Summer Transfer Window 2023

[SotonianWill]

If everton stay up we should definitely go for James Garner

[tdmickey3]

17 hours ago, SotonianWill said:

there is a god…

Best news of the season

[FarehamSaintJames]

Rumoured that Cristiano Ronaldo already wants out of Al Nassr.

🤣

Man United called his bluff massively. All this “there are plenty of big teams I’ll go to”, and not one of them is dumb enough to pay his obscene wages (and rightly so), hence the Middle East transfer.

Couldn’t have happened to a bigger bell. 😂

[AlexLaw76]

Smallbone being quoted as talking up his desire to return to saints...

[whelk]

Who the hell was behind even offering Elynoussi a new contract? What if the fucker had signed it!

[Jeremy Corbyn]

1 hour ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

Rumoured that Cristiano Ronaldo already wants out of Al Nassr.

🤣

Man United called his bluff massively. All this “there are plenty of big teams I’ll go to”, and not one of them is dumb enough to pay his obscene wages (and rightly so), hence the Middle East transfer.

Couldn’t have happened to a bigger bell. 😂

Easy on the critisms, he might see this and be deterred from partnering Tall Paul up front next season.

[Weston Super Saint]

29 minutes ago, Jeremy Corbyn said:

Easy on the critisms, he might see this and be deterred from partnering Tall Paul up front next season.

Do you think Paul will get the move to the middle East?

[Chez]

2 hours ago, whelk said:

Who the hell was behind even offering Elynoussi a new contract? What if the fucker had signed it!

same guy that gave McCarthy and Djenepo new deals. Ralph.

[Turkish]

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/arsenal-transfer-news-patino-sale-buy-back-b1077998.html
 

we’ll be in for him I’d have thought 

[Lighthouse]

8 hours ago, whelk said:

Who the hell was behind even offering Elynoussi a new contract? What if the fucker had signed it!

I think our owners may have jumped the shark here. We’ve crossed the line from incompetence to needing a CT scan and a radon survey.

6 hours ago, Chez said:

same guy that gave McCarthy and Djenepo new deals. Ralph.

Since when did managers offer contracts?

[Badger]

9 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Smallbone being quoted as talking up his desire to return to saints...

Amazing what spending twelve months in Stoke can do for your desire to be somewhere else. 

[Badger]

26 minutes ago, Turkish said:

https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/arsenal-transfer-news-patino-sale-buy-back-b1077998.html
 

we’ll be in for him I’d have thought 

Probably, but Qwerty has already called this into question:

19 hours ago, qwertyell said:

Sounds about right for Twitter experts.

Blackpool fans will tell you Patino is the slowest player they've ever seen and physically underdeveloped for men's football.

An unholy hybrid of Elyounoussi and Jake Hesketh. 

But what do fans know ? He might rate highly on the Rasmusometer 

[Lee On Solent Saint]

How many loan slots do Championship clubs get? Could be a crucial market for us to exploit in the summer 

[Pamplemousse]

Patino scored against us in the FA Cup. Actually that's not exactly saying much

[Hodgey]

We need some big players - we’ve somehow ended up with a really small squad, and our promising youngsters are also small. Need a few big players in that league who can put it about, ones that can run about for more than 20mins too. 
looking back that’s what we did when we dropped to league 1 - Jaidi, Lambert, Fonte, Guly - even the likes of Hammond could put it about. Then we complimented them with players like Hooivelt and Cork who could also handle physical games. 
This squad is far too lightweight for that league

[HarvSFC]

9 minutes ago, Hodgey said:

We need some big players - we’ve somehow ended up with a really small squad, and our promising youngsters are also small. Need a few big players in that league who can put it about, ones that can run about for more than 20mins too. 
looking back that’s what we did when we dropped to league 1 - Jaidi, Lambert, Fonte, Guly - even the likes of Hammond could put it about. Then we complimented them with players like Hooivelt and Cork who could also handle physical games. 
This squad is far too lightweight for that league

Lincoln City bullying Bazunu for their goal the early warning sign, expect to see more of it if we don't get someone more commanding in goal next season. 

