Summer Transfer Window 2023

[Toadhall Saint]

27 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Good enough to be our Che adams replacement? 

I think so not Duk but thx other guy

[hypochondriac]

Just now, Toadhall Saint said:

I think so not Duk but thx other guy

Quite a few mixed messages about which one is better. 

[MarkSFC]

14 minutes ago, Saint_Ash said:

Exactly. Twitter, or X, is full of these chancers. If we have to sign someone by Friday we'll obviously have a medical lined up 😆

How you doing mate?😂😂

[hypochondriac]

5 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Why? They've been Lutons first choice RB's the past two seasons. No reason why they aren't good enough for us. Not sure Bree fully suits the style but ability wise they are more than capable at this level.

I think the main thing is if they can play the inverted full back role that Martin wants. 

[AlexLaw76]

5 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Why? They've been Lutons first choice RB's the past two seasons. No reason why they aren't good enough for us. Not sure Bree fully suits the style but ability wise they are more than capable at this level.

If Bree does not suit our style of play, why would the other Luton RB?

[Turkish]

43 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Luis Duk. Is he any good does anyone know? 

crap in the air, every time a cross comes in when they put a name on it he lowers his head.

[Toadhall Saint]

5 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Quite a few mixed messages about which one is better. 

I’ve not seen either in the flesh but BM had a lot of attributes that we need if Che goes. looks like a proper no 9. All imo of course.

Edited 29 August, 2023 by Toadhall Saint

[hypochondriac]

Interesting question in twitter. If you had the choice would you rather keep the rest of the players now but not sign anyone else or buy and sell players as normal. I think I'd go for the first option given the choice. 

[Harry_SFC]

14 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Why? They've been Lutons first choice RB's the past two seasons. No reason why they aren't good enough for us. Not sure Bree fully suits the style but ability wise they are more than capable at this level.

Let's be honest, Bree is an ok player but he doesn't look comfortable in this system at all, so will never be first choice.

Drameh got subbed on and then off again after 20 minutes because he was so poor at the weekend. I know it's only 1 game but doesn't fill you with confidence. 

Edited 29 August, 2023 by Harry_SFC

[Chez]

7 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Interesting question in twitter. If you had the choice would you rather keep the rest of the players now but not sign anyone else or buy and sell players as normal. I think I'd go for the first option given the choice. 

Keeping KWP, ABK, Sulemana and Che would be brilliant, assuming all aren't totally fucked off with the club for stopping them move to bigger and better paid things. 

We don't get better when replacing KWP. 

Totally understand should some/all depart though.

Edited 29 August, 2023 by Chez

[Toadhall Saint]

5 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

Let's be honest, Bree is an ok player but he doesn't look comfortable in this system at all, so will never be first choice.

Drameh got subbed on and then off again after 20 minutes because he was so poor at the weekend. I know it's only 1 game but doesn't fill you with confidence. 

Dramas was played at LB when he came on and Farke said he was to blame for that.

[saintant]

Just now, Toadhall Saint said:

Dramas was played at LB when he came on and Farke said he was to blame for that.

Well, he would say that if they want to get rid of him.

[The Kraken]

5 minutes ago, Chez said:

Keeping KWP, ABK, Sulemana and Che would be brilliant, assuming all aren't totally fucked off with the club for stopping them move to bigger and better paid things. 

We don't get better when replacing KWP. 

Totally understand should some/all depart though.

This. 100% would prefer what we’ve got to any more selling/replacing. Can’t believe there’s anyone (sensible) who would prefer otherwise. But the reality is that it’ll be the latter, so we’ll see what happens.

[FarehamSaintJames]

45 minutes ago, Saint_Ash said:

I for one believe MaxLeeTransfers, he sounds legit and has his finger on the pulse. 

Almost as accurate as SaintMartin, SaintRob and SaintAlex is the Twittersphere of waffle. 😂

[FarehamSaintJames]

17 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Interesting question in twitter. If you had the choice would you rather keep the rest of the players now but not sign anyone else or buy and sell players as normal. I think I'd go for the first option given the choice. 

Keep who we have, sign no one else.

I’d feel confident we’ve got enough about us to have a real challenge.

[SNSUN]

17 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Interesting question in twitter. If you had the choice would you rather keep the rest of the players now but not sign anyone else or buy and sell players as normal. I think I'd go for the first option given the choice. 

I think I'd want another CB if Stephens is out long term. Yes Charles can play there but essentially if we don't bring Wood (or another CB) in then we are going into the no-Stephens period with just Jan and Holgate as CBs (aside from youngsters). Other than that I'd be happy with the squad as it is. 

[woodsaint1]

29 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Why? They've been Lutons first choice RB's the past two seasons. No reason why they aren't good enough for us. Not sure Bree fully suits the style but ability wise they are more than capable at this level.

Drameh came on as a 24th minute sub against Ipswich on saturday.

First bit of pressure he faced he gave a no look pass back to the keeper which was intercepted and Ipswich scored.

Farke then hooked him off at halftime because he said he couldnt handle the pace of Wes Burns.

