Summer Transfer Window 2023

[Lighthouse]

I think the best way I can summarise Diallo is that we could have sold him, never mentioned it officially, and nobody would actually notice or care until about halfway through the season.

[Master Bates]

Bye bye byeee, Diaaalllo

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/23654759.southampton-midfielder-ibrahima-diallo-nearing-al-duhail-transfer/

[Turkish]

7 hours ago, Saint Garrett said:

Mental that. Not old and has basically given up with his football career already. There was a footballer in there but just couldn’t get it out consistently enough. Good luck to him, but what a disappointment in the end.

Hopefully we got some decent money for him given it’s Qatar

Makes me laugh that at the end of the season it was said he wants to leave as he doesn’t want to play in the championship so he’s going to play in Qatar. I’ve regularly forgotten he plays for us in his time here. He showed some decent potential early on but been a really poor signing. 

[Smirking_Saint]

7 hours ago, SaintsFan86 said:

 

I did hear he had said his goodbyes earlier this week.

I think ultimately he looks like a wasted talent, I thought he could potentially flourish into a decent PL DM but he never really improved (maybe even regressed since the purchase) 

Its a shame really but his move to Qatar shows where his motivation lies as a young player

Nice to see us starting to move on the deadwood 

Heard we’d likely lose the ‘french contingent’ from the end of last year, him, Perraud and Mara were all making noises about moving on, I’d imagine Perraud will be next out the door

[goodymatt]

 

[pimpin4rizeal]

6 hours ago, ecurnew02 said:

Woeful passer who would get eaten alive in a Russell Martin side. Some defensive talent there but not a loss by any means. Hopefully we got upwards of £5M. 

I didn’t mind him as much as a lot in here.probably due to the fact he had a a bit of a engine and could drive  and carry the ball up the pitch ..I do think that’s something we lacked a lot at times.. 

never really got going here but offered something a little differant as a squad player 

[Smirking_Saint]

7 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

I didn’t mind him as much as a lot in here.probably due to the fact he had a a bit of a engine and could drive  and carry the ball up the pitch ..I do think that’s something we lacked a lot at times.. 

never really got going here but offered something a little differant as a squad player 

Apart from the fact he was a woeful passer of the ball and frequently got dispossessed in possession you’re spot on 🙄

As a ball winner he wasn’t completely horrible, the issue was if anyone expected anything progressive from him at all

[Yorkshire Saint]

9 hours ago, Maggie May said:

AA wore 9 for England u21s.

..and a St James Park back ground ?

[LeBizzier69]

9 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said:

Apart from the fact he was a woeful passer of the ball and frequently got dispossessed in possession you’re spot on 🙄

As a ball winner he wasn’t completely horrible, the issue was if anyone expected anything progressive from him at all

He’s likely to pass the medical to the wrong team.

[pimpin4rizeal]

13 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said:

Apart from the fact he was a woeful passer of the ball and frequently got dispossessed in possession you’re spot on 🙄

As a ball winner he wasn’t completely horrible, the issue was if anyone expected anything progressive from him at all

Hehe funny how you crucify diallo’s passing but love che can’t finish for toffee adams .,

not saying diallo is great or anything but he could at least get us up the pitch with pace in a box to box way .. we didn’t really have anyone else with that attribute 

[lambtiss]

1 hour ago, Master Bates said:

Bye bye byeee, Diaaalllo

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/23654759.southampton-midfielder-ibrahima-diallo-nearing-al-duhail-transfer/

Personally, I'm very pleased that he is leaving. Occasionally, there seemed to be a player there, but generally he would leave me tearing my hair out as he passed the ball to the opposition or was robbed in possession. 

[Osvaldorama]

Shocking player. Glad he’s gone. 

Should have kept Harrison Reed and given him a chance instead of signing dross like Diallo and Clasie before that. 

[hypochondriac]

32 minutes ago, goodymatt said:

 

100 million in sales is easy 

Lavia 40 

ABK 25 

KWP 15 

Adams 15

Diallo 5 

Could add a few more defenders to that for small amounts and maybe someone like Sulemana or Tella of course. What it does show is that there's no obligation to sell jwp unless he wants to go. 

Edited 14 July, 2023 by hypochondriac

[Mr Saints]

Good news on Diallo. Would be pretty happy to see the rest of the French contingent follow him out the door tbh.

