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Golac's Cunning Stunts

Golac's Cunning Stunts

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  On 30/08/2023 at 18:23, Badger said:

 

From what I’ve read on here, he hasn’t played since January, and might not be available until October. All in all seems a gamble.

Has the hallmarks of being up there with the signings of Charlie George and Augustin Delgado. 
 

Perhaps it’ll be a return to the David Connolly days, potentially being our best striker bar none if he doesn’t spend time in the treatment room. 

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Will take a slight issue with your mention of Charlie George in the same sentence as Delgado. Yes, Charlie didn’t play too much for us, but when he did oh boy what a player. But that may be clouded by my schoolboy memories of being in love with football and with the saints teams of those times!

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Toadhall Saint

Toadhall Saint

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  On 30/08/2023 at 18:48, Golac's Cunning Stunts said:

Will take a slight issue with your mention of Charlie George in the same sentence as Delgado. Yes, Charlie didn’t play too much for us, but when he did oh boy what a player. But that may be clouded by my schoolboy memories of being in love with football and with the saints teams of those times!

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👍👍👍

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HarvSFC

HarvSFC

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Harwood-Bellis would be a phenomenal signing. Maybe he doesn't want to commit to us on a permanent in the Championship, but I'd be disappointed if we didn't include an option to buy dependant on promotion in the deal. He'd be one of the signing's of the summer in the Championship either way.

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Disco Stu

Disco Stu

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  On 30/08/2023 at 18:46, Osvaldorama said:

Seems weird we won’t just go and pay the 15mil. Especially as the Wood bids were rejected. Seems a much better option at that price 

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I think the buy-back clause might be putting potential suitors off. Rumoured to be "only" £35m.

Saint Matty 76

Saint Matty 76

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Welp, sorry Nixon.

Absolutely love that signing and it means I'd not be fussed if ABK goes in the last couple days, it'd just be a nice additional bonus if he does stay. Fingers crossed there's a buy option in there as well.

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Appy

Appy

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  On 30/08/2023 at 18:53, Smirking_Saint said:

This would be sensational, I suppose this is instead of Wood in this case, Id imagine because Swansea were playing hardball

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Will work out for the better for us if we end up with Harwood-Bellis surely 

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ErwinK1961

ErwinK1961

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So Stephens (who has to start when fit as captain), Bednarek, Holgate and THB, jeez that’s a tough one to pick two from.

Suspect we’ll let ABK go on loan.

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S-Clarke

S-Clarke

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Don't want to get my hopes up on this one, but he would be one heck of a signing for us. I'd have been happy with him as a PL side, surprised he hasn't had any takers. Rolls Royce of a CB imo.

Suits our style down to the ground. I hope we include an option.

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S-Clarke

S-Clarke

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  On 30/08/2023 at 18:58, disconnect said:

Harwood-Bellis in with Holgate, and ABK staying, whilst shifting Caleta-Car, Lyanco and 'higher level' Janny B would be the dream scenario. 

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Cannot see how ABK stays if we sign another CB. 

ABK expects, probably rightfully, to be first choice at this level. But so will Harwood-Bellis and Holgate, who we've signed on loan - would be top heavy.

Badger

Badger

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  On 30/08/2023 at 18:48, Golac's Cunning Stunts said:

Will take a slight issue with your mention of Charlie George in the same sentence as Delgado. Yes, Charlie didn’t play too much for us, but when he did oh boy what a player. But that may be clouded by my schoolboy memories of being in love with football and with the saints teams of those times!

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Yes, definitely a class player and a cut above Delgado I agree. 

But as I recall he was our record signing at the time, so that doesn't really sit comfortably with the bit I've highlighted in your post. I think we signed him in the December, and I'm not sure if we saw him play that season. 

Osvaldorama

Osvaldorama

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  On 30/08/2023 at 18:58, disconnect said:

Harwood-Bellis in with Holgate, and ABK staying, whilst shifting Caleta-Car, Lyanco and 'higher level' Janny B would be the dream scenario. 

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Our options would genuinely be better than last year when we were still in the PL if we pulled that off 😂

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bangkoksaint

bangkoksaint

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  On 30/08/2023 at 18:48, Golac's Cunning Stunts said:

Will take a slight issue with your mention of Charlie George in the same sentence as Delgado. Yes, Charlie didn’t play too much for us, but when he did oh boy what a player. But that may be clouded by my schoolboy memories of being in love with football and with the saints teams of those times!

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I can still remember an iconic photo of Lawrie CG, KK and MC standing on the pitch at the Dell - was there another player too?

