Summer Transfer Window 2023

[Golac's Cunning Stunts]

Christ, the bbc is having an absolute Jiz fest over Tonali joining Newcastle. Part of me thinks we're better off out of it all to be honest

[Dman]

3 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said:

We have to play hard ball.

According to Dman almost everything we do is bad and almost everything other clubs do is better.... strange outlook........ think he follows wrong club

Not at all. Leicester are building a good squad nice and early and giving the manager weeks to prepare for the season. 

We've spent 2 months squabbling over 500k & pissed a club off to the point where i'll be amazed if they deal with us (and we reportedly want their players), have no idea who's leaving so we can't really bring anyone in as we already have a massively bloated squad. Despite having 3 - 4 weeks longer than Leicester did.

Everything we've done over the past year - 18 months has turned to shit and it feels like this window is no different. 

[Chez]

14 hours ago, Ex Lion Tamer said:

Well keeping his options open by not signing a new contract is different to wanting out immediately

Fair point, but I thought a move to Everton was all but done last summer only for Saints to put a block on it as they couldn't get a replacement striker through the door. Maybe I was mistaken. 

I'm kind of goals he didn't get a new deal. I suspect he wanted a shit load of money, and IMO he hasn't done enough to justify it. At some point we are going to have to move on from him. This summer with £15m in our pocket might be better than next summer with nothing. As always, players leaving is not my concern. What they are replaced with is. 

[Chez]

5 minutes ago, Dman said:

Not at all. Leicester are building a good squad nice and early and giving the manager weeks to prepare for the season. 

We've spent 2 months squabbling over 500k & pissed a club off to the point where i'll be amazed if they deal with us (and we reportedly want their players), have no idea who's leaving so we can't really bring anyone in as we already have a massively bloated squad. Despite having 3 - 4 weeks longer than Leicester did.

Everything we've done over the past year - 18 months has turned to shit and it feels like this window is no different. 

What are you on about? We've not given Ely a new contract and got almost half our money back for Orisic. It's been a bloody brilliant window so far. 

[wild-saint]

4 minutes ago, Dman said:

Not at all. Leicester are building a good squad nice and early and giving the manager weeks to prepare for the season. 

We've spent 2 months squabbling over 500k & pissed a club off to the point where i'll be amazed if they deal with us (and we reportedly want their players), have no idea who's leaving so we can't really bring anyone in as we already have a massively bloated squad. Despite having 3 - 4 weeks longer than Leicester did.

Everything we've done over the past year - 18 months has turned to shit and it feels like this window is no different. 

So unless we buy before we sell which you say we cant do then we have no alternative to sell at a reduced price to get them gone seeing as we have of no way of making any team match our valuation. With that in mind what number do you think we should accept right now for Lavia, JWP, AKB, KWP etc? also if we indicated that we would accept maybe 30m for Lavia, what would stop them offering maybe 20m? 

I would suggest if you cant give an answer to these questions you are just talking bollox. 

[Chez]

7 minutes ago, Golac's Cunning Stunts said:

Christ, the bbc is having an absolute Jiz fest over Tonali joining Newcastle. Part of me thinks we're better off out of it all to be honest

is he the new Pirlo? The BBC used to wank all over him too, even when he could hardly fukcing move, so probably not surprising.

[Charlie Wayman]

17 minutes ago, Dman said:

Not at all. Leicester are building a good squad nice and early and giving the manager weeks to prepare for the season. 

We've spent 2 months squabbling over 500k & pissed a club off to the point where i'll be amazed if they deal with us (and we reportedly want their players), have no idea who's leaving so we can't really bring anyone in as we already have a massively bloated squad. Despite having 3 - 4 weeks longer than Leicester did.

Everything we've done over the past year - 18 months has turned to shit and it feels like this window is no different. 

Surely it's up to Martin who leaves and who stays and he needs time to work that out. Pre season started less than a week ago. You need to be patient. What other clubs do is absolutely irrelevant to what we do.

What is it they say "Marry in haste, repent at leisure". We will see who's approach was best at Christmas.

Edited 3 July, 2023 by Charlie Wayman

[Chez]

38 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I think a new signing or two will do wonders for making us view this as a fresh start and a new challenge. Until we get that it's just the same old bunch of failures. The club need to give us something to be excited about. 

