Dman Posted 3 May, 2023 Posted 3 May, 2023 On 03/05/2023 at 14:47, Baz Fl said: He wasn't when Brentford were in the Championship. Strong, fast, physical and an eye for goal he had all that long before the England call up. Our current strike force misses almost all of these attributes. Broja was the closest player we had to this in recent times, type of player that could create and finish single handed. Expand It was said in jest, but yes, if we can find someone who will go on to be an international striker then we’d have done very well. Unlikely though, it has to be said. On the subject of Broja, is it out of the question? Coming back from a bad injury, no doubt will need games? Far too good for the championship, would probably be starting for Chelsea now had it not been for the injury, but who knows how he’ll recover… championship would provide a lower pressure environment 3
Miltonaggro Posted 3 May, 2023 Posted 3 May, 2023 On 03/05/2023 at 10:55, Turkish said: Yes, people were worried Liverpool were going to poach him, that he could be our Alex Ferguson and he was described as the next great English manager Yep that was true as well, people were convinced our League one side would beat England if they played each other. Expand By that logic Nigel Adkins should have led an England team of League 1 Saints to winning the world cup, yet another avoidable cock up by the FA and Nicola Cortese! 1
HarvSFC Posted 3 May, 2023 Posted 3 May, 2023 On 03/05/2023 at 10:49, Chez said: It's kind of shame we haven't got a manager in place (that we intend to go forward with) that can assess players over the next month. When Newcastle went down and got immediate promotion, Benitez took over in mid-March, so had some time to see what the squad is all about. Expand Another example being Kompany, who was named Burnley manager on 14th June, three weeks after the season was completed. On a separate topic, I think we all know that Liam Delap will be our priority striker target again this summer after two pretty awful loans at Stoke and Preston. See if Wilcox has a fascination with Manchester City youth players like Shields did.
Convict Colony Posted 3 May, 2023 Posted 3 May, 2023 Full disclosure on Kompany. I've followed him for the last few years and said on here in the summer when he joined Burnley i thought he would be dog shit. Please do not listen to my comments or views on managers, i know less that i do about footballers. 6
Guest Posted 3 May, 2023 Posted 3 May, 2023 On 03/05/2023 at 17:02, Master Bates said: Trabzonspor bid for Orsic Expand He’ll go back to Dinamo Zagreb.
bangkoksaint Posted 3 May, 2023 Posted 3 May, 2023 On 03/05/2023 at 16:34, HarvSFC said: Another example being Kompany, who was named Burnley manager on 14th June, three weeks after the season was completed. On a separate topic, I think we all know that Liam Delap will be our priority striker target again this summer after two pretty awful loans at Stoke and Preston. See if Wilcox has a fascination with Manchester City youth players like Shields did. Expand Lucky we didn’t waste circa £18M on a striker that doesn’t score wasn’t it!!
