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hypochondriac

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7 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

It may not, but when we were not seemingly prepared to spend more on a striker, yet sign Edozie and Larios....you have to wonder.

The Bazunu signing was just f-ing ridiculous

I don't think there's any evidence that we weren't prepared to spend more on a striker. In fact the evidence suggests the opposite. 

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Just now, hypochondriac said:

I don't think there's any evidence that we weren't prepared to spend more on a striker. In fact the evidence suggests the opposite. 

Well, we never signed one and got relegated quite easily.

We did sign some people for the future..maybe

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6 minutes ago, egg said:

Yes. If we want first team now, then Winks. If we had the cash for both and used Charles as and when, and let him develop without the need to deliver that was thrown onto Baz and Edozie, then great. I have a feeling that we'll get the balance right this year. 

I think Charles will be expected to start, like Baz was. So, he will be expected to `deliver' as you say.

 

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1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Well, we never signed one and got relegated quite easily.

We did sign some people for the future..maybe

I'm not sure you'll find anyone arguing that we shouldn't have signed a decent striker last summer (least of all me since I was banging on about it on here despite the likes of Lighthouse trying to tell me that Mara had been our striker signing.) 

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Just now, hypochondriac said:

I'm not sure you'll find anyone arguing that we shouldn't have signed a decent striker last summer (least of all me since I was banging on about it on here despite the likes of Lighthouse trying to tell me that Mara had been our striker signing.) 

Mara, forgot about him.  Add him to the Edozie and Larios bucket

Lighthouse also suggested that Romeu was better of gone, as he was past it (words to that effect)

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13 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I'm not sure you'll find anyone arguing that we shouldn't have signed a decent striker last summer (least of all me since I was banging on about it on here despite the likes of Lighthouse trying to tell me that Mara had been our striker signing.) 

Mara was a striker and he signed. You insisted we hadn’t signed a striker; we did, he was sh*t. I’d have liked someone much, much better too but we did sign a striker.

11 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Mara, forgot about him.  Add him to the Edozie and Larios bucket

Lighthouse also suggested that Romeu was better of gone, as he was past it (words to that effect)

Yes, Romeu had been playing poorly for a while and needed a fresh start somewhere else. He chose to return to Spain and we are better off with Lavia in midfield. I don’t care if he does sign for Barcelona, score infinity gazillion goals and win the Ballon D’Or, he wasn’t doing it here.

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11 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I'm not sure you'll find anyone arguing that we shouldn't have signed a decent striker last summer (least of all me since I was banging on about it on here despite the likes of Lighthouse trying to tell me that Mara had been our striker signing.) 

Mara was a striker and he was signed for the first team.

The error was that the only striker signed was done so as third choice behind Che and AA, which was a backward step. Previously we obviously had Broja who, although himself may also have been signed as third choice striker, most certainly wasn't (especially with AA being so poor) as the season progressed. We needed to offload Armstrong and sign two strikers, not one. I guess they did try and do that with apparent efforts to sign Broja, Delap, Ramos and Gakpo, but the failure to do so meant we were weak as piss up front.

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2 hours ago, hypochondriac said:

Great to see all these links coming in suddenly. Seems like we are getting to work now finally. I expect we will see a lot of movement next week. 

its cos rasmus and henrik are in france bothering them so wilcox can crack on without having to send excel spreadsheets everyday.

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1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Are people forgetting quite how bad Fonte was for West Ham? 
 

I doubt he’s got the physicality or pace to play for a top championship side at nearly 40. Head definitely needs to over rule heart with this one imo. 

In fairness to Fonte, in a more structured team at Lille he did very well. French league isn’t slow so if you work it right there’s probably some merit to it. Personally though, I’m not a fan of it, he’s past his best, I’m not convinced we’d play to his strengths and it seems as though if his side are leaking stuff to the media and he’s replying to Instagram messages about it then his side are probably getting a little desperate to make it happen.

Happy to be proven wrong but if we really want his leadership qualities and experience, give him a role as a coach. Not overly convinced bringing a fan favourite who could do no wrong as a coach is a particularly wise move for Martin though either. 

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41 minutes ago, Chez said:

I think Charles will be expected to start, like Baz was. So, he will be expected to `deliver' as you say.

 

Hmm, another massive risk moving a kid from kids football straight into our level of football. I sincerely hope thay you're wrong. 

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7 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Maybe we should have pooled the money on pointless signings and actually bought quality in the summer.

With hindsight it's easy to say we shouldn't have signed him or him. Didn't hear many people saying Orisic was a pointless signing athe time, but he turned out to be.

Besides, we tried to sign quality. Unfortunately, we weren't a terribly attractive proposition, having struggled the season before, so the likes of Broja and Gakpo passed. 

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34 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Maybe we should have pooled the money on pointless signings and actually bought quality in the summer.

There's no evidence that we used up funds on youth prospects which prevented us from buying experienced players. Given our spending in January, we clearly had funds, our experienced buys (Gakpo, martinez) turned us down. 

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I think our player judgment is understandably suffering from “what have you done for me lately-itis”.