This is true.

Unfortunately we spent £130m last season and we've only received about £5m for Romeu and £2m for Orsic so far (plus a sizeable amount for JJ Morgan I might add). 

Perhaps the only way to feel excited is to consider Alcaraz and Sulemana as new signings (assuming they stay) who could tear this league up now they are settled (assuming they are).

[Dman]

10 minutes ago, wild-saint said:

So unless we buy before we sell which you say we cant do then we have no alternative to sell at a reduced price to get them gone seeing as we have of no way of making any team match our valuation. With that in mind what number do you think we should accept right now for Lavia, JWP, AKB, KWP etc? also if we indicated that we would accept maybe 30m for Lavia, what would stop them offering maybe 20m? 

I would suggest if you cant give an answer to these questions you are just talking bollox. 

As I said in a previous post, there is a fine line between playing hard ball and accepting something a little less if it speeds up the process of getting players out, so you can get players in. 

Like Tino, if players are willing to stay and play in the championship, then play hardball, but for others, Lavia, ABK, KWP, Salisu etc. You're best moving them on as quickly as you can so you don't miss out on targets. 

Would you rather be in Leicesters position, where they are building the core of a championship squad a week into pre-season or us, where its likely all of our big outgoings will be towards the back end of the window...?  

Again, something I touched on earlier.. I'd be giving players / agents a deadline for offer(s) to come in, or they stay. 

Edited 3 July, 2023 by Dman

[qwertyell]

1 hour ago, SNSUN said:

Think we'll need more than one CB but it depends who stays. Very likely Salisu, ABK, Lyanco and DCC could all be off leaving us with Bednarek, Stephens and Simeu. Personally I would like one starter and one decent younger CB at the very least.

Wouldn't mind Doyle or Jacob Greaves (23, Hull) as young left sided CBs to pair with young right sided CBs Wood (21, Swansea) or Edwards (20, Peterborough). Keep Stephens and perhaps Bednarek for their experience, and Simeu as a 5th option/utility type (think he can fill in at RB).

That being said, we don't know if Martin is going to push three at the back - which has generally been his way - or play a back four like he did with a lot of success in the second half of last season.

 

[Chez]

Just now, Dman said:

Again, something I touched on earlier.. I'd be giving players / agents a deadline for offer(s) to come in, or they stay. 

Realistically, are we going to turn down £50m for Lavia on the last day of the window?  

[Dman]

11 minutes ago, Chez said:

Realistically, are we going to turn down £50m for Lavia on the last day of the window?  

This is kind of my point though... We'd have 50m in the bank but a gaping hole in our midfield... or we'd end up spunking a load on some dross, like we did with Big Paul. 

[the saint in winchester]

Sadly, we can probably identify the players we expect to go as of now, but the un/acceptable offers probably won't come in until Transfer Deadline Day. Then we are up against the clock to find and agree deals for replacements.

[Smirking_Saint]

47 minutes ago, Dman said:

I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here. You said you're not jealous of them because they're losing their best players. I'm pointing out that so are we. 

I think there needs to be a fine balance between 'not rolling over' and accepting a figure to speed up the squad overhaul and get an idea of what your squad will look like, so you can work with them pre-season and hit the ground running come the first game. 

In what way do you not know what point I’m trying to make ? Its pretty obvious ? Im not sure there is any clubs, unless financially stricken (of which ironically Leicester are one) that initiate a rushed firesale in order to understand squad set up… its dumb….. for a start you undermine any negotiating position that you had, both buying AND selling as you’re effectively informing the market place that you’re under pressure and secondly you’re operating on a lower budget

As for Leicester, they’ve lined up targets because they have too, they had two fit CBs and 1 reliably fit midfielder who is technically more of a forward operator… they lost Tielemens for free, Madisson under value and likely Barnes too… what they have remaining is ageing and injury prone and widely documented on high wages… Leicester are a mess and yes have done a decent job trying to firefight so far but Winks is a player nobody around the prem wanted last year and ended up stinking out the place at Sampdoria and Coady has been bombed out by two teams battling relegation so im not really certain what quality actually remains