[Holmes_and_Watson]

4 minutes ago, HarvSFC said:

Lincoln City bullying Bazunu for their goal the early warning sign, expect to see more of it if we don't get someone more commanding in goal next season. 

Whew! We'll still have McCarthy for next season, so that's taken care of. 🙂

[stevy777_x]

1 minute ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Whew! We'll still have McCarthy for next season, so that's taken care of. 🙂

Bazunu is too small to be a top level keeper he may compensate it through good athleticism but he doesn’t quite occupy the goal like other top flight keepers.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

Just now, stevy777_x said:

Bazunu is too small to be a top level keeper he may compensate it through good athleticism but he doesn’t quite occupy the goal like other top flight keepers.

Something I thought Forster brought right from his arrival.

[Baz Fl]

28 minutes ago, Hodgey said:

We need some big players - we’ve somehow ended up with a really small squad, and our promising youngsters are also small. Need a few big players in that league who can put it about, ones that can run about for more than 20mins too. 
looking back that’s what we did when we dropped to league 1 - Jaidi, Lambert, Fonte, Guly - even the likes of Hammond could put it about. Then we complimented them with players like Hooivelt and Cork who could also handle physical games. 
This squad is far too lightweight for that league

Nathan was a clown but even he saw the squad was missing physically. We will get bullied in the Championship if nothing changes. Would love to see an Ivan Toney type striker coming in.

Edited 2 May, 2023 by Baz Fl

[Fabrice29]

14 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Whew! We'll still have McCarthy for next season, so that's taken care of. 🙂

McCarthy will not be here next season.

[Baz Fl]

Would like a Ivan Toney type striker

Edited 2 May, 2023 by Baz Fl

[Holmes_and_Watson]

16 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

McCarthy will not be here next season.

I was being a bit tongue-in-cheek there. 🙂

I'm sure the club will depserately try to offload him, as they've been no doubt trying for quite a while. I imagine his wages will drop significantly with relegation, and with a year left, will be a more attractive purchase for another club.

If that club were to be one in the Premier League, and he's first choice, it doesn't say much about our decision making/ team selection this season when he's been fit.
He could go and sit on a bench somewhere of course.

Other than that, even with the % deduction, he's still going to be well paid, so could easily see out his contract, just as Fraser did.

[ecurnew02]

I’d imagine Macca is gone, will probably end up with a top half team as their third keeper. I sometimes forget we have Lis as well. Just 9 games with Troyes this season.
 

 

[Saint Mikey]

Jamal Lascelles may be worth a shout to give us some physicality, experience and leadership. Not the best technically, but would be a leader and knows the Championship. 1 year left at Newcastle and clearly not going to even be in the squad next season. 

We need players through the spine like this to supplement the decent young players we have.

 

 

[lambtiss]

44 minutes ago, Saint Mikey said:

Jamal Lascelles may be worth a shout to give us some physicality, experience and leadership. Not the best technically, but would be a leader and knows the Championship. 1 year left at Newcastle and clearly not going to even be in the squad next season. 

We need players through the spine like this to supplement the decent young players we have.

 

 

Not a bad shout that. 

[AlexLaw76]

1 hour ago, Saint Mikey said:

Jamal Lascelles may be worth a shout to give us some physicality, experience and leadership. Not the best technically, but would be a leader and knows the Championship. 1 year left at Newcastle and clearly not going to even be in the squad next season. 

We need players through the spine like this to supplement the decent young players we have.

 

 

so, the club captain of Newcastle is just going to drop in the the Championship?

Really?

[Saint Mikey]

7 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

so, the club captain of Newcastle is just going to drop in the the Championship?

Really?

Hmmm. Where did I say he would automatically drop down? I said he may be worth a shout. I.e. we may consider him a good fit and he may consider coming to us. Club Captain really means fuck-all and I think you know that.

