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Badger

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11 minutes ago, ecurnew02 said:

Holgate can probably be fine defensively at the championship level but his passing is shocking. I know Bednarek and Stephens aren’t good at it either but he’s worse 

This has been the line trotted out about existing players (defender’s especially), yet yesterday proved otherwise. 

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Harry_SFC

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Just now, Baird of the land said:

he at least has a bit of pace, which we badly need in whoever comes in.

True.

My issue is that he isn't great in the air. Stephens isn't either.

When the rest of your team is under 6 ft you at least need your CB's to be dominant in this aspect. 

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Lighthouse

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11 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said:

Why would we be pissing about with loans in our financial situation? Whack down £15m for Harwood-Bellis and get him in tomorrow.

Because they may well be better than the players we already have. I'm not sure where you're getting the idea we have money to burn from, either.

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CB Fry

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16 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said:

Why would we be pissing about with loans in our financial situation? Whack down £15m for Harwood-Bellis and get him in tomorrow.

Is this the same Harwood Bellis who spent last season on loan in the Championship or a different one?

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skintsaint

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20 minutes ago, Badger said:

Who do you suggest ? 
 

(Assuming you’re referring to the Championship as 2nd Division. Fine by me if you are, it’s still that in my mind). 

No idea, I just think people want players we cannot simply get as maybe forget we aren't top league anymore.

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Give it to Ron

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6 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

Can't say I've seen anything of Paintsil but he will offer us more than Onuachu so on that basis, get it done. 

We don’t need any right wingers though it’s one position we have loads although wiki says attacking mid or left wing 

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GDog07

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Could have a couple of rapid Ghanaian wingers if Sulemana’s mind is at the club.

Let’s hope they’re decent pals and could convince him to stay, could devastate the Championship attacking-wise, Sulemana LW, Tella AM, Paintsil RW.

Onuachu would certainly be good to move on, no doubt eating up a large chunk of wage and offering us nothing now it seems. Any chance we could move on Djenepo and Aribo from our midfield too?

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Saint_clark

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22 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

Can't say I've seen anything of Paintsil but he will offer us more than Onuachu so on that basis, get it done. 

Based on what? He plays for the same team Onuachu did only he's scored less goals and only got 8 more assists in a similar amount of games. 

If we're confident that he can do a job in this league, we should be giving Onuachu a go as well. 

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hypochondriac

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7 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

Based on what? He plays for the same team Onuachu did only he's scored less goals and only got 8 more assists in a similar amount of games. 

If we're confident that he can do a job in this league, we should be giving Onuachu a go as well. 

Doesn't he play in a completely different position 

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Mr Brightside

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2 hours ago, macca155 said:

Smallbone like Tella was deemed surplus to requirements last year. No surprise that either would be open to a Premier League move.

Would it be that big a deal? A nuisance yes, bit of a hit to our collective egos, but both could be replaced.  Tella from existing resources and presumably a wedge straight to Swansea for Grines, to replace Smallbone.

Losing Alcaraz is way more concerning.

Didn’t think I’d be saying this, but I think losing Smallbone would be a big deal. Watched him against Reading, Wednesday and yesterday and was MOTM in all 3 imo.
He’s been a revelation, seems to always be available for a pass, very calm under pressure, uses it well, tackles, and has been the heartbeat of the team, in those games at least. Fits the new style of play perfectly, would imagine RM would want to keep him so hopefully he stays.
The only thing more concerning for me than our woeful defending yesterday was him limping off. 

Yes, he could be replaced, but would we get anyone better, no guarantees. As for Grimes, gets mentioned a lot on here, but haven’t seen anything linking us to him.

Re Alcaraz, like him too, but don’t think he’s consistent enough. I was very much in the thought he had a poor game camp yesterday, though got going in the last 15 mins. 

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Saint_clark

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Just now, hypochondriac said:

Doesn't he play in a completely different position 

He's a winger, so not a forward but still an attacking player. He only has 15 assists in over 100 games (whilst Onuachu who we're slating, scored 73 goals in just over 100 games). 

Point is, if we think performing for Genk in that league can translate to performing in the Championship then i'm not sure why we're writing off Onuachu whose record in Belgium was outstanding. 

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hypochondriac

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3 minutes ago, Mr Brightside said:

Didn’t think I’d be saying this, but I think losing Smallbone would be a big deal. Watched him against Reading, Wednesday and yesterday and was MOTM in all 3 imo.
He’s been a revelation, seems to always be available for a pass, very calm under pressure, uses it well, tackles, and has been the heartbeat of the team, in those games at least. Fits the new style of play perfectly, would imagine RM would want to keep him so hopefully he stays.
The only thing more concerning for me than our woeful defending yesterday was him limping off. 

Yes, he could be replaced, but would we get anyone better, no guarantees. As for Grimes, gets mentioned a lot on here, but haven’t seen anything linking us to him.

Re Alcaraz, like him too, but don’t think he’s consistent enough. I was very much in the thought he had a poor game camp yesterday, though got going in the last 15 mins. 

I know we have been relegated but surely some of these players would weigh it up and think there's at least a chance we could be going up next year and so it may be worth their while staying for at least a year. At this point I would say that Sheffield United are nailed on to go back down. 

