Matthew Le God Posted February 9 Posted February 9 40 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: It's an amount they won't pay, but £20million would easily be enough to get us Morgan Whittaker who would be an upgrade. Whittaker only cost Middlesbrough £5m last month. Would he really be an upgrade? Armstrong is far more established as a prolific scorer at Championship level than Whittaker.
Saint_clark Posted February 9 Posted February 9 37 minutes ago, benjii said: He signed for Middlesbrough two weeks ago and his goal record isn't anywhere near as good as Armstrong's. Doesn't mean we can't sign him in the summer. 2 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Whittaker only cost Middlesbrough £5m last month. Would he really be an upgrade? Armstrong is far more established as a prolific scorer at Championship level than Whittaker. Yes he would be. He got 2 goals less than Armstrong last season playing for a much worse side. Armstrong scored a lot but also missed a lot.
saintstowin Posted February 9 Posted February 9 I think there's general agreement about AA's level. Not PL, yes Champ including goals, assists and misses. Next season we'll be in the division where he has success. I hope he stays. All this planning ahead for after our next promotion is a bit too much whatiffery. I think we'll need players we can rely on next season and AA is right up there. 2
SambaMaverick Posted February 9 Posted February 9 6 hours ago, Saint_clark said: It's an amount they won't pay, but £20million would easily be enough to get us Morgan Whittaker who would be an upgrade. Or keep Armstrong, sell for £10-15m if promoted next season and spend £30m on a PL-level striker. Whittaker is no Morgan Rogers. 1
Midfield_General Posted Saturday at 16:05 Posted Saturday at 16:05 Two goals in 10 games, and one was a penalty. They've been playing him up top on his own, which anyone who's seen him play knows he can't do, so that probably doesn't help.
Wade Garrett Posted Saturday at 16:07 Posted Saturday at 16:07 23 minutes ago, Danbert said: Hardly banging them in at West Brom is he Nope. I would try and move him on this Summer.
Harry_SFC Posted Saturday at 16:32 Author Posted Saturday at 16:32 49 minutes ago, Danbert said: Hardly banging them in at West Brom is he No because he's a bang average striker. Better coming off the right but still he misses way more than he should.
ApprenticeBillionaire Posted Saturday at 16:41 Posted Saturday at 16:41 He's largely being used as a lone striker there. Which is a tough ask for a player 5ft tall and not much physical stature in the Championship. 1
Whitey Grandad Posted Saturday at 20:08 Posted Saturday at 20:08 3 hours ago, Harry_SFC said: No because he's a bang average striker. Better coming off the right but still he misses way more than he should. Bang average does not describe someone who was second top scorer in the Championship last season. 5
Turkish Posted Saturday at 20:12 Posted Saturday at 20:12 3 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said: Bang average does not describe someone who was second top scorer in the Championship last season. Bro scored bare goals, Bro is a baller 1
austsaint Posted Saturday at 22:09 Posted Saturday at 22:09 5 hours ago, Harry_SFC said: No because he's a bang average striker. Better coming off the right but still he misses way more than he should. Bang average at Prem level. Very, very good in the Championship. The evidence is overwhelming. 2
SouSaint Posted Saturday at 23:25 Posted Saturday at 23:25 1 hour ago, austsaint said: Bang average at Prem level. Very, very good in the Championship. The evidence is overwhelming. He is some way off being bang average at Prem level. 2
austsaint Posted yesterday at 06:31 Posted yesterday at 06:31 7 hours ago, SouSaint said: He is some way off being bang average at Prem level. He is, sadly. Bang below average! Will that descriptor do? 1 1
OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint Posted yesterday at 07:19 Posted yesterday at 07:19 15 hours ago, Wade Garrett said: Nope. I would try and move him on this Summer. So would I. Him coming back in to the squad would represent a backward step if we're trying to build a team to get back in to the premier league and stay there. I want another striker who can show his worth in the Championship and move up with us, not someone who's going to hang around, occupy a place, then not be in the premier league team. 3
East Kent Saint Posted yesterday at 07:39 Posted yesterday at 07:39 14 hours ago, ApprenticeBillionaire said: He's largely being used as a lone striker there. Which is a tough ask for a player 5ft tall and not much physical stature in the Championship. Why do managers persist with such unproductive tactics ? It was shown at Saints that he was not a suitable candidate to play as a lone striker / target man ! 1
Midfield_General Posted yesterday at 10:04 Posted yesterday at 10:04 (edited) You would think that the fact he has the physical presence of a Subbuteo man would dissuade managers from thinking he'd be good up top on his own. But apparently not. Edited yesterday at 10:33 by Midfield_General 1 1
Harry_SFC Posted yesterday at 10:10 Author Posted yesterday at 10:10 11 hours ago, austsaint said: Bang average at Prem level. Very, very good in the Championship. The evidence is overwhelming. Certainly isn't very very good as a striker though, which was my point. As is being shown at West Brom.
