saintant Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 43 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Looking back at our last championship squad you had Lambert who played the vast majority of games, but you also had backup with Billy Sharp, Tadanari Lee and David Connolly. If we somehow manage to keep Adams then we will be hoping he will play the Lambert role (play the majority of games and score a load of goals) but I am not sure we have the depth beyond that. Arguably Armstrong can get similar figures to someone like Lallana but it would be great if Mara coukd hit some sort of form, otherwise it may be tough without another reliable goalscorer. This is my issue. Whether Che goes or stays we need 2 good options for his role. For me if he stays we need to sign one striker and, if he goes, we need to sign two. I don't think we currently have anyone at the club good enough to play what I would call the strikers role apart from Che. The QPR game highlighted this - we tried AA up top and it was hopeless but improved marginally when we brought Mara on and dropped AA back. Unfortunately Mara is not yet good enough so, if Adams stays we still need a decent back up striker to cover when he is unavailable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 Out of interest what is the average Championship wage? £10K a week? Or is much lower than that. I thought I read Flynn Downes is on £25K a week. And that Everton were paying a large % of Holgates wages (£70K a week) which I took to mean we would be paying about £35K a week for him as well. I would have thought it was a similar deal with Ryan Fraser. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 32 minutes ago, miserableoldgit said: I have been out all day....any actual transfer "news?" Check again on Friday - I've a feeling it's going to be squeaky bum time for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 Just now, Rebel said: Out of interest what is the average Championship wage? £10K a week? Or is much lower than that. I thought I read Flynn Downes is on £25K a week. And that Everton were paying a large % of Holgates wages (£70K a week) which I took to mean we would be paying about £35K a week for him as well. I would have thought it was a similar deal with Ryan Fraser. I suppose the advantage of a loan is that if we don't go up we don't have a load of people on high wages weighing down our wage bill. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 34 minutes ago, miserableoldgit said: I have been out all day....any actual transfer "news?" there are a couple of amazing places you can go if you just want news Home | Southampton FC Official Site Southampton FC News | Latest Saints Transfer News - NewsNow however if you want ITKs, gossip, chatter and world class banter then here is your place. 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 6 minutes ago, Rebel said: average Championship wage? 32k apparently. https://footballcollective.org.uk/general/how-much-do-championship-players-earn/ 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 I actually thought Mara had a good game on Saturday and made a big difference when he came on. He led the line OK and occupied the QPR centre backs allowing Adarma to drop deep and creating the space for him to run in to. He gave us a bit of pace and presence upfront. His quick thinking free kick also put Fraser through on goal. If we sell Adams - and I think we will - I would still want him replaced though. I'd be happy with Bojan Mioviski from Aberdeen to replace Adams and Andi Zeqiri from Brighton to replace Tella. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 15 minutes ago, saintant said: This is my issue. Whether Che goes or stays we need 2 good options for his role. For me if he stays we need to sign one striker and, if he goes, we need to sign two. I don't think we currently have anyone at the club good enough to play what I would call the strikers role apart from Che. The QPR game highlighted this - we tried AA up top and it was hopeless but improved marginally when we brought Mara on and dropped AA back. Unfortunately Mara is not yet good enough so, if Adams stays we still need a decent back up striker to cover when he is unavailable. Should we expect the reserve central forward to be better than AA/Mara in the championship? Isn't the reserve striker always worse than the first choice? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Chez said: Should we expect the reserve central forward to be better than AA/Mara in the championship? Isn't the reserve striker always worse than the first choice? Is Mara capable of 9 goals in 11 starts (15 total) like Billy Sharp? I doubt it personally. Edited 29 August, 2023 by hypochondriac 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 27 minutes ago, Rebel said: Out of interest what is the average Championship wage? £10K a week? Or is much lower than that. I thought I read Flynn Downes is on £25K a week. And that Everton were paying a large % of Holgates wages (£70K a week) which I took to mean we would be paying about £35K a week for him as well. I would have thought it was a similar deal with Ryan Fraser. Seen Fraser reportedly on 63k a week, guess we are paying half that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 1 minute ago, Chez said: Should we expect the reserve central forward to be better than AA/Mara in the championship? Isn't the reserve striker always worse than the first choice? I would suggest AA is not a replacement for Che as proved against QPR and Mara is not yet good enough. If we rely of one striker in the role that Che plays that's a huge risk if said striker picks up an injury/suspension or loses form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 1 minute ago, hypochondriac said: Is Mara capable of 9 goals in 11 starts (15 total) like Billy Sharp? I doubt it personally. Try putting a zero on the starts and he might just make it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Rebel said: Out of interest what is the average Championship wage? £10K a week? Or is much lower than that. I thought I read Flynn Downes is on £25K a week. And that Everton were paying a large % of Holgates wages (£70K a week) which I took to mean we would be paying about £35K a week for him as well. I would have thought it was a similar deal with Ryan Fraser. already been answered by the esteemed gentleman further up Edited 29 August, 2023 by Convict Colony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 1 minute ago, Convict Colony said: Seen Fraser reportedly on 63k a week, guess we are paying half that £63k a week sounds in the realms of possibilities. It's just a guess by Everton fans that we are paying half of Holgates wages and then the same percentage (50%) is now being used for Fraser. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint NL Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 one of the all time classic bad transfers by Chelsea 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 5 minutes ago, saintant said: I would suggest AA is not a replacement for Che as proved against QPR and Mara is not yet good enough. If we rely of one striker in the role that Che plays that's a huge risk if said striker picks up an injury/suspension or loses form. if your best player in a position gets injured, you are obviously going to downgrade. But can you have someone like say Piroe on the bench waiting for Che to get injured? I guess he could be coming on and pushing Che for a starting place or even play as a two at times. You could well be right though about our strength in depth though. AA is not convincing down the middle and Mara needs to step up. I just wonder if crosses from Fraser will suit his game. The goal against City came from a good low cross. Could those two work well maybe? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 2 minutes ago, Saint NL said: one of the all time classic bad transfers by Chelsea He's a good solid left back. But £60m. Fuck off. Mental price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 1 minute ago, Chez said: He's a good solid left back. But £60m. Fuck off. Mental price. I've seen nothing since he's been at chelsea that says he's 60m. Sometimes the teams system makes players better than they actually are. Also his hair is so fucking annoying and i have hair myself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 https://x.com/transferzone00/status/1696560677580689905?s=46&t=MqpubAzkQD51r3m_v775zw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manji Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 5 hours ago, Smirking_Saint said: For about the 9000th time… its not breathtaking, its a usual occurrence to relegated sides And we’re in exactly the same position as Leicester and Leeds and previously Burnley etc 90001 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 2 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said: https://x.com/transferzone00/status/1696560677580689905?s=46&t=MqpubAzkQD51r3m_v775zw Please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 (edited) ignore Edited 29 August, 2023 by Convict Colony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 Danny Ings could be available on loan. Now that would be amazing 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 3 minutes ago, davefizzy14 said: Danny Ings could be available on loan. Now that would be amazing He’s coming home… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 1 minute ago, Wade Garrett said: He’s coming home… Are you ITK? 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 3 minutes ago, davefizzy14 said: Danny Ings could be available on loan. Now that would be amazing Surely off to whoever doesn't get Adams? Wolves, Fulham or Bournemouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 Just now, hypochondriac said: Surely off to whoever doesn't get Adams? Wolves, Fulham or Bournemouth. Who has the better access to hair transplant companies ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 Just now, Convict Colony said: Who has the better access to hair transplant companies ? Goztepe 👀 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 1 minute ago, davefizzy14 said: Are you ITK? 😉 No, I’m not in the Circle of Twats. 1 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 4 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said: No, I’m not in the Circle of Twats. Are you sure ? 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Timmier Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 Following the exit of Lyanco, a return for Ings would make a lot of sense from a tattoo perspective 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 7 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said: Are you sure ? Good point 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 Poor lyon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 1 hour ago, Turkish said: there are a couple of amazing places you can go if you just want news Home | Southampton FC Official Site Southampton FC News | Latest Saints Transfer News - NewsNow however if you want ITKs, gossip, chatter and world class banter then here is your place. underrated post 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12456721/Germany-Nadiem-Amiri-Leeds.html Lol. I hope we only show our prospective new signings Ocean Village Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 9 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Poor lyon To top it all off they have Dejan Lovren. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNSUN Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 1 minute ago, Pamplemousse said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12456721/Germany-Nadiem-Amiri-Leeds.html Lol. I hope we only show our prospective new signings Ocean Village Just fudge it and say most of Southampton is the New Forest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 6 minutes ago, SNSUN said: Just fudge it and say most of Southampton is the New Forest. Loads of the players live in Winchester anyway 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvSFC Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 20 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Poor lyon Just got to hope this deadline day is better than last summer's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 17 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-12456721/Germany-Nadiem-Amiri-Leeds.html Lol. I hope we only show our prospective new signings Ocean Village I saw that and laughed cos he had cancelled coming over 4 times before. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 Saints interested in Matt O’Riley from Celtic, it may shock you to hear that Leeds are too . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheAlehouseBrawlers Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 12 minutes ago, SNSUN said: Just fudge it and say most of Southampton is the New Forest. Tbh, these players are earning ridiculous amounts of money, they're young and loaded, they're not looking for tranquil surroundings like the New Forest. They want big busy cities and a buzzing nightlife, somewhere to spend their...cough...hard-earned. Striking distance of London, Manchester at a push, is what attracts the best players. We should be selling Southampton as 'near' London, if they fancy living in Winchester, 50 miles up the M3 is nothing in an Aston Martin! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 1 minute ago, Appy said: Saints interested in Matt O’Riley from Celtic, it may shock you to hear that Leeds are too . It's like when SR consolidated departments across clubs, they accidentally got Leeds scouting department. Or more likely, the hacks have just been consolidated more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 2 minutes ago, Appy said: Saints interested in Matt O’Riley from Celtic, it may shock you to hear that Leeds are too . If he is to leave Celtic, it will be for the PL - he a quality player, similar to that of Smallbone/Downes as well. I'd have thought any additional CM we get is more of a physical presence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sfcphilc Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 Mara being linked with AC Milan on twitter. I think I've had enough Internet for one day. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 Wood only on bench for Swansea v Bournemouth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 10 minutes ago, Appy said: Saints interested in Matt O’Riley from Celtic, it may shock you to hear that Leeds are too . Very interesting link... although I would be very surprised if he'd join a championship club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 3 minutes ago, egg said: Very interesting link... although I would be very surprised if he'd join a championship club. Same here, if he moves it’ll be to the premier league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 17 minutes ago, TheAlehouseBrawlers said: Tbh, these players are earning ridiculous amounts of money, they're young and loaded, they're not looking for tranquil surroundings like the New Forest. They want big busy cities and a buzzing nightlife, somewhere to spend their...cough...hard-earned. Striking distance of London, Manchester at a push, is what attracts the best players. We should be selling Southampton as 'near' London, if they fancy living in Winchester, 50 miles up the M3 is nothing in an Aston Martin! well in theory London is right on that line up to Birmingham and through Liverpool where were once the only premier league below it, so in theory its still part of our catchment area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 29 August, 2023 Share Posted 29 August, 2023 8 minutes ago, Give it to Ron said: Wood only on bench for Swansea v Bournemouth A bench made of wood isn’t that unusual 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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