club would they be able to turn in this shit every week and get away with it. As for selles, he's been every bit as shit as Jones but is also getting a free ride.........

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S-Clarke

S-Clarke

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  On 08/05/2023 at 21:18, wadesmith said:

 

I know it’s  not all about money.But everyone  keeps going on about some sort of imagined reset next season . Do people think the owners are going to suddenly say ‘Ok we’ve gone down a division..let’s start taking this seriously’ What are people basing this exciting reset on? I’m not trying to trick you, but why are are owners suddenly going to become less incompetent? 😊 

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The decision being made leave me nervous for the summer, 100% - but I will just be happy that we won't have Diallo, AMN and co trying to play football for us next year. Dare I say it, I probably won't miss JWP's impression of a crab in open play either.

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Lee On Solent Saint

Lee On Solent Saint

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  On 08/05/2023 at 21:12, Lord Duckhunter said:

They’re 2 that play like they care, yet get clog on here. If Bednarek had come from Villa as an unknown he’d be hailed as a decent signing. He’s got more heart than Salisu, ABK & Colleta-Carr added together. 

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Agreed with Bednarek, he has been pretty decent since he returned. Wouldn't be the worst thing we could do in keeping him.

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harvey

harvey

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  On 08/05/2023 at 21:17, Chez said:

played pretty well again, except for the first goal - he should not be letting the striker get ahead of him there. Not sure about him being captain, but does it really matter who is captain in football?

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Errrrrrrr.....yes it does. I'm a bit confused that you've even said that as your'e a very sensible poster on here.

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Streaky

Streaky

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  On 08/05/2023 at 21:08, Chez said:

when we've got players worse than Diallo at CM you will miss him.

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I won't miss whoever leaves, there all crap. Pity we can't sell them all and start again.

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Suhari

Suhari

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  On 08/05/2023 at 21:15, The Curse of St Mary's said:

Defending was embarrassing. AMN woeful but ABK was shocking as well imo. No balance in the side with KWP at Left back. Strange Moussa not even on bench tonight. 

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Ummmm. KWP played RB today.

Even so, we were shit.

madge

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Don’t get the hate for JWP, he’s been a great player for us last few years. Imagine trying to captain the shower of shite he needs to lead. I really hope he’d stay but a decent manager who knows how to utilise him effectively will pick him up in the premier league and he’ll excel again, no doubt. Half the bellends slagging him off on this site probably have never set foot in st Mary’s. I hope the fans start turning on the fuckwits running our club at the Fulham game as this is the reason as to why we’re where we are. 
 

Needs a clear out, decent manager, new board members and experienced coaching team in place for the start of pre season. 

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SaintTex

SaintTex

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way to step on your dicks, Saints.

We win that game tonight and the table stands as below with 3 matches left:

Everton 32 (next match - City)

Leicester 30 (next match - Liverpool)

Leeds 30 (next match -  Newcastle)

Forest 30 (next match - Chelsea)

Saints 27 (next match - Fulham)

lots of losable matches for our rivals, but we cant win, so the argument is moot.. but still...

 

disconnect

disconnect

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Edozie and Sulemana both were good, direct and looked like they would make things happen when they came on (as they do most times they play). It's almost as if Selles doesnt want us to win / score. Now we're relegated and he's pissed off the fans by playing this crap football and pissed off the better players by constantly overlooking them. Fun times.

Badger

Badger

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  On 08/05/2023 at 21:18, egg said:

Ha!! Rasmus aside, I'll be a hell of a lot more excited come the start of next season than I was at the start of this one. 

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Fair point, assuming the recruitment is realistic for the league we're in

Holmes_and_Watson

Holmes_and_Watson

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I remember Tuchel explaining and dismantling RalphBall in a post match interview.

GIbbs-White said their plan was to press. But because we were retaining posession early on, they looked to just sit back a little, and then catch us on the break. Sure enough, we had a little flurry of looking like we could attack, but it was really Forest just dropiing back, to be a little more compact, while biding their time. We over extend and get done. Simple and we got suckered., even though we would surely know about the pace of the likes of Johnson. It's seeing how naive we are here, that makes sense of our managers consistently continuing with broken tactics for the rest of the season. They simply have no answers at all, and you wonder about the rigour of the process to bring them/ keep them at the club.

