Summer Transfer Window 2023

[John B]

7 hours ago, MarkSFC said:

These references to Liverpools supposed interest in Lavia are exactly what they do. They the club or the fans or the media but probably all three have a very high level of arrogance about the Club. If they are selling then the value must be high (because they are a Liverpool player). If the club is buying then the value (promoted in media) will be whatever Liverpool want it to be because the player must be privileged to be wanted by Liverpool and the selling club must feel like Liverpool are doing them a favour. 

This attitude is worst at Liverpool and seems to have gotten worse during Klopps time there. Horrible club and fans. 

I think their attitude is based on Liverpool being one of the two top English teams of the last 60 years 

First Division/Premier League 1963–64, 1965–66, 1972–73, 1975–76, 1976–77, 1978–79, 1979–80, 1981–82, 1982–83, 1983–84, 1985–86, 1987–88, 1989–90, 2019–20

Second Division 1961–62

FA Cup 1964–65, 1973–74, 1985–86, 1988–89, 1991–92, 2000–01, 2005–06, 2021–22

Football League Cup/EFL Cup 1980–81, 1981–82, 1982–83, 1983–84, 1994–95, 2000–01, 2002–03, 2011–12, 2021–22

FA Charity Shield/FA Community Shield 1964*, 1965*, 1966, 1974, 1976, 1977*, 1979, 1980, 1982, 1986*, 1988, 1989, 1990*, 2001, 2006, 2022 (* shared)

Football League Super Cup 1985-86

ContinentalEuropean Cup/UEFA Champions League 1976–77, 1977–78, 1980–81, 1983–84, 2004–05, 2018–19

UEFA Cup/UEFA Europa League 1972–73, 1975–76, 2000–01

UEFA Super Cup 1977, 2001, 2005, 2019

WorldwideFIFA Club World Cup12019

 

[coalman]

14 minutes ago, John B said:

I think their attitude is based on Liverpool being one of the two top English teams of the last 60 years 

First Division/Premier League 1963–64, 1965–66, 1972–73, 1975–76, 1976–77, 1978–79, 1979–80, 1981–82, 1982–83, 1983–84, 1985–86, 1987–88, 1989–90, 2019–20

Second Division 1961–62

FA Cup 1964–65, 1973–74, 1985–86, 1988–89, 1991–92, 2000–01, 2005–06, 2021–22

Football League Cup/EFL Cup 1980–81, 1981–82, 1982–83, 1983–84, 1994–95, 2000–01, 2002–03, 2011–12, 2021–22

FA Charity Shield/FA Community Shield 1964*, 1965*, 1966, 1974, 1976, 1977*, 1979, 1980, 1982, 1986*, 1988, 1989, 1990*, 2001, 2006, 2022 (* shared)

Football League Super Cup 1985-86

ContinentalEuropean Cup/UEFA Champions League 1976–77, 1977–78, 1980–81, 1983–84, 2004–05, 2018–19

UEFA Cup/UEFA Europa League 1972–73, 1975–76, 2000–01

UEFA Super Cup 1977, 2001, 2005, 2019

WorldwideFIFA Club World Cup12019

 

Are you supporting the right team?

[Saint Matty 76]

[Toussaint]

26 minutes ago, John B said:

I think their attitude is based on Liverpool being one of the two top English teams of the last 60 years 

First Division/Premier League 1963–64, 1965–66, 1972–73, 1975–76, 1976–77, 1978–79, 1979–80, 1981–82, 1982–83, 1983–84, 1985–86, 1987–88, 1989–90, 2019–20

Second Division 1961–62

FA Cup 1964–65, 1973–74, 1985–86, 1988–89, 1991–92, 2000–01, 2005–06, 2021–22

Football League Cup/EFL Cup 1980–81, 1981–82, 1982–83, 1983–84, 1994–95, 2000–01, 2002–03, 2011–12, 2021–22

FA Charity Shield/FA Community Shield 1964*, 1965*, 1966, 1974, 1976, 1977*, 1979, 1980, 1982, 1986*, 1988, 1989, 1990*, 2001, 2006, 2022 (* shared)

Football League Super Cup 1985-86

ContinentalEuropean Cup/UEFA Champions League 1976–77, 1977–78, 1980–81, 1983–84, 2004–05, 2018–19

UEFA Cup/UEFA Europa League 1972–73, 1975–76, 2000–01

UEFA Super Cup 1977, 2001, 2005, 2019

WorldwideFIFA Club World Cup12019

 

Phhtt ! didn't see JPT anywhere in that list!