Fabrice29 Posted 3 May, 2023 Posted 3 May, 2023 On 03/05/2023 at 16:34, HarvSFC said: Another example being Kompany, who was named Burnley manager on 14th June, three weeks after the season was completed. On a separate topic, I think we all know that Liam Delap will be our priority striker target again this summer after two pretty awful loans at Stoke and Preston. See if Wilcox has a fascination with Manchester City youth players like Shields did. Expand It wouldn't be fair to write off someone so young based on their first season of first team football so if Wilcox, someone who has worked closely with him and been close to his development, feels he would be a good signing then I don't see the issue. Remember City refused to sell him permanently last season because they rate him highly. 1
Baird of the land Posted 3 May, 2023 Posted 3 May, 2023 On 02/05/2023 at 20:40, Lee On Solent Saint said: How many loan slots do Championship clubs get? Could be a crucial market for us to exploit in the summer Expand Given the number of young players we already have in 1st team squad, the bloated nature our squad we need to dispose of and the talent in the B team i'd be wary of too many loans. What we need is experienced players to help turn the culture round(last time round we had the likes of Fonte, Hammond and Rickie.) 1
woodsaint1 Posted 3 May, 2023 Posted 3 May, 2023 Our recruitment needs to be spot on this summer, especially attacking wise. While you would expect the likes of Adams, Mara, Onuachu and Alcaraz (if they stay) to chip in with goals in the championship, we desperately need a creative spark. Zaroury at Burnley and McAtee at Sheff Utd (we were linked with him) are perfect examples of such players recruited for next to nothing (or on loan). Recruitment under SR has had it ups and downs, and its still hard to judge some of the January signings coming into a basket case of a club and working under Jones/Selles. One things for sure, we'll definitely sign some kid from City, likely on loan 😂 1
Golac's Cunning Stunts Posted 3 May, 2023 Posted 3 May, 2023 On 03/05/2023 at 10:55, Turkish said: Yes, people were worried Liverpool were going to poach him, that he could be our Alex Ferguson and he was described as the next great English manager Yep that was true as well, people were convinced our League one side would beat England if they played each other. Expand Yep I remember that. I do think our League 1 side would beat our current (not for much longer) prem side though 1
lambtiss Posted 3 May, 2023 Posted 3 May, 2023 On 03/05/2023 at 14:47, Baz Fl said: He wasn't when Brentford were in the Championship. Strong, fast, physical and a eye for goal he had all that long before the England call up. Our current strike force misses almost all of these attributes. Broja was the closest player we had to this in recent times, type of player that could create and finish single handed. Expand Ricky Lambert wasn’t when we were in League 1 1
lambtiss Posted 3 May, 2023 Posted 3 May, 2023 On 03/05/2023 at 17:57, bangkoksaint said: Lucky we didn’t waste circa £18M on a striker that doesn’t score wasn’t it!! Expand He might score, if we actually played him. 8
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 3 May, 2023 Posted 3 May, 2023 On 03/05/2023 at 19:01, Baird of the land said: Given the number of young players we already have in 1st team squad, the bloated nature our squad we need to dispose of and the talent in the B team i'd be wary of too many loans. What we need is experienced players to help turn the culture round(last time round we had the likes of Fonte, Hammond and Rickie.) Expand Agreed. But loan players don't necessarily need to be youngsters. See Walcott and Minamino for that.
stevy777_x Posted 3 May, 2023 Posted 3 May, 2023 On 03/05/2023 at 19:59, lambtiss said: He might score, if we actually played him. Expand He s shit.
Convict Colony Posted 4 May, 2023 Posted 4 May, 2023 On 03/05/2023 at 17:02, Master Bates said: Trabzonspor bid for Orsic Expand Gozteppe better pull their finger out and demand mates rates
Guest Posted 4 May, 2023 Posted 4 May, 2023 Calling bullshit in terms of the reporting. Anything from Talksport is to be taken with a pinch of salt, and anything from Alex Crook is to be disregarded until proven otherwise. Similar to The Athletic in terms of the “no shit Sherlock” headline. Anyone could’ve predicted they’d be a mass overhaul for fuck sake. 🤣
Turkish Posted 4 May, 2023 Posted 4 May, 2023 (edited) On 04/05/2023 at 10:39, goodymatt said: Expand another nice little loss, signed for £6m, £80k a week and sold for £3m. Someone tell Rasmus his excel formulas have got a bug. Edited 4 May, 2023 by Turkish 5
woodsaint1 Posted 4 May, 2023 Posted 4 May, 2023 On 04/05/2023 at 11:13, Turkish said: another nice little lose, signed for £6m, £80k a week and sold for £3m. Someone tell Rasmus his excel formulas have got a bug. Expand 80k a week and contributing f all 1 1
Turkish Posted 4 May, 2023 Posted 4 May, 2023 On 04/05/2023 at 11:25, woodsaint1 said: 80k a week and contributing f all Expand 7 minutes of premier league football wasn't it?
