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miserableoldgit

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30 minutes ago, Saint Gifford said:

I’m just waiting for the BBQ to get hot and perusing the free agents list. 

Wow there are some players on their without clubs.

Before I get slated, I know there is a lot of the behind the scenes pandering that goes on. 
 

But I’d take loads of players on the list………………

Just had a BBQ...a couple of bottles of Goodens Gold and a nice bottle of Argentian Malbec seems to have taken my mind off things and the fact that I am not in the CoT....

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Toussaint

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2 hours ago, Turkish said:

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I got this….Inter locking spurs.

So we are looking for someone who’s played for both Inter and Spurs who is either locked into a long contract, locked in jail or has a stripper locked in his basement, (doesn’t make him a bad person).

 

 

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S-Clarke

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4 minutes ago, Galway saint said:

We need more than one striker and AA and the other chumps aren’t up to it. If we sell him there’s no guarantee Piroe will join but even if he does then I still think adams makes a significant contribution to a serious promotion push.

Exactly, I'd have said we need a new striker even IF Adams and Armstrong stay - as I can't really count on them to get the goals, in fact you might as well discount AA!

So if Adams goes, we'd need two additions up top in my opinion - or an absolute leading front man, and a source of goals from wide.

When we last came up we had Lambo regularly scoring, but he was supported in attack by Lallana chipping in - and then we had Billy Sharp coming in during January who added about 8 or 9 goals to us. Jos was a regular scorer from corners as well I think, usually on a Wednesday night against West Ham if my memory serves!

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Saint Scott

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3 minutes ago, Galway saint said:

We need more than one striker and AA and the other chumps aren’t up to it. If we sell him there’s no guarantee Piroe will join but even if he does then I still think adams makes a significant contribution to a serious promotion push.

Yes i'd rather keep Che over AA/Mara but they both have more than 12 months on their deal and have little resale value.

Piroe has an excellent scoring record in an average championship team the last 2 seasons. I'd still prefer him as our starting striker over anyone currently at the club

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Baird of the land

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10 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

Exactly, I'd have said we need a new striker even IF Adams and Armstrong stay - as I can't really count on them to get the goals, in fact you might as well discount AA!

So if Adams goes, we'd need two additions up top in my opinion - or an absolute leading front man, and a source of goals from wide.

When we last came up we had Lambo regularly scoring, but he was supported in attack by Lallana chipping in - and then we had Billy Sharp coming in during January who added about 8 or 9 goals to us. Jos was a regular scorer from corners as well I think, usually on a Wednesday night against West Ham if my memory serves!

We've got tella(who was 1 of top scorers in the league), is he not a source of goals from wide?

Given we play 1 up front I don't see any way we bring in 2 strikers. You may discount Armstrong & Mara but if they stay their wages won't be.

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Holmes_and_Watson

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17 minutes ago, Toussaint said:

I got this….Inter locking spurs.

So we are looking for someone who’s played for both Inter and Spurs who is either locked into a long contract, locked in jail or has a stripper locked in his basement, (doesn’t make him a bad person).

 

 

I might as well retire the Holmes part of my username. 🙂

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Galway saint

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1 minute ago, Baird of the land said:

We've got tella(who was 1 of top scorers in the league), is he not a source of goals from wide?

Given we play 1 up front I don't see any way we bring in 2 strikers. You may discount Armstrong & Mara but if they stay their wages won't be.

So our new striker gets insured early on and we are then asking AA or Mara to lead the line. Those are the tactics of a team with not much cash and apparently we are cash rich. I’m not saying adams is perfect but if we sell him we need two proper strikers if we are serious about promotion. 

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a1ex2001

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3 minutes ago, Galway saint said:

So our new striker gets insured early on and we are then asking AA or Mara to lead the line. Those are the tactics of a team with not much cash and apparently we are cash rich. I’m not saying adams is perfect but if we sell him we need two proper strikers if we are serious about promotion. 

Armstrong scored a bucket load last time he played at this level and Mara is good enough to get goals to would be great if we got a couple of really good strikers in but I don’t see us doing more than replacing Adams if he goes.  Personally I’d keep Adams his value as a striker out weighs any fee we are likely to get this summer after we pay his sell on clause.

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AlexLaw76

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3 minutes ago, a1ex2001 said:

Armstrong scored a bucket load last time he played at this level and Mara is good enough to get goals to would be great if we got a couple of really good strikers in but I don’t see us doing more than replacing Adams if he goes.  Personally I’d keep Adams his value as a striker out weighs any fee we are likely to get this summer after we pay his sell on clause.