[FarehamSaintJames]

43 minutes ago, Chez said:

Let me make a note of that. July 23rd. Transfers don't happen after this date. In the memory bank for future reference.    

 

Literally not what I said but you take that in the context you want 😂

[Badger]

38 minutes ago, John B said:

I think their attitude is based on Liverpool being one of the two top English teams of the last 60 years 

First Division/Premier League 1963–64, 1965–66, 1972–73, 1975–76, 1976–77, 1978–79, 1979–80, 1981–82, 1982–83, 1983–84, 1985–86, 1987–88, 1989–90, 2019–20

Second Division 1961–62

FA Cup 1964–65, 1973–74, 1985–86, 1988–89, 1991–92, 2000–01, 2005–06, 2021–22

Football League Cup/EFL Cup 1980–81, 1981–82, 1982–83, 1983–84, 1994–95, 2000–01, 2002–03, 2011–12, 2021–22

FA Charity Shield/FA Community Shield 1964*, 1965*, 1966, 1974, 1976, 1977*, 1979, 1980, 1982, 1986*, 1988, 1989, 1990*, 2001, 2006, 2022 (* shared)

Football League Super Cup 1985-86

ContinentalEuropean Cup/UEFA Champions League 1976–77, 1977–78, 1980–81, 1983–84, 2004–05, 2018–19

UEFA Cup/UEFA Europa League 1972–73, 1975–76, 2000–01

UEFA Super Cup 1977, 2001, 2005, 2019

WorldwideFIFA Club World Cup12019

 

Yes, but fuck off.

What did the Romans do for us ? 

[Badger]

1 hour ago, Victor said:

Useless.   I'd go for Terry Hurlock.

Underneath it all, he was a pussy (not that I’d want to tell him).

Brian O’Neil would be my choice. 

[saintant]

1 hour ago, Farmer Saint said:

Sounds like Wanyama. 

Wanyama could play a bit - not convinced this guy can.

[Toadhall Saint]

57 minutes ago, John B said:

I think their attitude is based on Liverpool being one of the two top English teams of the last 60 years 

First Division/Premier League 1963–64, 1965–66, 1972–73, 1975–76, 1976–77, 1978–79, 1979–80, 1981–82, 1982–83, 1983–84, 1985–86, 1987–88, 1989–90, 2019–20

Second Division 1961–62

FA Cup 1964–65, 1973–74, 1985–86, 1988–89, 1991–92, 2000–01, 2005–06, 2021–22

Football League Cup/EFL Cup 1980–81, 1981–82, 1982–83, 1983–84, 1994–95, 2000–01, 2002–03, 2011–12, 2021–22

FA Charity Shield/FA Community Shield 1964*, 1965*, 1966, 1974, 1976, 1977*, 1979, 1980, 1982, 1986*, 1988, 1989, 1990*, 2001, 2006, 2022 (* shared)

Football League Super Cup 1985-86

ContinentalEuropean Cup/UEFA Champions League 1976–77, 1977–78, 1980–81, 1983–84, 2004–05, 2018–19

UEFA Cup/UEFA Europa League 1972–73, 1975–76, 2000–01

UEFA Super Cup 1977, 2001, 2005, 2019

WorldwideFIFA Club World Cup12019

 

Should we pay them to take him then? 

[Smirking_Saint]

2 hours ago, VectisSaint said:

Did I imagine Diallo going?

