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Convict Colony

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9 minutes ago, Saint NL said:

Harry Kane gone to Bayern - official.

This year's premier League will be pretty good I think, Man City far better than everyone else, Luton and Sheff Utd will far worse, but most other clubs are fairly matched.

 

Will watch the super cup tonight i think to see how he plays - streams will appear here for the game tonight if anyone else is interested https://pl.soccerstreams100.io/event/ger-super_cup/rb-leipzig-vs-bayern-live-soccer-stats/669439

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6 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Chelsea should be strong with a very good manager and some good signings, Arsenal might struggle to live up to last year but will be good again. Man United improving under Ten Hag, Newcastle improving. City should win it again but the think it’ll be closer 

I think Man City will win this season at a canter and then next season it will be a lot closer with a few clubs right in the mix.

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52 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

 

I wonder if the 'contract' mentioned here is for the transfer, rather than for the player himself. Ie are they trying to spread the fee over 7 years of installments to get around FFP ? That might explain why they'd go above our quoted price of £50mill....to persuade us to take the fee more slowly.

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10 minutes ago, Ken Tone said:

I wonder if the 'contract' mentioned here is for the transfer, rather than for the player himself. Ie are they trying to spread the fee over 7 years of installments to get around FFP ? That might explain why they'd go above our quoted price of £50mill....to persuade us to take the fee more slowly.

Although teams can sign players on 7 year deals, the cost /depreciation of the player can no longer be spread more over 5 years.

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3 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Although teams can sign players on 7 year deals, the cost /depreciation of the player can no longer be spread over 5 years.

Well that scuppers that idea!  😄 Wonder why Chelsea seem to be going above the 50 then. Seems to be too good to not have a catch.

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3 minutes ago, SaintsFan86 said:

 

Can anyone interpret this?

 

Yeah he's suggesting that we have agreed a deal with Chelsea because they have bid what we wanted but Lavia wants to go to Liverpool and we aren't letting him because they haven't paid us the asking price. Pretty simple. 

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2 minutes ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

This whole saga is doing my head in so Gawd knows what it must be doing to Lavia. 

The poor darling will just have to keep taking his many thousands of pounds per week that he’s getting paid for not playing. If he really wants to play for Liverpool rather than Chelsea, I suggest he gets on the phone to Klopp and tells him to meet the £50 mill figure that we’ve set. If the scousers are not prepared to meet that figure they cannot want him as much as he wants them.

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4 minutes ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

This whole saga is doing my head in so Gawd knows what it must be doing to Lavia. 

Go to play under Poch Lavia. London much better than Liverpool too although Chelsea is often a basket case of a club

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5 minutes ago, Yorkshire Saint said:

Lavia wants to go to Liverpool 

Saints are in colusion with Chelsea 

Lavia has a lot to take in 

 

 

 

Lavia wants to go to Liverpool

Chelsea have met Saints asking price

Liverpool have not met Saints asking price

Liverpool need to shit or get off the pot.

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17 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Yeah he's suggesting that we have agreed a deal with Chelsea because they have bid what we wanted but Lavia wants to go to Liverpool and we aren't letting him because they haven't paid us the asking price. Pretty simple. 

Feels like the opposite situation to the Caicedo one

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1 hour ago, Saint NL said:

Harry Kane gone to Bayern - official.

This year's premier League will be pretty good I think, Man City far better than everyone else, Luton and Sheff Utd will far worse, but most other clubs are fairly matched.

 

Looks weaker to me in terms of staying up. Much easier to stay up than last season. Luton, Sheffield Utd are shite, pretty much nailed on relegated. That leaves one place. Wolves look worse, Boscombe are Boscombe, Everton haven’t got any better, I can’t see Fulham having as good a season and Forest will be bouncing around the bottom third. Hodgson is about 93, sand Burnley aren’t great. Leicester of last season wouldn’t go down this year. 

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1 hour ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

This whole saga is doing my head in so Gawd knows what it must be doing to Lavia. 

The kid needs to appreciate that he's a saleable commodity. If he wants Liverpool, and their offer is £5m below the asking, then £5m needs to be found between Liverpool, Lavia's wages, and his agents fee. 

