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1 minute ago, rooney said:

Do not know what to say ,so depressed at that performance.

If we'd given everything on the page and were just outfought and outclassed it would be one thing but we just rolled over and politely surrendered not even an ounce of bottle or grit! 

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Who should shoulder most of the blame? The Board for not supporting Ralph with an Ings replacement (or two)? The Board for making a monumentally poor decision in hiring Jones? The Board for bringing in players no better than the dross we’d already accumulated? The Board for insisting on the club maintaining a style of play that is not suited to the quality level in the squad? Selles for following some kind of blueprint that clearly is not working? The players for not being skilled enough to follow the Managers instructions (or are they just not fit or skilled enough - they’re maxed out)?

Answer is it’s all those things and why it’s irretrievable now.  It’s why we’re on another downwards spiral. L1 derby’s anyone?

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1 minute ago, Mr X said:

If we'd given everything on the page and were just outfought and outclassed it would be one thing but we just rolled over and politely surrendered not even an ounce of bottle or grit! 

The really sad thing is that first half it was there for the taking.

2nd half was just predictable.

 

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3 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Who should shoulder most of the blame? The Board for not supporting Ralph with an Ings replacement (or two)? The Board for making a monumentally poor decision in hiring Jones? The Board for bringing in players no better than the dross we’d already accumulated? The Board for insisting on the club maintaining a style of play that is not suited to the quality level in the squad? Selles for following some kind of blueprint that clearly is not working? The players for not being skilled enough to follow the Managers instructions (or are they just not fit or skilled enough - they’re maxed out)?

Answer is it’s all those things and why it’s irretrievable now.  It’s why we’re on another downwards spiral. L1 derby’s anyone?

Striker was our undoing, i understand to risk getting Ramos but we needed another guy we were also courting and could get straight after.

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Just now, Baird of the land said:

The really sad thing is that first half it was there for the taking.

2nd half was just predictable.

 

It was a Woy master class' He did the same at Leeds last week. A totally predictable second half.

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Perraud is a better left back than Maitland-Niles is a right back. So by sticking KWP at left back, we are diminishing our right sided defence and right sided attack in one hit. KWP can’t cross from the left so it’s screwing our left sided attack too. This seems blindingly obvious to me so I must be missing something.

ABK, KWP, JWP, Lavia & Tino would stay as first team if it was down to me. Alcaraz at a push. The rest simply aren’t good enough to get us promoted next season.

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Just seen a jockey coming out for the Grand National in red and white stripes. Previous years in might have thought that’s an omen for a flutter.

This year, no chance of him winning but I can’t wait to see if he either falls off or the horse runs in the wrong direction.

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19 minutes ago, OttawaSaint said:

Incredible isn't it that we put our EPL life on the line with Bazunu.

Literally the first thing a keeper is taught is not to palm it straight out in front. 

Yet here we are. 

I’m not saying McCarthy is the answer, but he is experienced, and was our player of the season a few years ago. I’ve got no doubt whatsoever that he could be doing a better job than Bazunu. As could Caballero for that matter. Are the team selections and formations being dictated by the board? It just doesn’t add up any more.

I hate this team so much. I’ve never felt such disconnect and disdain towards players wearing the red and white. There are literally so many what the fuck questions about every single player in the side. 

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7 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

Who should shoulder most of the blame? The Board for not supporting Ralph with an Ings replacement (or two)? The Board for making a monumentally poor decision in hiring Jones? The Board for bringing in players no better than the dross we’d already accumulated? The Board for insisting on the club maintaining a style of play that is not suited to the quality level in the squad? Selles for following some kind of blueprint that clearly is not working? The players for not being skilled enough to follow the Managers instructions (or are they just not fit or skilled enough - they’re maxed out)?

Answer is it’s all those things and why it’s irretrievable now.  It’s why we’re on another downwards spiral. L1 derby’s anyone?

Board over last couple of years, and Rasmus over the last year 

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3 minutes ago, Zorba said:

Perraud is a better left back than Maitland-Niles is a right back. So by sticking KWP at left back, we are diminishing our right sided defence and right sided attack in one hit. 

Blindingly obvious to all but the clever fuckers at the club.