beatlesaint Posted yesterday at 11:40 Posted yesterday at 11:40 1 hour ago, Harry_SFC said: Certainly isn't very very good as a striker though, which was my point. As is being shown at West Brom. Yeah, I thought he’d shine at WBA. He’s been ok but not great.
Matthew Le God Posted yesterday at 11:57 Posted yesterday at 11:57 19 hours ago, Wade Garrett said: Nope. I would try and move him on this Summer. He was 2nd top scorer in the league we will be in next season playing on the right rather than centrally. Why would you not want him for next season? It is the season after a promotion he won't be good enough for, not next season. 4
Fabrice29 Posted yesterday at 12:28 Posted yesterday at 12:28 (edited) 31 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: He was 2nd top scorer in the league we will be in next season playing on the right rather than centrally. Why would you not want him for next season? It is the season after a promotion he won't be good enough for, not next season. The idea of Championship specialists is fine in theory but say he is our top scorer again next season, it's a tough call to then cut him out of your squad again if promoted. You'll have a manager who will naturally feel loyalty to him for his performances as well. It's up to Spors to be ruthless this summer and start a new cycle and it shouldn't be 1 season focused. We should be cutting ties with quite a lot of players this summer and also they should be wanting to cut ties with us too IMO. Don't see any reason why Armstrong would want to perform again for us next season knowing he'll be cut adrift the season answer if we're promoted. Edited yesterday at 12:29 by Fabrice29 1
miserableoldgit Posted yesterday at 12:32 Posted yesterday at 12:32 31 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: He was 2nd top scorer in the league we will be in next season playing on the right rather than centrally. Why would you not want him for next season? It is the season after a promotion he won't be good enough for, not next season. Yes....I don't get it either. People will be screaming for a prolific goal scorer next season.....and we already have one...or we could get rid of him and take a chance by spending money on someone else. 3
Matthew Le God Posted yesterday at 12:41 Posted yesterday at 12:41 8 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said: The idea of Championship specialists is fine in theory but say he is our top scorer again next season, it's a tough call to then cut him out of your squad again if promoted. You'll have a manager who will naturally feel loyalty to him for his performances as well. It's up to Spors to be ruthless this summer and start a new cycle and it shouldn't be 1 season focused. We should be cutting ties with quite a lot of players this summer and also they should be wanting to cut ties with us too IMO. Don't see any reason why Armstrong would want to perform again for us next season knowing he'll be cut adrift the season answer if we're promoted. Signing a player to replace Armstrong, who will be good enough to have an impact in the Premier League is significantly harder to do as a Championship club. The less risky option is to use players like Armstrong who are stand out players in the Championship and then sell them in the summer of 2026. It is what we should have done last summer, very few of the promotion squad should have stayed. We needed pretty much a complete overhaul of the squad bar Walker-Peters and Dibling. Gelling may have taken a while, but our issue has been player quality and manager tactics. 2
aintforever Posted yesterday at 12:42 Posted yesterday at 12:42 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said: The idea of Championship specialists is fine in theory but say he is our top scorer again next season, it's a tough call to then cut him out of your squad again if promoted. You'll have a manager who will naturally feel loyalty to him for his performances as well. It's up to Spors to be ruthless this summer and start a new cycle and it shouldn't be 1 season focused. We should be cutting ties with quite a lot of players this summer and also they should be wanting to cut ties with us too IMO. Don't see any reason why Armstrong would want to perform again for us next season knowing he'll be cut adrift the season answer if we're promoted. That’s nonsense IMO, players play for money, if getting promoted means a big bonus he wouldn’t give a shite what happens next. A Premier League team is not going to sign him, whoever does would probably ditch him if they go up anyway. Edited yesterday at 12:43 by aintforever 1