Dusic Posted 4 May, 2023 Posted 4 May, 2023 On 04/05/2023 at 11:36, Turkish said: 7 minutes of premier league football wasn't it? Expand He has increased the standard and level of competition in training which has pushed on the likes of Elyounoussi and Adam Armstrong to new heights. Fair play to them for keeping him out. 1 2
Saint86 Posted 4 May, 2023 Posted 4 May, 2023 Could see theo getting a 1year extension for the championship, albeit on reduced wages. He would do a job for us at that level compared to most of our attackers - that much is clear - and he is ultimately an experienced player with a love of the club and a positive role model for younger players. He has however said that he wants to step back from the playing side of the game, so can certainly see him not being at saints next year. 1
Weston Super Saint Posted 4 May, 2023 Posted 4 May, 2023 On 04/05/2023 at 11:13, Turkish said: another nice little lose, signed for £6m, £80k a week and sold for £3m. Someone tell Rasmus his excel formulas have got a bug. Expand I'm pretty sure you're not able to see all the work that goes in behind the scenes and on the training ground. This could be very good value for money for all we know... 2
Badger Posted 4 May, 2023 Posted 4 May, 2023 On 04/05/2023 at 12:19, Weston Super Saint said: I'm pretty sure you're not able to see all the work that goes in behind the scenes and on the training ground. This could be very good value for money for all we know... Expand It’s a crying shame we didn’t get to see just how good Orsic was without the ball in the first team. 2
Weston Super Saint Posted 4 May, 2023 Posted 4 May, 2023 On 04/05/2023 at 12:33, Badger said: It’s a crying shame we didn’t get to see just how good Orsic was without the ball in the first team. Expand I imagine there will be volumes of statistics and metrics released once he moves on which will justify the wages - just as soon as the NDA has expired. We'll miss him when he's gone. Always the way.
Chez Posted 4 May, 2023 Posted 4 May, 2023 On 04/05/2023 at 10:42, FarehamSaintJames said: Calling bullshit in terms of the reporting. Anything from Talksport is to be taken with a pinch of salt, and anything from Alex Crook is to be disregarded until proven otherwise. Similar to The Athletic in terms of the “no shit Sherlock” headline. Anyone could’ve predicted they’d be a mass overhaul for fuck sake. 🤣 Expand It's worth noting that Selles was interviewed on Talksport this lunchtime, and no doubt the club's media team will have been involved in setting that up. I wonder then, if one or two other items were discussed (offline) during that process, that has subsequently led to these news reports coming out today? The Orsic item certainly reads like a club fed item to me, helping to drum up interest in him no doubt.
skintsaint Posted 4 May, 2023 Posted 4 May, 2023 On 04/05/2023 at 12:14, Saint86 said: Could see theo getting a 1year extension for the championship, albeit on reduced wages. He would do a job for us at that level compared to most of our attackers - that much is clear - and he is ultimately an experienced player with a love of the club and a positive role model for younger players. He has however said that he wants to step back from the playing side of the game, so can certainly see him not being at saints next year. Expand Hope not, Tella can come in and take his spot as will do a job for us now.
Weston Super Saint Posted 4 May, 2023 Posted 4 May, 2023 On 04/05/2023 at 13:22, Chez said: It's worth noting that Selles was interviewed on Talksport this lunchtime, and no doubt the club's media team will have been involved in setting that up. I wonder then, if one or two other items were discussed (offline) during that process, that has subsequently led to these news reports coming out today? The Orsic item certainly reads like a club fed item to me, helping to drum up interest in him no doubt. Expand Wouldn't it be better to drum up interest in him by putting him on the pitch and showing what he can do?
