trousers Posted 27 August, 2023 Share Posted 27 August, 2023 1 hour ago, S-Clarke said: I always felt that was his best role, even more of an 8 - licence to attack, not worrying about the pivot and all that stuff. In one of the only things Nathan Jones did correctly, it was using JWP in that 8 (that goal he scored in Open Play against Everton was an example of what he can do in that position). Our lack of numbers and quality in CM meant we had to shoehorn him elsewhere under the more cautious managers (Selles). He'll do well surrounded by Soucek and Alvarez. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 27 August, 2023 Share Posted 27 August, 2023 58 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: Maybe not now, but in years to come when nobody really cares about who he used to be because he was just one of any number of faceless mercenary footballers who chased a few extra quid. Guess I just have different priorities to the majority of people. He will never be seen as that by a massive majority of fans. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 27 August, 2023 Share Posted 27 August, 2023 1 hour ago, Saint_clark said: Maybe not now, but in years to come when nobody really cares about who he used to be because he was just one of any number of faceless mercenary footballers who chased a few extra quid. I came here for the shittest possible take on JWP, so thanks for providing it. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 27 August, 2023 Share Posted 27 August, 2023 1 hour ago, Saint_clark said: Maybe not now, but in years to come when nobody really cares about who he used to be because he was just one of any number of faceless mercenary footballers who chased a few extra quid. Guess I just have different priorities to the majority of people. What a load of old pony. I don’t even particularly rate the bloke, but I don’t consider him a “faceless mercenary”. Nobody I’ve met considers Steve Williams, Danny Wallace or Ricky Lambert mercenaries. Even Alan Shearer, who fucked off the minute he had the chance, isn’t thought of like that. People are justifiably proud that we started Alan on his road to being a great. In years to come people will remember Prowse for his 400 odd games, his years of service & his free kicks. Nobody with any sense will think any worse of him because he wanted to stay in the top flight. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Cat Posted 27 August, 2023 Share Posted 27 August, 2023 3 hours ago, sledger said: did you here the stupid hammers fans singing champions of europe youll never win that to brighton fans after winning last years euro conference pub cup or maybe it was tongue in cheek also after watching ward prowse yesterday couldnt help but wonder if he could have done a lot more at the back end of last season. Winning a made up European trophy for also rans doesn't exactly mean they are champions of Europe because that's obviously Man City. Seems like they enjoyed it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 27 August, 2023 Share Posted 27 August, 2023 I like JWP, don't get me wrong, but that golf celebration is lame and embarrassing IMO 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisonlyonemickychannon Posted 27 August, 2023 Share Posted 27 August, 2023 Turncoat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 27 August, 2023 Share Posted 27 August, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said: I don’t even particularly rate the bloke F*** me, you kept that one quiet... Edited 27 August, 2023 by trousers 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 27 August, 2023 Share Posted 27 August, 2023 1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said: What a load of old pony. I don’t even particularly rate the bloke, but I don’t consider him a “faceless mercenary”. Nobody I’ve met considers Steve Williams, Danny Wallace or Ricky Lambert mercenaries. Even Alan Shearer, who fucked off the minute he had the chance, isn’t thought of like that. People are justifiably proud that we started Alan on his road to being a great. In years to come people will remember Prowse for his 400 odd games, his years of service & his free kicks. Nobody with any sense will think any worse of him because he wanted to stay in the top flight. Makes a smashing son-in-law too, don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 27 August, 2023 Share Posted 27 August, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ex Lion Tamer said: I like JWP, don't get me wrong, but that golf celebration is lame and embarrassing IMO What’s wrong with just putting your arm up, shaking a couple of hands & then running back to the half way line. Somebody once said (I think it may have been Shanks), that you should act like it’s an everyday occurrence, that it was no big deal, you got a chance & buried it because that’s what you do. I guess that ship sailed years ago. Edited 27 August, 2023 by Lord Duckhunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Red Posted 27 August, 2023 Share Posted 27 August, 2023 Not a fan of the Channon windmill then? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 27 August, 2023 Share Posted 27 August, 2023 4 hours ago, CB Fry said: I came here for the shittest possible take on JWP, so thanks for providing it. He was beaten to it by the old man on here that calls him 'the son in law'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 On 27/08/2023 at 12:22, Saint_clark said: I think he's nailed on for the England squad with Henderson leaving for the middle east and him now playing for one of the FAs favoured teams. Or not... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
