Saints 1-0 Leicester - Match Thread

[saintwbu]

6 minutes ago, saintant said:

Don't agree with the booing but can understand fans being nervous when we start trying to take short goal kicks. We know we aren't good enough at it and Leicester's players knew too - it was a recipe for disaster. Until the team are drilled sufficiently in training to play out from short goal kicks and look comfortable doing it then it's probably safer to hoof it. 

So the alternative being lump it long to their massive CB’s to head it down to their midfield to continue dominating us? Whilst also creating a tense, nervous atmosphere in the stadium. Leeds, Everton etc have managed to galvanise at home when it really matters (tail end of last season for Everton) and get the stadium absolutely rocking - why can’t we do the same. 

[saintant]

Just now, saintwbu said:

So the alternative being lump it long to their massive CB’s to head it down to their midfield to continue dominating us? Whilst also creating a tense, nervous atmosphere in the stadium. Leeds, Everton etc have managed to galvanise at home when it really matters (tail end of last season for Everton) and get the stadium absolutely rocking - why can’t we do the same. 

Better to lose the ball further up the pitch than close to our goal surely?

[Toadhall Saint]

20 minutes ago, saintwbu said:

People who say things like ‘the fans have every right to boo’ are clearly idiots who boo. The crowd noise when Bazunu was playing those short goal kicks was pathetic, clearly that was an instruction from the manager - he’d said in his pre-match conference about us not drawing Leeds onto us enough, and clearly this was a ploy to get Leicester to press us high and leave gaps. Then to boo Elyounoussi was just a disgrace - anyone booing a player who gives his all for the club, should just not bother going to the game. Whether you think a player is good enough or not is another matter, but the reality is we’re not a good team, haven’t been all season, but the least you can do is support the team when they’re trying (which in my opinion they have been all season).

Personally I’ve never booed a saints player and never will. That being said and given the uttter shite that has been served up in the past 3 years I can understand when some fan’s choose to vent their frustration in that way.

[saintwbu]

Just now, saintant said:

Better to lose the ball further up the pitch than close to our goal surely?

Of course - but I don’t remember us losing the ball from the short goal kicks, but I do remember Souttar happily nodding back aimless lumps forward. 

[southbourne saint]

Why was McCarthy not on the bench for that matter why didn't he start yesterday. He did nothing wrong in the Grimsby debacle.

[Green]

Just now, southbourne saint said:

Why was McCarthy not on the bench for that matter why didn't he start yesterday. He did nothing wrong in the Grimsby debacle.

Picked up an injury - I read somewhere (possibly shoulder)

[SaintRichmond]

Very Very Lucky 3 points. Why ??.......... Our wonderful Goalkeeper  (ex SKATE) imho, tried very hard to gift Leicester an equaliser ....... twice in the last few minutes

Whilst our BEST Goalkeeper is currently playing for Spurs

Do the owners REALLY want us to stay up ??

[suewhistle]

21 minutes ago, saintant said:

Don't agree with the booing but can understand fans being nervous when we start trying to take short goal kicks. We know we aren't good enough at it and Leicester's players knew too - it was a recipe for disaster. Until the team are drilled sufficiently in training to play out from short goal kicks and look comfortable doing it then it's probably safer to hoof it. 

I'd never boo anybody but I was muttering a bit to myself yesterday about this and Elyounoussi. As I observed to my neighbour I understood the intention to extend the opposition and make space but all we seemed to achieve was giving opportunites to Leicester and then booting long anyway. I think Lavia got a ground pass on one occasion but the situations didn't do anything for my nerves.

As for Mo, I'm sure he tries hard but so much breaks down with him, he doesn't seem to ever move in anticipation and to those who say he doesn't sprint, I think he does but that's his top speed..

[Saint_clark]

23 minutes ago, suewhistle said:

I'd never boo anybody but I was muttering a bit to myself yesterday about this and Elyounoussi. As I observed to my neighbour I understood the intention to extend the opposition and make space but all we seemed to achieve was giving opportunites to Leicester and then booting long anyway. I think Lavia got a ground pass on one occasion but the situations didn't do anything for my nerves.