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When alls said and done when you take away not signing a proven striker sacking Ralph appointing someone much worse... Not learning from that near miss and appointing a nice guy yes man that's also totally out of his Depth the real problem here is Sports Republic it all went downhill the second they arrived and they will be no better in the championship! 

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I'm numb to it all now, it's been 5 years of turbo shit bar the odd non-descript purple patch.

A fully deserved relegation and it should be confirmed in a few weeks, saves all the tension of the last games anyway. I'd be tempted to stick Ballard in there now, maybe even a couple of the other U21's - it's about next year now, as it has been for weeks really.

I haven't disliked a bunch of players as much as I dislike this lot. Even JWP, for all his efforts with free kicks and such, has been a consistent loser with us since he's been a regular.

It's at the stage now where we need a clean break with at least 80% of this lot, and the recruitment department as well - who have stolen a living for a number of years.

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3 minutes ago, Badger said:

Just seen a jockey coming out for the Grand National in red and white stripes. Previous years in might have thought that’s an omen for a flutter.

This year, no chance of him winning but I can’t wait to see if he either falls off or the horse runs in the wrong direction.

His bosses would probably try to get clever and send him out on a zebra...

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Think the Selles appointment is as bad as the Jones one.

Absolutely no evidence that he could do the job. 

And basically feels like we've got the work experience kid in charge and he's up against managers with 30 yrs experience.

Don't think we'll get another point this season.

 

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No intensity, no urgency, no quality. The story of the season really. Keep the ball at the back, lose the ball, let the opposition break on us.

We played like an end of season mid-table dead rubber match today. Only we’re bottom of the league, have been since Boxing Day and should be fighting for our lives. 

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12 minutes ago, Zorba said:

Perraud is a better left back than Maitland-Niles is a right back. So by sticking KWP at left back, we are diminishing our right sided defence and right sided attack in one hit. KWP can’t cross from the left so it’s screwing our left sided attack too. This seems blindingly obvious to me so I must be missing something.

ABK, KWP, JWP, Lavia & Tino would stay as first team if it was down to me. Alcaraz at a push. The rest simply aren’t good enough to get us promoted next season.

Sure I think we'd all agree... the sad fact is those are the players we won't have and our team will be made up of the rest of the chaff,  and signings will likely be a CB whose knees have gone, a midfielder journeyman and a few youngsters from Man City's academy.

 

We're in a state. Our next managerial appointment is a whopper.

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Baird of the land

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1 minute ago, bennyev said:

Think the Selles appointment is as bad as the Jones one.

Absolutely no evidence that he could do the job. 

And basically feels like we've got the work experience kid in charge and he's up against managers with 30 yrs experience.

Don't think we'll get another point this season.

 

With exception of the Chelsea result and 15 minutes against Spurs, the performances have been pretty dire.

Fluking a win against Leicester and United having a man sent off has just made it seem like we were going to make a fight of it.

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3 minutes ago, bennyev said:

Think the Selles appointment is as bad as the Jones one.

Absolutely no evidence that he could do the job. 

And basically feels like we've got the work experience kid in charge and he's up against managers with 30 yrs experience.

Don't think we'll get another point this season.

 

I think it's worse. They literally had one job. To get in someone who'd cast a fresh eye on our rabble, whip them into shape and figure out a lineup, tactics and formation.

Instead we went for he guy with the imagination of a rock.

Reminds me of this dipshit I once taught. After telling the class there were 2 versions of the test to prevent cheating in the small classroom we are in he fucking copied word for word from the kid text to him. 

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3 minutes ago, davefizzy14 said:

The really frustrating thing is, they were there for the taking in the first half but we didn't capitalise on it. Some of the substitutions should have been made at half time. Once again we waited until we went behind. 

Mate we would of needed to score 3 or 4 in first half to defeated them we can't even score 1 😩😩

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1 minute ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Good chance we will be replaced in the league by Luton fuckin Town. How depressing 

Just like 1974 , as it goes.
 

if the next 4 years are similar to the ones that followed the 1974 relegation, I’d be happy enough !!
 

 

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3 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said:

We need a reset. Relegation is the only way, in the long term we will be better off without most of these players who have a loser mentality.

