miserableoldgit Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 Just watched RM's presser on YouTube, including the "embargoed" bit. Said a couple of times that he hoped to get "3 or 4 in" before the window slams shut. Needs to get a move on.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvSFC Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 I said we should get Stewart and Cannon if Adams was to leave yesterday. Cannon would be a good stop gap while Stewart gets fit and then be a good backup. But, there has to be a heavy O'Rourke tax. Bloke knows nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSA96 Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 https://x.com/jpercytelegraph/status/1697268018504405170?s=46&t=f0hgNyKSvvOD5qjGLJhsXQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 Percy saying Wolves in talks with Adams over loan deal, surely we aren’t letting him go on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_lambden Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 No chance we keep Che and sign Stewart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 13 minutes ago, 23rdSaint said: Here's how to embed a Twitter link on iPhone RPReplay_Final1693494485.mov So you have to copy the link from Twitter in a browser? Copying the link from the x app doesn’t work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint NL Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 Che out on loan is stupid, either sell him and reinvest the money or keep him 🤷 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 Strange rumour. Would have to be a way of Wolves fighting FFP with an obligation to sign, considering his contract will be up anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, CSA96 said: https://x.com/jpercytelegraph/status/1697268018504405170?s=46&t=f0hgNyKSvvOD5qjGLJhsXQ (Courtesy Saintsweb Embedding Services) Edited 31 August, 2023 by trousers 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecurnew02 Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 Loan doesn’t even make sense unless he signed a one year extension with us and then Wolves had an obligation to buy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farawaysaint Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 Just now, Saint Matty 76 said: Strange rumour. Would have to be a way of Wolves fighting FFP with an obligation to sign, considering his contract will be up anyway. If they have an obligation to sign then the expense would be upfronted anyway I believe. So I don’t see how it helps FFP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 This actually sounds more like a Wolves version of "look we tried but couldn't quite do it". A half arsed attempt to get Che if ever there was. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winchester Red Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 Yep, no problem. That'll be a £10m loan fee with an obligation to buy at the end of the season for another £10m. Just sign here.... Loan will work just fine under that structure. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 We wouldn’t loan a player out with one year left. Whoever told Percy that hasn’t done their facts or are pissing themselves laughing that he bought it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 Just now, farawaysaint said: If they have an obligation to sign then the expense would be upfronted anyway I believe. So I don’t see how it helps FFP. Honestly god knows how it works. I'm sure they have clever ways of diverting the payment until next year. Either way it'll be disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 1 minute ago, ecurnew02 said: Loan doesn’t even make sense unless he signed a one year extension with us and then Wolves had an obligation to buy exactly, unless the loan fee is pretty much the same as the transfer fee we wanted from Everton which would equally make no sense to me but then the way football clubs seem to be running there finances makes no sense to anyone these days! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintTex Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 found this site on Championship transfers interesting, as it lists a percentage of league starts lost and number of league goals lost due to player outs. https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/23626243.championship-transfer-window-2023-24-every-far/ of the three relegated sides Southampton League starts lost: 158 (38%) League goals lost: 13 Leicester League starts lost: 108 (26%) League goals lost: 29 Leeds League starts lost: 205 (49%) League goals lost: 23 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
23rdSaint Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 7 minutes ago, goodymatt said: So you have to copy the link from Twitter in a browser? Copying the link from the x app doesn’t work. Ah, I guess that's it! I don't use the X app 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 (edited) Only way a loan makes sense is if he signs an extension similar to what AMN did when we loaned him. Even that isn't a particularly great deal from either financial or football perspectives. Edited 31 August, 2023 by revolution saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie May Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 4 minutes ago, Crab Lungs said: We wouldn’t loan a player out with one year left. Whoever told Percy that hasn’t done their facts or are pissing themselves laughing that he bought it. Someone telling Percy porkies? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSA96 Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 11 minutes ago, Appy said: Percy saying Wolves in talks with Adams over loan deal, surely we aren’t letting him go on loan. 1yr extension before he goes and a compulsory purchase based on Wolves staying up? If he doesn’t then we cash in on him next summer instead? It’s the only way I can make a loan make some sense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Saint Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 5 minutes ago, SaintTex said: found this site on Championship transfers interesting, as it lists a percentage of league starts lost and number of league goals lost due to player outs. https://www.eadt.co.uk/sport/23626243.championship-transfer-window-2023-24-every-far/ of the three relegated sides Southampton League starts lost: 158 (38%) League goals lost: 13 Leicester League starts lost: 108 (26%) League goals lost: 29 Leeds League starts lost: 205 (49%) League goals lost: 23 I'd prefer to lose more - not sure if anyone saw but we were fucking awful last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