As for Mo, I'm sure he tries hard but so much breaks down with him, he doesn't seem to ever move in anticipation and to those who say he doesn't sprint, I think he does but that's his top speed..

Our players aren't mobile enough for the short passing we try to play. They just position themselves and then stand there being marked out of the game. We need to be moving about, trying to get into space, even fullbacks and midfielders from short goal kicks.

[Whitey Grandad]

38 minutes ago, SaintRichmond said:

Very Very Lucky 3 points. Why ??.......... Our wonderful Goalkeeper  (ex SKATE) imho, tried very hard to gift Leicester an equaliser ....... twice in the last few minutes

Whilst our BEST Goalkeeper is currently playing for Spurs

Do the owners REALLY want us to stay up ??

He hasn’t been ours for a long time now.

[davefizzy14]

All that matters is that we got the three points yesterday. Two wins in our last three, hoping this builds momentum now. Carlos Alcaraz is absolutely quality, class finish from him I thought KWP, AMN, Lavia, Prowsey, Bednarek, ABK, Theo and Che all played well too. We needed some luck yesterday as we were well overdue some in my opinion. COYR

Edited 5 March, 2023 by davefizzy14

[Psycrow]

1 hour ago, SaintRichmond said:

Very Very Lucky 3 points. Why ??.......... Our wonderful Goalkeeper  (ex SKATE) imho, tried very hard to gift Leicester an equaliser ....... twice in the last few minutes

Whilst our BEST Goalkeeper is currently playing for Spurs

Do the owners REALLY want us to stay up ??

Let me guess. Covid wasn't real either. And Big foot exists?

[warsash saint]

1 hour ago, SaintRichmond said:

Very Very Lucky 3 points. Why ??.......... Our wonderful Goalkeeper  (ex SKATE) imho, tried very hard to gift Leicester an equaliser ....... twice in the last few minutes

Whilst our BEST Goalkeeper is currently playing for Spurs

Do the owners REALLY want us to stay up ??

Jezz - where do you start with this post??

[Chez]

Strangely, despite getting the win, I came away feeling less confident of survival. We were terrible in the second half. Leicester are a really poor side at the moment, yet they dominated and ran us ragged. It was such a hard watch. 

I was disappointed with Sulemana again. He showed his great pace on one occasion, but his control was poor and he looked a little short of confidence, choosing an easy pass rather than trying to take on his man.

I hope Alcarez is not out too long, but it didn't look good. Hobbling After the game.

[Chez]

56 minutes ago, davefizzy14 said:

All that matters is that we got the three points yesterday. Two wins in our last three, hoping this builds momentum now. Carlos Alcaraz is absolutely quality, class finish from him I thought KWP, AMN, Lavia, Prowsey, Bednarek, ABK, Theo and Che all played well too. We needed some luck yesterday as we were well overdue some in my opinion. COYR

All these players "playing well"...yet Leicester dominated and carved us open. 

[Lord Duckhunter]

We were pretty lucky that Iheanacho did his best Che Adams impression and our keeper wasn’t punished for 2 horrendous errors. That said, we’ve suffered similarly recently, so it’s about time we were on the receiving end of oppositions poor play. 
 

Never looked the same after the goal scorer went off, and the substitutes really struggled to impose themselves. Good sign that we didn’t fold after the penalty miss and still kept pushing forward. The two full backs were better, and the centre halves did ok. Walcott gave us a bit more balance imo, and Adams did ok. Sulemana turned in another frustrating performance, just when you think he’s going to really set the place alight he disappears after a promising start. We really need to get him into promising positions in the final third and for him to produce some end product if we’re going to stay up. I thought Lavia was slightly below his par, and the keeper was obviously pony again.

All in all, a great result, but we’ll play better and lose. It’s just a shame we didn’t turn up at Leeds as we’d be building some momentum now. 