23rdSaint Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 Just now, trousers said: Or not... Some of those squad inclusions... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevy777_x Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 Joke selection again 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 5 minutes ago, 23rdSaint said: Some of those squad inclusions... I don't understand why JWP isn't ahead of Henderson and Phillips as things stand. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 (edited) Imagine you are JWP right now. A semi-retired Henderson and Phillips who has barely played for 2 years get in the squad ahead of you. Must be livid. Edited 31 August, 2023 by BotleySaint 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 3 minutes ago, BotleySaint said: Imagine you are JWP right now. A semi-retired Henderson and Phillips who has barely played for 2 years get in the squad ahead of you. Must be livid. Might as well have stayed with us. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 12 minutes ago, BotleySaint said: Imagine you are JWP right now. A semi-retired Henderson and Phillips who has barely played for 2 years get in the squad ahead of you. Must be livid. Sends a sign out to players no matter how well you are playing you won't get in for favourites. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 22 minutes ago, trousers said: I don't understand why JWP isn't ahead of Henderson and Phillips as things stand. trousers ... I agree 100% , but you have undoubtedly forgotten about the absolute power of the media. If the Sky and BBC pundits don't fancy him, then he has no chance of getting into the England team. Southgate will have Henderson on an Emirates flight back from the Middle East (even if he's injured), before the next squad is even officially announced, and then JH will sit on the bench - next to Conor Gallagher, and neither of them will need to take off their tracksuits. With power like that it means that JWP will follow MLT into the record books as " an occasional player " who never quite made it for England. Perhaps ...it may change ....If Prowsey gets another goal / assist at the weekend and West Ham are in the top four. Otherwise - no chance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 1 minute ago, david in sweden said: trousers ... I agree 100% , but you have undoubtedly forgotten about the absolute power of the media. If the Sky and BBC pundits don't fancy him, then he has no chance of getting into the England team. Jesus wept. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 (edited) On 27/08/2023 at 15:31, Ex Lion Tamer said: I like JWP, don't get me wrong, but that golf celebration is lame and embarrassing IMO perhaps he should modestly stand there and wait for his team mates to come and clap him on the back ...and say " well done Sir ".....or ? Edited 31 August, 2023 by david in sweden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 I appreciate that Kalvin Phillips had a good Euros, 2 flaming years ago, but the guy doesn't play football anymore so he shouldn't be getting international honours in front of people who are getting game time. Granted, we don't have many midfield options - but you'd think JWP, as he's playing and Phillips isn't, should be in there. The inclusion of Maguire is equally as pointless ahead of someone like Ben White. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thereisonlyonemickychannon Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 On 31/08/2023 at 14:30, trousers said: I don't understand why JWP isn't ahead of Henderson and Phillips as things stand. Why does 'Pep' always seem to get the best out of players?????? Phillips???? Useless turd that is getting a place in the England squad!!! Perhaps he has become a master at making tea! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 Another assist from a corner for JWP last night. But his corners are terrible, or something. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barsiem Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 2 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: Another assist from a corner for JWP last night. But his corners are terrible, or something. His corners for us were continually ineffective. I don't think that can really be disputed. How much of that was due to him and how much due to our crap set-up can be debated. Given who West Ham have in their team it's not really surprising he's having better fortunes there (albeit 3 games is a bit early to making any conclusios). Personally I'm pleased it's going so well for him so far. We rarely played to his strengths, which given our lack to quality is nuts 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 6 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: Another assist from a corner for JWP last night. But his corners are terrible, or something. We just didn't have the players to make the most of them, that much is becoming incredibly obvious. West ham are a big strong side, I won't look forward to our defence facing them and jwp when/if we're back in the prem. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 Just now, Barsiem said: His corners for us were continually ineffective. I don't think that can really be disputed. How much of that was due to him and how much due to our crap set-up can be debated. Given who West Ham have in their team it's not really surprising he's having better fortunes there (albeit 3 games is a bit early to making any conclusios). Personally I'm pleased it's going so well for him so far. We rarely played to his strengths, which given our lack to quality is nuts It's undeniably because West Ham have players more suited to attacking set pieces than we have since Van Dijk left. That's hardly JWP fault - what else is he supposed to do but take the best corner he can and hope somebody in the middle is good enough to get on the end of it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 2 September, 2023 Share Posted 2 September, 2023 4 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: It's undeniably because West Ham have players more suited to attacking set pieces than we have since Van Dijk left. That's hardly JWP fault - what else is he supposed to do but take the best corner he can and hope somebody in the middle is good enough to get on the end of it? Exactly. We were just shit at being aggressive enough to attack the balls coming into the box. That happened in an attacking and defending sense as well. Hopefully that is something we will address this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted 3 September, 2023 Share Posted 3 September, 2023 Only Motd but hardly saw JWP in the match apart from taking a corner or getting hit on the arm by the ball. When I saw him against his teammates he