There really isn’t a need to stress, we will lise players but we obviously knkw what we need to bring in and who to sell and where our value lies… moreover as Ive said before and clearly is correct SR are happy to bankroll us for atleast thus year.. we aren’t the Southampton that has to sell to survive any more… Leicester however are.. hence why Im not at all envious of them

[Dman]

6 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said:

In what way do you not know what point I’m trying to make ? Its pretty obvious ? Im not sure there is any clubs, unless financially stricken (of which ironically Leicester are one) that initiate a rushed firesale in order to understand squad set up… its dumb….. for a start you undermine any negotiating position that you had, both buying AND selling as you’re effectively informing the market place that you’re under pressure and secondly you’re operating on a lower budget

As for Leicester, they’ve lined up targets because they have too, they had two fit CBs and 1 reliably fit midfielder who is technically more of a forward operator… they lost Tielemens for free, Madisson under value and likely Barnes too… what they have remaining is ageing and injury prone and widely documented on high wages… Leicester are a mess and yes have done a decent job trying to firefight so far but Winks is a player nobody around the prem wanted last year and ended up stinking out the place at Sampdoria and Coady has been bombed out by two teams battling relegation so im not really certain what quality actually remains

There really isn’t a need to stress, we will lise players but we obviously knkw what we need to bring in and who to sell and where our value lies… moreover as Ive said before and clearly is correct SR are happy to bankroll us for atleast thus year.. we aren’t the Southampton that has to sell to survive any more… Leicester however are.. hence why Im not at all envious of them

What on earth are you rambling on about. Who has said we need to initiate a 'rushed fire sale'? Like I said, there's a fine line between holding your ground and demanding (lets be honest above market value) top whack for your players and accepting a little less to get them out the door quicker, so you don't miss out on targets. 

Having an extra £5m in your bank account is no good when you've lost all your other targets to promotion rivals and have a gaping hole in your midfield. 

As it happens, I've no issue with us selling every single player in our squad if we needed to, but with every day that goes by, we're missing out of potential targets. 

[JRM]

45 minutes ago, Dman said:

As I said in a previous post, there is a fine line between playing hard ball and accepting something a little less if it speeds up the process of getting players out, so you can get players in. 

Like Tino, if players are willing to stay and play in the championship, then play hardball, but for others, Lavia, ABK, KWP, Salisu etc. You're best moving them on as quickly as you can so you don't miss out on targets. 

Would you rather be in Leicesters position, where they are building the core of a championship squad a week into pre-season or us, where its likely all of our big outgoings will be towards the back end of the window...?  

Again, something I touched on earlier.. I'd be giving players / agents a deadline for offer(s) to come in, or they stay. 

No point in comparison, most of Leicesters departures were out of contract, one big name they sold as they received what they considered an acceptable bid for. 

We have cleared out our out of contract players in the same way, Walcott, Ely but haven't received suitable offers for our players. With the size of the squad things need to take their course, we can't speed up players leaving , once that happens we can move on 

[hypochondriac]

47 minutes ago, Chez said:

This is true.

Unfortunately we spent £130m last season and we've only received about £5m for Romeu and £2m for Orsic so far (plus a sizeable amount for JJ Morgan I might add). 

Perhaps the only way to feel excited is to consider Alcaraz and Sulemana as new signings (assuming they stay) who could tear this league up now they are settled (assuming they are).

I think if Sulemana leaves I'll be pissed off. I don't feel he received enough of a chance last year and was criminally mismanaged. He could be superb eventually in the prem let alone the championship. 

[ErwinK1961]

3 minutes ago, Dman said:

What on earth are you rambling on about. Who has said we need to initiate a 'rushed fire sale'? Like I said, there's a fine line between holding your ground and demanding (lets be honest above market value) top whack for your players and accepting a little less to get them out the door quicker, so you don't miss out on targets. 

Having an extra £5m in your bank account is no good when you've lost all your other targets to promotion rivals and have a gaping hole in your midfield. 

As it happens, I've no issue with us selling every single player in our squad if we needed to, but with every day that goes by, we're missing out of potential targets. 

There is a fine line, but someone offering £30m for Lavia when we want £50m, or £15m for Tino when we want £30m after Chelsea payaway isn’t fine lines - they are rather large differences and unless they make serious offers then I’m all for the club standing ground.

