SaintsFan86 Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 :) 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osvaldorama Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 28 minutes ago, beavis17 said: Seems weird we won’t just go and pay the 15mil. Especially as the Wood bids were rejected. Seems a much better option at that price 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 Mental we’re not just paying up for this kid. What’s the problem? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 1 minute ago, Osvaldorama said: Seems weird we won’t just go and pay the 15mil. Especially as the Wood bids were rejected. Seems a much better option at that price Maybe he doesn't want to go permenently to a championship club? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 21 minutes ago, Badger said: From what I’ve read on here, he hasn’t played since January, and might not be available until October. All in all seems a gamble. Has the hallmarks of being up there with the signings of Charlie George and Augustin Delgado. Perhaps it’ll be a return to the David Connolly days, potentially being our best striker bar none if he doesn’t spend time in the treatment room. Will take a slight issue with your mention of Charlie George in the same sentence as Delgado. Yes, Charlie didn’t play too much for us, but when he did oh boy what a player. But that may be clouded by my schoolboy memories of being in love with football and with the saints teams of those times! 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 Just now, Golac's Cunning Stunts said: Will take a slight issue with your mention of Charlie George in the same sentence as Delgado. Yes, Charlie didn’t play too much for us, but when he did oh boy what a player. But that may be clouded by my schoolboy memories of being in love with football and with the saints teams of those times! 👍👍👍 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvSFC Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 Harwood-Bellis would be a phenomenal signing. Maybe he doesn't want to commit to us on a permanent in the Championship, but I'd be disappointed if we didn't include an option to buy dependant on promotion in the deal. He'd be one of the signing's of the summer in the Championship either way. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 3 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said: Seems weird we won’t just go and pay the 15mil. Especially as the Wood bids were rejected. Seems a much better option at that price I think the buy-back clause might be putting potential suitors off. Rumoured to be "only" £35m. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 (edited) Welp, sorry Nixon. Absolutely love that signing and it means I'd not be fussed if ABK goes in the last couple days, it'd just be a nice additional bonus if he does stay. Fingers crossed there's a buy option in there as well. Edited 30 August, 2023 by Saint Matty 76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 Insane signing - yes? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 8 minutes ago, SaintsFan86 said: This would be sensational, I suppose this is instead of Wood in this case, Id imagine because Swansea were playing hardball 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 1 minute ago, Smirking_Saint said: This would be sensational, I suppose this is instead of Wood in this case, Id imagine because Swansea were playing hardball Will work out for the better for us if we end up with Harwood-Bellis surely 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 I'm sure there would be 100% agreement that that would be an excellent signing. Don't want to get my hopes up yet but would be great. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 6 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: Insane signing - yes? Yes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disconnect Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 Harwood-Bellis in with Holgate, and ABK staying, whilst shifting Caleta-Car, Lyanco and 'higher level' Janny B would be the dream scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 So Stephens (who has to start when fit as captain), Bednarek, Holgate and THB, jeez that’s a tough one to pick two from. Suspect we’ll let ABK go on loan. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 Don't want to get my hopes up on this one, but he would be one heck of a signing for us. I'd have been happy with him as a PL side, surprised he hasn't had any takers. Rolls Royce of a CB imo. Suits our style down to the ground. I hope we include an option. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 Harwood-Bellis, Stephens, Bednarek, Holgate and possibly ABK. Not a bad choice of CB's for this league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 Just now, disconnect said: Harwood-Bellis in with Holgate, and ABK staying, whilst shifting Caleta-Car, Lyanco and 'higher level' Janny B would be the dream scenario. Cannot see how ABK stays if we sign another CB. ABK expects, probably rightfully, to be first choice at this level. But so will Harwood-Bellis and Holgate, who we've signed on loan - would be top heavy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 6 minutes ago, Golac's Cunning Stunts said: Will take a slight issue with your mention of Charlie George in the same sentence as Delgado. Yes, Charlie didn’t play too much for us, but when he did oh boy what a player. But that may be clouded by my schoolboy memories of being in love with football and with the saints teams of those times! Yes, definitely a class player and a cut above Delgado I agree. But as I recall he was our record signing at the time, so that doesn't really sit comfortably with the bit I've highlighted in your post. I think we signed him in the December, and I'm not sure if we saw him play that season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osvaldorama Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 2 minutes ago, disconnect said: Harwood-Bellis in with Holgate, and ABK staying, whilst shifting Caleta-Car, Lyanco and 'higher level' Janny B would be the dream scenario. Our options would genuinely be better than last year when we were still in the PL if we pulled that off 😂 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkoksaint Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 11 minutes ago, Golac's Cunning Stunts said: Will take a slight issue with your mention of Charlie George in the same sentence as Delgado. Yes, Charlie didn’t play too much for us, but when he did oh boy what a player. But that may be clouded by my schoolboy memories of being in love with football and with the saints teams of those times! I can still remember an iconic photo of Lawrie CG, KK and MC standing on the pitch at the Dell - was there another player too? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 2 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Cannot see how ABK stays if we sign another CB. ABK expects, probably rightfully, to be first choice at this level. But so will Harwood-Bellis and Holgate, who we've signed on loan - would be top heavy. If this happens, could we see a surprise departure...Bednarek? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErwinK1961 Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 1 minute ago, S-Clarke said: Cannot see how ABK stays if we sign another CB. ABK expects, probably rightfully, to be first choice at this level. But so will Harwood-Bellis and Holgate, who we've signed on loan - would be top heavy. This, he’ll be offski. Perhaps Wood is off as we haven’t banked money for ABK so letting him go on loan, hence only a loan for THB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 Just now, AlexLaw76 said: If this happens, could we see a surprise departure...Bednarek? Stranger things have happened, he seems settled, but he has experience that may tempt sides across Europe to sniff at on deadline day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 Just now, ErwinK1961 said: Perhaps Wood is off as we haven’t banked money for ABK so letting him go on loan, hence only a loan for THB. I doubt it's as cut and dry as that, I think Swansea are just playing silly buggers as they did with Martin. We probably feel it's risky to be playing games with them so late in the window, as you know they'll end up changing the goalposts at the 11th hr and leave us snookered. Harwood-Bellis is a better option anyway if it happens (IMO) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 45 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said: Im more happy that it significantly weakens Leicester… although I wonder if they’ll move for Stewart ? Or who else is available to them ? I was at both Leicester games last year and the only reason we won was because this guy couldn't hit a barn door from 2 yards. Sadly, I think they'll have someone better in that position when we play them in a couple of weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitch01 Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 Shame it's only a loan - he'll be picked off by someone else in a year no doubt. Still, super player to have at this level. Reckon that means Bednarek is off. He can't have Stephens, Holgate and THB in front of him in the Championship. Not sure where it leaves ABK at all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Scott Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 19 minutes ago, HarvSFC said: Harwood-Bellis would be a phenomenal signing. Maybe he doesn't want to commit to us on a permanent in the Championship, but I'd be disappointed if we didn't include an option to buy dependant on promotion in the deal. He'd be one of the signing's of the summer in the Championship either way. Do we need an option? I thought he only had 12 months left on his deal? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 Just now, Saint Scott said: Do we need an option? I thought he only had 12 months left on his deal? Yep it does - good spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 16 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said: Harwood-Bellis, Stephens, Bednarek, Holgate and possibly ABK. Not a bad choice of CB's for this league. I'd have preferred that last year to be honest. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 4 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Yep it does - good spot. There was talk of them extending it for a year so they still own him - can’t see them loaning out a good prospect and letting him go for free next year. Imagine announcement of his departure will be accompanied by a contract extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 5 minutes ago, Saint Scott said: Do we need an option? I thought he only had 12 months left on his deal? Correct, but I'm not sure why City would loan him for his last season - surely it makes sense for them to take the best offer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris Karloff Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 Strange that Lavia still not featuring for Chelsea. They say he's not injured but just not match fit. Would have thought EFL trophy would be perfect opportunity. Did he not train with us at all? I wouldn't be very happy paying £58m for a player who turns up totally out of shape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 25 minutes ago, HarvSFC said: Harwood-Bellis would be a phenomenal signing. Maybe he doesn't want to commit to us on a permanent in the Championship, but I'd be disappointed if we didn't include an option to buy dependant on promotion in the deal. He'd be one of the signing's of the summer in the Championship either way. Agreed great signing, winner, been there done it in the championship and great prospect. Hopefully we’ve got an option to buy if we get promoted. He was always my preferred choice but thought he’d go to the premier league given he’s proven he can do it in the championship 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 why didn't Burnely go back for Harwood-Bellis? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 Just now, saintwbu said: There was talk of them extending it for a year so they still own him - can’t see them loaning out a good prospect and letting him go for free next year. Imagine announcement of his departure will be accompanied by a contract extension. I reckon it'll be like the AMN loan we did last year - they agree a new contract with him, which kicks in next summer if they decide - then send him out on loan. If it doesn't work out, as was the case with AMN, they don't activate that new contract and let him walk as originally planned. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 Just now, Chez said: why didn't Burnely go back for Harwood-Bellis? Much more limited for loans in The Premer League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 32 minutes ago, DT said: Mental we’re not just paying up for this kid. What’s the problem? Might be more protracted trying to buy outright than a tie up a loan this late in the window. Would hope for an option to buy at end of season though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 20 minutes ago, ErwinK1961 said: So Stephens (who has to start when fit as captain), Bednarek, Holgate and THB, jeez that’s a tough one to pick two from. Suspect we’ll let ABK go on loan. Lascelles at Newcastle is club captain but doesn’t always play. I’d wager if we keep ABK and sign this new lad, that will be the first choice pairing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 30 August, 2023 Author Share Posted 30 August, 2023 We have to include an option to buy, I’m sure our special relationship with Man City will work wonders. A third loan with no option to buy would be disappointing. I’m not sure Bednarek would leave unless a stupid bud was out in now, more likely that ABK will be loaned out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 1 minute ago, Chez said: why didn't Burnely go back for Harwood-Bellis? They may have, who knows. Alternatively, it could that he's felt good enough for the championship, but not quite PL ready, at least not yet. Regardless, he'd be brilliant for us but I'm not sure where that leaves others - no room (or need) for all of them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 (edited) Dortmund move ahead of Bayern in race for Bella-Kotchap Borussia Dortmund have moved ahead of Bayern Munich in the race to sign Southampton defender Armel Bella-Kotchap, according to Sky in Germany. Bayern’s focus on signing Chelsea’s Trevoh Chalobah to bolster their defensive options has given Dortmund the chance to step up their pursuit of Bella-Kotchap. Sky Germany’s Florian Plettenberg reports that the Bella-Kotchap deal still has a way to go, though. Dortmund’s proposal includes a £6.8m loan fee with a £17.2m obligation to buy next summer, plus at least another £4m in bonus payments. Bella-Kotchap, 21, is yet to feature for Southampton this season because of injury. A £28m deal for ABK? That's too good to turn down, surely. Edited 30 August, 2023 by S-Clarke 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 1 minute ago, Badger said: Might be more protracted trying to buy outright than a tie up a loan this late in the window. Would hope for an option to buy at end of season though We had similar with Bertrand a few years back and signed him permanently in the January window 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 1 minute ago, FarehamSaintJames said: We have to include an option to buy, I’m sure our special relationship with Man City will work wonders. A third loan with no option to buy would be disappointing. I’m not sure Bednarek would leave unless a stupid bud was out in now, more likely that ABK will be loaned out. Honestly a transfer would be nice but will you care if we go up? I know I won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 1 minute ago, FarehamSaintJames said: We have to include an option to buy, I’m sure our special relationship with Man City will work wonders. A third loan with no option to buy would be disappointing. I’m not sure Bednarek would leave unless a stupid bud was out in now, more likely that ABK will be loaned out. As he's out of contract next summer, there's little point in including any option tbh. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint NL Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 The window is heating up 🔥🔥🔥 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 3 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Dortmund move ahead of Bayern in race for Bella-Kotchap Borussia Dortmund have moved ahead of Bayern Munich in the race to sign Southampton defender Armel Bella-Kotchap, according to Sky in Germany. Bayern’s focus on signing Chelsea’s Trevoh Chalobah to bolster their defensive options has given Dortmund the chance to step up their pursuit of Bella-Kotchap. Sky Germany’s Florian Plettenberg reports that the Bella-Kotchap deal still has a way to go, though. Dortmund’s proposal includes a £6.8m loan fee with a £17.2m obligation to buy next summer, plus at least another £4m in bonus payments. Bella-Kotchap, 21, is yet to feature for Southampton this season because of injury. A £28m deal for ABK? That's too good to turn down, surely. Get it done good deal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maggie May Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 I don’t know anything about Harwood-Bellis. Genuine question, is he better than ABK? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 30 August, 2023 Share Posted 30 August, 2023 7 minutes ago, Turkish said: Agreed great signing, winner, been there done it in the championship and great prospect. Hopefully we’ve got an option to buy if we get promoted. He was always my preferred choice but thought he’d go to the premier league given he’s proven he can do it in the championship My lad who follows league far more than me was raving all summer he is one we should sign. Lots of opposition for this one just hope it’s not Piroe mk2 and we dilly dally 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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