S-Clarke Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 He's got such a positive aura about him and it certainly impacted on the team. The players knew what they had to do, he didn't overcomplicate anything and I'm genuinely chuffed for him as it seems like he deserves it and the players seem totally for him. This guy is a coach, but the way he looks and caries himself makes him look like a leading CL manager compared to Jones. 14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedArmy Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 Better than the Welsh wanker 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 As I just wrote on another thread, keep the guy. Tactics are tactics and everyone knows them. Get the guy the players want to play for. Sometimes it is because of reputation, like a Klopp, or sometimes it is a guy the players like. I vote we keep the guy who just beat Chelsea and wants the job. rather than find another manager like Jones who is here for the paycheck. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SotonianWill Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 got to give him the job now !! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 (edited) Ok, I’m a convert. he just said we’ll go to Leeds and ‘hunt’ them and pleaded with the fans be there for the players, and the players will be there for you. Not a single iota of madness or insanity in the post match interview. Just refreshingly upbeat and normal. Wow, did we really pay £8m for a mad fraudster 😂 Edited 19 February, 2023 by Crab Lungs 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, SotonianWill said: got to give him the job now !! No. He has to beat Leeds first. This is just classic Saints otherwise . Beat the team you should lose against and then lose to the team you should beat. Edited 18 February, 2023 by BotleySaint 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 (edited) Important to remember that Rasmus doesn't fancy him. Wanted to give the job to Marsch and only pulled the plug because we couldn't afford the compensation / financial terms. Hired Jones... and kept him for far too long though - this is the guy running our recruitment 😰 Edited 18 February, 2023 by Saint86 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 Good man. What a difference. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 20 minutes ago, BotleySaint said: No. He has to beat Leeds first. This is just classic Saints otherwise . Beat the team you should lose against and then lose to the team you should beat. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westmidlandsaint Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 My 13 year old wants to know what that words are to the "we've got Selles, Reuben Selles" song couldn't quite work it out. Anyone shed some light? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 Just imagine if we'd have had Selles last week as well. We'd have most likely won that too. Shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, skintsaint said: Edited 18 February, 2023 by hypochondriac Copied in error 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 3 minutes ago, westmidlandsaint said: My 13 year old wants to know what that words are to the "we've got Selles, Reuben Selles" song couldn't quite work it out. Anyone shed some light? He’s gonna keep us up, and win the FA Cup 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 5 minutes ago, hypochondriac said: Just imagine if we'd have had Selles last week as well. We'd have most likely won that too. Shame. I think we'd have won last week if we'd had anyone but NJ in charge, to be honest. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adrian lord Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 Please give Rueben the gig. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 It’s a no-brainier for me, the players clearly want to play for him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 Fair play to him, seems I was massively wrong in my assessment of giving him a chance, couldn’t be happier to be wrong today. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 The biggest difference from his post and pre match pressers is his positivity, not just by what he says but his actual demeanour when he's presenting his views. For years we've been made to believe we're lucky to even be at this level, but now we have someone blowing positivity up the players arses and it will also inject that into the fans. Little things can sometimes make all the difference, and that's not even tactical. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 (edited) 45 minutes ago, westmidlandsaint said: My 13 year old wants to know what that words are to the "we've got Selles, Reuben Selles" song couldn't quite work it out. Anyone shed some light? We've got Selles... Ruben Selles. I just don't think you understand. He's gonna keep us up, and win the F.A Cup, We've got Ruben Selles! Edited 18 February, 2023 by saintscottofthenortham 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintscottofthenortham Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 4 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: The biggest difference from his post and pre match pressers is his positivity, not just by what he says but his actual demeanour when he's presenting his views. For years we've been made to believe we're lucky to even be at this level, but now we have someone blowing positivity up the players arses and it will also inject that into the fans. Little things can sometimes make all the difference, and that's not even tactical. I thought he had that air about him beforehand. Spoke clearly about going there to win and sounded like he genuinely believed, even if none of us did. 