Turkish Posted 4 May, 2023 Posted 4 May, 2023 On 04/05/2023 at 16:20, AlexLaw76 said: Expand What a strange post. The turkish fella is current on loan at Fenerbahce but only played 4 times. Im not sure who would want Bazunu either. 1
Chez Posted 4 May, 2023 Posted 4 May, 2023 On 04/05/2023 at 15:46, Weston Super Saint said: Wouldn't it be better to drum up interest in him by putting him on the pitch and showing what he can do? Expand After seeing what he could in his previous games, which was the square route of fuck all, maybe keeping him off the pitch is prudent.
Badger Posted 4 May, 2023 Posted 4 May, 2023 On 04/05/2023 at 16:23, Turkish said: What a strange post. The turkish fella is current on loan at Fenerbahce but only played 4 times. Im not sure who would want Bazunu either. Expand Yet again, perhaps, our scouts and Rasmus see something in him that no one else can. Emperors clothes and all that. If only someone dare tell Rasmus … “don’t be a cunt” 3 1
Badger Posted 4 May, 2023 Posted 4 May, 2023 (edited) Or perhaps this Irfan chap goes to Goztepe. They are the bigger club after all Just read he’s from Goztpe. So perhaps we take some of their cast offs. Edited 4 May, 2023 by Badger
AlexLaw76 Posted 4 May, 2023 Posted 4 May, 2023 On 04/05/2023 at 16:34, Badger said: Or perhaps this Irfan chap goes to Goztepe. They are the bigger club after all Just read he’s from Goztpe. So perhaps we take some of their cast offs. Expand He must be a very front-footed goalie for this to be a serious thing!
Saint86 Posted 4 May, 2023 Posted 4 May, 2023 On 04/05/2023 at 16:20, AlexLaw76 said: Expand That twitter handle is not very reliable - and also this would be a stupid decision.
Weston Super Saint Posted 4 May, 2023 Posted 4 May, 2023 On 04/05/2023 at 16:29, Chez said: After seeing what he could in his previous games, which was the square route of fuck all, maybe keeping him off the pitch is prudent. Expand Maybe let them watch training sessions. He's the bollocks in them.
captainchris Posted 4 May, 2023 Posted 4 May, 2023 On 03/05/2023 at 19:38, woodsaint1 said: Our recruitment needs to be spot on this summer, especially attacking wise. While you would expect the likes of Adams, Mara, Onuachu and Alcaraz (if they stay) to chip in with goals in the championship, we desperately need a creative spark. Zaroury at Burnley and McAtee at Sheff Utd (we were linked with him) are perfect examples of such players recruited for next to nothing (or on loan). Recruitment under SR has had it ups and downs, and its still hard to judge some of the January signings coming into a basket case of a club and working under Jones/Selles. One things for sure, we'll definitely sign some kid from City, likely on loan 😂 Expand What about Ballard! This guy needs to be given games in the first team or truly what is the point in the academy set up… 4
Turkish Posted 4 May, 2023 Posted 4 May, 2023 On 04/05/2023 at 17:26, Saint86 said: That twitter handle is not very reliable - and also this would be a stupid decision. Expand When it comes to Twitter I only believe Andrew says
SNSUN Posted 4 May, 2023 Posted 4 May, 2023 Depending on whether we need a CB in the summer (is it beyond the realms of possibility that we'll still have DCC, Lyanco, Stephens, Bednarek and Simeu even if ABK and Salisu go? DCC is the one I want to stay but maybe that's wishful thinking...) but I've been catching up on players in the Championship this season and a lot of people are rating Auston Trusty, a tall 24 year old American CB from Arsenal who has been on loan at Birmingham. Seems to be consistent and reliable and is a good age too. Depends if Arsenal want to keep him I guess. We should be one of the big fish in the Championship next season (over to you Sports Republic) so it would be nice to attract some of the bigger names that the Championship has to offer. Though I think someone like Gyorkeres is headed for the top flight, there must be a few gems we could pilfer.
