gio1saints Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 (edited) On 25/08/2023 at 10:18, Smirking_Saint said: ABK Im assuming is gone but surely Lyanco knows his time is up, we’ve clearly tried to shift him and even took his number off him Expand I think Holgate and hopefully Wood are in to replace two or three out of ABK, Lyanco, KWP, Larios, Bree and Perraud. Both are potential starters but probably would be bench at first. Given the high number of games and the increased booking suspensions from new rules this season plus more injuries ( from playing 100minutes not 90) they will certainly get good game time and opportunity to claim starter spots. Id prefer we kept KWP and ABK of course out of the five most at risk… Edited 25 August, 2023 by gio1saints 2
Saint_lambden Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 "Sign some experience!".... "No not that experience!" 6 18
hypochondriac Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 Shame the link with Vyner seems to have disappeared. Their fans are desperate to keep him and said he was their most improved player. 1
Appy Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 Larios is that one player that I’ll never remember that we still have unless someone else mentions him.
Guest Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 On 25/08/2023 at 09:04, Saint Scott said: I stand corrected. Fraser and Holgate in today then Expand Hopefully this means that Djenepo is on his way rather than Tella or Sulemana.
mitch01 Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 The loan moves aren't the most exciting but they are probably good, pragmatic, low-cost moves in terms of putting points on the board this season. It gives us the chance to take some more transfer fees in to balance the books (hopefully not Sule, Tella AND Adams though) while still being in a strong position to go up, when we can recruit from a position of strength. Hope and expect we supplement these with some of the younger, more left-field players we've been linked to, as well as a few well-chosen bigger money moves (e.g. Wood). Also hope Fraser doesn't block SAA from the lineup. 2
Baird of the land Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 Is holgate link a purchase or another loan?
Appy Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 On 25/08/2023 at 10:29, hypochondriac said: Shame the link with Vyner seems to have disappeared. Their fans are desperate to keep him and said he was their most improved player. Expand Have you ever seen him play?
Rebel Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 Please tell me Moussa Djenepo is leaving - still can't believe he was nearly out of contract last year and they gave him 2 more years. It looks like he's a nice person and he has some talent with the football - and he works hard - but he has no end product and no football brain. Aribo is another one I hope leaves - is lack of effort and movement is just terrible. I don't think we'd replace either one if they left. We just wouldn't miss them. And please let it be Sulemana that is off - not Tella. 2
trousers Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 On 25/08/2023 at 10:29, Baird of the land said: Is holgate link a purchase or another loan? Expand Loan
Guest Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 On 25/08/2023 at 10:29, Appy said: Larios is that one player that I’ll never remember that we still have unless someone else mentions him. Expand To be honest I only remember Joe Aribo when he’s mentioned. He was non-existent all last season - and he wasn’t injured!
Toadhall Saint Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 On 25/08/2023 at 10:27, FarehamSaintJames said: Everton have about thirty CB’s don’t they? Feels that way the last few years, all of which have been as successful as the last. 😂 Bit of a utility signing Mason Holgate, I wouldn’t ever say I’ve seen him play shit, just feels like another squad player. Can’t say I was particularly wowed by the Swansea CB, as I said before, he conceded a fair few in this league last season, it would be nice to have some commanding and stocky figures at the back that can keep the odd clean sheet, and then make the step eventually into the Premier League. Expand He didn’t concede the goals he was part of a team that did - doesn’t mean he will be the same with different team members. 2
Dman Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 On 25/08/2023 at 10:29, Appy said: Larios is that one player that I’ll never remember that we still have unless someone else mentions him. Expand funny enough, I think he'll be absolutely superb in Martins system. Is he injured still? 1
Suhari Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 On 25/08/2023 at 09:57, LGTL said: Not sure I’m buying this. Him and Howe clearly don’t like one another, and it was personal. Expand A Pardew/Fonte scenario?
CSA96 Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 On 25/08/2023 at 10:36, Suhari said: A Pardew/Fonte scenario? Expand Reminds me of the Darren Ferguson / Richard Chaplow stuff too. They’d both slagged each other off and Preston sold Chaplow to us for a measly £50k to get him out. Turned out to be a good pickup and never anything other than a good egg in the dressing room, based on how his teammates here spoke of him. 3
Convict Colony Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 Just a fyi think Martin's is well aware about what Fraser can do was in Scotland squad with him in 2017. 3
Smirking_Saint Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 On 25/08/2023 at 10:43, Convict Colony said: Just a fyi think Martin's is well aware about what Fraser can do was in Scotland squad with him in 2017. Expand Im no doubt he’ll be a good option at this level but we have; Tella, Sully, Edozie, SAA, Djenepo, Aribo, Doyle, Adam Armstrong - All able to play on the wing 1
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 Leeds apparently in advanced talks for Paintsil. Deal to be worth around £8.5m 3
Baird of the land Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 I'm rather nervous seeing all the loan links personally. Especially if we end up selling good players for big money we should be keeping & replacing with this. Feels like there's a lot of hedging of bets going on rather than a commitment to getting promotion.