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9 minutes ago, egg said:

The kid needs to appreciate that he's a saleable commodity. If he wants Liverpool, and their offer is £5m below the asking, then £5m needs to be found between Liverpool, Lavia's wages, and his agents fee. 

It's not like Liverpool don't have the money. They showed their hand with Caicedo.

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Convict Colony

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Seriously I think with every passing window or every season of moaning from Klopp there are less and less liverpool fans in the UK.

Just complete whingers.

Lavia and his agent needs to man up - he's been talking to liverpool without a fee being agreed so thats on him putting the cart before the horse and liverpool being illegal fucks AGAIN.

If chelsea have agreed a price with us the next step is then we give him permission to talk to them, not the other way around.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

Seriously I think with every passing window or every season of moaning from Klopp there are less and less liverpool fans in the UK.

Just complete whingers.

Lavia and his agent needs to man up - he's been talking to liverpool without a fee being agreed so thats on him putting the cart before the horse and liverpool being illegal fucks AGAIN.

If chelsea have agreed a price with us the next step is then we give him permission to talk to them, not the other way around.

 

 

isnt though. This is the norm now and how most transfers are conducted

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25 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Liverpool have done what they always do and unsettled the player in order to get him cheaper. It's not our fault that Liverpool are twats. 

To be fair to Lavia and Liverpool, players will usually speak with (at least via their agents) potential buyers before the clubs do a deal. I've got little doubt that the same will have happened with Manning and Charles, and ditto any players we have in the pipeline. The issue here, I think, is that the lad genuinely prefers Liverpool and to be honest why would any young player who actually wants to play, go to Chelsea? 

By hook or crook, Chelsea have upped the anti ( they did the same with Rice - did they really want him though...), and the ball is firmly in the court of Lavia/his agent/Liverpool. £5m can easily be found between them to get him to Liverpool.

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To be fair to Lavia and Liverpool, players will usually speak with (at least via their agents) potential buyers before the clubs do a deal. I've got little doubt that the same will have happened with Manning and Charles, and ditto any players we have in the pipeline. The issue here, I think, is that the lad genuinely prefers Liverpool and to be honest why would any young player who actually wants to play, go to Chelsea? 

By hook or crook, Chelsea have upped the anti ( they did the same with Rice - did they really want him though...), and the ball is firmly in the court of Lavia/his agent/Liverpool. £5m can easily be found between them to get him to Liverpool.

Bit of a coincidence then that most of the players who act up do so after interest from Liverpool isn't it. 

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4 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

isnt though. This is the norm now and how most transfers are conducted

Unfortunately it is the norm but its not how transfers are supposed to work hence liverpool getting fined for various instances of tapping up - rule below.

"The Premier League states the official definition is: "Subject to Rule T.7, a contracted player, either by himself or by any person on his behalf, shall not either directly or indirectly make any such approach as is referred to in Rule T.5 without having obtained the prior written consent of his club."

If we get pissed off with liverpool we should report them again.

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6 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Bit of a coincidence then that most of the players who act up do so after interest from Liverpool isn't it. 

Oh come on, players who want to act up, will act up regardless of where they want to go. If you're suggesting that it's only Liverpool who 'tap up' players, that's very naive thinking. 

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9 minutes ago, egg said:

To be fair to Lavia and Liverpool, players will usually speak with (at least via their agents) potential buyers before the clubs do a deal. I've got little doubt that the same will have happened with Manning and Charles, and ditto any players we have in the pipeline. The issue here, I think, is that the lad genuinely prefers Liverpool and to be honest why would any young player who actually wants to play, go to Chelsea? 

By hook or crook, Chelsea have upped the anti ( they did the same with Rice - did they really want him though...), and the ball is firmly in the court of Lavia/his agent/Liverpool. £5m can easily be found between them to get him to Liverpool.

Yeah probably this i would guess, unless poch comes in an sweet talks him.

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12 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

isnt though. This is the norm now and how most transfers are conducted

Of course it is. How anyone thinks that it's only Liverpool who get the player onside before sorting a deal with the selling club is beyond me. 

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2 minutes ago, egg said:

Oh come on, players who want to act up, will act up regardless of where they want to go. If you're suggesting that it's only Liverpool who 'tap up' players, that's very naive thinking. 

