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17 minutes ago, Saint NL said:

Remember when he wasn't good enough for Saints? 🤦

Thought he left Saints to take his family back to Spain? Not due to the management thinking he wasnt good enough.

 

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18 minutes ago, Saint NL said:

The Athletic are reporting that Oriel Romeu is going to Barcelona.

Remember when he wasn't good enough for Saints? 🤦

Only Mark Hughes didnt think he was good enough if I remember rightly.

Oh and some experts on here reckoned his legs had gone......maybe they should get on the blower and let Barcelona know 🙄

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1 hour ago, ally_uk said:

Leicester in for Ings 6 Million..... 

I'd have him back for that 

What a great signing he’s been for West Ham.

That said, I would have him back.  We don’t have anyone that comes near him when it comes to finishing.

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I'd have him back too.  He's 31 at the end of the month but he should be fine for a couple of seasons.  I presume he was injury free when he was at West Ham?  Suspect he'll be more attracted to the style of play under Russell Martin as well.

Obviously wages would be an issue but 6M gives us a fair bit of scope and if we can take punts on kids that have never played first team football for 10-15M then this represents much less risk.  Kind of signing that would indicate we're serious about next season and addresses some of the question marks about having enough experience in the team.

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14 minutes ago, revolution saint said:

I'd have him back too.  He's 31 at the end of the month but he should be fine for a couple of seasons.  I presume he was injury free when he was at West Ham?  Suspect he'll be more attracted to the style of play under Russell Martin as well.

Obviously wages would be an issue but 6M gives us a fair bit of scope and if we can take punts on kids that have never played first team football for 10-15M then this represents much less risk.  Kind of signing that would indicate we're serious about next season and addresses some of the question marks about having enough experience in the team.

I'd have him in the side to do what Billy Sharp did for us last time we came up, be around the box as much as possible and just finish off moves. 

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53 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

What a great signing he’s been for West Ham.

That said, I would have him back.  We don’t have anyone that comes near him when it comes to finishing.

Totally agree, but fear he is a 'never go back' merchant, despite his links to the city. Worth a go though. Makes Che's finishing look like...well, there's no comparison really. How Che has got to where he has is amazing.

PS don't buy this thing that is cropping up that players who were useless at scoring in the Prem will be amazing in the Champ, just because they scored a few goals once upon a time. Not sure it works like that. Hope we can get the Swansea lad Piroe.

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18 hours ago, revolution saint said:

Could be but we're well stocked in the wide areas anyway.  We've got Djenepo and Edozie who are wingers and then Aribo, S Armstrong and A Armstrong who can play wide as well.  

You’ve got a different definition of “play” than I have. 

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1 minute ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

You’ve got a different definition of “play” than I have. 

You're clever enough to know that I was commenting on the players we have who can play that position rather than whether it's desirable to have them do that.  It was a general comment on the number of players in that position - unless you're advocating the squad becoming even more bloated than it already is?

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1 minute ago, LeBizzier69 said:

£100m they want for Caicedo. To think Liverpool are saying £50m for Lavia is massively overpriced….he’s good, but ain’t worth 2 Lavias.

Good luck to Brighton if they get £100m for Caicedo, crazy price.

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20 minutes ago, Fabrice Fernandes no.1 fan said:

I'd have him in the side to do what Billy Sharp did for us last time we came up, be around the box as much as possible and just finish off moves. 

Exactly.  Would also benefit players like Ballard, Mara and even Adam Armstrong to have Ings around and learn from him and the types of runs to make.

Should definitely be something we should look at, especially if West Ham are interested in JWP and we're quibbling about price.

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5 minutes ago, revolution saint said:

Exactly.  Would also benefit players like Ballard, Mara and even Adam Armstrong to have Ings around and learn from him and the types of runs to make.

Should definitely be something we should look at, especially if West Ham are interested in JWP and we're quibbling about price.

Bringing in Ings would only push Ballard back. Don’t think he’d be pleased unless you sold at least 2 of Che, Mara, Armstrong. 

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2 hours ago, VectisSaint said:

Barcelona is actually in Catalunya (Catalonia), its capital, an autonomous community of Spain. Oriol is a Catalan "international". 

So must be a completely different Oriel Romeu that played for the Spain International team at pretty much every youth level then. 

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3 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Bringing in Ings would only push Ballard back. Don’t think he’d be pleased unless you sold at least 2 of Che, Mara, Armstrong. 

Yeah, I’d be assuming Che and tall Paul would be off in that scenario. That would leave four strikers which might be OK. Don’t especially want to hamper Ballard development but Ings would need to be managed throughout the season so I think it would be fine. Ballard would still get enough opportunities and it’s a long old season 

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13 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Bringing in Ings would only push Ballard back. Don’t think he’d be pleased unless you sold at least 2 of Che, Mara, Armstrong. 