 

 

[Shroppie]

Feels a bit strange having missed the whole game and just going on others’ reactions. A few thoughts.

I think Bazunu has generally been good but some now seem.very critical. I still think he’s the best option.

For all Bednarek’s errors, the more he plays, the less he’s a liability. Probably have Salisu back when he’s fit or DCC when he’s been calmed down a bit. Forget Lyanco and Bree. But we now have options that aren’t too bad. Same at FB. I prefer KWP and Perrauld as KWP is on his natural side, but I don’t deny AMN has done well. So an option there too. Overall it’s nearly a settled defence that has only conceded one in three games.

The midfield of Alcaraz, JWP and Lavia can be good. With the three, one can always get forward.

It’s up front where we still have too many options, mainly poor. Walcott was surprisingly good yesterday: perhaps he can thrive in an elder statesman, responsible role. Sulamana (sp?) is exciting as is Edozie, but neither is mature enough to give a complete display. Orsic and Aribo look out of it now. SA has lost something. Is he fit? AA works hard defensively but isn’t skilled in creativity or finishing. Moi is similar but a little more composed. I like Che: he assisted the goal. Mara isn’t ready and I really can’t decide about Tall Paul. With no look in yesterday, is he doomed to be the next failure, or will there be games where he’ll come into his own? So I’m not sure we can do better than the starting front three yesterday but maybe there’s a winning formula somewhere.

[Shroppie]

Also one last reflection. We’ve won 2/3 of our league games since Ruben took over. If he’d been appointed earlier instead Jones and had that success rate, we’d now have 13 more points. Mid table and virtually safe.

We also might have spent a lot less, or more wisely, during January. We’re stuck with at least two Jones players

I don’t blame Jones for that. I blame the idiots who appointed him.

[John Boy Saint]

2 hours ago, Chris cooper said:

He was lucky I thought … wot saved him was a combination of his foot was low no studs up when he caught him and he apologised straight away to the ref and Leicester player… for me it was a red card. 
Why VAR didn’t get the ref to go to monitor was unbelievable. Lucky for us we kept 11 men. 
hopefully alcaraz is fit for manure next Sunday cos he was instrumental 1st half for us.

Amazingly from up in the Chapel in real-time at that distance,  both me and the equally level headed chap alongside me both thought it was a harsh decision in a 50/50ish challenge. Seeing Leicester Gary on MOTD suggesting Charly was lucky not to see Red, I think the ref actually applied common sense realising that it was coming together at speed, with his closer view saw that there was not malicious intent to injure the Leicester player and had Charly got there a millisecond earlier the offense might have been the other way round.

As for the booing of the Mickey Mouse goal kicks, we were increasingly asking for trouble and they were achieving F’all - then at the same time you see Sulemana free with acres of Hampshire to run into up the pitch - ping it to him instead of waiting for Maddison to work out our messing about.

[Lord Duckhunter]

13 minutes ago, Shroppie said:

Also one last reflection. We’ve won 2/3 of our league games since Ruben took over. If he’d been appointed earlier instead Jones and had that success rate, we’d now have 13 more points. Mid table and virtually safe.

What a ridiculous take on it.

Had we appointed him in the summer instead of sticking with Ralph , with his success rate of 2 in 3, we’d now be fighting 6th place out with Liverpool. See how ridiculous your reflection is. 
 

You can’t take 3 games as a sample size. 

Edited 5 March, 2023 by Lord Duckhunter

[Shroppie]

3 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

What a ridiculous take on it.

Had we appointed him in the summer instead of sticking with Ralph , with his success rate of 2 in 3, we’d now be fighting 6th place out with Liverpool. See how ridiculous your reflection is. 
 

You can’t take 3 games as a sample size. 

Not ridiculous at all. With the spirit we showed yesterday ate you saying we wouldn't have won more games in January? Of course you can't extrapolate precisely but the point is we'd be a damn sight better off. As for the games before the WC, Sells would have had the same injuries as Ralph had to deal with, so who knows.