We do, but I think this club are deluded given the contract offers we've made to Theo, Moussa etc over the years. We seem to think these guys are decent. We don't have any balls about us, we're 'nice'. Don't need any of that shit this summer, rip contracts up, throw these guys to the job centre, don't give a shit - but we need ruthlessness, otherwise we will never see PL again in many of our lifetimes.

I don't give a shit if they're nice guys or not, the bottom line is that as footballers they are horrific and should not be near professional teams.

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8 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

I'm numb to it all now, it's been 5 years of turbo shit bar the odd non-descript purple patch.

A fully deserved relegation and it should be confirmed in a few weeks, saves all the tension of the last games anyway. I'd be tempted to stick Ballard in there now, maybe even a couple of the other U21's - it's about next year now, as it has been for weeks really.

I haven't disliked a bunch of players as much as I dislike this lot. Even JWP, for all his efforts with free kicks and such, has been a consistent loser with us since he's been a regular.

It's at the stage now where we need a clean break with at least 80% of this lot, and the recruitment department as well - who have stolen a living for a number of years.

Cannot disagree with any of that, but the bit that rings true most is JWP. Midfield General or playmaker extraordinaire are not descriptions that spring to mind. What is he and what is his roll? Oh that’s it, he’s the Worlds best free kick taker, (but misses vital penalties). Luxury player and one we can’t afford in the Championship, so let’s hope we get good money.

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Just now, Saint Fan CaM said:

Cannot disagree with any of that, but the bit that rings true most is JWP. Midfield General or playmaker extraordinaire are not descriptions that spring to mind. What is he and what is his roll? Oh that’s it, he’s the Worlds best free kick taker, (but misses vital penalties). Luxury player and one we can’t afford in the Championship, so let’s hope we get good money.

I think he's given his all, he's always 100% and covering every blade of grass - but he is limited and that's why taking away Romeu has exposed him so much physically. 

There is something wrong with his makeup though, given that he's still here with our record of selling anyone who breathes probably tells you other clubs think the same. 

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42 minutes ago, stknowle said:

There ya go.

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Thank you StKnowles, I really needed that laugh!

Sadly called this game exactly right with the exception of Palace not scoring a third (which Ayew should have had)...soooo predictable. Should be no doubting that a) we are down b) Selles is clueless (I mean what's the point of having six or seven corners in the first half with no target man to aim for and then bringing him on late and not giving him a single cross!) c) we, the supporters, have been victims of monumental mis-management by SR, read Ankersen, in appointing mad Nate - a huge, unnecessary risk and then making a no-decision appointment of Selles.

We are so bad we are first down and so the easy target to rape what talent we have first. Agents no doubt have already presented their jump-ship plans for their players. Commentator made an interesting comment at the beginning of the game - Saints have the youngest team, if they could get out of the situation and preserve their PL status, they could really do things. Unfortunately we won't be given the chance. I really fear for us in the Championship.

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Expected us to lose and expected us to fail to score. Just a total mess of a club, god knows where we will be in the table this time next year. I pray that if we win one more game [ unlikely, I know ], it is against Bompey, it is bad enough they are staying up, even if deservedly  they have fight and team spirit, something our fragile players have failed to show all season.

Totally pissed off and dejected at what our club has become, thanks to the jokers at the helm, Ankersen and Semmens.

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31 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

I'm numb to it all now, it's been 5 years of turbo shit bar the odd non-descript purple patch.

A fully deserved relegation and it should be confirmed in a few weeks, saves all the tension of the last games anyway. I'd be tempted to stick Ballard in there now, maybe even a couple of the other U21's - it's about next year now, as it has been for weeks really.

I haven't disliked a bunch of players as much as I dislike this lot. Even JWP, for all his efforts with free kicks and such, has been a consistent loser with us since he's been a regular.

It's at the stage now where we need a clean break with at least 80% of this lot, and the recruitment department as well - who have stolen a living for a number of years.

Agree fully with all this. What worries me is they will look to keep a lot of these fuckers. "Moi will be superb in the champs" "Walcott will be great in the dressing room" "Bednarek will come good" you get the idea

Even if that's not the case, who would actually want to buy any of these pieces of crap apart from maybe Ward Prowse and Lavia?

Bad times indeed..I rate it worse than the Saggy relegation - at least the team had a fight in it

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