Whitey Grandad Posted yesterday at 12:52 Posted yesterday at 12:52 11 minutes ago, Matthew Le God said: Signing a player to replace Armstrong, who will be good enough to have an impact in the Premier League is significantly harder to do as a Championship club. The less risky option is to use players like Armstrong who are stand out players in the Championship and then sell them in the summer of 2026. It is what we should have done last summer, very few of the promotion squad should have stayed. We needed pretty much a complete overhaul of the squad bar Walker-Peters and Dibling. Gelling may have taken a while, but our issue has been player quality and manager tactics. Gelling? When did we sign him? 1
Matthew Le God Posted yesterday at 12:53 Posted yesterday at 12:53 Just now, Whitey Grandad said: Gelling? When did we sign him? Didn't gel this season! 1
Fabrice29 Posted yesterday at 14:09 Posted yesterday at 14:09 1 hour ago, Matthew Le God said: Signing a player to replace Armstrong, who will be good enough to have an impact in the Premier League is significantly harder to do as a Championship club. The less risky option is to use players like Armstrong who are stand out players in the Championship and then sell them in the summer of 2026. It is what we should have done last summer, very few of the promotion squad should have stayed. We needed pretty much a complete overhaul of the squad bar Walker-Peters and Dibling. Gelling may have taken a while, but our issue has been player quality and manager tactics. I'm not saying sign a player who will be good enough to have an impact in the PL to replace Armstrong now, I'm saying that to motivate players into a promotion season you'll need to convince them they are part of the journey. Not sure we can do that a 2nd time round with some of our squad, including Armstrong and I'd be surprised if they wanted to be part of next season if they know how it ends. 1 hour ago, aintforever said: That’s nonsense IMO, players play for money, if getting promoted means a big bonus he wouldn’t give a shite what happens next. A Premier League team is not going to sign him, whoever does would probably ditch him if they go up anyway. If players play for money then I really hope this isn't you expecting anything different in a different thread... 13 minutes ago, aintforever said: The players don’t give a fuck, they fully deserve the label of shittest ever Prem team.
Wade Garrett Posted yesterday at 14:33 Posted yesterday at 14:33 2 hours ago, Matthew Le God said: He was 2nd top scorer in the league we will be in next season playing on the right rather than centrally. Why would you not want him for next season? It is the season after a promotion he won't be good enough for, not next season. Because I don’t rate him and think he’s become a worse player. 1
Matthew Le God Posted yesterday at 14:36 Posted yesterday at 14:36 1 minute ago, Wade Garrett said: Because I don’t rate him and think he’s become a worse player. He hasn't got worse... this season for us he was playing vs significantly better players than last season and for WBA he is playing in a role he isn't suited for. 1
SfcPhil Posted 19 hours ago Posted 19 hours ago We'd be mad to sell him in the summer. Just because he doesn't cut it at Premier League level has no baring on his Championship creditials. Funny thing is if he was playing for a Championship side this season and had scored 24 goals and made 13 assists, most people would be saying buy him! We have to keep him. Could even make a case for Brereton-Diaz as well. 5
OldNick Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 12 hours ago, SfcPhil said: We'd be mad to sell him in the summer. Just because he doesn't cut it at Premier League level has no baring on his Championship creditials. Funny thing is if he was playing for a Championship side this season and had scored 24 goals and made 13 assists, most people would be saying buy him! We have to keep him. Could even make a case for Brereton-Diaz as well. how many games and goals has he scored since joining WBA , i dont know btw
tdmickey3 Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 2 hours ago, OldNick said: how many games and goals has he scored since joining WBA , i dont know btw 2
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