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AlexLaw76

AlexLaw76

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  On 30/08/2023 at 19:00, S-Clarke said:

Cannot see how ABK stays if we sign another CB. 

ABK expects, probably rightfully, to be first choice at this level. But so will Harwood-Bellis and Holgate, who we've signed on loan - would be top heavy.

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If this happens, could we see a surprise departure...Bednarek?

ErwinK1961

ErwinK1961

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  On 30/08/2023 at 19:00, S-Clarke said:

Cannot see how ABK stays if we sign another CB. 

ABK expects, probably rightfully, to be first choice at this level. But so will Harwood-Bellis and Holgate, who we've signed on loan - would be top heavy.

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This, he’ll be offski. Perhaps Wood is off as we haven’t banked money for ABK so letting him go on loan, hence only a loan for THB.

S-Clarke

S-Clarke

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  On 30/08/2023 at 19:02, AlexLaw76 said:

If this happens, could we see a surprise departure...Bednarek?

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Stranger things have happened, he seems settled, but he has experience that may tempt sides across Europe to sniff at on deadline day.

S-Clarke

S-Clarke

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  On 30/08/2023 at 19:02, ErwinK1961 said:

Perhaps Wood is off as we haven’t banked money for ABK so letting him go on loan, hence only a loan for THB.

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I doubt it's as cut and dry as that, I think Swansea are just playing silly buggers as they did with Martin. We probably feel it's risky to be playing games with them so late in the window, as you know they'll end up changing the goalposts at the 11th hr and leave us snookered. 

Harwood-Bellis is a better option anyway if it happens (IMO)

OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint

OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint

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  On 30/08/2023 at 18:20, Smirking_Saint said:

Im more happy that it significantly weakens Leicester… although I wonder if they’ll move for Stewart ? Or who else is available to them ?

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I was at both Leicester games last year and the only reason we won was because this guy couldn't hit a barn door from 2 yards. Sadly, I think they'll have someone better in that position when we play them in a couple of weeks.

mitch01

mitch01

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Shame it's only a loan - he'll be picked off by someone else in a year no doubt. Still, super player to have at this level.

Reckon that means Bednarek is off. He can't have Stephens, Holgate and THB in front of him in the Championship. Not sure where it leaves ABK at all...

Saint Scott

Saint Scott

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  On 30/08/2023 at 18:50, HarvSFC said:

Harwood-Bellis would be a phenomenal signing. Maybe he doesn't want to commit to us on a permanent in the Championship, but I'd be disappointed if we didn't include an option to buy dependant on promotion in the deal. He'd be one of the signing's of the summer in the Championship either way.

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Do we need an option? I thought he only had 12 months left on his deal?

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saintwbu

saintwbu

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  On 30/08/2023 at 19:11, S-Clarke said:

Yep it does - good spot.

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There was talk of them extending it for a year so they still own him - can’t see them loaning out a good prospect and letting him go for free next year. Imagine announcement of his departure will be accompanied by a contract extension. 

egg

egg

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  On 30/08/2023 at 19:10, Saint Scott said:

Do we need an option? I thought he only had 12 months left on his deal?

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Correct, but I'm not sure why City would loan him for his last season - surely it makes sense for them to take the best offer. 

Boris Karloff

Boris Karloff

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Strange that Lavia still not featuring for Chelsea. They say he's not injured but just not match fit. Would have thought EFL trophy would be perfect opportunity.

Did he not train with us at all? I wouldn't be very happy paying £58m for a player who turns up totally out of shape. 

Turkish

Turkish

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  On 30/08/2023 at 18:50, HarvSFC said:

Harwood-Bellis would be a phenomenal signing. Maybe he doesn't want to commit to us on a permanent in the Championship, but I'd be disappointed if we didn't include an option to buy dependant on promotion in the deal. He'd be one of the signing's of the summer in the Championship either way.

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Agreed great signing, winner, been there done it in the championship and great prospect. Hopefully we’ve got an option to buy if we get promoted. He was always my preferred choice but thought he’d go to the premier league given he’s proven he can do it in the championship 

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S-Clarke

S-Clarke

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  On 30/08/2023 at 19:16, saintwbu said:

There was talk of them extending it for a year so they still own him - can’t see them loaning out a good prospect and letting him go for free next year. Imagine announcement of his departure will be accompanied by a contract extension. 

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I reckon it'll be like the AMN loan we did last year - they agree a new contract with him, which kicks in next summer if they decide - then send him out on loan.

If it doesn't work out, as was the case with AMN, they don't activate that new contract and let him walk as originally planned.