I think he was going anyway, Charles is looking like the replacement for Lavia/JWP

But you knew that.. probably 

[notnowcato]

1 hour ago, John B said:

I think their attitude is based on Liverpool being one of the two top English teams of the last 60 years 

First Division/Premier League 1963–64, 1965–66, 1972–73, 1975–76, 1976–77, 1978–79, 1979–80, 1981–82, 1982–83, 1983–84, 1985–86, 1987–88, 1989–90, 2019–20

Second Division 1961–62

FA Cup 1964–65, 1973–74, 1985–86, 1988–89, 1991–92, 2000–01, 2005–06, 2021–22

Football League Cup/EFL Cup 1980–81, 1981–82, 1982–83, 1983–84, 1994–95, 2000–01, 2002–03, 2011–12, 2021–22

FA Charity Shield/FA Community Shield 1964*, 1965*, 1966, 1974, 1976, 1977*, 1979, 1980, 1982, 1986*, 1988, 1989, 1990*, 2001, 2006, 2022 (* shared)

Football League Super Cup 1985-86

ContinentalEuropean Cup/UEFA Champions League 1976–77, 1977–78, 1980–81, 1983–84, 2004–05, 2018–19

UEFA Cup/UEFA Europa League 1972–73, 1975–76, 2000–01

UEFA Super Cup 1977, 2001, 2005, 2019

WorldwideFIFA Club World Cup12019

 

Most of that success is over 30 years ago. 
 

Undisputed top bin dippers, chip on shoulder carriers and chief ruiners of English football in the 80s. 
 

They can fuck off. 

[Golac's Cunning Stunts]

1 hour ago, John B said:

I think their attitude is based on Liverpool being one of the two top English teams of the last 60 years 

No it isn't. Their attitude goes beyond what their football team has won. It permeates their whole society, as can be seen the numerous times they have caused issues at grounds over the years (eg Heysel), but it is never their fault. They are always victims, always owed something by somebody

[Smirking_Saint]

1 hour ago, CSA96 said:

He was the top midfielder in the division for interceptions and interceptions per appearance (iirc) so I suspect that's where this is coming from...

Definitely a very combative midfielder who then keeps it simple and gives it to other people, which tbh, we might need based on the showing at Reading where people just managed to run through us at times.

In fairness we had Smallbone at No.6 for large swathes of that game, and as nice and tidy as he is on the ball he really isn’t suited as a DM

That said, if we play a backline THAT high then we’ll need more than just a decent DM there.. it was absolutely suicidal at times

[Saint Matty 76]

1 hour ago, Saint Matty 76 said:

...and just over an hour later.

I remember why I stopped paying attention to the Twitter X transfer market. I'll leave it to SuperSAINT.

[hypochondriac]

7 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said:

...and just over an hour later.

I remember why I stopped paying attention to the Twitter X transfer market. I'll leave it to SuperSAINT.

Not a surprise given personal terms were still to be agreed. I wouldn't want to deal with him either. 

[HarvSFC]

Fuck sake. £15m was a great deal for him given his contract. Would’ve been the 2023 Vestergaard and given us a bit more flexibility.

That’s Lyanco and Salisu. These centre-backs are cursed.

[Maggie May]

12 minutes ago, HarvSFC said:

Fuck sake. £15m was a great deal for him given his contract. Would’ve been the 2023 Vestergaard and given us a bit more flexibility.

That’s Lyanco and Salisu. These centre-backs are cursed.

Unfortunately the back line of a relegated team are going to be the hardest to shift.

[John B]

2 hours ago, Golac's Cunning Stunts said:

No it isn't. Their attitude goes beyond what their football team has won. It permeates their whole society, as can be seen the numerous times they have caused issues at grounds over the years (eg Heysel), but it is never their fault. They are always victims, always owed something by somebody

A load of old Pony a great city with great people

[Dusic]

Annoying to have Lyanco and Salisu deals collapse when both were seemingly decent for us.

Imagine we have CB targets but can't really justify signing any when we have 6 senior ones on the books and no real signing of getting rid of any.

Hopefully our targets continue to be patient...

[coalman]

1 hour ago, HarvSFC said:

Fuck sake. £15m was a great deal for him given his contract. Would’ve been the 2023 Vestergaard and given us a bit more flexibility.

That’s Lyanco and Salisu. These centre-backs are cursed.

Given the number of goals we conceded from crosses last season I think cursed is an understatement.

[Golac's Cunning Stunts]

4 minutes ago, John B said:

A load of old Pony a great city with great people

not in my experience.

[Harry_SFC]

3 hours ago, Smirking_Saint said:

In fairness we had Smallbone at No.6 for large swathes of that game, and as nice and tidy as he is on the ball he really isn’t suited as a DM

That said, if we play a backline THAT high then we’ll need more than just a decent DM there.. it was absolutely suicidal at times

Bednarek and Stephens are two of the worst CBs I can think of in terms of being able to play in a high line. Both seem ok when defending deep, but stick them in a high line and you're asking for trouble. 