 

Sorry I won't be replying. I rarely come in here any more and only get three posts. Really just came to see if it's any more rational than it used to be, but in general would not appear to be so.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

46 minutes ago, Chez said:

Strangely, despite getting the win, I came away feeling less confident of survival. We were terrible in the second half. Leicester are a really poor side at the moment, yet they dominated and ran us ragged. It was such a hard watch. 

I was disappointed with Sulemana again. He showed his great pace on one occasion, but his control was poor and he looked a little short of confidence, choosing an easy pass rather than trying to take on his man.

I hope Alcarez is not out too long, but it didn't look good. Hobbling After the game.

I understand what you are saying, but to be honest, if we can get another five or six of those wins this season, I'll take it. 

[Saint Fan CaM]

It’s a win. No need to over analyse too much, but suffice to say Che made a difference to our attack even in his role as providing an exquisite through ball to Alcarez who finished as well as a seasoned striker. That was the main difference. JWP’s penalty was negligent…an easy chance spurned and the 2nd from a supposed specialist in a season where goals have been few and far between.

As for booing fans I cannot for one instant condone that during the match - it is the height of stupidity in my opinion. Do it if you must after the match has finished, otherwise be a supporter…goodness knows this team needs all the help it can get!

The only concern I have now is how Selles sets us up for the United game. 442 might be too ambitious so I think 4321 might be a good plan. 3 of JWP, Diallo and Lavia. 2 of Sully and Alcarez. Che up top.

Edited 6 March, 2023 by Saint Fan CaM

[Lee On Solent Saint]

10 minutes ago, John Boy Saint said:

Amazingly from up in the Chapel in real-time at that distance,  both me and the equally level headed chap alongside me both thought it was a harsh decision in a 50/50ish challenge. Seeing Leicester Gary on MOTD suggesting Charly was lucky not to see Red, I think the ref actually applied common sense realising that it was coming together at speed, with his closer view saw that there was not malicious intent to injure the Leicester player and had Charly got there a millisecond earlier the offense might have been the other way round.

As for the booing of the Mickey Mouse goal kicks, we were increasingly asking for trouble and they were achieving F’all - then at the same time you see Sulemana free with acres of Hampshire to run into up the pitch - ping it to him instead of waiting for Maddison to work out our messing about.

They kind of glossed over the challenge by Barnes on JWP just after that challenge. Slow motion looked just as bad as Alcarez one. 

[Lord Duckhunter]

1 minute ago, Shroppie said:

 

 

Sorry I won't be replying. I rarely come in here any more and only get three posts. Really just came to see if it's any more rational than it used to be, but in general would not appear to be so.

What isn’t rational is taking 3 results (whilst continently ignoring defeat to a Div 4 team) and using that as evidence we’d comfortable be safe had Selles been manager earlier. It’s way way too small a sample and way way too early to make that call. 

[BERMUDASAINT]

16 hours ago, OttawaSaint said:

Ohhh God. Phewwwww! Flappy Baz!

 

16 hours ago, James said:

Bazunu doing his best to lose us that game. We won’t stay up with a keeper making those kinds of mistakes. Lucky boy.

Still, big win. 

 

16 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Fucking Bazunu 

 

16 hours ago, HKsaint said:

Bazunu must be dropped

Typical Saints supporters, gotta trash someone. Maybe his superman attempt at the ball was enough to put off an unchallenged header, nothing else was disturbing a free header. Should he have stayed rooted on his line as the denders has an unchallenged bullet header?

BAZ is young and does make mistakes, but he is vital to the way we play, right or wrongly, we use him as a sweeper, never seen us use a keeper to pass back to to start or redistribute the ball so much, his ball skills with his feet and distrubution is very good.

 

[Lord Duckhunter]

4 minutes ago, BERMUDASAINT said:

 

his ball skills with his feet and distrubution is very good.

 

You must of missed the bit where he passed straight to one of them.