I don’t think we’ll be building our transfer policy around someone who’s played about 20 minutes for us so far. That said, I don’t see us bringing back Ings either.

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11 minutes ago, Ex Lion Tamer said:

Is Ings really dropping down a level? Surely he's still good enough for the Prem, albeit at the bottom end

I think his injuries have taken their toll. West Ham fans can't wait to get shot of him, he's also their highest paid player (even before Rice left).

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44 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

So must be a completely different Oriel Romeu that played for the Spain International team at pretty much every youth level then. 

He didn't play a competitive game for  Spain. Pretty sure under FIFA rules that means you can 'switch' nations if you have some kind of link to another. Besides, don't think Catalonia is a FIFA ratified nation or area. 

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20 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

He didn't play a competitive game for  Spain. Pretty sure under FIFA rules that means you can 'switch' nations if you have some kind of link to another. Besides, don't think Catalonia is a FIFA ratified nation or area. 

This is him playing in the 2012 Olympics for Spain but yeah probably not competitive. 

There's nothing anywhere to suggest he wouldn't have played for the full Spain National team if the opportunity came up. He played at all the youth levels without objection.

Catalonia isn't a real nation in terms of global politics or football authorities so he ain't never going to be playing any "competitive" football for them ever.

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17 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

This is him playing in the 2012 Olympics for Spain but yeah probably not competitive. 

There's nothing anywhere to suggest he wouldn't have played for the full Spain National team if the opportunity came up. He played at all the youth levels without objection.

Catalonia isn't a real nation in terms of global politics or football authorities so he ain't never going to be playing any "competitive" football for them ever.

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So, pretty much what I said then.

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2 hours ago, revolution saint said:

I presume he was injury free when he was at West Ham? 

He didn't miss any games due to injury last season at all.
He started 15 Prem games, came off the bench for 20.  Scored 8 goals and 2 assists.

He also scored one goal in the league cup (from two games) and one in the Europa conference (from 5 games, mostly coming on as a sub).

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1 hour ago, Mr Saints said:

I think his injuries have taken their toll. West Ham fans can't wait to get shot of him, he's also their highest paid player (even before Rice left).

How on earth are Leicester going to afford to pay Vardy £150k a week and Ings £100k a week in the Championship? 

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Im not sure about Ings, he’ll almost certainly be a good signing at this level but just hasn’t looked the same since.. possibly even the season before he left us, you could tell a decline had started

If you could convince him to come on relatively low wages and a 2 year deal with an option then, ok, not too bad but at 31 and a reported 130k P/W ? 
 

Yeah im not convinced tbh

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2 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said:

Im not sure about Ings, he’ll almost certainly be a good signing at this level but just hasn’t looked the same since.. possibly even the season before he left us, you could tell a decline had started

If you could convince him to come on relatively low wages and a 2 year deal with an option then, ok, not too bad but at 31 and a reported 130k P/W ? 
 

Yeah im not convinced tbh

I just don't see how the finances work in terms of a move to a Championship side (or indeed any side to be honest).

He has two years left on his West Ham contract. He has no reason to move and certainly not if he will paid less. If you took him on a free and paid him the same wage as he gets now, that might work. However, it would make more sense to loan him for a year with West Ham paying half his wages. Even then, paying someone £65k a week in the championship is crazy (cough...McCarthy wages ain't far off).

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1 minute ago, Chez said:

I just don't see how the finances work in terms of a move to a Championship side (or indeed any side to be honest).

He has two years left on his West Ham contract. He has no reason to move and certainly not if he will paid less. If you took him on a free and paid him the same wage as he gets now, that might work. However, it would make more sense to loan him for a year with West Ham paying half his wages. Even then, paying someone £65k a week in the championship is crazy (cough...McCarthy wages ain't far off).

Yeah thats how I see it, its a big risk that could go either way for you, if his knee blows out after a week then you’re blowing a huge part of your budget on a lame duck

Certainly isn’t worth it for me

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57 minutes ago, Chez said:

How on earth are Leicester going to afford to pay Vardy £150k a week and Ings £100k a week in the Championship? 

Assume they payback money everytime they miss a game with injury so will probably cost Ings his 50% of his wage most seasons

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2 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said:

 

What's he like? Is he more of a defensive midfielder and someone that gets about the pitch?

I've never really felt JWP to West Ham was a possibility, but could they sign two players in central midfield? They struggled in there last season. Soucek wasn't good.  

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