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Saint_clark

Saint_clark

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  On 08/05/2023 at 21:19, Nordic Saint said:

At £80,000 per week, McCarthy is just more expensive shit. In fact, when Ward-Prowse leaves, he'll be the most expensive shit at the club. What makes it worse is that some random fan from the crowd, who'd play for nothing, would probably save more shots than he does. 

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Yes, but we're paying that money whether he plays or not. I'm not suggesting either of them should be first choice next season.

Marsdinho

Marsdinho

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I doubt very much that we will bounce back any time soon. Going to take one hell of a rebuild job to get us back up. Not looking forward to years and years of depressing mid table finishes in the Championship. Im 46, I wonder if I will ever see Saints in the top division ever again. 

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Sunglasses Ron

Sunglasses Ron

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  On 08/05/2023 at 21:23, SaintTex said:

way to step on your dicks, Saints.

We win that game tonight and the table stands as below with 3 matches left:

Everton 32 (next match - City)

Leicester 30 (next match - Liverpool)

Leeds 30 (next match -  Newcastle)

Forest 30 (next match - Chelsea)

Saints 27 (next match - Fulham)

lots of losable matches for our rivals, but we cant win, so the argument is moot.. but still...

 

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That’s literally been the case since January. Fact is, we’re fucking shite.

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Fabrice29

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  On 08/05/2023 at 21:19, Nemi said:


100%

He spent the last 15 minutes camped on the halfway line and the only time he bothered running up the pitch was to take a corner.

If your midfielder doing that every game your gonna struggle no matter the league.

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Pretty sure he was injured for a lot of the second half fwiw. Although I agree that he's been very forgettable for a while now.

egg

egg

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  On 08/05/2023 at 21:20, Osvaldorama said:

Selles is awful. 
 

This team will struggle in the championship. Clueless. 

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Yep, but the bonus is we won't have Selles or that team on the championship. 🤞🙏🤞🙏🤞🙏

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Give it to Ron

Give it to Ron

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One period of play summed us up , we had a free kick just in our half, Bedanarek takes it passes to Lavia passes to Bk passes to Bednarek 3 passes and went absolutely nowhere.

Just go Selles your football is absolute shite. Poor squad no care ABK should never wear shirt again doesn’t want to be here at fault first 2 strolls back for first. Couldn’t be arsed second and gets off pitch ASAP slight niggle.

It’s club philosophy though come here 18 months and bugger off for profit why should they care

 

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Saintsfan79

Saintsfan79

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  On 08/05/2023 at 21:14, ally_uk said:

Well that's that then cigars and brandy ahoy chaps!

Writing has been on the wall this season has been a royal cluster fack of decision making. 

Time for certain board members to look themselves in the mirror put the egos to the side and realise that they are not as amazing and clever as they think they are......

Time for a mass clearout on all levels starting at board level downwards time for a proper reset.

Get a new new manager, coaches and instill a football philosophy and set the standards across all levels....

We also need leaders on the pitch and a sprinkling of experience! lessons must be learnt and the youth simply cannot do it all they need guidance and mentorship! 

Onwards ! 

 

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If they could be told this in 1 sentence without how been spout we all could brc cool 

harvey

harvey

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  On 08/05/2023 at 21:23, madge said:

Don’t get the hate for JWP, he’s been a great player for us last few years. Imagine trying to captain the shower of white he needs to lead. I really hope he’d stay but a decent manager who knows how to utilise him effectively will pick him up in the premier league and he’ll excel again, no doubt. Half the bellends slagging him off on this site probably have never set foot in st Mary’s. I hope the fans start turning on the fuckwits running our club at the Fulham game as this is the reason as to why we’re where we are. 
 

Needs a clear out, decent manager, new board members and experienced coaching team in place for the start of pre season. 

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He hasn't led at all, no way is he a captain!. He will do ok in a lower Premier club but no more than that........a regular at The Dell and St Marys until recently btw.

woodsaint1

woodsaint1

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  On 08/05/2023 at 21:15, Tommy said:

Best centre half at the club and has shown a lot of desire since coming back in to improve the club position.