9 times out of 10 he costs us yesterday, he was extremely lucky they couldn’t finish 2 pretty easy chances he handed them. . We won despite him, he is pony and we’ll be having this conversation again after another game unless he’s dropped. 

Edited 5 March, 2023 by Lord Duckhunter

[SW11_Saint]

2 hours ago, SaintRichmond said:

Very Very Lucky 3 points. Why ??.......... Our wonderful Goalkeeper  (ex SKATE) imho, tried very hard to gift Leicester an equaliser ....... twice in the last few minutes

Whilst our BEST Goalkeeper is currently playing for Spurs

Do the owners REALLY want us to stay up ??

Take it you’ve seen the Wolves goal? 

[Chez]

24 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

I understand what you are saying, but to be honest, if we can get another five or six of those wins this season, I'll take it. 

If we play as poorly as that in the future games, we have no chance of getting five or six wins. There has to be massive improvement. Maybe that happens, but I can't see it. 

[SW11_Saint]

7 minutes ago, BERMUDASAINT said:

 

 

 

Typical Saints supporters, gotta trash someone. Maybe his superman attempt at the ball was enough to put off an unchallenged header, nothing else was disturbing a free header. Should he have stayed rooted on his line as the denders has an unchallenged bullet header?

BAZ is young and does make mistakes, but he is vital to the way we play, right or wrongly, we use him as a sweeper, never seen us use a keeper to pass back to to start or redistribute the ball so much, his ball skills with his feet and distrubution is very good.

 

Why do we always have to have anti-heroes? He’s a young player who is developing. He’s going to make rookie mistakes here and there. Personally I probably would have rested him too before now, but they must see more in him than either of the other options. Not his fault he’s being picked. If they’re wearing the shirt, support them. The booing of Elyonoussi, whatever you think of him, is disgraceful. Think of the impact on a player hearing that when about to come on due to an injury? 

[Saint Matty 76]

20 minutes ago, BERMUDASAINT said:

 

Typical Saints supporters, gotta trash someone. Maybe his superman attempt at the ball was enough to put off an unchallenged header, nothing else was disturbing a free header. Should he have stayed rooted on his line as the denders has an unchallenged bullet header?

BAZ is young and does make mistakes, but he is vital to the way we play, right or wrongly, we use him as a sweeper, never seen us use a keeper to pass back to to start or redistribute the ball so much, his ball skills with his feet and distrubution is very good.

 

I think most people would argue he shouldn't have missed the ball leaving an open goal header from 5 yards. Leicester didn't have a shot on target yesterday and Bazunu nearly gifted them two goals. It's not "gotta trash someone", it's the reality of the situation. 

His "ball skills and distribution" being very good is nonsense as well, he has the worst completion percentage in the entire league.

[Hodgey]

On Sulemana - there was one point where he was hugging the byline with acres in front of him, even Selles was gesturing frantically for a cross field ball but nobody looked up. He does need to get involved more but equally we need to look for that ball to use his pace and get the fullback worried. For whatever reason both sides favoured play on the same side - our right and their left, this was a particular issue for us when we had Adam Armstrong out there, something I don’t want to see repeated.

 

 

 

[cloggy saint]

24 minutes ago, Chez said:

If we play as poorly as that in the future games, we have no chance of getting five or six wins. There has to be massive improvement. Maybe that happens, but I can't see it. 

You probably couldn't see us winning yesterday either.

[BERMUDASAINT]

4 hours ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Saints on MOTD now,

That is 1x sitter Leicester missed as Bednarek leaves their striker free in the 6 box - headed wide

That the second sitter Leicester miss as ABK leaves their striker free in the 6 yard box - headed wide

A good chance gifted to Leicester as bazunu passes the ball to their striker on the 18 yard line

That is the 3rd sitter missed by Leicester as Bazunu is in no-mans land flapping at a cross, off the bar

We won ya prick, cheer up. All those mistakes and we still one, ain't life grand! How shite is leicester if they cant finish the gifts we gave them. 

