hypochondriac Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 3 minutes ago, Bad Wolf said: Why?? It may be a little strange, sure but his heart is obviously in the either place in making the request. He'll only play if he's still our player and boo'ing our own players is moronic. Like Martin said, either you're committed or you're not. If he's going then just leave as quickly as possible, don't hang around in the team like it's a friendly match or a testimonial. We have a promotion to win and we need players who want to be here for the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StrangelyBrown Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 2 minutes ago, Streaky said: I can't see us going back up now. Too much upheaval and it's not finished yet. Any replacements we get in won't be good enough. Aarons, grimes, whoever. We'll be stuck in this league for a long time. Wow.... One game in (that we've won) and three weeks to get a settled team together. Plenty of time to get things right. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Streaky said: I can't see us going back up now. Too much upheaval and it's not finished yet. Any replacements we get in won't be good enough. Aarons, grimes, whoever. We'll be stuck in this league for a long time. Nah. We'd have a excellent chance of promotion next year. I agree though, we will do very well to reach promotion this year. Edited 9 August, 2023 by hypochondriac Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 6 minutes ago, Toussaint said: Bit of a twitchy bum, unsettling time for us fans, but I guess it was always going to be like this. The blessing is its happening in good time to allow us to rebuild. Hopefully the Lavia issue will be sorted soon and our management team can start re shaping things the way they need to to take us forward. You should try getting stopped by police with protein powder in unmarked boxes or set off the explosives detector in Washington airport for every type of explosives possible if you think this is twitchy bum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 8 minutes ago, Streaky said: I can't see us going back up now. Too much upheaval and it's not finished yet. Any replacements we get in won't be good enough. Aarons, grimes, whoever. We'll be stuck in this league for a long time. The thing is, the Championship is shit. You'll see on Saturday when despite everyone's apprehension we'll brush Norwich aside easily. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 6 minutes ago, SuperSAINT said: I'm sure we'll hear of some targets very soon... Hopefully ones that don't play in blue and from the city side of Manchester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorsaint Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 27 minutes ago, whelk said: C’mon mate you can do better. What about bragging about earning more than a lorry driver? Some puns? Unhinged Brexit references? Cock! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Timmier Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 8 minutes ago, Streaky said: I can't see us going back up now. Too much upheaval and it's not finished yet. Any replacements we get in won't be good enough. Aarons, grimes, whoever. We'll be stuck in this league for a long time. Yeah, we may as well shut down the whole club and set fire to the stadium now 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 9 August, 2023 Author Share Posted 9 August, 2023 Looks like Max Aarons is heading on Leeds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Johnson Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 JWP & Lavia Out Gustavo Hamer, Matt Grimes, James McAtee in 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SotonianWill Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 1 minute ago, Le Timmier said: Yeah, we may as well shut down the whole club and set fire to the stadium now Honestly, I mentioned yesterday the self harm of turning on the manager so soon. It’s evident here the pessimism in our fanbase (understandable after the last few years). One player leaving and we may as well shut up shop it seems. It’s a team game and with our short passing, unless from the wings, individualism is limited in return for the end goal of 900 passes and winning the game a certain other way. We’ll miss his free kicks, he was a good servant and worked hard. But my god his ability has been inflated by our fans - it must be the red and white tinted goggles they have on. Get us a player with a good work ethic who can pass the ball 5 yards and it will suit our system. We have the tools, build the rome. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James G Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 55 minutes ago, disconnect said: Why would Smallbone want to leave when a week ago(?) he was saying how it was his dream to play for Saints and his manager has been hyping him up. Agents post this news to hype up sales and cause mischief 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SotonianWill Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 1 minute ago, Dan Johnson said: JWP & Lavia Out Gustavo Hamer, Matt Grimes, James McAtee in Hamer was linked to Burnley, 15 million I believe. I’d be very happy with that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 3 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Some suggestion that he wants one more game to say goodbye to the fans. I hope he pisses off if he tries that and I wouldn't be sad to see him booed. Leave if you want but don't try and have your cake and eat it. Exactly this… I don’t want him to go, I think it’ll be a mistake on our part.. understand it to a degree on his But don’t be all holy about saying goodbye, its not an enforced sale.. its a choice As per those saying he is only a middling premier league player, I think he is better than that, he is a highly technical 6/8 with an ever presence and world class set piece ability More so, he currently epitomises Saints… its a loss imo 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirkdiggler Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 (edited) Our better players were always going to be on premier league teams lists. Surprised anyone thinks they would stay. Club just needs to get the best deal’s possible for them and move on. Far to many negative posters on here let’s judge the team and the board when the transfer window closes and we have our complete squad for the campaign. I thought how we played against SW was considering the time the coaches and RM have had with the players was bloody great best Saints performance since Koeman. Edited 9 August, 2023 by Dirkdiggler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SambaMaverick Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 If they replace him with a City kid I'll blow my top 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 1 minute ago, SambaMaverick said: If they replace him with a City kid I'll blow my top Fingers crossed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bangkoksaint Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 1 minute ago, SambaMaverick said: If they replace him with a City kid I'll blow my top Start blowing....so to speak 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint-Reece Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 31 minutes ago, Streaky said: I can't see us going back up now. Too much upheaval and it's not finished yet. Any replacements we get in won't be good enough. Aarons, grimes, whoever. We'll be stuck in this league for a long time. That's the spirit! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toussaint Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 1 minute ago, bangkoksaint said: Start blowing....so to speak Gotta earn a living 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 1 minute ago, Dirkdiggler said: Far to many negative posters on here let’s judge the team and the board when the transfer window closes and we have our complete st for the campaign. There is good reason to be negative and concerned. SR have a track record so far of getting it wrong. Failing to sign a decent striker last year and wasting money on substandard players. Contributing to relegation by faffing around with crap managers. Going back further Saints consistently seem to fail to sign the players the fans feel we need whether ifs a new centre back (when Fonte left), defensive midfielder (after Romeu left) or striker (After Ings/Broja left). I'd love it to be different. But history has left a lot of us feeling on edge and expecting the worst. Looking for signs of hope.. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 Hoping we can get his replacement in the door as soon as, the more time we have with the pivotal role the better. No reason to doubt Wilcox / Martin so far. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 9 August, 2023 Author Share Posted 9 August, 2023 Hamer would be a great signing over Grimes (just my opinion). Lots of noise about Danny Ings returning on loan - I doubt it. He’s probably one of the guys that pulled JWP to West Ham. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block41 Saint Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 I hope we've got our targets ready and waiting because it seems awfully risky to start letting our best players leave when there are only 3 weeks left of the transfer market. We saw last night that the backup players aren't up to much. Theses owners cannot afford a hattrick of poor transfer windows. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Wolf Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 1 minute ago, FarehamSaintJames said: Hamer would be a great signing over Grimes (just my opinion). Lots of noise about Danny Ings returning on loan - I doubt it. He’s probably one of the guys that pulled JWP to West Ham. Wheres the noise? I can't hear it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 5 minutes ago, BotleySaint said: There is good reason to be negative and concerned. SR have a track record so far of getting it wrong. Failing to sign a decent striker last year and wasting money on substandard players. Contributing to relegation by faffing around with crap managers. Going back further Saints consistently seem to fail to sign the players the fans feel we need whether ifs a new centre back (when Fonte left), defensive midfielder (after Romeu left) or striker (After Ings/Broja left). I'd love it to be different. But history has left a lot of us feeling on edge and expecting the worst. Looking for signs of hope.. Indeed. Absolutely nothing wrong with being nervous now seeing as we contrived to fuck up the last two transfer windows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
notnowcato Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 2 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Indeed. Absolutely nothing wrong with being nervous now seeing as we contrived to fuck up the last two transfer windows. Which had sweet FA to do with Wilcox and Martin. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 I'll be worried when/if it escalates into (smallbone, Tella, KWP, Alcaraz) Lavia and JWP departures have always felt factored in. Only thing was how much we were going to get. Hopefully we can get Grimes, which would give us that experienced head to replace JWP. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Tony Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 really worrying, a massive gap to fill with Lavia and JWP gone. Got to keep the faith that Wilcox has a decent replacement lined up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 10 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: Hamer would be a great signing over Grimes (just my opinion). Lots of noise about Danny Ings returning on loan - I doubt it. He’s probably one of the guys that pulled JWP to West Ham. If we replaced him with Hamer Id absolutely lose my shit, incredible player at this level Can’t see it happening though 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 Where is this "lots of noise"about Danny Ings? On twitter there is one thing and you've guessed it, it's someone saying it's being talked about on this forum. Jesus wept. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 1 minute ago, CB Fry said: Where is this "lots of noise"about Danny Ings? On twitter there is one thing and you've guessed it, it's someone saying it's being talked about on this forum. Jesus wept. Think Saint Garrett posted it on here as wind up then that’s been jumped on including a fake Ornstein post saying same 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 Berge about to leave sheff Utd. Assume they’ll up the bud for Smallbone. That one would really be a pain. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ex Lion Tamer Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Baird of the land said: I'll be worried when/if it escalates into (smallbone, Tella, KWP, Alcaraz) Lavia and JWP departures have always felt factored in. Only thing was how much we were going to get. Hopefully we can get Grimes, which would give us that experienced head to replace JWP. I know there haven't been many links in the media but I don't know why people think KWP will stay. He's way too good for this league and will surely be snapped up by someone Edited 9 August, 2023 by Ex Lion Tamer 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Scott Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Ex Lion Tamer said: I know there haven't been many links in the media but I don't know why people think KWP will stay. He's way to good for this league and will surely be snapped up by someone Agreed, it has deadline day written all over it. It's a shame that Aaron's looks as if he's Leeds bound. The thought of Bree as our starting RB makes me feel nauseous Edited 9 August, 2023 by Saint Scott 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 12 minutes ago, notnowcato said: Which had sweet FA to do with Wilcox and Martin. I won't trust that we know what we're doing until I see evidence. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sambosa75 Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 13 minutes ago, Ex Lion Tamer said: I know there haven't been many links in the media but I don't know why people think KWP will stay. He's way to good for this league and will surely be snapped up by someone Agreed. There’ll be plenty of late suitors for him who will take him for his versatility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 16 minutes ago, Ex Lion Tamer said: I know there haven't been many links in the media but I don't know why people think KWP will stay. He's way too good for this league and will surely be snapped up by someone Only if we choose to sell him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdmickey3 Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 JWP will be a huge loss, we were told players only going at our price, accepted 10 million less for our captain so that was a just bull shit. Will Lavia be next for sale under our value? If, as we were told we dont need money then we should have just said not for sale All this "we owe him for his loyalty" crap, we paid him 100k a week so owe him fuck all 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said: JWP will be a huge loss, we were told players only going at our price, accepted 10 million less for our captain so that was a just bull shit. How do you know that though ? The noise is coming from the West Ham end and buying clubs always mark down the actual paid price, much in the same way Saints will bolster it a bit. The truth tends to be in the middle somewhere. Liverpool will do the same with Lavia. Unless these journalists have the clubs phones tapped (ahem) how on earth are they actually going to see or know the true amount paid between one club and the other ? Edited 9 August, 2023 by beatlesaint 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Man Do Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 2 hours ago, Master Bates said: Smallbone wants to leave Didn’t he say how he always wanted to get in the first team here? Seems an odd thing to say if he wants to leave? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice29 Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 47 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said: If they replace him with a City kid I'll blow my top Like the city kid who is better and about to be sold for even more you mean? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 3 minutes ago, tdmickey3 said: JWP will be a huge loss, we were told players only going at our price, accepted 10 million less for our captain so that was a just bull shit. Will Lavia be next for sale under our value? If, as we were told we dont need money then we should have just said not for sale All this "we owe him for his loyalty" crap, we paid him 100k a week so owe him fuck all 1. We don't know the deal yet. 2. There might be other arrangements within the deal, eg Downes for a set price and Ings or something. 3. He's been here 20 years. I'm ok with him trying his luck back in tbe PL as the club fucked up the team and management around him last season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 26 minutes ago, Give it to Ron said: Think Saint Garrett posted it on here as wind up then that’s been jumped on including a fake Ornstein post saying same Wade Garrett 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 53 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said: Exactly this… I don’t want him to go, I think it’ll be a mistake on our part.. understand it to a degree on his But don’t be all holy about saying goodbye, its not an enforced sale.. its a choice As per those saying he is only a middling premier league player, I think he is better than that, he is a highly technical 6/8 with an ever presence and world class set piece ability More so, he currently epitomises Saints… its a loss imo Failed to score goals Failed to stop goals being scored against us Failed to remain in the Premier League Failed to beat Grimsby - yes, Grimsby FFS Failed to beat Gillingham Failed to show any spine, grit or determination for the last season Failed to show any kind of leadership on the field Failed, failed and failed again. Is that really what he epitomises? 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 Maybe West Ham are putting together a collection of ex team captains? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 (edited) This summer's transfer window starting to look like an old Burnout game... the past 24 hours and coming couple of days will be the slow motion multi car pile up; one we've been hurtling towards with our best laid plans/trajectory... and then afterwards we get to assess the damage, work out how many points we get, and the likely go again next year... Edited 9 August, 2023 by Saint86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 2 minutes ago, Saint86 said: This summer's transfer window starting to look like an old Burnout game... the past 24 hours and coming couple of days will be the slow motion multi car pile up; one we've been hurtling towards with our best laid plans/trajectory... and then afterwards we get to assess the damage, work out how many points we get, and the likely go again next year... Another 9/10 window then 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: Another 9/10 window then Hah, well you can only assume we've got significant transfer targets lined up and ready to come straight in... To sanction selling Tino, Lavia, and JWP, all after the season's started (and within the space of a few days) would be madness otherwise. Will be hugely damaging for morale and cohesion. Whether we can get anywhere near the required quality in is anyone's guess, and either way, selling those 3 players does nothing for the ridiculous squad bloat that we're suffering from. Edited 9 August, 2023 by Saint86 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 9 August, 2023 Share Posted 9 August, 2023 Are we still winning this transfer window, or are we now concerned? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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