Edited 24 July, 2023 by Harry_SFC

[qwertyell]

3 hours ago, Saint Matty 76 said:

...and just over an hour later.

I remember why I stopped paying attention to the Twitter X transfer market. I'll leave it to SuperSAINT.

I did think it was a weird link, as Fulham are supposedly looking for a ball playing centre back. Which, with all due respect, I'm not sure anyone would describe Salisu as even on his best day.

[Sunglasses Ron]

2 hours ago, HarvSFC said:

That’s Lyanco and Salisu. These centre-backs are cursed.

Surely we can mug one of those Saudi clubs off for them?

”Hello is that Al-Hilal? It’s, err, Thierry Henry here. My two cousins are both amazing and looking for a club…”

[CheshireSaint]

1 hour ago, John B said:

A load of old Pony a great city with great people

Being brought up on a Liverpool overspill council estate, 20 miles from Liverpool and with a Liverpool born father, I think I am likely in a better position than most to have a view. They are generally shithouses who present 90% of all the stereotypes we associate with them. My dad was there for 2 days before being brought up in Southampton (his mum was Liverpool through and through) and he thinks less of them than me. Obviously a lot depends on personal experience and some are really decent but generally speaking, they are bell ends. 

 

[Saint Keef]

I was in Liverpool recently. My first time there. I went into a pub and there was a pub quiz just starting. I wasn't that bothered but joined in anyway, just for something to do really. There were 40 questions in total. For a laugh, I answered all 40 questions alternately, with "The Beatles" and "Stevie Gerrard".

Answer 1 - The Beatles

Answer 2 - Stevie Gerrard

Answer 3 - The Beatles

Answer 4 - Stevie Gerrard...........and so on for all 40 questions..................

I came second!!!! 

BOOM BOOM. 

[DT]

12 hours ago, Turkish said:

really? I saw him play a lot of Rangers in Europe and thought he was excellent. 

I think we should buy Bassey. He could live in Shirley. 

[skintsaint]

1 minute ago, DT said:

I think we should buy Bassey. He could live in Shirley. 

Would be a large fee. Means we would be a Big Spender.

[spyinthesky]

45 minutes ago, CheshireSaint said:

Being brought up on a Liverpool overspill council estate, 20 miles from Liverpool and with a Liverpool born father, I think I am likely in a better position than most to have a view. They are generally shithouses who present 90% of all the stereotypes we associate with them. My dad was there for 2 days before being brought up in Southampton (his mum was Liverpool through and through) and he thinks less of them than me. Obviously a lot depends on personal experience and some are really decent but generally speaking, they are bell ends. 

 

I have family in Liverpool and have visited the city for many years.
It took quite a while for improvements to be put in place post the destruction after WW2 and then the Toxteth riots.
UK and EU money worth between £1 billion and £2 billion plus some money put into developments financed by shady drug money from the city gangsters and Irish speculators has seen vast improvements in the city centre but not so much in the suburbs.
I would say that 50% of the population are funny, decent people with good hearts.
20% are OK whilst 30% are quite a nasty bunch with criminal backgrounds.
The city centre is full of imposing buildings, well worth a visit.
Some of the outer areas are a bit like Beirut.
All in all though I have always enjoyed my visits but have a fair idea of places to avoid.

[SuperSAINT]

 

[Dan Johnson]

14 minutes ago, skintsaint said:

Would be a large fee. Means we would be a Big Spender.

I hope he performs, we’ve spent a big fee before and they’ve not performed, if that happens it will be like history repeating…

[skintsaint]

5 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said:

 

Player who would do well under Poch. Surprised if they sold him.

[Tamesaint]

1 hour ago, Saint Keef said:

I was in Liverpool recently. My first time there. I went into a pub and there was a pub quiz just starting. I wasn't that bothered but joined in anyway, just for something to do really. There were 40 questions in total. For a laugh, I answered all 40 questions alternately, with "The Beatles" and "Stevie Gerrard".

Answer 1 - The Beatles

Answer 2 - Stevie Gerrard

Answer 3 - The Beatles

Answer 4 - Stevie Gerrard...........and so on for all 40 questions..................