The biggest problem last season was not the “kids”. It was that most of them didn’t get an extended chance to settle in their natural role, the pitiful lack of leadership from the senior players, the loss of Romeu’s invaluable skillset, the failure to sign a striker (or play as though we actually had one), the shambolic Jones spell, and then Selles persisting with a dire, no-ambition, keep-possession-until we’re forced to hoof it ‘style’ that never worked and was never going to work. Everyone, including the players, could see it, but not Selles.

KWP and other senior pros didn’t suddenly become crap players. They were sucked into the vortex created by the gong show going on all around them.

I’m good with a young side with some senior leadership figures – a side that can grow and mature together under a manager who sets the team up with some real ambition. Only then will we find out how good the “kids” really are.

Everyone said we needed a rebuild. That’s what a post-relegation rebuild looks like.

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There was admission last year that we couldn't afford 25 year olds who were at their peak.

We purposely bought young players with the intent for them to grow and get better with us.

We didn't expect long term injuries with Livramento and Larios

We didn't anticipate the frailties of the defenders in front of Bazunu.

But know we have got young players with PL experience who still have the potential of being good players.

Let's not write anyone off.

 

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4 minutes ago, Nolan said:

 

We didn't expect long term injuries with Livramento and Larios

We didn't anticipate the frailties of the defenders in front of Bazunu.

 

Livramento suffered a serious injury at the end of the previous season so was always going to be a long term absentee last season.

From what we saw of Larios I don’t think we missed him during his absence.

Beyond belief that the club didn’t think a 19 year old GK wouldn’t struggle in his first season. He may have had some muppets in front of him but that doesn’t excuse some of the feeble attempts he let in (the header at home to Brighton springs to mind). 

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Is anyone else suddenly feeling we are going up? Automatic promotion here we come?!?! 
I just feel it in my waters….. yes lavia will go but most of the team will stay together and we’ll go up without breaking sweat. 

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4 minutes ago, Ball boy said:

Is anyone else suddenly feeling we are going up? Automatic promotion here we come?!?! 
I just feel it in my waters….. yes lavia will go but most of the team will stay together and we’ll go up without breaking sweat. 

Yeh, I still believe we’ll walk Division Two after keeping Channon and Osgood. It’ll be a doddle. 

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20 minutes ago, Saint86 said:

Pretty much have it there clear as day - he was a £7M signing to improve the squad (which he did), and to have potential for the future (which he does)…  I do not know why you've decided to stand on the particular hill of "Edozie is a failure" 🤷‍♂️ - its not like we're short of bad signings last year!

No one is saying that, no one is saying he might not go on to be a very good player. But last season it would have been difficult for him to contribute less. He was brought in to improve the first team squad immediately, our manager said that, he didn’t. It really is that simple. 

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14 hours ago, Paul Chuckle said:

We love to sign an experienced player who's got previous links to the club after relegation from the Premier League

 

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If it’s anything like last season.. we’re more likely to get..

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15 hours ago, Badger said:

£35m for Harvey Barnes, yet clubs think we’re unrealistic is wanting £40-50m for Livramento, JWP and Lavia ! 

And he only has 2 years left on his contract, unlike many of our players.

Obviously when it comes to Adams, KWP and Salisu we're in a trickier position to negotiate if we want a fee.

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21 hours ago, Turkish said:

whatever happened to AdrianSFC? He used to hate us signing players, always thought it was a waste of money and had a right whinge about it every transfer window.

I was wondering about him, slightly concerned as he seemed to be struggling very badly after contracting covid. 

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2 hours ago, Pamplemousse said:

And he only has 2 years left on his contract, unlike many of our players.

Obviously when it comes to Adams, KWP and Salisu we're in a trickier position to negotiate if we want a fee.

I'd be tempted to keep hold of all 3, realistically in January we are going to get 10Million for each. 

 

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On 04/07/2023 at 01:30, StrangelyBrown said:

Nice attempt at trolling - not very subtle though. Cant believe you actually caught someone when you went fishing with KWP/Bree as bait!

I think you need to try a bit harder.

I note that you didn't actually respond to my post with any comment about football - only a typical ad hominem from someone with no knowledge and nothing to say.

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2 hours ago, SNMPT said:

I note that you didn't actually respond to my post with any comment about football - only a typical ad hominem from someone with no knowledge and nothing to say.

Good skills - it's only taken you 4 days to come up with that one. I bow down to your supreme intellect...

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9 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Watching the U21s final. Levi Colwill is absolute class, his positioning, timing and quality is excellent. Didn’t we try and sign him last summer? 

Looks bloody good, did we try to buy or loan him like Brighton did? Think Brighton bid £40 mil but can see Chelsea playing him now Koulibaly has gone.

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1 minute ago, Charlie Wayman said:

Switched off after 38 mins. Absolute dross and Colwell wasn't even our best player.

Well he was for the other 62 minutes. And you missed an amazing finish. I’d much rather we’d signed a James Trafford than Bazunu too, looks to have so much more about him 

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