looked tiny ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 3 September, 2023 Share Posted 3 September, 2023 (edited) Karen Brady on the radio this morning talking all things West Ham. Stated that JwP was the No.1 target very early for their manager, and Moyes is the one who identifies players with his team and scouts and then the discussions start. She also suggested that Saints wanted A LOT for JwP and it was Saints who contacted West Ham and made the deal (by lowering their demands upfront and overall). On the flip side, Semmens on the radio the other night stated that with Ralph, the manager did NOT have the final say on transfers as he was just part of the committee....which I found strange. Edited 3 September, 2023 by AlexLaw76 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 4 September, 2023 Share Posted 4 September, 2023 Currently joint top for assists so far as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 4 September, 2023 Share Posted 4 September, 2023 We let him go too cheap. Was said at the time and it's becoming more obvious with every passing game. I just hope he gets his England place, but I think that needs a Southgate sacking (which should have happened after the Croatia wc semi anyway). 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sussex_saint Posted 4 September, 2023 Share Posted 4 September, 2023 (edited) The fact that players like Henderson, Maguire and Philips get picked but Ward Prowse doesn’t is unbelievable. Southgate’s team selections are shit Edited 4 September, 2023 by Sussex_saint 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 4 September, 2023 Share Posted 4 September, 2023 3 minutes ago, Sussex_saint said: The fact that players like Henderson and Philips get picked but Ward Prowse doesn’t is unbelievable. Southgate’s team selections are shit Southgate all over isn't it. Safe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 4 September, 2023 Share Posted 4 September, 2023 He basically picks anyone whose given him a reach around. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted 4 September, 2023 Share Posted 4 September, 2023 Southgate has his favourites. He ignored Danny Ings when he was scoring 20 plus goals in an average team and he again chooses to ignore JWP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint Posted 4 September, 2023 Share Posted 4 September, 2023 3 hours ago, Saint86 said: We let him go too cheap. Was said at the time and it's becoming more obvious with every passing game. I just hope he gets his England place, but I think that needs a Southgate sacking (which should have happened after the Croatia wc semi anyway). Heard him referred to as the "Bargain of the Transfer Window" and while there's that nagging feeling we let him go too cheap, Downes coming to us was probably also part of the deal. Bit like Maddison also looking good at Spurs. Play with players who can putt away your passes/crosses/corners and you look a whole lot better. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 4 September, 2023 Share Posted 4 September, 2023 1 hour ago, Convict Colony said: He basically picks anyone whose given him a reach around. False, otherwise I'd have been picked by now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 4 September, 2023 Share Posted 4 September, 2023 4 hours ago, Saint86 said: We let him go too cheap. Was said at the time and it's becoming more obvious with every passing game. I just hope he gets his England place, but I think that needs a Southgate sacking (which should have happened after the Croatia wc semi anyway). We got to a Euros final after that..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 6 September, 2023 Share Posted 6 September, 2023 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyboy Posted 16 September, 2023 Share Posted 16 September, 2023 Just scored against city , sorely missed by me 😔 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeBizzier69 Posted 16 September, 2023 Share Posted 16 September, 2023 The new media love-in for him frankly gets right on my tits. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 16 September, 2023 Share Posted 16 September, 2023 3 minutes ago, johnnyboy said: Just scored against city , sorely missed by me 😔 Yep. He's brilliant when he has a manager that knows proper tactics. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 16 September, 2023 Share Posted 16 September, 2023 9 minutes ago, LeBizzier69 said: The new media love-in for him frankly gets right on my tits. It's not the new, though is it? He's been a media darling for half a decade. Every time we won a free kick commentators would go into raptures, and the media have massively over egged his contribution from corners for ever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 16 September, 2023 Share Posted 16 September, 2023 16 minutes ago, LeBizzier69 said: The new media love-in for him frankly gets right on my tits. Wtf? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 16 September, 2023 Share Posted 16 September, 2023 (edited) £27M. 3 years left, club captain, best player, plays every minute of every game for basically 3 seasons consecutively (bar that Chelsea red)... Such bad business by us. Edited 16 September, 2023 by Saint86 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OttawaSaint Posted 16 September, 2023 Share Posted 16 September, 2023 12 minutes ago, Saint86 said: £27M. 3 years left, club captain, best player, plays every minute of every game for basically 3 seasons consecutively (bar that Chelsea red)... Such bad business by us. Then when you factor in that we paid £22M for Kamel, £18M for Paul, £20M for Carillo. Mugged! Well done SR! 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 16 September, 2023 Share Posted 16 September, 2023 Son in law, academy poster boy something something, only passes sideways and backwards etc. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Bates Statue Posted 16 September, 2023 Share Posted 16 September, 2023 Are we still happy we got relegated, getting rid of dross like JWP and not getting thrashed by Champions League sides every week? 2 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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