[hypochondriac]

7 minutes ago, Dman said:

What on earth are you rambling on about. Who has said we need to initiate a 'rushed fire sale'? Like I said, there's a fine line between holding your ground and demanding (lets be honest above market value) top whack for your players and accepting a little less to get them out the door quicker, so you don't miss out on targets. 

Having an extra £5m in your bank account is no good when you've lost all your other targets to promotion rivals and have a gaping hole in your midfield. 

As it happens, I've no issue with us selling every single player in our squad if we needed to, but with every day that goes by, we're missing out of potential targets. 

I think also we could bring players in but we have to give the manager enough time to work with the team. A bad start could be suicidal and would be criminal really given how much longer we've had than other teams.

[Dman]

2 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said:

There is a fine line, but someone offering £30m for Lavia when we want £50m, or £15m for Tino when we want £30m after Chelsea payaway isn’t fine lines - they are rather large differences and unless they make serious offers then I’m all for the club standing ground.

Agreed... 

 

[Smirking_Saint]

6 minutes ago, Dman said:

What on earth are you rambling on about. Who has said we need to initiate a 'rushed fire sale'? Like I said, there's a fine line between holding your ground and demanding (lets be honest above market value) top whack for your players and accepting a little less to get them out the door quicker, so you don't miss out on targets. 

Having an extra £5m in your bank account is no good when you've lost all your other targets to promotion rivals and have a gaping hole in your midfield. 

As it happens, I've no issue with us selling every single player in our squad if we needed to, but with every day that goes by, we're missing out of potential targets. 

Well… to an extent you did… you’re literally going round and round in circles and failing to land any significant point to be honest… we aren’t and shouldn’t back down on our asking price, potentially by smaller margins but almost certainly not at almost 50% of what we value our players at, thats just daft

And how do you know ‘we’re missing out on potential targets’ ? You’re literally making stuff up now, unless you genuinely believe we were in for Winks, Coady, Tom Ince or Ashley Barnes… none of which we’ve been linked with anywhere in the media

[Dman]

Just now, hypochondriac said:

I think also we could bring players in but we have to give the manager enough time to work with the team. A bad start could be suicidal and would be criminal really given how much longer we've had than other teams.

This is essentially the point i'm making. IMO, we either need to gamble on bringing players in now and letting negotiations run on into the window (with the risk being we might not sell), or accept we need to start to bring players in now and off load those who want out. 

At the minute, Martin is trying to work with and install a new philosophy with a squad that (likely) 60% of wont be around next season. All the while transfer rivals (Leicester) are stealing ground brining in players whom we should absolutely we looking at. 

[miserableoldgit]

"I wish we were Leicester......😔"

[bugenhagen]

I can't speak for anybody else, but the reason I am impatient this summer basically comes down to two things:

1) I currently have no reason to believe that SR will get this window right based on any evidence, but happy to be proved wrong and start believing again. I want to believe - but need to see at least a few signs before I do

2) I actually want most of our old squad out, so time is not on my side. In my mind the same group of players will just continue to lose and struggle - no matter who the manager or owners are - or what division we are in. I think our squad need major surgery, but sadly, we cant remove the spine... because it is nowhere to be found 😀

[revolution saint]

17 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I think if Sulemana leaves I'll be pissed off. I don't feel he received enough of a chance last year and was criminally mismanaged. He could be superb eventually in the prem let alone the championship. 

Sulemana, Alcaraz, Tella and Livramento could all be superb in the championship.  Obviously I hope we keep them all but suspect at least one will leave but even so it's still pretty good.  I'd expect us to replace Adams if he goes but if he doesn't then it's a decent player in the championship plus I still think Mara could come good after a difficult first season. There's still (at the moment) lots of reasons to be positive.

Centre mid is a concern - I'm expecting Lavia and JWP to go so we'll need at least two more in of decent quality and I'm not sure Diallo is good enough or will be here.

Having said all that, I wish we were Leicester.

[wild-saint]

25 minutes ago, Dman said:

What on earth are you rambling on about. Who has said we need to initiate a 'rushed fire sale'? Like I said, there's a fine line between holding your ground and demanding (lets be honest above market value) top whack for your players and accepting a little less to get them out the door quicker, so you don't miss out on targets. 