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 51 minutes ago, saintscottofthenortham said: We've got Selles... Ruben Selles. I just don't think you understand. He's gonna keep us up, and win the F.A Cup, We've got Ruben Selles! People were singing it on the concourse before the game. Don't know where it came from or who thought of it, but really is very catchy and when a couple of thousand sing it, it's so much better than the anti-pompey songs. Think Selles also appreciated it when he came over to us after the game. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 1 hour ago, Saint86 said: Important to remember that Rasmus doesn't fancy him. Wanted to give the job to Marsch and only pulled the plug because we couldn't afford the compensation / financial terms. Hired Jones... and kept him for far too long though - this is the guy running our recruitment 😰 You couldn’t of really got it more wrong tbh - Rasmus hired him - Has asked every managerial appointment to ensure they worked with him - Marsch pulled the plug not Rasmus But you know.. unsubstantiated anger is always best 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Ralph Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 (edited) Making the change on 55 mins to bring on Mara, Walcott and Armstrong was great. We had lost our press and Chelsea were running riot. Swift and decisive management meant that we had extra energy for the press again and pushed them back 20 yards. I thought that tactically he was very good Edited 18 February, 2023 by Sir Ralph 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 18 February, 2023 Author Share Posted 18 February, 2023 Things needed in a relegation battle: - Players behind the manager - Fans behind the manager - Clear tactical instruction - Good home atmosphere - A bit of inspiration (JWP) - Luck with other results Selles helps with 4/6 of these, no brainer to give him the job at least til the end of the season and IMO that is regardless of what happens versus Leeds. He has shown enough already, just like many were almost instantly unconvinced by Jones. Capitalise on the momentum and confirm him on Monday. (He also feels like someone who could be supported fans next season even in the (fairly likely) event that we go down. Absolute no brainer. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 Spoke with just a completely serene confidence pre match, no sense of arrogance, just an authority and a feel of a real positivity I think he deserved and now deserves a chance, for me, short of a capitulation at Leeds OR a big name coming in I think give him the rest of the season Its shit or bust now anyway with very little to lose, the players seem to be really engaged with him, his tactics are back to how I feel we’re set up and play best.. christ… he even got a tune out of Walcott and Bednarek I also fear, after today, considering he seems to have SUCH an affinity with the players that IF we replace him with somebody mediocre then it could have a negative affect on the squad He did brilliantly today 👏🏻 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 4 minutes ago, Sir Ralph said: Making the change on 55 mins to bring on Mara, Walcott and Armstrong was great. We had lost our press and Chelsea were running riot. Swift and decisive management meant that we had extra energy for the press again and pushed them back 20 yards. I thought that tactically he was very good I thought that, originally I worried we’d lost our out ball but certainly Onuachu and Stu looked knackered Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Dusic said: Things needed in a relegation battle: - Players behind the manager - Fans behind the manager - Clear tactical instruction - Good home atmosphere - A bit of inspiration (JWP) - Luck with other results Selles helps with 4/6 of these, no brainer to give him the job at least til the end of the season and IMO that is regardless of what happens versus Leeds. He has shown enough already, just like many were almost instantly unconvinced by Jones. Capitalise on the momentum and confirm him on Monday. (He also feels like someone who could be supported fans next season even in the (fairly likely) event that we go down. Absolute no brainer. Agree with this. If he can do the following things before the end of the season (regardless if we go down or not) I think we should give him a chance next season. -implement a clear style/identity that the players buy into -connect with the supporters -ensure the team gives 100% and are competitive in every game -win a few matches along the way Arguably he's done most of that in 1 game! Edited 18 February, 2023 by Harry_SFC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 12 minutes ago, Smirking_Saint said: Spoke with just a completely serene confidence pre match, no sense of arrogance, just an authority and a feel of a real positivity I think he deserved and now deserves a chance, for me, short of a capitulation at Leeds OR a big name coming in I think give him the rest of the season Its shit or bust now anyway with very little to lose, the