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He'll not be here next season. He threw the toys out of the pram to get a move before (except nobody would take him permanently) and he'll be onto his agent to get a move again. Hes an established Polish international, he will not be wanting to play in the second tier in the lead up to the Euros.

He can go for all I care. Very average CB along with the rest of them - Salisu (gave up a long time ago), ABK (always injured), Lyanco (crap), DCC (looks lost at PL level)

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saint1977

saint1977

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Only Jan, Lyanco, Stu, Alcaraz put in any kind of shift there. AMN rightly getting stick but how bad were Che, ABK and sad to say, JWP?

ABK is the by far the shittiest CB in our top flight history playing a decent number of games for Saints unlike Marshall or Davenport who were cameo/bit part although two bit as well. As someone else posted, heart of a pea and can’t wait to see the back of him as well as 80% of the other imposters. We’ve had some not great CBs but at least the rest tried to play more than 30 minutes and could play on with a chipped fingernail. As long as Lyanco can tolerate the broken finger, I’d rather see him last 3 games. The lad has some backbone at least. 

Diallo - why is our worst ever top flight CM still appearing? At least Quashie could score the odd goal. Adam Armstrong - Ipswich cannot seriously think he’s better than Ladapo. 

Che - give Ballard a game, didn’t compete all game. Their Centre Half May as well as read a Kindle all night. 

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JRM

JRM

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  On 08/05/2023 at 21:12, Lord Duckhunter said:

They’re 2 that play like they care, yet get clog on here. If Bednarek had come from Villa as an unknown he’d be hailed as a decent signing. He’s got more heart than Salisu, ABK & Colleta-Carr added together. 

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What's the story with Salisu? I've heard from a couple of people he's basically refusing to play.

woodsaint1

woodsaint1

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  On 08/05/2023 at 21:29, harvey said:

He hasn't led at all, no way is he a captain!. He will do ok in a lower Premier club but no more than that........a regular at The Dell and St Marys until recently btw.

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He may not be captain material, but he cares about the club and without his contribution we would have been relegated last season and likely pushing Derbys record this season. He deserves a move to a mid table PL club and he'll get it (a move abroad might not be the worst idea - pace of Serie A would suit him)

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Nemi

Nemi

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  On 08/05/2023 at 21:27, Fabrice29 said:

Pretty sure he was injured for a lot of the second half fwiw. Although I agree that he's been very forgettable for a while now.

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If he didn’t do the same almost every game I’d buy it

egg

egg

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  On 08/05/2023 at 21:31, JRM said:

What's the story with Salisu? I've heard from a couple of people he's basically refusing to play.

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I think we're refusing to play him. Contact related apparently. 

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Cabrone

Cabrone

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Glad it's over now. If we'd have somehow scraped through this it would have been the same again next season. The rot would still be there.

The clear out starts tomorrow. We need players that can rebuild our shattered mojo and put some belief back into the battered fans.

We will need some serious healing before we get back into this league.

 

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whelk

whelk

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  On 08/05/2023 at 21:29, harvey said:

He hasn't led at all, no way is he a captain!. He will do ok in a lower Premier club but no more than that........a regular at The Dell and St Marys until recently btw.

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He is shit and fucking annoys me how every pundit raves about him. Doesn’t motivate the players and play like a pussy most games. 
 

I am season ticket holder for ages and played loads over the years so this bs that only educated fans understand his worth. 

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Ekelund

Ekelund

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This bednarek love in sums us up. He’s dog shit and was over the moon with his move to villa. why are we now so willing to accept this knobhead? 
 

Now the constant finger pointing is being spun into captain material 🤣

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woodsaint1

woodsaint1

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  On 08/05/2023 at 21:31, JRM said:

What's the story with Salisu? I've heard from a couple of people he's basically refusing to play.

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Wouldnt be surprised. Out of contract next season, never had any intention of signing a new one and he checked out months ago

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Lallana's Left Peg

Lallana's Left Peg

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Sometimes its hard to know if the players are ok and the manager is terrible, or the manager is ok and the players are terrible, and then it dawns on you that both the players and manager is terrible and it all makes sense why we're on course to have the sixth lowest points total in Premier League history.

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