23rdSaint Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, 23rdSaint said: We do seem very keen to sell/offload Mara Edited 31 August, 2023 by goodymatt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SambaMaverick Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 Just now, goodymatt said: We do seem very keen to sell offload Mara It's because he's shite 8 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 36 minutes ago, 23rdSaint said: Change the "x" to "twitter" before pasting, then wait a couple of seconds for the rich text message to pop up. I did it earlier from an iPhone. A faff, but doable Thanking you And indeed… is a faff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSA96 Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 Ties in with Garrett's info on the French core causing issues and equally, basically all wanting to leave. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 (edited) Random thought: Ché says to Saints: "Ok, I'll sign the new improved 3 year deal on the table but on the condition you loan me out to a Premier League team for the first year and then I'll come back to Saints next season if/when we're promoted" Would that make any sense? Edited 31 August, 2023 by trousers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 I guess if you have Stewart and Che/his replacement, Mara is 3rd choice and even then Armstrong may be preferred up top to him. Mara needs to go somewhere he can play regularly to develop. I’d be happy with a loan to see how he does. Doesn’t seem like anyone is willing to buy atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 1 minute ago, trousers said: Random thought: Ché says to Saints: "Ok, I'll sign the new improved 3 year deal on the table but on the condition you loan me out to a Premier League team for the first year and then I'll come back to Saints next season if/when we're promoted" Would that make any sense? Help us back up or fuck off, Che. Thank you. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 3 minutes ago, goodymatt said: We do seem very keen to sell/offload Mara or Mara does seem keen to leave, so his agent is working very hard to find him a new home. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 3 minutes ago, CSA96 said: Ties in with Garrett's info on the French core causing issues and equally, basically all wanting to leave. 👀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bit of a plonker Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 Didn’t we loan Cedric to Arsenal until the end of his contract or am I not remembering correctly? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintLondon Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 Just now, Bit of a plonker said: Didn’t we loan Cedric to Arsenal until the end of his contract or am I not remembering correctly? Yes but with a £5m loan fee. Basically his worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 4 minutes ago, trousers said: Random thought: Ché says to Saints: "Ok, I'll sign the new improved 3 year deal on the table but on the condition you loan me out to a Premier League team for the first year and then I'll come back to Saints next season if/when we're promoted" Would that make any sense? A loan just makes no sense to us at all. His record / performance in the PL is questionable, at best, if we go up, do we need him as much as we need him now? imo no. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
verlaine1979 Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 Stewart scores goals with both feet, which would be an immediate upgrade on Che. Based on that video, he's not that great one-on-one, as he hit the keeper on both occasions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSA96 Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 3 minutes ago, trousers said: Random thought: Ché says to Saints: "Ok, I'll sign the new improved 3 year deal on the table but on the condition you loan me out to a Premier League team for the first year and then I'll come back to Saints next season if/when we're promoted" Would that make any sense? Probably not. More likely Wolves are in a bind with FFP (given their chairman's public comments) and have said 'what if he signs an extension until 2025 with you so you don't lose him on a free next year, and if we stay up, we'll give you the asking price. If we go down, you can still sell him elsewhere' This theory also works on the basis that Ché has basically told us he's not interested in hanging about and playing any more games in the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dman Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 1 minute ago, Bit of a plonker said: Didn’t we loan Cedric to Arsenal until the end of his contract or am I not remembering correctly? Cedric was / is shit though. Adams would play a key part in us getting promoted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 1 minute ago, Bit of a plonker said: Didn’t we loan Cedric to Arsenal until the end of his contract or am I not remembering correctly? yeah but we got something like a £3m loan fee for the six months he had left. So it was a good deal really something something amortiaisation, something something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSA96 Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 3 minutes ago, trousers said: Random thought: Ché says to Saints: "Ok, I'll sign the new improved 3 year deal on the table but on the condition you loan me out to a Premier League team for the first year and then I'll come back to Saints next season if/when we're promoted" No chance. He becomes a free agent next summer - and that means no transfer fee for a Prem side and bigger wages for him. He ain't jeopardizing that with a contract with a Championship side that will be less appealing than the ones he turned down while we were in the Prem. The only reason he signs a new deal with us is if zero prem sides have shown any interest in signing him this summer. Pretty sure Everton have, so he will be confident iof getting a deal next year when the fee required is £0. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 It's trading time!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SotonianWill Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 1 minute ago, CSA96 said: Lovely stuff if Lavia type price inflation is to come between Bayern and BVB 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Neil Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 2 minutes ago, SotonianWill said: Lovely stuff if Lavia type price inflation is to come between Bayern and BVB Think he has a release clause, so no bidding war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 2 hours ago, Saint Matty 76 said: Not sure if this has already been posted, but one of the neutral Football League accounts posted this about an hour back - Sounds like a Ricky Lambert type centre forward. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 2 minutes ago, CSA96 said: I am hoping all this ABK movement/offer etc. happened earlier in the week/last week (with reporters now catching up with these stories - hence us making bids for Woods and possibly THB) and the deal is pretty much done. It feels bloody late in the day for Bayern to join the party and start making bids (although obviously welcome). I think we are going to get what we want for him and not be pressured to loan him out for buttons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 1 minute ago, saintant said: Sounds like a Ricky Lambert type centre forward. Maybe, but Ricky scored goals from everywhere - he struck the ball beautifully. This fella is more of a tap in merchant. Ricky didn't play on the shoulder or make runs through leaving him one on one with keepers. I don't see the similarities myself. If he scores a similar number of goals, we will be golden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 1 hour ago, CSA96 said: Wonder if this is a way of us getting Everton to bridge to our valuation on Sulemana? I guess we'll sign Bobby Ball to partner him - should be a good double act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 The Championship equivalent of signing Kevin Keegan I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 31 August, 2023 Share Posted 31 August, 2023 4 minutes ago, St. Neil said: Think he has a release clause, so no bidding war. Possibly. What's the amount? The reports seem a little unsure. Dortmund clearly haven't activated it, so a bidding war will increase the figure being offered. I assume we'll accept if the total amount gets close to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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