What on earth makes you say Mara is good enough to get goals at this level?

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S-Clarke

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1 minute ago, a1ex2001 said:

Armstrong scored a bucket load last time he played at this level and Mara is good enough to get goals to would be great if we got a couple of really good strikers in but I don’t see us doing more than replacing Adams if he goes.  Personally I’d keep Adams his value as a striker out weighs any fee we are likely to get this summer after we pay his sell on clause.

I haven't seen anything at all from Mara to suggest he will get lots of goals at this level, he doesn't seem suited for English football 'yet' - a loan move may benefit all.

Armstrong may have scored goals a few years ago, but he has been shit for a while now - he's not going to rediscover it overnight, my feeling is that we need to cut losses on him and accept whatever Ipswich are paying - let him rebuild his career elsewhere, I can't see it working for him here.

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saintant

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16 minutes ago, a1ex2001 said:

Armstrong scored a bucket load last time he played at this level and Mara is good enough to get goals to would be great if we got a couple of really good strikers in but I don’t see us doing more than replacing Adams if he goes.  Personally I’d keep Adams his value as a striker out weighs any fee we are likely to get this summer after we pay his sell on clause.

When he scored those goals AA had formed a lethal partnership with Harvey Elliott who was on loan from Liverpool. He has never had that kind of supply since joining us. I believe he'll score goals in the right set-up but I'm not sure we have the players or way of playing to give him the kind of supply he needs.  Probably best for him and us if he moves on. Weren't Ipswich meant to be interested?

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Gloucester Saint

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12 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

I haven't seen anything at all from Mara to suggest he will get lots of goals at this level, he doesn't seem suited for English football 'yet' - a loan move may benefit all.

Armstrong may have scored goals a few years ago, but he has been shit for a while now - he's not going to rediscover it overnight, my feeling is that we need to cut losses on him and accept whatever Ipswich are paying - let him rebuild his career elsewhere, I can't see it working for him here.

I can’t see Mara getting goals at any level at the moment. Looks very underdone and raw as a footballer. The coaches can see some raw talent but it’s going to require intensive coaching and he’s got to take it on board on the pitch. If he can start to do that for the B team he might come back into contention. Agree on AA if Ipswich offer £8m and match his wages, I don’t think a ‘play off the shoulder’ striker will fit RM’s methods. 

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harvey

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52 minutes ago, miserableoldgit said:

Just had a BBQ...a couple of bottles of Goodens Gold and a nice bottle of Argentian Malbec seems to have taken my mind off things and the fact that I am not in the CoT....

You can't beat a nice bottle of Argentinian Malbec! 👍

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Streaky

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9 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Russell Martin's thoughts on lumping it up to big bloke as a plan B

 

I get it but if teams are gonna put 11 behind the ball then we will be having alot of 0 0 draws or 1 0 defeats this season. You can't play the same way every minute of every game. 

Even man city go long at times. I think its a little short sighted. 

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InvictaSaint

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2 minutes ago, Streaky said:

I get it but if teams are gonna put 11 behind the ball then we will be having alot of 0 0 draws or 1 0 defeats this season. You can't play the same way every minute of every game. 

Even man city go long at times. I think its a little short sighted. 

By his own admission in interviews he’s learnt and evolved since being MK Dons boss. He would agree with you now; sometimes you do have to go long / adapt your approach. 

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14 minutes ago, saintant said:

When he scored those goals AA had formed a lethal partnership with Harvey Elliott who was on loan from Liverpool. He has never had that kind of supply since joining us. I believe he'll score goals in the right set-up but I'm not sure we have the players or way of playing to give him the kind of supply he needs.  Probably best for him and us if he moves on. Weren't Ipswich meant to be interested?

They ain't spending £8m and whatever wages we are now paying him (£30k a week?).

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Chez

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13 minutes ago, LGTL said:

More chance of someone off this forum playing as a striker under Martin then there is of him picking Onuachu. What an utterly hopeless signing he was. 

You could see in his YouTube highlights that he was a donkey. I've never been so disappointed in a signing as I was when he was announced. 

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saintant

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1 minute ago, Chez said:

They ain't spending £8m and whatever wages we are now paying him (£30k a week?).

Sometimes you have to admit your mistakes and take a hit to recoup some of what you paid out and to reduce the wage bill. Why keep him if he can't do the job we bought him for? Plus he's taking up a place in the first team squad.

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Chez

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3 minutes ago, saintant said:

Just been looking at Swansea fans forum. Their view on Piroe is that he has no pace and is poor in the air both offensively and defensively. Assuming they are right he's not what we need.

