Harry_SFC Posted 1 March, 2023 Share Posted 1 March, 2023 I wonder how much it would cost to terminate his contract? If my mind serves me correctly he has played against Sheffield Wednesday, Lincoln, Grimsby, Coventry and probably more lower league sides over the last two seasons. He has arguably been our worst player in every game. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benali-shorts Posted 1 March, 2023 Share Posted 1 March, 2023 He’d be in my All Time Shit Saints XI 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 1 March, 2023 Share Posted 1 March, 2023 Agrees he offers nothing absolute strealing a living here. Shite 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 March, 2023 Share Posted 1 March, 2023 Another player who has stunk this place out for a couple of years now. He is at the point of no return now, he will never make it here and he needs to go for everyone's sake. I never want to see him again. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 1 March, 2023 Share Posted 1 March, 2023 (edited) Somehow he has regressed as a player since he joined us. He does work hard but has no pace, no skill, no finishing ability. Did he just mentally give up trying once he hit the "big time" Edited 1 March, 2023 by BotleySaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 1 March, 2023 Share Posted 1 March, 2023 1 minute ago, BotleySaint said: Somehow he has regressed as a player since he joined us. He does work hard but has no pace, no skill, no finishing ability. Did he just mentally give up trying once he hit the "big time" We actually managed to sign a worse version of Shane Long, didn't think that was possible but you can trust us to do it. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SotonianWill Posted 1 March, 2023 Share Posted 1 March, 2023 17 minutes ago, benali-shorts said: He’d be in my All Time Shit Saints XI id be interested in seeing everyone’s team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 1 March, 2023 Share Posted 1 March, 2023 In fairness, he's done OK when out on the left wing. Him and Mara up front together was a disaster. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TotalSaintsPod Posted 2 March, 2023 Share Posted 2 March, 2023 Incredibly disappointing display from him last night (obviously not the only one!). Think the only time he finally broke into a jog was when he was being subbed off… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Nimbus Posted 2 March, 2023 Share Posted 2 March, 2023 He (like most of them) is completely paralysed by fear. Scared to try, scared of getting it wrong so goes simple. I reckon you can trace it back to the miss against Man United in our second game last season I think. 1 on 1 and missed it. It's been like that since then. Newcastle 2nd leg chance as an example. No composure, no belief. Needs a move away. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micky Posted 2 March, 2023 Share Posted 2 March, 2023 I didn't understand it when we signed him, I don't understand it now. I have no idea what the people running this club are looking at, not a clue. Apparently they have scouts who find the players, analysts that assess the players, a professional recruitment process. And we end up with Adam Armstrong who most fans can see very early on is never, ever going to be fit for purpose. And it's not just him, so many of the players that we have bought over the last two years are just woeful. So, how does everybody think Orsic looks so far, Premier League quality? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 2 March, 2023 Share Posted 2 March, 2023 I dont wish to knock him but Im more concerned if the people who thought he was PL standard and went for him are still selecting targets!!!! I just looked at our squad and so they are lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Junior Mullet Posted 2 March, 2023 Share Posted 2 March, 2023 15 minutes ago, Micky said: I didn't understand it when we signed him, I don't understand it now. I have no idea what the people running this club are looking at, not a clue. Apparently they have scouts who find the players, analysts that assess the players, a professional recruitment process. And we end up with Adam Armstrong who most fans can see very early on is never, ever going to be fit for purpose. And it's not just him, so many of the players that we have bought over the last two years are just woeful. So, how does everybody think Orsic looks so far, Premier League quality? I have to agree. Recruitment has been absolutely diabolical. We have turned into one of those clubs who seems to buy random players without any consideration of how they will suit a system. For years we had a system and bought players to fit the system - it worked well and occasionally we were surprised by how well this worked (ie. not many people thought Bertrand would do as well for us as he did, but he was exactly what we needed). We scoffed at other clubs who collected players like they were opening panini packs. Specifically on Armstrong - it annoys me how weak his legs are. I want a striker who's strong enough to rifle shots in, not dribble them into the keepers arms each time. It's like watching a kid play. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 2 March, 2023 Share Posted 2 March, 2023 One of our worst ever signings. Even more pathetic that he was signed as the replacement for Danny Ings. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 2 March, 2023 Share Posted 2 March, 2023 An absolute disaster of a signing, it won’t be his level next year as and when we go down, he looks miles away from even championship standard. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 2 March, 2023 Share Posted 2 March, 2023 1 minute ago, Appy said: An absolute disaster of a signing, it won’t be his level next year as and when we go down, he looks miles away from even championship standard. You could say that about most of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 2 March, 2023 Share Posted 2 March, 2023 12 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said: You could say that about most of them. Well yes, but this is a thread about Adam Armstrong. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 2 March, 2023 Share Posted 2 March, 2023 He’ll be great in the Championship next season 🤣 I don’t know how he stayed on so long last night, perhaps Selles forgot he was even out there. Useless. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Curse of St Mary's Posted 2 March, 2023 Share Posted 2 March, 2023 2 hours ago, Mr Nimbus said: He (like most of them) is completely paralysed by fear. Scared to try, scared of getting it wrong so goes simple. I reckon you can trace it back to the miss against Man United in our second game last season I think. 1 on 1 and missed it. It's been like that since then. Newcastle 2nd leg chance as an example. No composure, no belief. Needs a move away. That through ball during the first half that went through to the keeper. I was thinking he could get to the ball before the keeper but he literally bottled it. Stealing a living this guy. Shocking footballer. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 2 March, 2023 Share Posted 2 March, 2023 1 hour ago, Appy said: Well yes, but this is a thread about Adam Armstrong. Not enough threads. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yozzman Posted 2 March, 2023 Share Posted 2 March, 2023 2 hours ago, Micky said: I didn't understand it when we signed him, I don't understand it now. I have no idea what the people running this club are looking at, not a clue. Apparently they have scouts who find the players, analysts that assess the players, a professional recruitment process. And we end up with Adam Armstrong who most fans can see very early on is never, ever going to be fit for purpose. And it's not just him, so many of the players that we have bought over the last two years are just woeful. So, how does everybody think Orsic looks so far, Premier League quality? He did score 28 goals in 20/21 which was more than Ivan Toney if you discount penalties. That was in a team that finished in 15th place, so I can see why he was signed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 2 March, 2023 Share Posted 2 March, 2023 16 hours ago, SotonianWill said: id be interested in seeing everyone’s team If you're asking..... Forecast Jermaine Wright - Davenport - Hoedt - Bernard McCann - Diallo - Holmes Juanmi Armstrong - Carrillo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 2 March, 2023 Share Posted 2 March, 2023 3 hours ago, Mr Nimbus said: He (like most of them) is completely paralysed by fear. Scared to try, scared of getting it wrong so goes simple. I reckon you can trace it back to the miss against Man United in our second game last season I think. 1 on 1 and missed it. It's been like that since then. Newcastle 2nd leg chance as an example. No composure, no belief. Needs a move away. I also remember that United chance and have wondered what his season would’ve looked like had he scored that winner. Prior to that he’d scored on his debut and looked lively in both those games. If you’d have asked me 5/6 games into his time with us i’d have said he looked like a decent signing. You don’t go from scoring 30 odd goals in the Championship, to looking completely out of place against a mid table League 2 side without some degree of it being mental surely. When Che plays against lower teams in the cup he looks a class above and normally bags against them - Armstrong has not had an impact against any of them from what I can recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 2 March, 2023 Share Posted 2 March, 2023 19 minutes ago, bpsaint said: If you're asking..... Forecast Jermaine Wright - Davenport - Hoedt - Bernard McCann - Diallo - Holmes Juanmi Armstrong - Carrillo they'd beat us lol 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 2 March, 2023 Share Posted 2 March, 2023 11 minutes ago, saintwbu said: I also remember that United chance and have wondered what his season would’ve looked like had he scored that winner. Prior to that he’d scored on his debut and looked lively in both those games. If you’d have asked me 5/6 games into his time with us i’d have said he looked like a decent signing. You don’t go from scoring 30 odd goals in the Championship, to looking completely out of place against a mid table League 2 side without some degree of it being mental surely. When Che plays against lower teams in the cup he looks a class above and normally bags against them - Armstrong has not had an impact against any of them from what I can recall. Like other he's been left out of the starting eleven for quite a few games so when he does get on the pitch there must be some tension there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SambaMaverick Posted 2 March, 2023 Share Posted 2 March, 2023 Really hope we don't have to watch him in the Championship next season 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 2 March, 2023 Author Share Posted 2 March, 2023 1 hour ago, SambaMaverick said: Really hope we don't have to watch him in the Championship next season I just can't see how he scored so many goals for Blackburn. I'd my much rather we persisted with Mara next season in the championship, at least he shows flashes of potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 2 March, 2023 Share Posted 2 March, 2023 Just now, Harry_SFC said: I'd my much rather we persisted with Mara next season in the championship, at least he shows flashes of potential. Seriously? He's just as shit as Armstrong. One goal all season. They both aren't good enough. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 2 March, 2023 Share Posted 2 March, 2023 4 hours ago, bpsaint said: If you're asking..... Forecast Jermaine Wright - Davenport - Hoedt - Bernard McCann - Diallo - Holmes Juanmi Armstrong - Carrillo Tremendously shit side, although you appear to have left Pulis out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted 2 March, 2023 Share Posted 2 March, 2023 21 hours ago, SotonianWill said: id be interested in seeing everyone’s team White, Pekhart, Robertson, Patterson, Perricard and Bignall were all dreadful but at a lower level so they’d get the nod for me. Fuller, DMG, BWP and Madsen were nothing to write home about either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 2 March, 2023 Share Posted 2 March, 2023 6 minutes ago, Chez said: Tremendously shit side, although you appear to have left Pulis out. Pulis didn’t make an appearance did he? So I think that would keep him out of my team, no bad memories from him, unlike so many others. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyRWatson Posted 2 March, 2023 Share Posted 2 March, 2023 I am still amazed at our performances after seeing them talk about the hard work put in during the Austria pre season training https://youtu.be/xR_NmgZ1c_M&t=4m32s 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 2 March, 2023 Share Posted 2 March, 2023 3 hours ago, Harry_SFC said: I just can't see how he scored so many goals for Blackburn. I'd my much rather we persisted with Mara next season in the championship, at least he shows flashes of potential. He’s shite as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 2 March, 2023 Share Posted 2 March, 2023 He’s absolutely hopeless. I look forward to him leaving this summer, we can hope… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pengi Posted 2 March, 2023 Share Posted 2 March, 2023 1 hour ago, Chez said: Tremendously shit side, although you appear to have left Pulis out. Ali Dia? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 2 March, 2023 Author Share Posted 2 March, 2023 1 hour ago, Wade Garrett said: He’s shite as well. Willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for now (young player in a new country etc) but he does need to do more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 2 March, 2023 Share Posted 2 March, 2023 On 01/03/2023 at 21:32, BotleySaint said: Somehow he has regressed as a player since he joined us. He does work hard but has no pace, no skill, no finishing ability. Did he just mentally give up trying once he hit the "big time" One of many. He actually looked a decent player on his debut at Everton and scored. Has got worse over time, not just him though, have to ask why so many players join us and turn to shit after a few weeks of learning the Southampton way… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 4 March, 2023 Share Posted 4 March, 2023 I just look at him and fail to understand how he keeps getting minutes. No matter how bad he plays he back on the pitch the next game. Guess there must be some feeling that technically he's a striker so if we put him on the wing he may inadvertadently score. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Billy Posted 4 March, 2023 Share Posted 4 March, 2023 2 minutes ago, Baird of the land said: I just look at him and fail to understand how he keeps getting minutes. No matter how bad he plays he back on the pitch the next game. Guess there must be some feeling that technically he's a striker so if we put him on the wing he may inadvertadently score. Agreed, just one of the many on our books that are stealing a living. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 4 March, 2023 Share Posted 4 March, 2023 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 4 March, 2023 Share Posted 4 March, 2023 (edited) I would love to know what he does in training that impresses the coaching staff cos he is awful. Edited 4 March, 2023 by beatlesaint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
East Kent Saint Posted 5 March, 2023 Share Posted 5 March, 2023 The only clips I saw of him when he signed were of him having first time shots to score , he seems to have problem with his coordination these days never striking the ball cleanly. It could be in his head or just the lack of coordination , his goals were described as scuffed shots on here when he signed so perhaps the latter ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CWD Posted 5 March, 2023 Share Posted 5 March, 2023 Has to be the most useless PL striker we’ve ever had. At least Carrillo won a couple of headers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 5 March, 2023 Share Posted 5 March, 2023 Horrendous again yesterday, he’s actually getting worse which takes some doing. I was told by someone close to Jones that he didn’t rate him, but was prepared to work to improve him. This suggests to me that he’s got the right attitude & is professional (you would just bin someone incapable of developing), that has to be the only explanation for his inclusion because it can’t be performance related. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 5 March, 2023 Share Posted 5 March, 2023 Was terrible yesterday. Even my missus who knows absolutely f-all about football pointed Him out and said ‘what’s wrong with that player why does he keep doing that shit thing ‘ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 5 March, 2023 Share Posted 5 March, 2023 The biggest criticism of him is that it legitimately may have been better for us to keep Long around for the role that he plays for us now. Absolute garbage. His second touch is always a tackle. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 5 March, 2023 Share Posted 5 March, 2023 I don't understand how a guy that scored 29 goals in 43 games before he came us can look to be so incapable of scoring goals for so long. Lots of strikers have a drop in form and confidence, but its pushing on two seasons now. I guess he hasn't played every game over that period, but he's had plenty of games and quite a few opportunities to make things happen or take a scoring chance that comes his way. He looks total devoid of confidence and is pretty much a waste of a shirt. It's such a disappointment. He was brought in as an Ings mark II, but the only similarity is his lack of height. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ally_uk Posted 5 March, 2023 Share Posted 5 March, 2023 I was optimistic when we signed him after all had a good record at Blackburn. Is this guy a striker or Winger ? Because he is abysmal at both...... Cant shoot, can't dribble What's the point of him being in the team.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 5 March, 2023 Share Posted 5 March, 2023 Came on in 63rd minute yesterday. Should have come off in the 73rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint Posted 5 March, 2023 Share Posted 5 March, 2023 I got the impression after Grimsby, RS said there would be players not wearing a Saints shirt again. Well, what was this clown doing wearing one yesterday? Really does add nothing, and even when going wide, he craps himself when someone comes within two yards of him. Total waste of a player and even more irritating is his strolling around doing half hearted presses. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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