Having an extra £5m in your bank account is no good when you've lost all your other targets to promotion rivals and have a gaping hole in your midfield. 

As it happens, I've no issue with us selling every single player in our squad if we needed to, but with every day that goes by, we're missing out of potential targets. 

 

1 hour ago, Dman said:

As I said in a previous post, there is a fine line between playing hard ball and accepting something a little less if it speeds up the process of getting players out, so you can get players in. 

Like Tino, if players are willing to stay and play in the championship, then play hardball, but for others, Lavia, ABK, KWP, Salisu etc. You're best moving them on as quickly as you can so you don't miss out on targets. 

Would you rather be in Leicesters position, where they are building the core of a championship squad a week into pre-season or us, where its likely all of our big outgoings will be towards the back end of the window...?  

Again, something I touched on earlier.. I'd be giving players / agents a deadline for offer(s) to come in, or they stay. 

I dont recall seeing any bids of £45m for Lavia or £35m for JWP do you? There seems to be a lot of talk about low bids and saints asking too much but little mutual ground being made on getting closer. Not sure what you want saints to do to get things moving as you havent really offered an alternatives. 

Sure id rather know where we are with players out and In but it really doesnt seem as simple as you are making it sound. 

Do you really think saints saying ok well take 35 on JWP or 40 on lavia will ensure we get that money or will it just weaken our hand further as we are desperate? 

[Dman]

3 minutes ago, wild-saint said:

 

I dont recall seeing any bids of £45m for Lavia or £35m for JWP do you? There seems to be a lot of talk about low bids and saints asking too much but little mutual ground being made on getting closer. Not sure what you want saints to do to get things moving as you havent really offered an alternatives. 

Sure id rather know where we are with players out and In but it really doesnt seem as simple as you are making it sound. 

Do you really think saints saying ok well take 35 on JWP or 40 on lavia will ensure we get that money or will it just weaken our hand further as we are desperate? 

FWIW - I've not at any point said we should have accepted any offers we've currently received. 

This has spun off on a massive tangent off the back of a comment from Smirking_saint, saying he's not jealous of Leicester because they're losing their best players, to which I pointed out so are we (eventually). He then started going on about rolling over etc. 

The point i'm making is (as above) - we're hamstrung at the minute until we can shift a few (unless we're willing to gamble on bringing some in without some going out) 

[Suhari]

18 minutes ago, miserableoldgit said:

"I wish we were Leicester......😔"

Early days, but they look favourites to win the transfer window.

[miserableoldgit]

1 minute ago, Suhari said:

Early days, but they look favourites to win the transfer window.

We get one every year......

[SuperSAINT]

Much like Burnley at the start of last season, they had the advantage of having jettisoned a ton of players at the end of their contracts. Sure, you don’t get money in, but it gives you a ton of wage allowance to bring in new ones.

[Turkish]

1 minute ago, SuperSAINT said:

Much like Burnley at the start of last season, they had the advantage of having jettisoned a ton of players at the end of their contracts. Sure, you don’t get money in, but it gives you a ton of wage allowance to bring in new ones.

Still got Vestergaard though.

[Smirking_Saint]

33 minutes ago, Dman said:

FWIW - I've not at any point said we should have accepted any offers we've currently received. 

This has spun off on a massive tangent off the back of a comment from Smirking_saint, saying he's not jealous of Leicester because they're losing their best players, to which I pointed out so are we (eventually). He then started going on about rolling over etc. 

The point i'm making is (as above) - we're hamstrung at the minute until we can shift a few (unless we're willing to gamble on bringing some in without some going out) 

You still havn’t managed to make any semblance of a point tbh

Leicester have lost 1 starting AM, 2 CBs and a couple of squad players with arguably a market value of 100m+ for 40m and have replaced them with… checks notes… Harry Winks and Conor Coady… they’re also widely reported to be absolutely skint… man I wish we were Leicester

Edit - Their squad depth is also absolutely woeful and includes players either ageing or injury prone (or both) and their better players only have a year left on their contracts… they’re genuinely an absolute mess and absolutely HAD to make quick early signings that aren’t necessarily going to be the best available 

Edited 3 July, 2023 by Smirking_Saint

[Chez]

1 hour ago, hypochondriac said:

I think if Sulemana leaves I'll be pissed off. I don't feel he received enough of a chance last year and was criminally mismanaged. He could be superb eventually in the prem let alone the championship. 