I wasn't suggesting that I was saying that in my opinion, a higher percentage of players who receive interest from  Liverpool do it. It would not surprise me in the slightest to learn that it's a tactic not discouraged from the Liverpool end in order for them to get what they want. 

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5 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

Unfortunately it is the norm but its not how transfers are supposed to work hence liverpool getting fined for various instances of tapping up - rule below.

"The Premier League states the official definition is: "Subject to Rule T.7, a contracted player, either by himself or by any person on his behalf, shall not either directly or indirectly make any such approach as is referred to in Rule T.5 without having obtained the prior written consent of his club."

If we get pissed off with liverpool we should report them again.

Exactly. 

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3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I wasn't suggesting that I was saying that in my opinion, a higher percentage of players who receive interest from  Liverpool do it. It would not surprise me in the slightest to learn that it's a tactic not discouraged from the Liverpool end in order for them to get what they want. 

Nah, I think it's just the way football is. First and foremost it's pretty much general rule to sound out a players interest before putting any money on the table.

So before a fee or an enquiry is even put onto the table of the players parent club, the player via his agent will know of the interest and will be willing to talk - so the club know it's not a waste of time attempting to agree a fee.

Then clubs will open talks and start negotiating, but behind the scenes the agents and the players will be thrashing out his terms. The agreement of the fee between the clubs is now almost always the final thing to happen.

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Just now, S-Clarke said:

Nah, I think it's just the way football is. First and foremost it's pretty much general rule to sound out a players interest before putting any money on the table.

So before a fee or an enquiry is even put onto the table of the players parent club, the player via his agent will know of the interest and will be willing to talk - so the club know it's not a waste of time attempting to agree a fee.

If the player is 100% jumping at the chance before a bid is made, then clubs will open talks and start negotiating, but behind the scenes the agents and the players will be thrashing out his terms. The agreement of the fee between the clubs is now almost always the final thing to happen.

I don't disagree with any of that. As said above, a higher percentage of players start acting up and going on strike when it's related to Liverpool and they've been reported more than once for tapping up. They're a dirty club. 

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8 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

Unfortunately it is the norm but its not how transfers are supposed to work hence liverpool getting fined for various instances of tapping up - rule below.

"The Premier League states the official definition is: "Subject to Rule T.7, a contracted player, either by himself or by any person on his behalf, shall not either directly or indirectly make any such approach as is referred to in Rule T.5 without having obtained the prior written consent of his club."

If we get pissed off with liverpool we should report them again.

How do you know we didn't give them written consent?

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1 minute ago, hypochondriac said:

I don't disagree with any of that. As said above, a higher percentage of players start acting up and going on strike when it's related to Liverpool and they've been reported more than once for tapping up. They're a dirty club. 

Maybe - but Gnonto at Leeds is also acting up, after Leeds have rejected the overtures of Everton and are refusing to deal with them.

It's probably a scouse thing!

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8 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

Not sure anyone has said that. You've made it up. 

Then what did you mean by this if you weren't insinuating that this is Liverpool related issue? It's football wide, and we do it, you know that.

Bit of a coincidence then that most of the players who act up do so after interest from Liverpool isn't it. 

 

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4 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

Maybe - but Gnonto at Leeds is also acting up, after Leeds have rejected the overtures of Everton and are refusing to deal with them.

It's probably a scouse thing!

The irony is that anyone who's been to Merseyside will tell that it's the last place you'd want to go! 

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11 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

I don't disagree with any of that. As said above, a higher percentage of players start acting up and going on strike when it's related to Liverpool and they've been reported more than once for tapping up. They're a dirty club. 

What on earth makes you think that players mostly act up if Liverpool want them?! 

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1 minute ago, egg said:

The irony is that anyone who's been to Merseyside will tell that it's the last place you'd want to go! 

Liverpool is a great city with a lot of history and culture, and there are plenty of very nice areas within a short drive of the respective training grounds.

Yeah there's plenty of deprived areas as well, but would you expect players signing for Saints to live in Millbrook or Thornhill?

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6 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said:

Liverpool is a great city with a lot of history and culture, and there are plenty of very nice areas within a short drive of the respective training grounds.

Yeah there's plenty of deprived areas as well, but would you expect players signing for Saints to live in Millbrook or Thornhill?

Tongue in cheek mate...it's a great city in truth. 

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