[Convict Colony]

35 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said:

I think most people would argue he shouldn't have missed the ball leaving an open goal header from 5 yards. Leicester didn't have a shot on target yesterday and Bazunu nearly gifted them two goals. It's not "gotta trash someone", it's the reality of the situation. 

His "ball skills and distribution" being very good is nonsense as well, he has the worst completion percentage in the entire league.

good stat

[Convict Colony]

30 minutes ago, Hodgey said:

On Sulemana - there was one point where he was hugging the byline with acres in front of him, even Selles was gesturing frantically for a cross field ball but nobody looked up. He does need to get involved more but equally we need to look for that ball to use his pace and get the fullback worried. For whatever reason both sides favoured play on the same side - our right and their left, this was a particular issue for us when we had Adam Armstrong out there, something I don’t want to see repeated.

 

 

 

yeah the switch into space for him was on a lot yesterday

[Saint_clark]

40 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said:

I think most people would argue he shouldn't have missed the ball leaving an open goal header from 5 yards. Leicester didn't have a shot on target yesterday and Bazunu nearly gifted them two goals. It's not "gotta trash someone", it's the reality of the situation. 

His "ball skills and distribution" being very good is nonsense as well, he has the worst completion percentage in the entire league.

He literally has no redeeming features to his play, nothing he does that other keepers (even on our bench) could do just as well if not better. 

Said it many times, I don't care how good he is in 5+ years time, he's costing us our place in the Premier League. With a better keeper we'd be outside the relegation zone right now. 

[tunit]

It would seem theres a scapegoat even when we win now. I think you can tell from this forum who type of 'fans' are that booed Moi when he came on. Honestly embarrassing. We won, get behind the lads, support them.

And for the record, Bazunu's kick to Iheanacho was mostly not his fault, it was pinged back to him by KWP and he had a player sprinting him down so he had to first time kick a fast moving bobbling ball. JWP wasn't happy with KWP after that happened if you watch the highlights.

In the last second, Souttar has a free header from 6 yards if Bazunu doesn't come flying out to put him off. 

No he isn't Gordon Banks but we have a very raw keeper who will only improve with game time.

[AlexLaw76]

24 minutes ago, tunit said:

It would seem theres a scapegoat even when we win now. I think you can tell from this forum who type of 'fans' are that booed Moi when he came on. Honestly embarrassing. We won, get behind the lads, support them.

And for the record, Bazunu's kick to Iheanacho was mostly not his fault, it was pinged back to him by KWP and he had a player sprinting him down so he had to first time kick a fast moving bobbling ball. JWP wasn't happy with KWP after that happened if you watch the highlights.

In the last second, Souttar has a free header from 6 yards if Bazunu doesn't come flying out to put him off. 

No he isn't Gordon Banks but we have a very raw keeper who will only improve with game time.

lol

[Chez]

1 hour ago, cloggy saint said:

You probably couldn't see us winning yesterday either.

I read the Leicester City forum before the game and their fans were absolutely slating them, so I thought we had half a chance. I was surprised at how much they dominated actually and the number of golden chances they would create. The fact they missed them and gave us a couple of great opportunities typified what their fans were saying.  

But how many `average' quality teams playing poorly will we face between now and the end of the season? 

I guess Forrest, Bournemouth, West Ham and Palace are the big ones. None will be easy. But can we beat someone like Spurs at home?

[Channons Windmill]

Is the booing a Saints thing, or wider?  I remember Alan Ball used to get booed a lot and Lawrie used to get very cross about the 'boo-boys'..  hasn't ever really made much sense to me

[Eric The Red]

1 hour ago, Saint Matty 76 said:

I think most people would argue he shouldn't have missed the ball leaving an open goal header from 5 yards. Leicester didn't have a shot on target yesterday and Bazunu nearly gifted them two goals. It's not "gotta trash someone", it's the reality of the situation. 

His "ball skills and distribution" being very good is nonsense as well, he has the worst completion percentage in the entire league.