[lambtiss]

3 minutes ago, Mr Saints said:

Good news on Diallo. Would be pretty happy to see the rest of the French contingent follow him out the door tbh.

With the occasional exception Southampton, rarely seem to strike gold with players of "French" origin. They often seem to have talent and skills but equally often don't seem to have the heart or passion for the English leagues. Although, personally I do like Perraud

[Badger]

1 hour ago, Master Bates said:

Bye bye byeee, Diaaalllo

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/23654759.southampton-midfielder-ibrahima-diallo-nearing-al-duhail-transfer/

Say Diallo, wave goodbye ….

 

Edited 14 July, 2023 by Badger

[Badger]

See on the BBC Gossip that Sangarre (our first choice MF that year) being talked about at £35m. 
 

Players are totally different, like Maddison & Elyonoussi, how did we go from A to B with such a drop in standard ?

[Turkish]

4 minutes ago, Badger said:

See on the BBC Gossip that Sangarre (our first choice MF that year) being talked about at £35m. 
 

Players are totally different, like Maddison & Elyonoussi, how did we go from A to B with such a drop in standard ?

 

 

[AlexLaw76]

1 hour ago, Master Bates said:

Bye bye byeee, Diaaalllo

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/23654759.southampton-midfielder-ibrahima-diallo-nearing-al-duhail-transfer/

pretty awful signing for Saints.  And a good example of a strategy that has sent us down.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

4 minutes ago, Badger said:

See on the BBC Gossip that Sangarre (our first choice MF that year) being talked about at £35m. 
 

Players are totally different, like Maddison & Elyonoussi, how did we go from A to B with such a drop in standard ?

Because we wouldn't or couldn't pay the transfer fees for those sort of players. We were still shopping in the 10m to 15m bracket, when the teams we were competing against would be upping what they would pay by another 10m.

[hypochondriac]

10 minutes ago, lambtiss said:

With the occasional exception Southampton, rarely seem to strike gold with players of "French" origin. They often seem to have talent and skills but equally often don't seem to have the heart or passion for the English leagues. Although, personally I do like Perraud

Olivier Bernard. 

[CB Fry]

People are talking like Patrick Colleter never existed.

[Turkish]

Gregory Vignal might have something to say about this.

[Badger]

Just now, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Because we wouldn't or couldn't pay the transfer fees for those sort of players. We were still shopping in the 10m to 15m bracket, when the teams we were competing against would be upping what they would pay by another 10m.

That’s generally been the case but it doesn’t apply re the two I’ve mentioned.

As I recall we had agreed the fee with Norwich for Maddison (c£22m), Sangarre went to PSV for £8-10m depending on reports. 
 

As a further example of our misguided recruitment dept, Botman cost less than Salisu the same year. 

[wild-saint]

 

16 minutes ago, lambtiss said:

With the occasional exception Southampton, rarely seem to strike gold with players of "French" origin. They often seem to have talent and skills but equally often don't seem to have the heart or passion for the English leagues. Although, personally I do like Perraud

Le Saux 🙃

[AlexLaw76]

Vincent Pericard was a baller; he could 'cook'...

Interestingly, found this..I wonder what Harry saw in him after 1 appearance..something that looked like a brown envelope I bet

Quote

Despite only making one appearance for Juventus, he attracted the attention of Portsmouth manager Harry Redknapp.^[4]

 

[SaintsFan86]

11 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

Because we wouldn't or couldn't pay the transfer fees for those sort of players. We were still shopping in the 10m to 15m bracket, when the teams we were competing against would be upping what they would pay by another 10m.

It was nothing to do with price, Sangarre was cheaper we just couldn't sign him because of a work permit. Sadly.

[Chez]

Are we actually going to get money for Diallo? Even if it's just a couple of million that's a Result. What a disappointment he has been. 

[Harry_SFC]

The standout memory from Diallo's time here was when he came on for Lavia at Arsenal last season with 5 minutes to go. He got booked and we let in 2 goals in 3 minutes. 