hypochondriac Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 On 25/08/2023 at 10:50, Golac's Cunning Stunts said: Leeds apparently in advanced talks for Paintsil. Deal to be worth around £8.5m Expand Hopefully that gives them the cash to buy Onuachu. 4
disconnect Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 On 25/08/2023 at 10:33, Dman said: funny enough, I think he'll be absolutely superb in Martins system. Is he injured still? Expand Just coming back from injury, not sure if may have played in the closed doors friendly. Personally thought he looked like a very promising player, thrown into a bit of a disaster, just small and lightweight, but would suit a passing style for sure. 1
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 On 25/08/2023 at 10:51, Baird of the land said: I'm rather nervous seeing all the loan links personally. Especially if we end up selling good players for big money we should be keeping & replacing with this. Feels like there's a lot of hedging of bets going on rather than a commitment to getting promotion. Expand I think loan deals are always a big part of teams strategies when relegated from the PL. I know there needs to be a balance, but you don't want to be stuck with a load of championship players on long contracts if you find yourself promoted back to the PL? 3
Dman Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 On 25/08/2023 at 10:50, Golac's Cunning Stunts said: Leeds apparently in advanced talks for Paintsil. Deal to be worth around £8.5m Expand so it turns out that all those targets happy to wait for us, are really just waiting for Leeds to pip us to the post 😂 1 1
Saint Scott Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 (edited) On 25/08/2023 at 10:50, Golac's Cunning Stunts said: Leeds apparently in advanced talks for Paintsil. Deal to be worth around £8.5m Expand Seems to be the same structure that Ornstein mentioned for us agreeing with Genk for the Onuachu swap deal. £8m +£2m in addons Leeds funding the Onuachu departure, lovely! Edited 25 August, 2023 by Saint Scott 3
Dman Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 On 25/08/2023 at 10:56, Saint Scott said: Seems to be the same structure the Ornstein mentioned for us agreeing with Genk for the Onuachu swap deal. £8m +£2m in addons Leeds funding the Onuachu departure, lovely! Expand They're getting a winger we wanted - much like the Piroe deal, this is not a good outcome for us at all. 1
Streaky Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 On 25/08/2023 at 10:33, Dman said: funny enough, I think he'll be absolutely superb in Martins system. Is he injured still? Expand That's a good point, technically very good. You'd have to be coming through barca's academy and then man city. His problems other than injuries will come from being so small. Hopefully can toughen up and put the injuries behind him, could be like a new signing. Guess we will find out this season. Sink or swim time for him I think. 1
hypochondriac Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 On 25/08/2023 at 10:58, Dman said: They're getting a winger we wanted - much like the Piroe deal, this is not a good outcome for us at all. Expand It's good if it gets rid of Onuachu. Not sure what available striker we will bring in though.
skintsaint Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 On 25/08/2023 at 10:59, hypochondriac said: It's good if it gets rid of Onuachu. Not sure what available striker we will bring in though. Expand I doubt he will be replaced at all.
Saint Scott Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 On 25/08/2023 at 10:58, Dman said: They're getting a winger we wanted - much like the Piroe deal, this is not a good outcome for us at all. Expand Nobody had heard of Paintsil before a few days ago, and how did our last signing from the Belgian league turn out? @manji has also mentioned we have a different ST target to Piroe. Lets see what the next week brings
23rdSaint Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 (edited) On 25/08/2023 at 10:58, Dman said: They're getting a winger we wanted - much like the Piroe deal, this is not a good outcome for us at all. Expand A question that I don't think anyone will know the answer to – would we have wanted him if Onuachu wasn't here or was he one of many winger options that was slightly more convenient if there was the potential for a swap deal? Edited 25 August, 2023 by 23rdSaint Poor grammar 1
hypochondriac Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 On 25/08/2023 at 11:00, skintsaint said: I doubt he will be replaced at all. Expand We have Adams and Mara as our two striker options. We need someone. 1
Smirking_Saint Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 (edited) On 25/08/2023 at 11:02, hypochondriac said: We have Adams and Mara as our two striker options. We need someone. Expand We have Adams, Mara and Armstrong and probably Ballard Edited 25 August, 2023 by Smirking_Saint 3
Dman Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 (edited) On 25/08/2023 at 11:00, Saint Scott said: Nobody had heard of Paintsil before a few days ago, and how did our last signing from the Belgian league turn out? @manji has also mentioned we have a different ST target to Piroe. Lets see what the next week brings Expand Manji hasn't got a clue what he's on about. He likes to pretend his 'ITK' but he just talks absolutely shit because his tongue is lodged firmly up the arse of the hipster favourite, Rasmus Edited 25 August, 2023 by Dman 3 1 1
skintsaint Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 On 25/08/2023 at 11:02, hypochondriac said: We have Adams and Mara as our two striker options. We need someone. Expand Armstrong & Ballard too, have enough depth for a formation of one up front.