Interesting stats Matty but it doesn't really show what you claim. According to that chart Bazunu's long ball distribution is actually marginally better than average. To be overall bottom either his short ball distribution is remarkably atrocious or , more likely he plays a lot less short passes, which with our flaky back line would be a very sensible thing!

[redkeith]

5 minutes ago, Channons Windmill said:

Is the booing a Saints thing, or wider?  I remember Alan Ball used to get booed a lot and Lawrie used to get very cross about the 'boo-boys'..  hasn't ever really made much sense to me

Not sure if it just a Saints thing. I watched an Arsenal game on French TV once, which didn't have a swear filter on the crowd Mike and you could hear this guy calling Ramsey an Fing C all game , up until he scored.

We moved our Season tickets to the East stand because of the ridiculous abuse the West Stand were giving Paul Rideout.  Bally used to get a lot of stick too. Would love the pair of them in thee team now!

[Saint_clark]

7 minutes ago, Eric The Red said:

Interesting stats Matty but it doesn't really show what you claim. According to that chart Bazunu's long ball distribution is actually marginally better than average. To be overall bottom either his short ball distribution is remarkably atrocious or , more likely he plays a lot less short passes, which with our flaky back line would be a very sensible thing!

It's a percentage so it doesn't matter how many short passes he's played, he's still the worst in the league at it. 

And long ball pass completion is as much to do with the person receiving it as the keeper punting it up field.

[Chez]

26 minutes ago, Channons Windmill said:

Is the booing a Saints thing, or wider?  I remember Alan Ball used to get booed a lot and Lawrie used to get very cross about the 'boo-boys'..  hasn't ever really made much sense to me

I can't get my head around it. When a player comes on, no matter how shit he has been before, he has the opportunity to play well and help us win. Why in earth would you not get behind him? Every dog has his day. Some fans are just thick. Even if you disagree with the substitution, you don't boo, you support, encourage or at the very least shut the fuck up and see what happens. 

 

Edited 5 March, 2023 by Chez

[Eric The Red]

18 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

It's a percentage so it doesn't matter how many short passes he's played, he's still the worst in the league at it. 

And long ball pass completion is as much to do with the person receiving it as the keeper punting it up field.

Sorry but the numbers do matter. The X axis is percentage of TOTAL passes, The short pass completion rate isn't shown separately but is obviously much higher (at least twice as high as the long pass ones) so how many short passes you make is absolutely critical to your overall pass completion stat.

[Saint_clark]

3 minutes ago, Eric The Red said:

Sorry but the numbers do matter. The X axis is percentage of TOTAL passes, The short pass completion rate isn't shown separately but is obviously much higher (at least twice as high as the long pass ones) so how many short passes you make is absolutely critical to your overall pass completion stat.

You're reading it completely wrong. The number on the X axis is the percentage of long passes completed, not the total amount. 

It doesn't matter how many passes have been played in total - if, like Bazunu, you've completed 60% of short passes, then 4 out of every 10 short passes are going to the opposition. 

[cloggy saint]

35 minutes ago, Chez said:

I can't get my head around it. When a player comes on, no matter how shit he has been before, he has the opportunity to play well and help us win. Why in earth would you not get behind him? Every dog has his day. Some fans are just thick. Even if you disagree with the substitution, you don't boo, you support, encourage or at the very least shut the fuck up and see what happens. 

 

The knuckle-dragging twats will argue that they've paid their money to watch so they have an absolute right to boo who and when they want  

[SaintsBarry74]

Reading Leicester forums, it seems like Leicester fans has completely capitulated - is that what it does to a club when they lose to us?  🤭

[Weston Super Saint]

20 minutes ago, Saint_clark said:

You're reading it completely wrong. The number on the X axis is the percentage of long passes completed, not the total amount. 

Er, nope. The label states the X axis is "total pass completion %".  

As ever with stats though they can be interpreted in many ways.  As mentioned, the completion relies on the receiver of the ball being competent. Baz could drop a 60 yard pass directly onto Armstrong's foot, but if he misses it completely it would be considered incomplete.