He's 29 and if he wants to play games it's either going to be with a newly promoted side, or with a club like us who should really have a decent chance of being promoted in the next couple of seasons.

 

[AlexLaw76]

14 minutes ago, Saint Mikey said:

Hmmm. Where did I say he would automatically drop down? I said he may be worth a shout. I.e. we may consider him a good fit and he may consider coming to us. Club Captain really means fuck-all and I think you know that.

He's 29 and if he wants to play games it's either going to be with a newly promoted side, or with a club like us who should really have a decent chance of being promoted in the next couple of seasons.

 

He is not worth a shout what so ever as he will not be playing Championship football at 29 years old, after captaining Newcastle (in/out of the side) for years.

Bournemouth, palace, burnley, Wolves and such like will be all over a player like that

[Turkish]

10 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

He is not worth a shout what so ever as he will not be playing Championship football at 29 years old, after captaining Newcastle (in/out of the side) for years.

Bournemouth, palace, burnley, Wolves and such like will be all over a player like that

Remember the league one days when some on here said we were the most attractive club in England outside of the top 4? 🤣

[Saint86]

32 minutes ago, Turkish said:

Remember the league one days when some on here said we were the most attractive club in England outside of the top 4? 🤣

That surely was not a thing?!?!?! 😄

[Badger]

12 hours ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

How many loan slots do Championship clubs get? Could be a crucial market for us to exploit in the summer 

That’s a good and interesting point. 
 

I think Burnley have exploited that route to their advantage quite well. Forest also in the year they were promoted. So much so that they had a depleted squad after everyone went back to their own clubs ( but they then replaced them all multiple times over).

 

[Wiggles31]

Actually excited at the prospect of a squad overhaul provided we can ship out as many as possible. 

[Rebel]

We definitely need a major squad overhaul to get rid of the deadwood, and change the losing mentality of the players. 

We also need to add some experience and leadership to the squad - and provide a solid spine the team can be built around and create a framework upon which the good young players we have can be developed.

And the other thing we need to add is some physicality to the team.

Once the saleable assets - Lavia, JWP, KWP, Salisu and ABK - have been sold to generate some cashflow and the players that don't want to be here have moved on (Orsic, Diallo, Elyounoussi) we won't have much of a squad left .

Even if we keep the potentially good young players in Livramentio, Alcaraz, Sulemana, Edozie, Mara and Bazunu and bring back Smallbone and Tella we will still need to add depth and experience to the squad or next season will be another one of struggle.

We probably need to add 6 or 7 proven players to the squad - at the very least a first choice goalkeeper,  a  goal scoring striker,  a central holding midfielder,  a dominating centre back and a  left back and a right back.

And that will allow us to use the other returning players like Lis, Simeu, Watts, Chauke, N'Lundulu and Olaigbe - plus the youngsters like Ballard, Doyle and Payne to add depth to the squad - and give them a chance to develop without throwing them to the wolves. 

 

 

 

[Dman]

12 hours ago, Baz Fl said:

Would like a Ivan Toney type striker

An England international level striker..? Wouldn’t we all. 

[Dman]

1 hour ago, Saint86 said:

That surely was not a thing?!?!?! 😄

Of course it was, we had idiots claiming Adkins should be the next England manager. 

[Dman]

2 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

He is not worth a shout what so ever as he will not be playing Championship football at 29 years old, after captaining Newcastle (in/out of the side) for years.

Bournemouth, palace, burnley, Wolves and such like will be all over a player like that

Not really applicable to Lascelles, as it’s not going to happen for him, but the chance of many dropping down is very slim given the euro‘s are next summer. 
 

Also why JWP will not be playing in the championship next season. 

 

[The Kraken]

2 hours ago, Turkish said:

Remember the league one days when some on here said we were the most attractive club in England outside of the top 4? 🤣

Fairly sure when we were in league one someone piped up with the idea that our side would beat England. Sadly enough a small number of people actually agreed with it.

