Miltonaggro Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 7 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said: Excluding deadline day, is this the latest at night we've ever announced anyone? It was going to be 5pm but they had to go to IKEA to buy a chair for the photos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 1 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangelyBrown Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 Despite the negativity on here for me it's so far not so bad.. - Orsić, Diallo, Caletta-Car, Walcott and Elynoussi aren't really a big loss - Salisu didn't live up to expectations and have now replaced with holgate who isn't great either at PL level (but may at least want to play for us ...) - Livramento went a decent fee, who may or may not recover from a serious injury - Ward-Prowse gone for arguably more than he's worth and we've replaced with Downes who may not be quite as good but is well thought of and looks capable - Lavia has gone for a good fee and have replaced with Charles who seems very competent We've also added: - Manning - jury is still out - Fraser - should be decent at this level and has something to prove We might yet lose some decent players, but given that we've gone down a division so far things aren't so bad.... Just not sure why there is so much negativity here. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecurnew02 Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 We are in deep trouble if Fraser is Tella’s replacement. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 3 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Very very disappointing 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmer Saint Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 3 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Oh well, if a team like Leverkusen come knocking we're not keeping him, however hard you try. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
23rdSaint Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 Kudos on the Tella scoop, @Bad Wolf. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 Fair play to Tella, Good luck mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 Personally expected Tella to go as he has obviously been pushing for a move all summer. Sounds like a good fee and to be fair a great opportunity for him. Hopefully we can reinvest the cash whether in that position or elsewhere or at least keep Sulemana. Have to say I was suprised by how well both Fraser and Holgate come across on their video interviews - both seem keen to prove themselves and genuinely pleased to be joining. Low risk, potentially high reward additions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Corbyn Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 4 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: Too much money to turn down for a player of his level. Squeaky bum time though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
freshen up Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 At least it's not Burnley. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 If Sports Republic don't put any of this cash back into the squad between now and next Friday, are we allowed to question their intentions? 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 That's probably the most disappointing and unexpected transfer, after Tino. A year in this league and it felt like we'd get the benefit of that, but seemingly not. I think he's wanted out for a while to be honest, scored some goals for us this year but I've felt he's played within himself up until now. I fully expect Fraser is his replacement, so all we can do is get behind it - nothing we can do about it now, might as well try and make the most this season (we still have a good side fwiw). If we are no where near in January, then yeah, we have fucked it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 1 minute ago, Farmer Saint said: Oh well, if a team like Leverkusen come knocking we're not keeping him, however hard you try. My view, club was never going to turn down a £20m plus deal for a player they tried to get rid of this time last year. Let’s hope we have a genuine replacement lined up. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 3 minutes ago, Farmer Saint said: Oh well, if a team like Leverkusen come knocking we're not keeping him, however hard you try. 20m+ sell on clause is decent We have to get the replacement right This one stings though, I honestly thought we’d keep him 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 6 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: This time last year I would have laughed at you if you said he would got for £20m to Germany after his loan at Burnley. This one feels like a big blow for our promotion push, Fraser is obviously his replacement. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 What do we think the starting 11 will end up looking like then? Bazunu Holgate Stephens Wood Manning Downes Charles/Smallbone Alcaraz/Hove Fraser Edozie New striker Cross our fingers it's enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Corbyn Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 Hopefully S A-A starts at the weekend and smashes it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 1 minute ago, Dusic said: Personally expected Tella to go as he has obviously been pushing for a move all summer. Sounds like a good fee and to be fair a great opportunity for him. Hopefully we can reinvest the cash whether in that position or elsewhere or at least keep Sulemana. Have to say I was suprised by how well both Fraser and Holgate come across on their video interviews - both seem keen to prove themselves and genuinely pleased to be joining. Low risk, potentially high reward additions. Good that the Tella money should be all profit too. Agreed on Fraser/Holgate videos. I hate when players say stuff like: "I've got nothing to prove". Wouldn't hold my breath on Sulemana staying. (Would be delighted to be wrong though). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karlb79 Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dusic said: Personally expected Tella to go as he has obviously been pushing for a move all summer. Sounds like a good fee and to be fair a great opportunity for him. Hopefully we can reinvest the cash whether in that position or elsewhere or at least keep Sulemana. Have to say I was suprised by how well both Fraser and Holgate come across on their video interviews - both seem keen to prove themselves and genuinely pleased to be joining. Low risk, potentially high reward additions. Genuine question as I don't recall it, how did AM-N come across in his joining interview? Hopefully Holgate and Fraser's actions will back up their media managed words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ecurnew02 Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 2 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said: If Sports Republic don't put any of this cash back into the squad between now and next Friday, are we allowed to question their intentions? 100%, and I’m someone who has tried to remain optimistic with SR. Can’t sell that many players for that much money and have a majority of our signings be loans and free transfers. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 If we keep two from Alcaraz, Sulemana, Adams and KWP we will have had a very good window, pending replacements. Most teams in this league are shit and we will have no excuses for not getting promoted. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 1 minute ago, Smirking_Saint said: 20m+ sell on clause is decent We have to get the replacement right This one stings though, I honestly thought we’d keep him The replacement is done to be honest, fairly sure of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SambaMaverick Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 Can't turn down £20m pure profit for a semi-academy product with two years left on his contract, but if Fraser is the replacement then fuck me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint1 Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 20m + add ons is quite a return for somebody who is only proven at Championship level. Yes I would have liked Tella to stay and yes we may not see all the money reinvested but.... If (Big IF) Sulemana stays and we also have the option of Edozie, Amo, Fraser and AA in the wide areas then im happy with that for a championship team. I dont think it was realistic that both Tella and Sully would stay, but if we can keep one it would be great. Thought it would be Tella though 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 1 minute ago, S-Clarke said: The replacement is done to be honest, fairly sure of that. I think Fraser is a good player but Id still be dissapointed if it is him 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 5 minutes ago, freshen up said: At least it's not Burnley. Looks like that dopey yank birds campaign worked, but not how she hoped 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galway saint Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 Just now, goodymatt said: This time last year I would have laughed at you if you said he would got for £20m to Germany after his loan at Burnley. This one feels like a big blow for our promotion push, Fraser is obviously his replacement. Great news really. am sure we can get che out of the door plus sulemana on loan. The one that worries me is ABK. He’s the one decent senior player l we might not get rid of which is a worry. Good news we have not signed anyone of any note to date and hopefully we can hang onto tall Paul and bazanu albeit the latter looks increasingly vulnerable to a move 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 Just now, Smirking_Saint said: I think Fraser is a good player but Id still be dissapointed if it is him Not sure we have the space for another. Edozie, Amo-Ameyaw, Fraser, Moussa, Sullemana - not sure how we add another to that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 51 minutes ago, Galway saint said: Why ? These are the people who signed Tall Paul and appointed Nathan jones. Err, no. That was Ankersen. He's in Turkey doing his thing. Wilcox and a whole new crew are now doing the grown up stuff. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SambaMaverick Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 Just now, S-Clarke said: Not sure we have the space for another. Edozie, Amo-Ameyaw, Fraser, Moussa, Sullemana - not sure how we add another to that. Then I'm not sure how we go up. Simple as that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 (edited) Really wanted Tella to stay disappointing. Edited 25 August, 2023 by davefizzy14 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dig Dig Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 3 minutes ago, woodsaint1 said: 20m + add ons is quite a return for somebody who is only proven at Championship level. Yes I would have liked Tella to stay and yes we may not see all the money reinvested but.... If (Big IF) Sulemana stays and we also have the option of Edozie, Amo, Fraser and AA in the wide areas then im happy with that for a championship team. I dont think it was realistic that both Tella and Sully would stay, but if we can keep one it would be great. Thought it would be Tella though To be honest, we’re in a pretty strong position re Sulemana. He has four years left on his contract and we aren’t going to take less than what we paid. Not many willing to spend that much on him I wouldn’t think. Loan could happen but only if he can’t knuckle down 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 32 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: How? Where has this money come from? 😂 30m loan fee we paid for Holgate 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 2 minutes ago, davefizzy14 said: Really wanted Tella to stay 🥲 I don’t support this decision. It’s a decent fee but it’s a bad call. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galway saint Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 Just now, Dig Dig said: To be honest, we’re in a pretty strong position re Sulemana. He has four years left on his contract and we aren’t going to take less than what we paid. Not many willing to spend that much on him I wouldn’t think. Loan could happen but only if he can’t knuckle down We will ship him out on loan - the whole Tenor of the club feels down with Holgate, Fraser etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint1 Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 Is that upwards of 175m in sales already 😂? Obviously we'll only see about 140m with the sell on clauses but thats still impressive. Could be worse, we could be loaning all our assets out in the hope that somebody buys them next summer. Realistically we're unlikely to see even 50m of that reinvested, but thats due to our current standing as opposed to tights pockets from SR. Wouldnt want to see us spending a fortune on players who may not be good enough for our PL return anyways 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 Just now, SambaMaverick said: Then I'm not sure how we go up. Simple as that. Sully looked better in the Prem than Tella ever did; neither were great but Sully was better. Edozie and Djenepo were no worse and Fraser has in the past looked good in the Prem. I don’t think those are bad options to have out wide, I really don’t. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 How much cash have we brought in now? Has someone kept a tally? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 5 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Not sure we have the space for another. Edozie, Amo-Ameyaw, Fraser, Moussa, Sullemana - not sure how we add another to that. Exactly. The club are showing a lot of faith in Edozie; it paves the way for SAA and I'm still hoping Sully will come good. Fraser is in so Tella could leave. The striker position is interesting. Will Che go if we don't have a replacement? I'm still hoping Che will stay. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 1 minute ago, hypochondriac said: How much cash have we brought in now? Has someone kept a tally? Around £120-128m (not including Tella) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 18 minutes ago, 23rdSaint said: Kudos on the Tella scoop, @Bad Wolf. Ngl I was really hoping my contact was mistaken or bullshitting 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gloucester Saint Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: Not sure we have the space for another. Edozie, Amo-Ameyaw, Fraser, Moussa, Sullemana - not sure how we add another to that. Somebody posted earlier who seemed vaguely ITK that Djenepo believe it or not has a few clubs keen to sign him. Don’t know whether loan or perm. Can’t see him getting much of a look in with Russell Martin and moron decision by the club with last season’s extension. Sulemana - who knows, get a sense he wants to go but was expensive and nobody wants to commit break even money (£22m or so). So he ought to get fit and get his head down and make a huge impact in the Championship. If he doesn’t and someone offers a deal washing the club’s face then there would need to be at least one new wide player with a bit towards the new striker if Che goes to stretch the budget. Maybe two if Mara is loaned out. I again can’t see Mara fitting the detailed way RM wants to play. The first team badly lacks goals with Tella going and Adams very likely. Can’t rely on a loan option to get a 25 goal striker. AA decent so far but I think RM wants him just off the main striker. Edited 25 August, 2023 by Gloucester Saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SambaMaverick Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Lighthouse said: Sully looked better in the Prem than Tella ever did; neither were great but Sully was better. Edozie and Djenepo were no worse and Fraser has in the past looked good in the Prem. I don’t think those are bad options to have out wide, I really don’t. I respect your opinion but only Sulemana (maybe) out of those four has a clinical touch in front of goal. Edozie, Djenepo and Fraser are not goalscorers. Tella scored 19 goals last season. If Che goes and the replacement is duff then we're fucked. Edited 25 August, 2023 by SambaMaverick 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 Just now, SuperSAINT said: Around £120-128m (not including Tella) So 150 million with Tella. Maybe 165 with Adams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galway saint Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 1 minute ago, OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint said: Exactly. The club are showing a lot of faith in Edozie; it paves the way for SAA and I'm still hoping Sully will come good. Fraser is in so Tella could leave. The striker position is interesting. Will Che go if we don't have a replacement? I'm still hoping Che will He will go as well 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 16 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: That's probably the most disappointing and unexpected transfer, after Tino. A year in this league and it felt like we'd get the benefit of that, but seemingly not. I think he's wanted out for a while to be honest, scored some goals for us this year but I've felt he's played within himself up until now. I fully expect Fraser is his replacement, so all we can do is get behind it - nothing we can do about it now, might as well try and make the most this season (we still have a good side fwiw). If we are no where near in January, then yeah, we have fucked it. Don't really blame Tella for wanting to go. Must have felt like a massive kick in the teeth to him when we loaned him out to Burnley and ended up playing the likes of Edozie and Mara ahead of him. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 We still have Aribo too, who seems to have had a bit of interest in him, so maybe him going would see another body in for those wide positions. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodymatt Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 2 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: How much cash have we brought in now? Has someone kept a tally? Well according to Jacob Tanswell on his Fraser announcement tweet, we are having to utilise the loan market as we spent so much last season. He pretty much confirmed that in his replies: https://x.com/j_tanswell/status/1695119121506058564?s=46&t=7raSKCMt6LV8RJ1C2d39WQ Record sales for this league and we don’t have much of a budget by the sounds of it? Maybe we need to sell Tella just to cover the loan fees and Wood… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 25 August, 2023 Share Posted 25 August, 2023 1 minute ago, hypochondriac said: So 150 million with Tella. Maybe 165 with Adams. Around that. We still likely have a very hefty amount to pay on last summers (not so great January) business. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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