Yep, he seems to be exactly what we need for our possession based system

[Fabrice29]

27 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

If Bree does not suit our style of play, why would the other Luton RB?

Two very different players. The very little I saw of Drameh last season reminded me of Tino a little bit, aggressive defending 1 on 1 and an athlete. 

[The Kraken]

4 minutes ago, SNSUN said:

I think I'd want another CB if Stephens is out long term. Yes Charles can play there but essentially if we don't bring Wood (or another CB) in then we are going into the no-Stephens period with just Jan and Holgate as CBs (aside from youngsters). Other than that I'd be happy with the squad as it is. 

You get ABK if the squad stays as is.

[Fabrice29]

2 minutes ago, woodsaint1 said:

Drameh came on as a 24th minute sub against Ipswich on saturday.

First bit of pressure he faced he gave a no look pass back to the keeper which was intercepted and Ipswich scored.

Farke then hooked him off at halftime because he said he couldnt handle the pace of Wes Burns.

Yep, he seems to be exactly what we need for our possession based system

He's got a whole body of evidence about him you could look at but if you want to be lazy and go for his most recent twenty minute spell then good for you.

Edited 29 August, 2023 by Fabrice29

[SNSUN]

Just now, The Kraken said:

You get ABK if the squad stays as is.

Ah of course - I've already got him on the "out" list in my head!

[saintant]

Just now, The Kraken said:

You get ABK if the squad stays as is.

Think ABK and KWP will be gone.

[The Kraken]

Just now, SNSUN said:

Ah of course - I've already got him on the "out" list in my head!

Me too! Wishful thinking gets us nowhere 😉

[hypochondriac]

6 minutes ago, SNSUN said:

I think I'd want another CB if Stephens is out long term. Yes Charles can play there but essentially if we don't bring Wood (or another CB) in then we are going into the no-Stephens period with just Jan and Holgate as CBs (aside from youngsters). Other than that I'd be happy with the squad as it is. 

That's not what was asked though. Go into the season with the squad as it is or buy and sell as usual? 

[hypochondriac]

Just now, saintant said:

Think ABK and KWP will be gone.

People don't understand hypotheticals... 

[HnycS]

11 minutes ago, Chez said:

Keeping KWP, ABK, Sulemana and Che would be brilliant, assuming all aren't totally fucked off with the club for stopping them move to bigger and better paid things. 

We don't get better when replacing KWP. 

Totally understand should some/all depart though.

Think ABK and Sulemana are recovering from injuries (supposedly) so might well have to prove their fitness before anyone is prepared to offer a contract. Guess Saints coud loan them to reduce wages, but probably better to keep them at least until Xmas window. If they play well Saints could get extra points and their value will increase. ABK from what I saw is a PL level player so if his shoulder is repaired would be worth keeping if promotion looks viable, rumaours of him going to a Geram club make sense.  Sulemana who knows, only really had one good game when the pressure was off, if Saints could get a little more than they paid for him I think it might be best to ship him on with a sell on in case he turns into a valuable asset.

[The Kraken]

Just now, saintant said:

Think ABK and KWP will be gone.

Me too, but that’s not the answer to the fantasy theoretical question.

[Harry_SFC]

Ross Stewart back on the cards according to an ITK from up North. 

[SaintsFan86]

 

[SNSUN]

1 minute ago, hypochondriac said:

That's not what was asked though. Go into the season with the squad as it is or buy and sell as usual? 

Well now Kraken reminded me that we still have ABK then definitely keep the squad. I highly doubt that if we sell Sulemana, ABK, KWP and Adams (all very likely still) that we will bring in players of the same quality, so it's a no-brainer. 

[Toadhall Saint]

30 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Interesting question in twitter. If you had the choice would you rather keep the rest of the players now but not sign anyone else or buy and sell players as normal. I think I'd go for the first option given the choice. 

Stick

[hypochondriac]

2 minutes ago, SaintsFan86 said:

 

If this is our Adams replacement then this could derail our season given how many vital games we have in the next month or two. Will we even know for sure that his injury hasn't affected his game? 

[Dusic]

7 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Two very different players. The very little I saw of Drameh last season reminded me of Tino a little bit, aggressive defending 1 on 1 and an athlete. 

Interestingly on the Coaches Voice video with RM talking through the Swansea double over Cardiff when he was there he actually spoke quite a bit about Drameh who was playing for Cardiff at RB. Was raving about how athletic he is and that he is a very good presser (and how they actually played around him because he was always drawn forward to press). He also said they targeted their build up to the Cardiff left side because Drameh was strong on the right.

Certainly seems a fan of his, and his numbers are actually pretty decent.

https://fbref.com/en/players/e0d1510a/scout/365_m2/Cody-Drameh-Scouting-Report

 

 

[Sheaf Saint]

Just now, hypochondriac said:

If this is our Adams replacement then this could derail our season given how many vital games we have in the next month or two. Will we even know for sure that his injury hasn't affected his game? 

I trust we would do a thorough medical before agreeing to sign him.

Many people on here told us Ings would be a waste of money because he was a busted flush following his major injuries. Our medical team obviously knew better.