[Miltonaggro]

On 02/05/2023 at 09:15, SotonianWill said:

If everton stay up we should definitely go for James Garner

Should have got him in January, handy in terms of planning great escapes. 

[SambaMaverick]

Lascelles is not PL standard imo. Would be a good signing, but the fact that he is captain of Newcastle isn't likely to have a bearing. Are we forgetting that they were relegation fodder just a couple of years ago?

[Convict Colony]

What have the club got to do first ?

Manager or players.

I know it doesn't have to be linear but feels like we need a manager first before transfers/sales etc

 

[Chez]

8 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said:

Lascelles is not PL standard imo. Would be a good signing, but the fact that he is captain of Newcastle isn't likely to have a bearing. Are we forgetting that they were relegation fodder just a couple of years ago?

he's fourth choice currently. Started two prem games. If he still has a year left on his contract, then he still has a year of Premiership wages. Unless Newcastle are going to pay some of that, he ain't coming here.

If we are looking for a reboot, is signing a fourth choice Prem CB (albeit from a a club going for CL) the way to do it? Isn't he just more of what we already have?

[Chez]

12 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

What have the club got to do first ?

Manager or players.

I know it doesn't have to be linear but feels like we need a manager first before transfers/sales etc

 

It's kind of shame we haven't got a manager in place (that we intend to go forward with) that can assess players over the next month. When Newcastle went down and got immediate promotion, Benitez took over in mid-March, so had some time to see what the squad is all about.

[Chez]

19 minutes ago, Miltonaggro said:

Should have got him in January, handy in terms of planning great escapes. 

we do need a few mavericks in the side.

[Turkish]

42 minutes ago, Dman said:

Of course it was, we had idiots claiming Adkins should be the next England manager. 

Yes, people were worried Liverpool were going to poach him, that he could be our Alex Ferguson and he was described as the next great English manager

26 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

Fairly sure when we were in league one someone piped up with the idea that our side would beat England. Sadly enough a small number of people actually agreed with it.

Yep that was true as well, people were convinced our League one side would beat England if they played each other. 

[Dman]

14 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

What have the club got to do first ?

Manager or players.

I know it doesn't have to be linear but feels like we need a manager first before transfers/sales etc

 

First, we need to define a strategy. Not just “buy young, develop, sell” but a style / way of playing. We’re all over the place at the minute. 

Ralph -> jones -> Poundland Ralph. 

We signed players schooled in a city style of play and then went to a Big Sam style manager. No consistency. 

Do we want to be a high pressing, attack minded team or a defensive, backs against the walls underdog type. Not saying either is right or wrong, but we need a 5 year plan and stick with it. 

Identify / higher a manager to our strategy, then let him have a say on players. 
 

We can split the player side into “for the future” manager input not needed “for the now” manager input needed. 

[FarehamSaintJames]

To be honest we had idiots suggesting Nigel Adkins comes back now. Despite the fact he has no affiliation with any board member, anyone staff member, and only one player in JWP.

Everyone else has moved on.

They need to treat this summer as the same, it didn’t need a relegation to do it though. That could’ve been avoided had other decisions been made correctly.

[Saint Garrett]

Lascelles is a decent shout, proper leader but probably proven to not quite be premier league level.  Depending on what happens financially this summer and who we lose, we should be able to afford him. If he wants to play, then it's a decent option for him too.

However, probably not a sellable asset, so probably wouldn't sign him. Though hopefully they're learned their lesson this year.

[FarehamSaintJames]

Exactly the above, SR need to look at players that bring leadership and experience.

Yea they may not bring you any money in at the end, but the experience they will shed on the younger players we’ll only heighten their transfer value in the long run.

[Baz Fl]

4 hours ago, Dman said:

An England international level striker..? Wouldn’t we all. 

He wasn't when Brentford were in the Championship. Strong, fast, physical and a eye for goal he had all that long before the England call up. Our current strike force misses almost all of these attributes. Broja was the closest player we had to this in recent times, type of player that could create and finish single handed.