Likewise. I'm hoping he didn't do enough to attract a suitor and we subsequently benefit, assuming he is willing to fight for us in the Championship.

I think you may be right. I was critical of him in his early showings. He did and achieved very little. The Leeds game was a case in point. Not entirely his fault, as he hardly touched the ball, but we badly needed a spark from somewhere in that game and we got nothing. He has scary pace and that alone means he is going to be a threat at any level. If we can get regular end product, then we have a chance in all games.  

[Chez]

45 minutes ago, Dman said:

 

The point i'm making is (as above) - we're hamstrung at the minute until we can shift a few (unless we're willing to gamble on bringing some in without some going out) 

We have already gambled. We did that in January. We brought in lots of players and the squad is now huge. From a numbers point of view alone, there is no need to bring in anyone.

I don't feel SR should be gambling again and bringing in yet more players, at more cost and adding to the already massive wage bill until players depart. 

This massive hole in CM (that we all expect) simply doesn't exist yet. When it does we can look to fill it. We will have targets in mind. I suspect there are very few Championship teams able to acquire Flynn from West Ham for example. Until West Ham fill their own CM hole, he won't be going anywhere anyway. In an ideal world we have our squad for 23/24 almost done and dusted, but we were relegated and now we are paying the price. 

For anyone that is impatient, simply imagine that we signed Bree, Alcaraz and Sulemana today, not in January. I think most would be pretty happy with the summer so far.

[Chez]

45 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Still got Vestergaard though.

Hopefully with no relegation wage reduction clause. Final year of his contract though.

[SuperSAINT]

 

[Miltonaggro]

4 minutes ago, Chez said:

We have already gambled. We did that in January. We brought in lots of players and the squad is now huge. From a numbers point of view alone, there is no need to bring in anyone.

I don't feel SR should be gambling again and bringing in yet more players, at more cost and adding to the already massive wage bill until players depart. 

This massive hole in CM (that we all expect) simply doesn't exist yet. When it does we can look to fill it. We will have targets in mind. I suspect there are very few Championship teams able to acquire Flynn from West Ham for example. Until West Ham fill their own CM hole, he won't be going anywhere anyway. In an ideal world we have our squad for 23/24 almost done and dusted, but we were relegated and now we are paying the price. 

For anyone that is impatient, simply imagine that we signed Bree, Alcaraz and Sulemana today, not in January. I think most would be pretty happy with the summer so far.

I was thInking along these lines recently in terms of probable SR strategy. Likely to see four to six in through the summer, a couple of Martin picks and one in one out, late exit of some of the big names, and then board assess where we are in January. I’ve very little loyalty to this squad or belief in SR and to be honest would prefer scorched earth and full rebuild, but don’t think that will happen. 

[Baird of the land]

1 hour ago, revolution saint said:

Sulemana, Alcaraz, Tella and Livramento could all be superb in the championship.  Obviously I hope we keep them all but suspect at least one will leave but even so it's still pretty good.  I'd expect us to replace Adams if he goes but if he doesn't then it's a decent player in the championship plus I still think Mara could come good after a difficult first season. There's still (at the moment) lots of reasons to be positive.

Centre mid is a concern - I'm expecting Lavia and JWP to go so we'll need at least two more in of decent quality and I'm not sure Diallo is good enough or will be here.

Having said all that, I wish we were Leicester.

I’d be disappointed if we lost any of those 4. They feel like the players we should be building round not auctioning off if we have any ambition left.

i’ve resigned Myself to jwp and lavia leaving, which at least should generate the much needed funds.( I expected kwp too but been very quiet on that front so maybe his stock is damaged.) I fully expect adams to leave as there’s no way the club will want to let him walk for free.

[SNSUN]

2 hours ago, qwertyell said:

Wouldn't mind Doyle or Jacob Greaves (23, Hull) as young left sided CBs to pair with young right sided CBs Wood (21, Swansea) or Edwards (20, Peterborough). Keep Stephens and perhaps Bednarek for their experience, and Simeu as a 5th option/utility type (think he can fill in at RB).