[Smirking_Saint]

48 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

Hehe funny how you crucify diallo’s passing but love che can’t finish for toffee adams .,

not saying diallo is great or anything but he could at least get us up the pitch with pace in a box to box way .. we didn’t really have anyone else with that attribute 

Probably because Ive consistently said as poor as Che is at finishing off moves, he was pretty integral to how we played over the last two years, initiating the press, disrupting the back line and being a focal point in attack.. his touch, back to goal play and passing is very good… so were between a rock and a hard place… either we put up with his 50/50 finishing or our build up was non existent…. Im not expecting you to understand that intricacy though

Diallo just didn’t do what you suggested anyway, and effectively we employed a double pivot, so neither were expected to play a proper ‘box to box’ role, with the furthest we’d expect either to progress forward would probably be between halfway and the oppo box

[Lee On Solent Saint]

20 minutes ago, SaintsFan86 said:

It was nothing to do with price, Sangarre was cheaper we just couldn't sign him because of a work permit. Sadly.

It was just a general comment about how we conducted most of our transfer business over the past six or seven years. 

[notnowcato]

47 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

pretty awful signing for Saints.  And a good example of a strategy that has sent us down.

Er no, the strategy makes sense, the application of the strategy and the appointment of pish poor managers is what has us in the Championship.  See Brighton for how to apply the strategy correctly.  You're welcome.

[Wade Garrett]

20 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said:

Probably because Ive consistently said as poor as Che is at finishing off moves, he was pretty integral to how we played over the last two years, initiating the press, disrupting the back line and being a focal point in attack.. his touch, back to goal play and passing is very good… so were between a rock and a hard place… either we put up with his 50/50 finishing or our build up was non existent…. Im not expecting you to understand that intricacy though

Diallo just didn’t do what you suggested anyway, and effectively we employed a double pivot, so neither were expected to play a proper ‘box to box’ role, with the furthest we’d expect either to progress forward would probably be between halfway and the oppo box

Have you swallowed a coaching book?

’Initiating the press’ - I know that means he closes down the opposition when he’s near them.

’Double pivot?’ Pray tell what that fucking hipster term means.

[Paul Chuckle]

1 hour ago, lambtiss said:

With the occasional exception Southampton, rarely seem to strike gold with players of "French" origin. They often seem to have talent and skills but equally often don't seem to have the heart or passion for the English leagues. Although, personally I do like Perraud

Ermmmmmm

 

Erik Hassli and his 2 goals in 8 reserve appearances whilst on loan from Metz in 2002 might have something to say about this. 

 

Also what happened to that person on here who was obsessed with Leandre Griffit? They genuinely believed he would be the next Thiery Henry.

 

 

[Turkish]

1 minute ago, Paul Chuckle said:

Ermmmmmm

 

Erik Hassli and his 2 goals in 8 reserve appearances whilst on loan from Metz in 2002 might have something to say about this. 

 

Also what happened to that person on here who was obsessed with Leandre Griffit? They genuinely believed he would be the next Thiery Henry.

 

 

that view was (Yoann) Folly. 

[mitch01]

Be shocked if we didn't bring in quite a bit more than £100m on transfers. Lavia, ABK, JWP, KWP, Salisu, Onuachu all extremely likely to leave and would get us substantially beyond that by themselves. Then add even cut-price fees for players like Diallo, DCC, Lycano, Perraud, Aribo and we're approaching £150m I would say.

 

[Dusic]

7 minutes ago, mitch01 said:

Be shocked if we didn't bring in quite a bit more than £100m on transfers. Lavia, ABK, JWP, KWP, Salisu, Onuachu all extremely likely to leave and would get us substantially beyond that by themselves. Then add even cut-price fees for players like Diallo, DCC, Lycano, Perraud, Aribo and we're approaching £150m I would say.

 

Of those you describe we will get virtually nothing for Diallo and certainly if we sell Onuachu or DCC we will still end up paying out more in the installments we owe Genk and Marseille than what we would actually be getting from whoever buys them.

Lyanco and DCC will probably only generate loan offers as tbeir wages will be too high for anyone of their level to cover. Possibly the same even for Paul.

Salisu will generate possibly £10m.

The four key ones are Lavia, JWP, KWP and ABK who are all pretty much certain to go. Would expect those four would just about touch £90-£100m in total.

[Miltonaggro]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

 

 

The Bengal Lancer extraordinaire! 

[SuperSAINT]

Paul / DCC aren’t in Turkey, apparently.