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 4 May, 2023 Posted 4 May, 2023 On 04/05/2023 at 19:45, SNSUN said: Depending on whether we need a CB in the summer (is it beyond the realms of possibility that we'll still have DCC, Lyanco, Stephens, Bednarek and Simeu even if ABK and Salisu go? DCC is the one I want to stay but maybe that's wishful thinking...) but I've been catching up on players in the Championship this season and a lot of people are rating Auston Trusty, a tall 24 year old American CB from Arsenal who has been on loan at Birmingham. Seems to be consistent and reliable and is a good age too. Depends if Arsenal want to keep him I guess. We should be one of the big fish in the Championship next season (over to you Sports Republic) so it would be nice to attract some of the bigger names that the Championship has to offer. Though I think someone like Gyorkeres is headed for the top flight, there must be a few gems we could pilfer. Expand The lad from Swansea, Piroe? He seems to know where the net is at Championship level. You would think we would be a more attractive proposition if we had an interest.
SNSUN Posted 4 May, 2023 Posted 4 May, 2023 On 04/05/2023 at 19:54, Lee On Solent Saint said: The lad from Swansea, Piroe? He seems to know where the net is at Championship level. You would think we would be a more attractive proposition if we had an interest. Expand 19 goals this season, not Haaland levels of prolific but he is playing in an average Swansea side. at 23 though he does seem to be a prospect that could improve further. He's out of contract in 2024 so Swansea may cash in. Apparently Obafemi has been told he's unfit by Burnley staff but I believe he is still set to move there permanently so that leaves Swansea looking for a new striker if Piroe does leave. 1
redkeith Posted 5 May, 2023 Posted 5 May, 2023 Any Reading players worth looking at ? Can't believe we didn't go after Olise when he was there. Joa always looked useful up front. Better than AA at least .
Pengi Posted 5 May, 2023 Posted 5 May, 2023 (edited) On 04/05/2023 at 10:39, goodymatt said: Expand Supposing a miracle happened and we stayed up - what would SR do? Seriously this is so disappointing, publicly putting out that we are waiting for relegation. Whatever must Ruben and the players think - nothing to play for and Ruben knowing that his contract is not being renewed. This is the lowest point in my time as a Saints fan - ever lower than when we went into Admin. Edited 5 May, 2023 by Pengi added 1
Lighthouse Posted 5 May, 2023 Posted 5 May, 2023 On 04/05/2023 at 18:06, captainchris said: What about Ballard! This guy needs to be given games in the first team or truly what is the point in the academy set up… Expand He’s just turned 18, he’ll be given games if and when he’s ready for it. There’s no point just chucking him in for the sake of it.
Convict Colony Posted 5 May, 2023 Posted 5 May, 2023 Couple of thoughts. Admire the call for more youngsters to get into the team, however putting youngsters into the team before they were ready was how we got here in the first place. We need to be careful and play them more as subs etc. Talking of youngsters I would like to Simeu given a shirt number in the squad. Played well over the last 2 seasons in loans to L2 and L1, seems like a leader as well, would have in the squad for sure and would be used to the big forward man type football we can sometimes expect.
Guest Posted 5 May, 2023 Posted 5 May, 2023 Once again, The Athletic writing articles stating the bleeding obvious… 🙄
Fabrice29 Posted 5 May, 2023 Posted 5 May, 2023 On 05/05/2023 at 08:26, FarehamSaintJames said: Once again, The Athletic writing articles stating the bleeding obvious… 🙄 Expand You mean… ‘player you think is leaving is probably leaving unless of course he doesn’t’ isn’t ground breaking journalism?
Charlie Wayman Posted 5 May, 2023 Posted 5 May, 2023 On 04/05/2023 at 11:25, woodsaint1 said: 80k a week and contributing f all Expand Tosh as usual. He's been our best player in recent matches. Not saying much I know but at least he's had a good go at trying to keep us afloat. Surprised he hasn't been offered a coaching role with the youngsters as he has a very good attitude towards young players
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