The statistics don't lie...or do they?

[david in sweden]

Those of you who don't like / dismiss stats. can avert your eyes as there is no obvious excuse for a side that has already shipped 41 goals, BUT

a closer look at the results shows another picture.  Blame the managers or their formations if you want, but the main reason for our sorry position

is down to the lack of goals scored and not necessarily the defenders who have conceded so many whilst keeping just  2 clean sheets, (both away).

it is also obvious that win, lose or draw we are most likely to concede at least once, and that the goal drought is the main cause and not those conceded. 

 

7 home defeats - (five of them by one goal margins) - is a miserable return from home games when we have managed to score just 10 times.

yet  12 ( of our measly 18 point tally)  have come from our 4 wins in away games, whilst scoring  just 9 goals . 

 

In short ..we have lost 10 games by a single goal margin, and failed to score at all in 9 games this season.

Whether we blame the strikers we put out every week , or the service they are given is open to argument,  but it's obvious that 

just one goal in any of those games those would have given us 10 very valuable points and a comfortable mid table slot.

Hopefully the remaining games ( 8 home and 6 away) can produce more goals and hopefully avoid the inevitable.

 

[Victor]

Blimey, an objective view.

The only other critical reviews I've read on this forum who have analysed the situation say it's down to the fact that they are all fucking stupid cunts and wankers.

 

 

[Micky]

I don't think you needed to highlight the stats, the problem has been clear to many on here for ages.  We are all well aware that our 'strikers' are basically crap.  Many, many posters on here have been saying for ages (from last season even) that we need a quality (QUALITY) striker - its been plain to see for ages without having to analyse any stats.  The reason for our demise has not been hard to see, but we have contrived to not address the problem. 

[spyinthesky]

I think the worrying thin recently and seems more evident since our two expensive January signings have arrived, is that we once created chances that were missed, now the team doesnt seem to be able to crate any chances at all.

Also at one time we seemed quite comfortable with the ball now passes go astray more often and our possession levels are poorer than they used to be.

There was spell in the second half yesterday when the team seemed to be able to pass the ball well and were on the front front.

This lasted about 5 mins then it was back to the mediocre style of play that has been so evident in recent times. 

[Galway saint]

But we don’t create chances now so that must be how we are set up to some degree. If we were more attack minded we would likely concede more but as we are cautious we don’t but you will always concede the odd goal and it’s that which kills us

[Saint Fan CaM]

3 hours ago, Galway saint said:

But we don’t create chances now so that must be how we are set up to some degree. If we were more attack minded we would likely concede more but as we are cautious we don’t but you will always concede the odd goal and it’s that which kills us

It’s a combination of how we’re setup, the lack of creativity in attack, slow pace of attack, the inability to attack as a unit, the lack of guile and movement to get into decent positions, the lack of accuracy in passing, the lack of shooting on target without the ball going directly at the GK.  It’s been like this for ages…Ings often masked the issue by coming deep to distribute the ball forward or actually try to take on defenders and create a shooting chance for himself. Even the worst sides in the league seem to get these basics right to a certain extent - except us.

[badgerx16]

This is all rubbish - the concensus seems to be that it is all Gavin Bazunu's fault 😉

[OttawaSaint]

When we have Adams we make chances that he misses when we don't have him we don't make chances.

I have a feeling we'll never see Sulemana or Tall Paul score.

[Weston Super Saint]

20 hours ago, david in sweden said:

Those of you who don't like / dismiss stats. can avert your eyes as there is no obvious excuse for a side that has already shipped 41 goals, BUT

a closer look at the results shows another picture.  Blame the managers or their formations if you want, but the main reason for our sorry position

is down to the lack of goals scored and not necessarily the defenders who have conceded so many whilst keeping just  2 clean sheets, (both away).

it is also obvious that win, lose or draw we are most likely to concede at least once, and that the goal drought is the main cause and not those conceded. 

 

7 home defeats - (five of them by one goal margins) - is a miserable return from home games when we have managed to score just 10 times.

yet  12 ( of our measly 18 point tally)  have come from our 4 wins in away games, whilst scoring  just 9 goals . 

 

In short ..we have lost 10 games by a single goal margin, and failed to score at all in 9 games this season.

Whether we blame the strikers we put out every week , or the service they are given is open to argument,  but it's obvious that 

just one goal in any of those games those would have given us 10 very valuable points and a comfortable mid table slot.

Hopefully the remaining games ( 8 home and 6 away) can produce more goals and hopefully avoid the inevitable.

 

This bit is horseshit.  The only way we would get '10 very valuable points' is if we scored 'just one goal' in ALL of those games, not 'any of those games'.

As for the rest of the post, it's just 'hindsight statistics' echoing what we've all seen with our own eyes - we don't score enough and we concede too many, hence our -22 goal difference.

[Saint Fan CaM]

8 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

This bit is horseshit.  The only way we would get '10 very valuable points' is if we scored 'just one goal' in ALL of those games, not 'any of those games'.

As for the rest of the post, it's just 'hindsight statistics' echoing what we've all seen with our own eyes - we don't score enough and we concede too many, hence our -22 goal difference.

It’s not really horseshit though is it? The GD is not that far behind other bottom 8 teams. However it’s clear our problem largely  lies game by game with our lack of potency in front of goal. It cannot be ignored because all the while we are creating chance in our final third, the opposing team has fewer opportunities to create themselves. Who was it that said the best form of defence is attack? They were right!

[Weston Super Saint]

1 minute ago, Saint Fan CaM said:

It’s not really horseshit though is it? The GD is not that far behind other bottom 8 teams. However it’s clear our problem largely  lies game by game with our lack of potency in front of goal. It cannot be ignored because all the while we are creating chance in our final third, the opposing team has fewer opportunities to create themselves. Who was it that said the best form of defence is attack? They were right!

Of course it is.  If we'd scored one more in one of those games ('any' from the original post), then we would have gained ONE more point.  To gain TEN points we would have had to score in ALL TEN games.  That's pretty simple maths, so not sure why you're arguing against it.

[Toussaint]

20 hours ago, Victor said:

Blimey, an objective view.

The only other critical reviews I've read on this forum who have analysed the situation say it's down to the fact that they are all fucking stupid cunts and wankers.

 

 

Two things can be true at the same time.

[Whitey Grandad]

9 hours ago, badgerx16 said:

This is all rubbish - the concensus seems to be that it is all Gavin Bazunu's fault 😉

No, it’s a team effort. Or lack of it.

[VectisSaint]

3 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said:

This bit is horseshit.  The only way we would get '10 very valuable points' is if we scored 'just one goal' in ALL of those games, not 'any of those games'.

As for the rest of the post, it's just 'hindsight statistics' echoing what we've all seen with our own eyes - we don't score enough and we concede too many, hence our -22 goal difference.

You're right but I think David simply misworded his point, its not horseshit. But your other comment shows that you missed the point. The problem is not that we have conceded too many, that is the point. The problem is that we haven't scored enough. Conceding 41 is 24 games is really not that catastrophic. But where I disagree with David is that thinking that if we scored one more goal in many games we would have a whole load more points, mathematically that is correct, but it doesn't work like that, more likely if we had scored one goal, then the opposition would have simply scored another.