Yep. Having no pace/acceleration worries me a bit. That is why Prem sides are not signing him. He's not some amazing talent. He's a Rasiak type.

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Holmes_and_Watson

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3 minutes ago, Streaky said:

I get it but if teams are gonna put 11 behind the ball then we will be having alot of 0 0 draws or 1 0 defeats this season. You can't play the same way every minute of every game. 

Even man city go long at times. I think its a little short sighted. 

I was just off to find the "there is no plan B, only making plan a better" quote, when I saw that specifically mentioning your scenario. 🙂

From what I've seen, he will absolutely stick to his plan. He'll work to finding solutions to problems within his system, rather than change it so much, that it's a different tactic.

Which means coaching players to fit his goals. If they can't, they have to go. Rather than his tactics changing too much. And whatever Onuachu's strengths, if he can't also fit that tactic, then he's out too.

Pluses are consistency, developing better solutions, to get better results.

On the downside, some decent strengths (and some of these players did really well in RalphBall) may no longer fit, and persevering with the approach will seem like utter bloody mindedness in some games.

I only hope that there's solutions to be found from his system that gets us promoted. Because being a slave to a tactic that gets found out, ends badly as Ralph discovered. Totally get where you're coming from.

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CamSaint

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2 minutes ago, Chez said:
10 minutes ago, saintant said:

Just been looking at Swansea fans forum. Their view on Piroe is that he has no pace and is poor in the air both offensively and defensively. Assuming they are right he's not what we need.

Yep. Having no pace/acceleration worries me a bit. That is why Prem sides are not signing him. He's not some amazing talent. He's a Rasiak type.

On the other hand, he seems to have scored a shed load of goals in Martin's system - something we sorely lack!

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saintant

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Just now, Chez said:

Yep. Having no pace/acceleration worries me a bit. That is why Prem sides are not signing him. He's not some amazing talent. He's a Rasiak type.

Plus any centre forward we sign must be able to help out when we defend corners and free kicks - we need to introduce more players who can assist the defence.

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SotonianWill

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16 minutes ago, Streaky said:

I get it but if teams are gonna put 11 behind the ball then we will be having alot of 0 0 draws or 1 0 defeats this season. You can't play the same way every minute of every game. 

Even man city go long at times. I think it’s a little short sighted. 

TBH it’s not like we don’t ever go long. Vs Wednesday Stephens quite a few times looked for a quick ball over the top from a goal kick. After a bunch of mindless passing, it can cause quite a shock to suddenly change it up and go long. 

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Golac's Cunning Stunts

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7 minutes ago, Chez said:

Yep. Having no pace/acceleration worries me a bit. That is why Prem sides are not signing him. He's not some amazing talent. He's a Rasiak type.

What do you expect though? We are in the champs now. He has scored a shit load of goals at this level so we should be interested

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Harry_SFC

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1 minute ago, Golac's Cunning Stunts said:

What do you expect though? We are in the champs now. He has scored a shit load of goals at this level so we should be interested

This really. It'll be tough to find someone willing to play in the championship who is a proven goalscorer that possess every single attribute. 

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1 minute ago, Golac's Cunning Stunts said:

What do you expect though? We are in the champs now. He has scored a shit load of goals at this level so we should be interested

I suspect if we re-visited the "Lambert signs" thread there would be similar comments.

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Chez

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6 minutes ago, saintant said:

Sometimes you have to admit your mistakes and take a hit to recoup some of what you paid out and to reduce the wage bill. Why keep him if he can't do the job we bought him for? Plus he's taking up a place in the first team squad.

I'm with you. There was moment in the Newcastle cup game when he looked really dangerous played on the wing. Jones took him off. Ive not seen anything to suggest he will find his form again with us. We are reliant on a buyer coming forward, but no one has £8m. Doubt he'd go for half that.

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Baird of the land

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26 minutes ago, saintant said:

Just been looking at Swansea fans forum. Their view on Piroe is that he has no pace and is poor in the air both offensively and defensively. Assuming they are right he's not what we need.

Personally i'm wondering if Piroe is just wants to see out his contract and then move abroad like (Gyorkeres and Bereton-Diaz).

But yeah that feedback doesn't fill me with joy if we are in for him.

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39 minutes ago, SaintsFan86 said:

So what's the summary of today's dealings then? Been traveling all day.

JWP to West Ham

Stephens Captain

Martin confirmed another player coming in opposite direction on loan as part of the JWP agreement, didnt name names but though to be Flynn Downes

Expects more to leave in the next 3 weeks

Lavia not featuring tomorrow

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