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Badger

Badger

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  On 30/08/2023 at 18:47, DT said:

Mental we’re not just paying up for this kid. What’s the problem?

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Might be more protracted trying to buy outright than a tie up a loan this late in the window.

Would hope for an option to buy at end of season though 

sambosa75

sambosa75

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  On 30/08/2023 at 18:59, ErwinK1961 said:

So Stephens (who has to start when fit as captain), Bednarek, Holgate and THB, jeez that’s a tough one to pick two from.

Suspect we’ll let ABK go on loan.

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Lascelles at Newcastle is club captain but doesn’t always play.  I’d wager if we keep ABK and sign this new lad, that will be the first choice pairing.

Guest

Guest

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We have to include an option to buy, I’m sure our special relationship with Man City will work wonders.

A third loan with no option to buy would be disappointing.

I’m not sure Bednarek would leave unless a stupid bud was out in now, more likely that ABK will be loaned out.

egg

egg

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  On 30/08/2023 at 19:18, Chez said:

why didn't Burnely go back for Harwood-Bellis?

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They may have, who knows. Alternatively, it could that he's felt good enough for the championship, but not quite PL ready, at least not yet. 

Regardless, he'd be brilliant for us but I'm not sure where that leaves others - no room (or need) for all of them. 

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S-Clarke

S-Clarke

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Dortmund move ahead of Bayern in race for Bella-Kotchap

Borussia Dortmund have moved ahead of Bayern Munich in the race to sign Southampton defender Armel Bella-Kotchap, according to Sky in Germany. 

Bayern’s focus on signing Chelsea’s Trevoh Chalobah to bolster their defensive options has given Dortmund the chance to step up their pursuit of Bella-Kotchap. 

Sky Germany’s Florian Plettenberg reports that the Bella-Kotchap deal still has a way to go, though. 

Dortmund’s proposal includes a £6.8m loan fee with a £17.2m obligation to buy next summer, plus at least another £4m in bonus payments. 

Bella-Kotchap, 21, is yet to feature for Southampton this season because of injury.

 

A £28m deal for ABK? That's too good to turn down, surely.

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beatlesaint

beatlesaint

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  On 30/08/2023 at 19:20, Badger said:

Might be more protracted trying to buy outright than a tie up a loan this late in the window.

Would hope for an option to buy at end of season though 

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We had similar with Bertrand a few years back and signed him permanently in the January window

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hypochondriac

hypochondriac

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  On 30/08/2023 at 19:21, FarehamSaintJames said:

We have to include an option to buy, I’m sure our special relationship with Man City will work wonders.

A third loan with no option to buy would be disappointing.

I’m not sure Bednarek would leave unless a stupid bud was out in now, more likely that ABK will be loaned out.

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Honestly a transfer would be nice but will you care if we go up? I know I won't. 

S-Clarke

S-Clarke

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  On 30/08/2023 at 19:21, FarehamSaintJames said:

We have to include an option to buy, I’m sure our special relationship with Man City will work wonders.

A third loan with no option to buy would be disappointing.

I’m not sure Bednarek would leave unless a stupid bud was out in now, more likely that ABK will be loaned out.

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As he's out of contract next summer, there's little point in including any option tbh.

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Turkish

Turkish

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  On 30/08/2023 at 19:22, S-Clarke said:

Dortmund move ahead of Bayern in race for Bella-Kotchap

Borussia Dortmund have moved ahead of Bayern Munich in the race to sign Southampton defender Armel Bella-Kotchap, according to Sky in Germany. 

Bayern’s focus on signing Chelsea’s Trevoh Chalobah to bolster their defensive options has given Dortmund the chance to step up their pursuit of Bella-Kotchap. 

Sky Germany’s Florian Plettenberg reports that the Bella-Kotchap deal still has a way to go, though. 

Dortmund’s proposal includes a £6.8m loan fee with a £17.2m obligation to buy next summer, plus at least another £4m in bonus payments. 

Bella-Kotchap, 21, is yet to feature for Southampton this season because of injury.

 

A £28m deal for ABK? That's too good to turn down, surely.

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Get it done good deal 

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Give it to Ron

Give it to Ron

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  On 30/08/2023 at 19:17, Turkish said:

Agreed great signing, winner, been there done it in the championship and great prospect. Hopefully we’ve got an option to buy if we get promoted. He was always my preferred choice but thought he’d go to the premier league given he’s proven he can do it in the championship 

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My lad who follows league far more than me was raving all summer he is one we should sign.

Lots of opposition for this one just hope it’s not Piroe mk2 and we dilly dally

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