BARCELONASAINT Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 Sky reporter outside Arsenal training ground reporting he's not expecting any incomings today! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 Flexibility seems key to Martin. Assuming he won't want to be using Bree too much if he doesn't leave, wouldn't be all that surprising to be bringing in Johnson regardless of KWP. That said, wouldn't be surprising for someone to come in for KWP either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Neil Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 Can't see ABK going to Spurs as they are trying to get Lloyd Kelly in and trying to get Dier to go the other way, who's having none of it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 12 minutes ago, once_bitterne said: To @manji and all of 'cash sloshing about' mob who were saying the club was in great financial shape, even with relegation and didn't really need to sell that many players. To date we have sold around £160m worth of players (with more to go today!) and spent around £10m on new ones (4 loans, 2 free transfers and 1 player signing). Yeah we know, you've made this point about 10000000 times during the transfer window. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 13 minutes ago, Convict Colony said: Assume you are going as a suicide bomber ? Oh please……….don’t forget. Choose Violence. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James G Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 Just now, Dig Dig said: Flexibility seems key to Martin. Assuming he won't want to be using Bree too much if he doesn't leave, wouldn't be all that surprising to be bringing in Johnson regardless of KWP. That said, wouldn't be surprising for someone to come in for KWP either. Bree is available for loan, I believe. Arsenal enquired about kwp a few weeks back, and Tottenham yesterday, just with the agent, no follow-up. Kwp is happy at Southampton, apparently So any new player would be in place of Bree I presume 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 1 minute ago, Turkish said: Yeah we know, you've made this point about 10000000 times during the transfer window. Calm down Dickie! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 8 minutes ago, egg said: Absolutely - no player goes from a PL reserve to a championship reserve. Throughout the window I've said that KWP or Tino will stay, but instinct says that he'll go today. Weirdly I think Man Utd will take him. the fabulous signing of Lee Molyneux from Everton in 2009 proves your statement incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 https://x.com/saintsextra/status/1697558627119161680?s=46&t=7raSKCMt6LV8RJ1C2d39WQ Che to Wolves progressing. He is not welcome back after this loan if it isn’t an obligation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 1 minute ago, once_bitterne said: Calm down Dickie! im calm Bradley, i agree with you but no need to mention it every time you post Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 Same as what was being reported yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 Just now, goodymatt said: https://x.com/saintsextra/status/1697558627119161680?s=46&t=7raSKCMt6LV8RJ1C2d39WQ Che to Wolves progressing. He is not welcome back after this loan if it isn’t an obligation. what you going to do if he does, give a giant foam hand thumbs down when he's warming up? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 AC Milan after Patson Daka. Hope that goes ahead as it would weaken Leicester further - even more so if Iheanacho goes too. Weren't Milan also in for Mara or was that just a rumour? Personally if Onuachu and Ballard go, I'd be quite happy for Mara to stay. Yes he's done sod all so far but with AA better deeper/wider and uncertainty over Stewart's fitness, I'd be a lot more comfortable having a 3rd striker in who at least knows the club. Will we still bring another striker as a 4th? I don't think so - I think the club see AA as a striker. We shall see. Under 12 hours now... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, stevy777_x said: Jacob from the Athletic being the main culprit saying we would be the championship team that would spend the most this summer. Just goes to show sometimes this isjust guess work I'm not sure exactly what he said, but only Leicester, Leeds and Coventry have spent more than us this summer Edited 1 September, 2023 by Ex Lion Tamer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 Just now, Turkish said: the fabulous signing of Lee Molyneux from Everton in 2009 proves your statement incorrect. Lol, nicely dug up from the barrel of absolute shite we signed back then! It happens all the time players drop down expecting to be first choice but actually find it much harder in the championship than they expected 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 Just now, Turkish said: the fabulous signing of Lee Molyneux from Everton in 2009 proves your statement incorrect. Hmmmm...I forgot Lee Molyneux. He was a shocker though, and barely qualified as a footballer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 1 minute ago, egg said: Hmmmm...I forgot Lee Molyneux. He was a shocker though, and barely qualified as a footballer. Gregory VIgnal would also have something to say about your statement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 3 minutes ago, Turkish said: the fabulous signing of Lee Molyneux from Everton in 2009 proves your statement incorrect. Stephen O’Halloran too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 Surely any Che loan/contract extension will just be a FFP workaround - can’t see why he, us or Wolves would want this for anything other than that. If we were that desperate to get rid we’d have taken the 12mil from Everton or whatever Bournemouth offered. Imagine this will ensure us a decent fee, just deferred until next summer - seems to be all the rage this window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 1 minute ago, a1ex2001 said: Lol, nicely dug up from the barrel of absolute shite we signed back then! It happens all the time players drop down expecting to be first choice but actually find it much harder in the championship than they expected Ryan Smith was my favourite, Wotte said he was world class when we signed him, he was absolutely shite! 