That being said, we don't know if Martin is going to push three at the back - which has generally been his way - or play a back four like he did with a lot of success in the second half of last season.

 

Edwards being linked with the Prem, would be decent if we got him though. Links to all the Swansea players concern me slightly, not least because they were only mid-table last season (I believe their squad was thin though) but also because, having pinched their manager in iffy circumstances, they may be unwilling to do business with us. Latibeudiere and Manning are out of contract so they will be getable though.

[manji]

3 hours ago, wild-saint said:

So unless we buy before we sell which you say we cant do then we have no alternative to sell at a reduced price to get them gone seeing as we have of no way of making any team match our valuation. With that in mind what number do you think we should accept right now for Lavia, JWP, AKB, KWP etc? also if we indicated that we would accept maybe 30m for Lavia, what would stop them offering maybe 20m? 

I would suggest if you cant give an answer to these questions you are just talking bollox. 

Utter nonsense that  we  have to sell before we buy. We have plenty of money and definitely won’t sell any of our top players on the cheap.

 

[northam soul]

33 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said:

 

Are we only allowed to sign City’s fucking reserves?

 

[SambaMaverick]

Seriously odd that our only links so far this summer have been with Swansea or Man City players.

[richardc]

2 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said:

Seriously odd that our only links so far this summer have been with Swansea or Man City players.

Martin and Wilcox 

 

[manji]

1 hour ago, Smirking_Saint said:

You still havn’t managed to make any semblance of a point tbh

Leicester have lost 1 starting AM, 2 CBs and a couple of squad players with arguably a market value of 100m+ for 40m and have replaced them with… checks notes… Harry Winks and Conor Coady… they’re also widely reported to be absolutely skint… man I wish we were Leicester

Edit - Their squad depth is also absolutely woeful and includes players either ageing or injury prone (or both) and their better players only have a year left on their contracts… they’re genuinely an absolute mess and absolutely HAD to make quick early signings that aren’t necessarily going to be the best available 

Leicester are skint debated to the eyeballs. Saints are in a miles better position than them , just because little has been announced yet.

Do you seriously think Joe Shields would leave Man City for a no hope Club. I swear to god some of this is far too complicated for bedwetters like Dman.

For the millionth time the reason last season was fucked up was Joe Shields walking out on us after 3 months leaving an ill prepared Rasmus in charge of recruitment. That was not going to be his job last season.

[manji]

6 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said:

Seriously odd that our only links so far this summer have been with Swansea or Man City players.

They are just clickbait links I mean Saints Extra ? Since when have they been a news source ? Did we ever get linked with Mane ?

[AlexLaw76]

2 minutes ago, manji said:

Leicester are skint debated to the eyeballs. Saints are in a miles better position than them , just because little has been announced yet.

Do you seriously think Joe Shields would leave Man City for a no hope Club. I swear to god some of this is far too complicated for bedwetters like Dman.

For the millionth time the reason last season was fucked up was Joe Shields walking out on us after 3 months leaving an ill prepared Rasmus in charge of recruitment. That was not going to be his job last season.

Lemmie guess.  For the uninitiated, we are about to enter a golden period at the club?

Having just been relegated, selling our best players and having appointed to idiots as the manager?

[Chez]

13 minutes ago, northam soul said:

Are we only allowed to sign City’s fucking reserves?

 

We didn't sign any from them in January after Shields had fucked off. 

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, manji said:

They are just clickbait links I mean Saints Extra ? Since when have they been a news source ? Did we ever get linked with Mane ?

Russell Martin to Saints was just clickbait, right?

[SambaMaverick]

Just now, manji said:

They are just clickbait links I mean Saints Extra ? Since when have they been a news source ? Did we ever get linked with Mane ?

Saints Extra is an aggregator. The source is at the end of the tweet, tagged (Daily Mail).

[revolution saint]

With Wilcox as director of football we'll absolutely be trying to sign kids from Man City.  I'd imagine that's half the reason why we got him in the first place - he'll have good knowledge of both them and other players in the same age range.  I don't really have a problem with that as long as we don't expect all of them to have an instant impact and maintain their form over the course of the entire season.  We'll need some decent championship experience as well but as long as we keep that in mind then I don't think it's a problem.

Anyone who expects our policy to massively switch is going to be disappointed though.