skintsaint Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 On 25/08/2023 at 11:05, Dman said: He likes to pretend his 'ITK Expand Sounds like he is a cert for the Circle of Trust. 1
Saint Scott Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 On 25/08/2023 at 11:05, Dman said: Manji hasn't got a clue what he's on about. He likes to pretend his 'ITK' but he just talks absolutely shit because his tongue is lodged firmly up the arse of the hipster favourite, Rassums Expand Sounds like somebody has been cut off from the CoT overlord that is Turkish 2
Dman Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 On 25/08/2023 at 11:05, skintsaint said: Armstrong & Ballard too, have enough depth for a formation of one up front. Expand Armstrong isn't a number 9. Ballard unproven at this level. going into the season with Che as our only feasible option to rely upon would be suicide. That's ignoring the fact Che is likely to leave. 1
James Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 Bit worrying Paintsil didn't want to come here but is happy to join the shit show at Elland Road... 2
Dman Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 On 25/08/2023 at 11:07, Saint Scott said: Sounds like somebody has been cut off from the CoT overlord that is Turkish Expand Or the fact being deeply embedded with the CoT means I know 'Mental Manji' is talking out of his arse. Keep lapping it up tho nipper - We've got loads of signings lined up - we're on the charge across this week with our war chest. 1
davefizzy14 Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 (edited) Two very smart acquisitions in my opinion in both Holgate and Fraser. Edited 25 August, 2023 by davefizzy14 4
miserableoldgit Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 On 25/08/2023 at 10:08, sfc4prem said: I'm going to give Wilcox and Martin the benefit of the doubt with these signings and any others we get in. Let's see how they get on. Expand Whoa!! Slow down old bean! You know that that is not the way that TSW works, don't you....?
Viking Saint Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 On 25/08/2023 at 10:29, FarehamSaintJames said: Hopefully this means that Djenepo is on his way rather than Tella or Sulemana. Expand Need to factor in that Orsic, Walcott and Elyounoussi have all gone, so we are theoretically down on wingers
egg Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 On 25/08/2023 at 11:08, James said: Bit worrying Paintsil didn't want to come here but is happy to join the shit show at Elland Road... Expand Why would he want to come here and be behind Tella, Edozie, AA, Sam? Or would you want to bin one of those off for a lad you've (presumably) never heard of until he was linked a couple of weeks ago? 1
hypochondriac Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 On 25/08/2023 at 11:04, Smirking_Saint said: We have Adams, Mara and Armstrong and probably Ballard Expand Armstrong doesn't perform the same role as Adams. Ballard is a youth option off the bench. Personally I'd try and get rid of Mara because he isn't good enough. 2
hypochondriac Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 On 25/08/2023 at 11:13, egg said: Why would he want to come here and be behind Tella, Edozie, AA, Sam? Or would you want to bin one of those off for a lad you've (presumably) never heard of until he was linked a couple of weeks ago? Expand And that's fine if all of them stay. 1
beavis17 Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 Hear Adams and Tella might not be in training today 😟 1 3
hypochondriac Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 (edited) On 25/08/2023 at 11:14, beavis17 said: Hear Adams and Tella might not be in training today 😟 Expand Imagine losing both of them and looking at who we've brought in. The success of this transfer window and indeed our season will hinge now almost entirely on what happens to four players imo (ABK, Tella, Adams and KWP). Edited 25 August, 2023 by hypochondriac 4
Appy Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 On 25/08/2023 at 11:14, beavis17 said: Hear Adams and Tella might not be in training today 😟 Expand Hear from who?
Baird of the land Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 On 25/08/2023 at 11:14, beavis17 said: Hear Adams and Tella might not be in training today 😟 Expand I'm resigned to Adams leaving. Hopefully Tella is just injured as i'd be gutted if he leaves, especially if the replacement is a poor loan like Fraser.
Dman Posted 25 August, 2023 Posted 25 August, 2023 On 25/08/2023 at 11:17, Appy said: Hear from who? Expand Probably the same person who told him we had a winger in for a medical today before the news broke. Clearly has some info from someone. 4
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