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Verbal Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 21 minutes ago, Saint_lambden said: Suspect it'll be KWP to Arsenal. According to my Arsenal-obsessed son, no one vaguely credible on their various forums thinks this. We'll see... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 6 minutes ago, goodymatt said: https://x.com/saintsextra/status/1697558627119161680?s=46&t=7raSKCMt6LV8RJ1C2d39WQ Che to Wolves progressing. He is not welcome back after this loan if it isn’t an obligation. Im sure the club will value your input 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 3 minutes ago, Turkish said: Gregory VIgnal would also have something to say about your statement. 3 minutes ago, Appy said: Stephen O’Halloran too I'll slowly walk away from this subject!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 14 minutes ago, stevy777_x said: Jacob from the Athletic being the main culprit saying we would be the championship team that would spend the most this summer. Just goes to show sometimes this isjust guess work If any of you assumed we’d spend anywhere near our incomings in a Championship window then Im sorry to say you’re a bit of a div 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said: If any of you assumed we’d spend anywhere near our incomings in a Championship window then Im sorry to say you’re a bit of a div I'm still fascinated by people being fascinated by how much we spend. Who gives a monkeys - it's all about having a decent squad to have a crack at promotion, and then not being stuck with inadequate players when we're back to the land of milk, honey and weekly defeats. Edited 1 September, 2023 by egg 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 Amazed that no one has stalked the bus or plane leaving for Sunderland today. Knowing who was on there would have given a lot of insight into who was staying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 Just now, Smirking_Saint said: If any of you assumed we’d spend anywhere near our incomings in a Championship window then Im sorry to say you’re a bit of a div to be fair Jacob Tanswell might be right, we would spend the most. £11m on Charles, £8m on Stewart, £5m on Roberts, that's nearly £25m plus loan fees, lets say £5m. takes us to £30m. Obviously no where near what we've brought in but wont be many spending that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambtiss Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 6 minutes ago, Turkish said: Ryan Smith was my favourite, Wotte said he was world class when we signed him, he was absolutely shite! He wasn't even that good 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 (edited) 28 minutes ago, once_bitterne said: To @manji and all of 'cash sloshing about' mob who were saying the club was in great financial shape, even with relegation and didn't really need to sell that many players. To date we have sold around £160m worth of players (with more to go today!) and spent around £10m on new ones (4 loans, 2 free transfers and 1 player signing). You know as well as I do a lot of the players out were surplus to requirement. Didn’t want JWP to go but we won’t miss him. We owed him really. It’s good business practice as well. Was very impressed with Philip Parsons our new CEO at the fans forum. To remind you we have the January window and hopefully Promotion to prepare for. I’m surprised at you. Often disagreed with you but like Turkish you’ve been on here a long time. You’re talking like these strange newbies that have appeared recently that clearly have no idea how a business works. Forchrissakes forget the sniping ( except for James Blunt ) for one day. Got the rest of the season for that. Edited 1 September, 2023 by manji Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 1 minute ago, manji said: You know as well as I do a lot of the players out were surplus to requirement. Didn’t want JWP to go but we won’t miss him. We owed him really. It’s good business practice as well. Was very impressed with Philip Parsons our new CEO at the fans forum. To remind you we have the January window and hopefully Promotion to prepare for. I’m surprised at you. Often disagreed with you but like Turkish you’ve been on here a long time. You’re talking like these strange newbies that have appeared recently that clearly have no idea how a business works. I was going to say the same about you Manji. You always seemed quite sensible, even in the Lowe era, and realised the financial realities of being a plc that had to break even when the more moronic fans were talking about 'investment' - i.e. spending money we didn't have. Given the mad spending of £160m to get relegated last season, coupled with being in a league with around £100m per season less revenues than the PL for a club of our size, we were always going to have to sell between £150m-£200m of players just to avoid the administration route we went down last time. Anyone denying this would clearly have no idea how a business works. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 7 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said: If any of you assumed we’d spend anywhere near our incomings in a Championship window then Im sorry to say you’re a bit of a div Who needs to spend money when you can get quality loans in like Downes, THB, Fraser and Holgate... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 4 minutes ago, lambtiss said: He wasn't even that good Had a long chat with Wotte once in West Quay. Nice guy but a bit spaced out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 8 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said: If any of you assumed we’d spend anywhere near our incomings in a Championship window then Im sorry to say you’re a bit of a div What would you label people claiming we had no financial reason to sell anyone? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 18 minutes ago, Turkish said: what you going to do if he does, give a giant foam hand thumbs down when he's warming up? Would you want to see him in a Saints shirt again after this move. I certainly wouldn’t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 1 minute ago, AlexLaw76 said: What would you label people claiming we had no financial reason to sell anyone? aren't we a financial juggernaut? The richest team every to be in the championship or something? 