[Sussex_saint]

does anyone know what payers are in Turkey? I saw the picture of JWP at the airport in a selfie but any other notable absentees/travellers?

 Never mind, just seen a list in the pre season thread!

Edited 14 July, 2023 by Sussex_saint

[SaintsFan86]

10 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said:

Paul / DCC aren’t in Turkey, apparently.

Be still my beating heart. 

[Harry_SFC]

6 minutes ago, Sussex_saint said:

does anyone know what payers are in Turkey? I saw the picture of JWP at the airport in a selfie but any other notable absentees/travellers?

 Never mind, just seen a list in the pre season thread!

Sulemena is there now. Still no sign of S.Armstrong though. 

[steve green]

4 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

Sulemena is there now. Still no sign of S.Armstrong though. 

Maintaining that on pitch presence then.

[Wurzel]

8 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

I think the best way I can summarise Diallo is that we could have sold him, never mentioned it officially, and nobody would actually notice or care until about halfway through the season.

One of those players no one would notice if he failed to attend his own birthday party.

[mitch01]

34 minutes ago, Dusic said:

Of those you describe we will get virtually nothing for Diallo and certainly if we sell Onuachu or DCC we will still end up paying out more in the installments we owe Genk and Marseille than what we would actually be getting from whoever buys them.

Lyanco and DCC will probably only generate loan offers as tbeir wages will be too high for anyone of their level to cover. Possibly the same even for Paul.

Salisu will generate possibly £10m.

The four key ones are Lavia, JWP, KWP and ABK who are all pretty much certain to go. Would expect those four would just about touch £90-£100m in total.

Interesting, could well be right. Completing our payments for Onuachu and DCC isn't really part of the equation though.

Lycano and DCC have been linked to permanent moves but I guess we wait and see how that plays out. You are right in the sense that we'll probably be paying some of their wages even if they leave permanently. I think we're looking at £45m for Lavia, £30m for JPW, £15m for KWP and £25m for ABK (some of which will go back to his old club). Add Salisu to that and I think it's around £125m.

Speaking conservatively I think we can hope to get around £2.5m for Diallo, £4m for DCC, £2m for Lycano, £4m for Perraud, £5m for Aribo, £8m for Paul. But also likely I suppose that we'll be left with some players we can't shift just as a result of the sheer numbers we need to get rid of.

 

 

 

[Saint86]

3 hours ago, goodymatt said:

 

its almost like these "journalists" read saints web and print it for money...

[hypochondriac]

2 hours ago, Dusic said:

Of those you describe we will get virtually nothing for Diallo and certainly if we sell Onuachu or DCC we will still end up paying out more in the installments we owe Genk and Marseille than what we would actually be getting from whoever buys them.

Lyanco and DCC will probably only generate loan offers as tbeir wages will be too high for anyone of their level to cover. Possibly the same even for Paul.

Salisu will generate possibly £10m.

The four key ones are Lavia, JWP, KWP and ABK who are all pretty much certain to go. Would expect those four would just about touch £90-£100m in total.

Not a chance are we going to sell those four and only receive 90 million. You also forgot about Tella. 

Edited 14 July, 2023 by hypochondriac

[egg]

2 hours ago, Dusic said:

Of those you describe we will get virtually nothing for Diallo and certainly if we sell Onuachu or DCC we will still end up paying out more in the installments we owe Genk and Marseille than what we would actually be getting from whoever buys them.

Lyanco and DCC will probably only generate loan offers as tbeir wages will be too high for anyone of their level to cover. Possibly the same even for Paul.

Salisu will generate possibly £10m.

The four key ones are Lavia, JWP, KWP and ABK who are all pretty much certain to go. Would expect those four would just about touch £90-£100m in total.

That's realistic imo. In reality it'll be less due to the City cut from the Lavia fee. 

[Convict Colony]

52 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

its almost like these "journalists" read saints web and print it for money...

If they do then please read this, your shit at your job and you are stealing a living.

 

[SaintJackoInHurworth]

16 hours ago, SaintsFan86 said:

 

Isn't it more likely that Ings still owns a house in Southampton and is now selling it? I saw mention that this mural is one of three - all of a player wearing an England shirt, but with different numbers - 9, 14 and 19 I think he said (though don't quote me on it). It was also commented by someone that those were Ings' England numbers.