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hypochondriac

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5 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

He's a winger, so not a forward but still an attacking player. He only has 15 assists in over 100 games (whilst Onuachu who we're slating, scored 73 goals in just over 100 games). 

Point is, if we think performing for Genk in that league can translate to performing in the Championship then i'm not sure why we're writing off Onuachu whose record in Belgium was outstanding. 

Quite a few of their fans on social media saying he's much better than Onuachu. He might be turd but they think he's decent. 

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Bad Wolf

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Mate who's a WBA fan:

Holgate would be a fantastic signing for most championship teams. He's rock solid and great with the ball at his feet can see why Everton fans don't rate him, the PL is a big step up and he's not been great but for you he'd be a really good signing

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Harry_SFC

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23 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

Based on what? He plays for the same team Onuachu did only he's scored less goals and only got 8 more assists in a similar amount of games. 

If we're confident that he can do a job in this league, we should be giving Onuachu a go as well. 

Based on the fact that Onuachu is one of the worst signings in the clubs history? Paintsil plays in a different position yes but he has attributes that are likely to improve us.

Onuachu is not suited to the English game what do ever. 

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hypochondriac

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7 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

Mate who's a WBA fan:

Holgate would be a fantastic signing for most championship teams. He's rock solid and great with the ball at his feet can see why Everton fans don't rate him, the PL is a big step up and he's not been great but for you he'd be a really good signing

Like I said earlier, go and search their forum for his name. He played rb for them and they raved about him and wanted to sign him. 

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1 minute ago, hypochondriac said:

Like I said earlier, go and search their forum for his name. He played rb for them and they raved about him and wanted to sign him. 

The two seasons he played most regularly for Everton was under Ancelotti so he clearly saw something in him.

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Bad Wolf

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3 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

He's played 427 minutes for the club, that's the equivalent of just under 5 games. 

Yes, next to nothing.

If he was from the academy, he'd be being raved about. Case in point - Sam Gallagher who apparently "didn't get a fair chance". We'll still be saying that if he'd played for us until he retired.

I'm sure Jake Hesketh (now at Sholing) should probably still get a chance too.

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10 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

Sorry but every time he has played he looks absolutely gash. You'd like to think he'd show something but he's not even good in the air and he's a giant. 

He's probably not good enough and he certainly doesn't suit our style of play, but he's hardly had a chance here. We brought him in to play the way the mad Welshman wanted to then he left and we reverted to a way totally unsuited to him. 

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HarvSFC

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And God knows what style Selles was trying to implement last season. Unsurprisingly Reading have lost both their league games 1-0. A reminder of those winnable fixtures we had under him where we just refused to lay a glove on the opposition.

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38 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said:

Mate who's a WBA fan:

Holgate would be a fantastic signing for most championship teams. He's rock solid and great with the ball at his feet can see why Everton fans don't rate him, the PL is a big step up and he's not been great but for you he'd be a really good signing

Something along the lines of an English Jos Hooiveld. FIne by me. 

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55 minutes ago, Mr Brightside said:

Didn’t think I’d be saying this, but I think losing Smallbone would be a big deal. Watched him against Reading, Wednesday and yesterday and was MOTM in all 3 imo.
He’s been a revelation, seems to always be available for a pass, very calm under pressure, uses it well, tackles, and has been the heartbeat of the team, in those games at least. Fits the new style of play perfectly, would imagine RM would want to keep him so hopefully he stays.
The only thing more concerning for me than our woeful defending yesterday was him limping off. 

Yes, he could be replaced, but would we get anyone better, no guarantees. As for Grimes, gets mentioned a lot on here, but haven’t seen anything linking us to him.

Re Alcaraz, like him too, but don’t think he’s consistent enough. I was very much in the thought he had a poor game camp yesterday, though got going in the last 15 mins. 

So far I've been really impressed with how tidy Smallbone is in possession and his range of passing. The only doubt in my head is how well he's shielding our defence and tracking runners. Is he more an attacking mid or can he really boss it in central midfield?

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FarehamSaintJames

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37 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

Sorry but every time he has played he looks absolutely gash. You'd like to think he'd show something but he's not even good in the air and he's a giant. 

Bit difficult when the team was drilled last season to not put the ball above knee height, and also the fact that he didn’t really play.

Silly statement really, poor transfer business - yes. Crap footballer - we’ll never know.

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Just now, coalman said:

So far I've been really impressed with how tidy Smallbone is in possession and his range of passing. The only doubt in my head is how well he's shielding our defence and tracking runners. Is he more an attacking mid or can he really boss it in central midfield?

He's definitely rhe guy in between he's really excellent at the link up. 

A midfield of Alcaraz, Smallbone and Charles really is the way to go.. Until Downes comes in then he will be the DM.

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Chez

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2 hours ago, Badger said:

Interesting comment:

 

Although Everton are open to a loan, their preference is to sell.
 

Yes, I bet they do. 
Tells its own story.

No one is buying him. If the club are interested, as has been rumoured, let's plan him and see how he fairs. 

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Chez

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1 hour ago, Badger said:

Wonder if Darren Mowbray will unearth a couple of names from abroad that we haven’t heard of.

Think he managed it at Aberdeen. Must have a few CB and GK’s on a list.

That's what I'd like to see. The net spread a little wider. Harder to attract good players from abroad when in championship, but Swansea signed Piroe for £1m, so it can be done.

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