I came second!!!! 

BOOM BOOM. 

Would you have come first if you had done 

 

Answer 1. Stevie Gerrard

Answer 2 The Beatles etc etc

 

[Dan Johnson]

49 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said:

 

You have to wonder if anyone will come in for JWP.

I thought him moving to West Ham was pretty much nailed on with Rice moving. But it seems West Ham are being linked with younger players around the £40m mark.

I can’t see any top 8 side coming in for him…

Maybe he’ll stay 🤔

[egg]

4 minutes ago, Dan Johnson said:

You have to wonder if anyone will come in for JWP.

I thought him moving to West Ham was pretty much nailed on with Rice moving. But it seems West Ham are being linked with younger players around the £40m mark.

I can’t see any top 8 side coming in for him…

Maybe he’ll stay 🤔

I've questioned since the season end who'd want him and play him regularly. If it's not west ham, I really can't see where he'd go. Fulham perhaps, but would he really offer more than Harrison Reed apart from the free kicks? Where else? 

[Ivan Katalinic's 'tache]

West Ham bid for Prowsey's left leg...

[Dusic]

Opening bid so obviously just a starting point but expect it will happen. He is too good to waste a (tournament) year in the Championship and everyone glosses over the financials too from his perspective.

We have been relegated, we will need to sell some players and particularly our highest earners so sooner it happens the better (assuming a good offer ends up being made).

 

Edited 24 July, 2023 by Dusic

[woodsaint1]

2 minutes ago, Ivan Katalinic's 'tache said:

West Ham bid for Prowsey's left leg...

Give us Downes, Areola and a few pounds and we'll consider it

[SaintNewForest]

£25m is fucking comical. Must be a permanent April Fools in London. 

[skintsaint]

3 minutes ago, Ivan Katalinic's 'tache said:

West Ham bid for Prowsey's left leg...

Pays for his lovely fringe.

[Lighthouse]

So they want our captain, England international and one of the best free kick takers in the world for £10m less than they paid for Scamacca, or £5m less than Leicester paid for Daka. I needed a laugh today.

[Sussex_saint]

Surely he can't go for 25 - seems too low considering he has a good few seasons left in him and an unbelievable work rate inside of him. I really hope the club fight west ham to the last straw on a decent price - he deserves It more than any other departing players tbh. 

[HarvSFC]

3 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

So they want our captain, England international and one of the best free kick takers in the world for £10m less than they paid for Scamacca, or £5m less than Leicester paid for Daka. I needed a laugh today.

Same cost as Leeds spent on Dan James.

[CSA96]

The only way I'd even begin contemplating a £25m offer is if it had Flynn Downes coming the other way on a permanent basis. Otherwise it's an immediate no. I think if they get to £35m (assuming they do a straight up cash offer) I would consider that fair enough, if it were to be accepted.

[Saint Keef]

1 hour ago, Tamesaint said:

Would you have come first if you had done 

 

Answer 1. Stevie Gerrard

Answer 2 The Beatles etc etc

 

Damn! I never thought of that.  A cunning plan for next time. Cheers for your advice. 

[Saint Keef]

1 hour ago, Ivan Katalinic's 'tache said:

West Ham bid for Prowsey's left leg...

Ah, that'll be the same West Ham that just pulled Arsenal's pants down for £110m for Declan Rice. Yeah....Right!

Assuming JWP is only half as good as Rice (which I would dispute), I make that £55m.

[SaintsFan86]

 

 

 

[Luke SkyWalker-Peters]

I was content with JWP going and getting £30m+ for him. After seeing how RM used him in the Reading game as a true box-to-box I'm less inclined to let him go.

He is one of a few players we have that I trust to score goals when given the opportunity. It appears that RM will be giving him those opportunities in this system.

He has averaged 9 goals per year in the PL the last few seasons when playing much deeper in the double pivot. I could see him doubling those goal numbers playing this system in the Championship.

I'd be doing whatever we could to keep him. I didn't feel that way a month ago.

 

[skintsaint]

23 minutes ago, SaintsFan86 said:

 

 

 

Yeah the refs know about players contract and stuff like that.

[skintsaint]

Zaha to Galatasarararararay is a bit of a weird one for me.