players seem to be really engaged with him, his tactics are back to how I feel we’re set up and play best.. christ… he even got a tune out of Walcott and Bednarek I also fear, after today, considering he seems to have SUCH an affinity with the players that IF we replace him with somebody mediocre then it could have a negative affect on the squad He did brilliantly today 👏🏻 The worst thing would be to keep him just in a caretaker mode. It smacks of “we don’t trust you”. We are so far down the road this season that I think we must give him the job until the end of the season at least, with an extend option in the contract. Jesse Marsch was about the best we could hope for before today, and given the upgrade in performance we’ve seen,, Marsch could well be a downgrade. Players clearly like Ruben, and the first half seeemed to me to give us back an identity, I thought we were great. This season is about potential survival and everyone needs to be onboard for that, today showed that we might have stumbled upon the solution. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 He’s got the aura of a proper manager, the players seem to play for him, he speaks well and honestly, no sign of a massive chip on his shoulder. I’m on board. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 19 minutes ago, Jack said: He’s got the aura of a proper manager, the players seem to play for him, he speaks well and honestly, no sign of a massive chip on his shoulder. I’m on board. Saw his post match interview on Soccer Saturday- immediately thought “I’ll buy some of whatever you’re selling”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sadoldgit Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 Anyone that can name Janny B and Moi in the starting line up and bring on Walcott with a significant period of the match still to be played and not get strung up by a baying mob after the game deserves the job full time! 4 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 (edited) Just listened back to his post-match comments on the Saints site, and he says another standout thing for me. ''We have been in situations like this before in the season, and maybe we haven't used the substitutions well enough and have been too late in making them. We knew the 10's and the strikers were very tired after their efforts pressing, so it was critical we refreshed them early'' How fricking refreshing is it to hear someone speak the minds of the fans?? Obviously it's still way early days, but given the slight differences we've seen today you just wonder how side-lined his views have actually been this year. Edited 18 February, 2023 by S-Clarke 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 1 minute ago, S-Clarke said: Just listened back to his post-match comments on the Saints site, and he says another standout thing for me. ''We have been in situations like this before in the season, and maybe we haven't used the substitutions well enough and have been too late. We knew the 10's and the strikers were very tired after their efforts pressing, so it was critical we refreshed them early'' How fricking refreshing is it to hear someone speak the minds of the fans?? Obviously it's still way early days, but given the slight differences we've seen today you just wonder how side-lined his views have actually been this year. I remember someone posting on here that there seemed to be a difference of opinion between him and NJ at a game - possibly expressing his views then? Mind you I could also be talking Bollox. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorsaint Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 On 17/02/2023 at 20:45, Golac's Cunning Stunts said: The problem I have with your argument, and it's one I have seen many times, is that you are doing the exact same thing you are accusing others of doing. You don't like people being stereotyped because they're Welsh or black or muslim, or whatever. You don't want people to make assumptions based on that, which is absolutely right (doesn't stop the scots, Irish, Welsh calling us english bastards at the rugby though funnily enough, which seems more than acceptable), However, you're quick yourself to jump in the same boat "you voted for brexit" "you like Jeremy Clarkson" i.e he is white, english, of a certain class. So what exactly if he voted for Brexit or he didn't? Just shows you have prejudices too I'm afraid You make a fair point on my hypocrisy. Mostly trolling to get the reaction which, predictably, came but its true intelligent people should rise above. I will observe some introspection and whilst still calling out xenophobia and racism will keep my own opinions of the perpetrators to myself (although its pretty hard) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorsaint Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 3 hours ago, RedArmy said: Better than the Welsh wanker English tit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 Love him already 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southamptonfc Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 If we/he/they can beat Leeds, give him the job. Not difficult but he was more inspiring and talked more sense in 2mins than Jones' whole tenure. And his suit was proper Premier League manager quality! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toadhall Saint Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 42 minutes ago, Warriorsaint said: English tit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 36 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: Love him already Well he looks the part and sounds the part. A good win today in a game we traditionally lose. Players clearly love him. What’s not to like. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 36 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said: Love him already Yep. And the players clearly love him too. It’s really nice to see them so happy - which means they’ll absolutely lift their games. They're talented young guys, they just need some direction. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 59 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said: I remember someone posting on here that there seemed to be a difference of opinion between him and NJ at a game - possibly expressing his views then? Mind you I could also be talking Bollox. I remember Jones basically telling Selles to piss off back to his seat at one stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killers Knee Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 The new manager bounce finally hits. Seeing how the team have bonded with him relieves me of any doubt that he is our man. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodsaint1 Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 That should be the instruction to Selles - win at Leeds and the job is yours until the end of the season. Will be a big motivator and added incentive for him to put everything into this game, which he'll be doing already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 4 hours ago, Saint86 said: Important to remember that Rasmus doesn't fancy him. Wanted to give the job to Marsch and only pulled the plug because we couldn't afford the compensation / financial terms. Hired Jones... and kept him for far too long though - this is the guy running our recruitment 😰 What Bolx. Rasmus got him from a Danish club. He was always the long term plan (like Thomas Frank at Brentford), but the question was always "is the time right?". The players are on side, a lot of the fans are in side. And you go back and look to see how long it took for Frank to get a decent number of points on the board at Brentford. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 (edited) I’ve changed my mind. Give him the job. The list of alternatives is very underwhelming, we’ve got 15 games left and relegation still looks very likely. The players love him, he comes across very well, and he wants it. I’d rather that than some ego boss like Gerrard or Lampard. Yes @sadoldgit I am arrogantly giving Selles my seal of approval Edited 18 February, 2023 by Turkish 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintlySaz Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 4 hours ago, Saint86 said: Important to remember that Rasmus doesn't fancy him. Wanted to give the job to Marsch and only pulled the plug because we couldn't afford the compensation / financial terms. Hired Jones... and kept him for far too long though - this is the guy running our recruitment 😰 He's probably the only person who doesn't fancy him... 😏😏 Oh, you mean for the job. Sorry yes. As you were. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 1 hour ago, Toadhall Saint said: I remember someone posting on here that there seemed to be a difference of opinion between him and NJ at a game - possibly expressing his views then? Mind you I could also be talking Bollox. Newcastle away 2nd leg, defo something was going on, or off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelkel31 Posted 18 February, 2023 Share Posted 18 February, 2023 Far too premature just to be saying give him the job, Chelsea are also a poor team at the moment and of course there is the obvious issues with the caretaker manager not transitioning into a good manager on far too many occasions. Lets break down what i think so far Press work - top notch, not even taking account of what he's being based against, he has spoken very well Team selection - Questionable. I understand the KWP being left out, that's fine coming back from injury but Bednarek and Elyounoussi, I'm sorry just no. Moi proved again how he is just a waste of a shirt and all that can be said of Jonny B is we didn't notice he was in the game, that was enough for today. Performance - The players played today, worked as a team, worked hard and had quality at times as well. Definite change of style, possession stats in the first half were quite even and we moved the ball well at times. Desire was there to keep a clean sheet and Bazunu showed more confidence than he has in many matches. Substitutions - timing was great, maybe what allowed us to keep the lead. Wasn't happy that Moi and AMN stayed on. I understand that the front line were tiring but i think AMN was an accident waiting to happen and KWP would have provided good energy and Moi was so wasteful they may have been more important changes , tall Paul's race was clearly run. So the Leeds game is massive, we win and he probably has to have more games maybe even the end of the season, lose and its anybody's guess. Something also needs to be said about DCC and Orsic if at all possible(i.e not some disciplinary process), we cant afford to waste talent. 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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