[coalman]

8 minutes ago, SaintsFan86 said:

 

That might represent our best chance for this weekends game

[woodsaint1]

6 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

He's got a whole body of evidence about him you could look at but if you want to be lazy and go for his most recent twenty minute spell then good for you.

So his current form isnt relevant?

To be sub subbed is pretty embarassing. And now a promotion rival is happy to move him on because they dont rate him highly enough.

He doesnt improve us and would be a massive downgrade on KWP if thats what we're thinking

[Sheaf Saint]

8 minutes ago, SaintsFan86 said:

 

This could just be a classic Mourinho style tactic of unsettling a player with a transfer rumour just before he's about to play against us.

[hypochondriac]

Just now, Sheaf Saint said:

This could just be a classic Mourinho style tactic of unsettling a player with a transfer rumour just before he's about to play against us.

He isn't about to play against us. 

[Sheaf Saint]

Just now, hypochondriac said:

He isn't about to play against us. 

Is he still injured then?

[Fabrice29]

Just now, woodsaint1 said:

So his current form isnt relevant?

To be sub subbed is pretty embarassing. And now a promotion rival is happy to move him on because they dont rate him highly enough.

He doesnt improve us and would be a massive downgrade on KWP if thats what we're thinking

Alcaraz had a piss poor 60 minutes on Saturday, you writing him off based on his current form as well?  

[Chez]

4 minutes ago, Dusic said:

Interestingly on the Coaches Voice video with RM talking through the Swansea double over Cardiff when he was there he actually spoke quite a bit about Drameh who was playing for Cardiff at RB. Was raving about how athletic he is and that he is a very good presser (and how they actually played around him because he was always drawn forward to press). He also said they targeted their build up to the Cardiff left side because Drameh was strong on the right.

Certainly seems a fan of his, and his numbers are actually pretty decent.

https://fbref.com/en/players/e0d1510a/scout/365_m2/Cody-Drameh-Scouting-Report

Cardiff POTS probably don't go unnoticed by Swansea scouts too.

[Chez]

5 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

I trust we would do a thorough medical before agreeing to sign him.

Many people on here told us Ings would be a waste of money because he was a busted flush following his major injuries. Our medical team obviously knew better.

are players actually injury prone, or is it just bad luck that they get multiple injuries over a period of time?

[Harry_SFC]

Just now, Fabrice29 said:

Alcaraz had a piss poor 60 minutes on Saturday, you writing him off based on his current form as well?  

Just out of interest, did Luton try and re-sign him for this season?

[hypochondriac]

4 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Is he still injured then?

Yes. I think I read that he's likely to be back around October which is obviously a problem (maybe match fit by November.)

[SuperSAINT]

36 minutes ago, Dusic said:

Interestingly on the Coaches Voice video with RM talking through the Swansea double over Cardiff when he was there he actually spoke quite a bit about Drameh who was playing for Cardiff at RB. Was raving about how athletic he is and that he is a very good presser (and how they actually played around him because he was always drawn forward to press). He also said they targeted their build up to the Cardiff left side because Drameh was strong on the right.

Certainly seems a fan of his, and his numbers are actually pretty decent.

https://fbref.com/en/players/e0d1510a/scout/365_m2/Cody-Drameh-Scouting-Report

Interesting.  KWP is a cheat-code in this league — but Drameh is a really good championship right-back. 

Edited 29 August, 2023 by SuperSAINT

[Fabrice29]

7 minutes ago, Dusic said:

Interestingly on the Coaches Voice video with RM talking through the Swansea double over Cardiff when he was there he actually spoke quite a bit about Drameh who was playing for Cardiff at RB. Was raving about how athletic he is and that he is a very good presser (and how they actually played around him because he was always drawn forward to press). He also said they targeted their build up to the Cardiff left side because Drameh was strong on the right.

Certainly seems a fan of his, and his numbers are actually pretty decent.

https://fbref.com/en/players/e0d1510a/scout/365_m2/Cody-Drameh-Scouting-Report

 

 

Yeah he's been highly rated for a while and has proven himself at this level. No idea why Leeds don't fancy him but they have a weird obsession over Luke Ayling. 

[woodsaint1]

3 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Alcaraz had a piss poor 60 minutes on Saturday, you writing him off based on his current form as well?  

Didnt realise Alcaraz was sub subbed and is being replaced by a new signing because we dont think hes good enough

[saintant]

10 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

If this is our Adams replacement then this could derail our season given how many vital games we have in the next month or two. Will we even know for sure that his injury hasn't affected his game? 

Great player but this is my concern as well. We have a crucial run of tough games and I wouldn't want to be going into them with Che gone and his replacement on the treatment table. Even when fit he'll need time to get up to speed. It's a tricky one because he does look exactly the sort of striker we need.

[Sheaf Saint]

1 minute ago, hypochondriac said:

Yes. I think I read that he's likely to be back around October which is obviously a problem (maybe match fit by November.)

Ah. Didn't realise. Yeah that could be problematic, especially if we do sell Che and he is being signed as the replacement. 

[SaintLondon]

Been away all day in meetings - just home. What have I missed? All good news I trust..