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 3 minutes ago, once_bitterne said: I was going to say the same about you Manji. You always seemed quite sensible, even in the Lowe era, and realised the financial realities of being a plc that had to break even when the more moronic fans were talking about 'investment' - i.e. spending money we didn't have. Given the mad spending of £160m to get relegated last season, coupled with being in a league with around £100m per season less revenues than the PL for a club of our size, we were always going to have to sell between £150m-£200m of players just to avoid the administration route we went down last time. Anyone denying this would clearly have no idea how a business works. I’m not going to repeat my theory about last season. If you remember Dragan admitted last season was a mess. He even admitted he took his eye off the ball and was going to be more proactive. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 2 minutes ago, Turkish said: aren't we a financial juggernaut? The richest team every to be in the championship or something? Yeah. You don’t need to keep repeating it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 3 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: What would you label people claiming we had no financial reason to sell anyone? Why is it hard to understand that we didn't have to sell any particular player if we didn't get an appropriate price, but that sales overall were desirable given the dramatic loss of income. If KWP/Sulemana/Alcaraz etc end up staying then that just proves the point 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kitch Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 1 hour ago, CB Fry said: Little Sekou's teenage mates must have been queuing up to play round his house #maraIN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 Just now, Ex Lion Tamer said: Why is it hard to understand that we didn't have to sell any particular player if we didn't get an appropriate price, but that sales overall were desirable given the dramatic loss of income. If KWP/Sulemana/Alcaraz etc end up staying then that just proves the point We clearly did have to sell players as we had a massive wage bill, a huge drop in revenue and a deficit in money spent on fees Other than that, we clearly did not need to sell....other than we are now pushing people out on loan.. All fine BTW, but please, the nonsense needs to stop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdmickey3 Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 Just how funny would the bin dippers meltdown be if Salah does go 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 Just now, tdmickey3 said: Just how funny would the bin dippers meltdown be if Salah does go That would be f-ing amazing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: We clearly did have to sell players as we had a massive wage bill, a huge drop in revenue and a deficit in money spent on fees Other than that, we clearly did not need to sell....other than we are now pushing people out on loan.. All fine BTW, but please, the nonsense needs to stop We're letting players leave on loan because they're not committed to the club, not because we desperately need the money. Again, the fact they're going on loan is because we don't need to drop our asking prices Edited 1 September, 2023 by Ex Lion Tamer 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 2 hours ago, CB Fry said: Big signing for them hope it's not a tall story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 4 minutes ago, Ex Lion Tamer said: We're letting players leave on loan because they're not committed to the club, not because we desperately need the money. Again, the fact they're going on loan is because we don't need to drop our asking prices LOLOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 From what appears a reputable source…. 15 mins ago…..Southampton forward Sekou Mara is in early talks about joining French giants Lille. The France Under-21s international is open to a move but it remains at an early stage. Lille reached the Conference League last night and need depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 Interesting shift in our recruitment towards British players. We could name a very strong team entirely of British/Irish players, arguably on Alcaraz would get in our strongest side. Wonder when the last time we had a first team lineup with nobody outside UK/ROI - probably 20 years or more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, CB Fry said: Johnson is a back up full back for a Premier league team now, don't see why he'd drop a division to be a back up full back for a Championship team. He's the KWP replacement or not coming IMO. KWP is going to happen bloody quickly and out of absolutely nowhere now, 12 hours to go and not a single link of him going away for the entire 8 weeks of the window. But still feels like he will go. I agree. Johnson will be coming to play, not sit behind KWP. KWP was linked to Newcastle, Fulham and Arsenal. It would be no surprise if he departed today. The surprise to me is it hasn't happened before. I would suggest it's because we have said the price is £30m and thus any enquiries have been swift. Teams will have waited to see if they can get a deal. Hope they don't. Edited 1 September, 2023 by Chez 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Red Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 Not much point being at an early stage with only 11 hours and 45minutes until the window SLAMS shut 2 minutes ago, saint lard said: From what appears a reputable source…. 15 mins ago…..Southampton forward Sekou Mara is in early talks about joining French giants Lille. The France Under-21s international is open to a move but it remains at an early stage. Lille reached the Conference League last night and need depth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 1 September, 2023 Share Posted 1 September, 2023 Just now, Winchester Red said: Not much point being at an early stage with only 11 hours and 45minutes until the window SLAMS shut 11pm isn’t it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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