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Chewy

Chewy

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6 hours ago, Turkish said:

For every midfielder that gets a yellow card in the first half and gets a red in the second I expect there are 100 others that don’t. Didn’t KWP and Perrard also get yellows in the first half? He didn’t take either of those off. Come on Egg, Alcarez was the best player on the pitch in the first half, the tactical change was right but the sub wasn’t. Armstrong, Elyanoussi and Walcott all offered considerably less than Alcarez in the first half. It was a strange choice. Armstrong of Elyanoussi would have been my choice as a sub, they offered nothing all game. To take the player off who’d scored, Set one up an headed one off the line and generally been excellent was wierd when there are lest 3 others who could have come off instead 

Exactly this. Plus what if we’d conceded immediately after the break? Plan down the drain and now you’ve lost our best player and the flexibility of using him for further tactical changes. Kudos on going to the back 5 but Armstrong was the right player to go off. He had no energy and no more pace than Charlie. I’d have stuck Charlie up top. 
The subbing of Lavia, however, was criminal. What was the point in that? Stick Diallo on a flank to replace the exhausted (and pointless) Moi, but Lavia and JWP had shut down the centre of their attacking midfield for 43 minutes and didn’t look overly tired. We’re not playing again until Thursday. What was 5 minutes extra rest going to accomplish?

I’d struggle to conceive of a worse substitution at that point.

On a wider level, the game also taught us little we don’t already know. We’ve been coached for years to press high. When we get it right we’re good. But the tactic is only relevant when we’re playing a stronger side who will take on the challenge and attack us. All our good performances for years have been in this scenario.

What we can’t do (and this game, or the ones v Chelsea, United or City don’t alter) is break down anyone. At all. Ever. Not even Grimsby.

Unfortunately the majority of games in the league will require us to do this. We can’t, so we lose most, so we’re getting relegated.

Selles to me seems obsessed with playing in this manner and until we see something different in those type of games I fear our fate will remain the same. Probably starting on Thursday.

I really, really, desperately hope to be proved wrong for the club’s sake, but think it very unlikely. Selles’ obsess with this tactic worries me now, and really concerns me for next season when everyone will sit in against us.

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Turkish

Turkish

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1 hour ago, Chewy said:

Exactly this. Plus what if we’d conceded immediately after the break? Plan down the drain and now you’ve lost our best player and the flexibility of using him for further tactical changes. Kudos on going to the back 5 but Armstrong was the right player to go off. He had no energy and no more pace than Charlie. I’d have stuck Charlie up top. 
The subbing of Lavia, however, was criminal. What was the point in that? Stick Diallo on a flank to replace the exhausted (and pointless) Moi, but Lavia and JWP had shut down the centre of their attacking midfield for 43 minutes and didn’t look overly tired. We’re not playing again until Thursday. What was 5 minutes extra rest going to accomplish?

I’d struggle to conceive of a worse substitution at that point.

On a wider level, the game also taught us little we don’t already know. We’ve been coached for years to press high. When we get it right we’re good. But the tactic is only relevant when we’re playing a stronger side who will take on the challenge and attack us. All our good performances for years have been in this scenario.

What we can’t do (and this game, or the ones v Chelsea, United or City don’t alter) is break down anyone. At all. Ever. Not even Grimsby.

Unfortunately the majority of games in the league will require us to do this. We can’t, so we lose most, so we’re getting relegated.

Selles to me seems obsessed with playing in this manner and until we see something different in those type of games I fear our fate will remain the same. Probably starting on Thursday.

I really, really, desperately hope to be proved wrong for the club’s sake, but think it very unlikely. Selles’ obsess with this tactic worries me now, and really concerns me for next season when everyone will sit in against us.

Jacob Tanswell made a very good tweet the other day something along the lines of we don’t have play makers anymore we have play stoppers, attacking players tasked with stopping the other team playing.
 

Spot on, players that run and press and hope to force mistakes from the opposition but when we’ve got the ball no on that knows what to do with it. that’s fine but when these bottom 10 teams play is they know exactly what to do and that we won’t be able to break them down. 
 

 

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egg

egg

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10 hours ago, Turkish said:

For every midfielder that gets a yellow card in the first half and gets a red in the second I expect there are 100 others that don’t. Didn’t KWP and Perrard also get yellows in the first half? He didn’t take either of those off. Come on Egg, Alcarez was the best player on the pitch in the first half, the tactical change was right but the sub wasn’t. Armstrong, Elyanoussi and Walcott all offered considerably less than Alcarez in the first half. It was a strange choice. Armstrong of Elyanoussi would have been my choice as a sub, they offered nothing all game. To take the player off who’d scored, Set one up an headed one off the line and generally been excellent was wierd when there are lest 3 others who could have come off instead 

KWP and Perraud are experienced. I'd have faith in those 2 avoiding a second yellow, especially in the full back positions. Alcaraz is a different animal, and more hot headed. If he wasn't on a yellow he'd have stayed on, but that he was on a yellow is why he was hooked rather than Ely or AA imo. There was a solid case for taking AA off at half time and shifting Alcaraz up top and out of the midfield, but people will have whinged of we'd done that anyway. Indeed, people will have whinged if he'd stayed on and got a second yellow saying they could see it coming etc. We all see it differently, but I could see the logic of what he did. Regardless, the change that killed us was Lavia going off for Diallo. We'd also have benefitted from having Mara on the bench to run the channels and stretch them a bit. 

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derry

derry

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I was disappointed by Alcaraz's substitution but with his combative style and the level of cheating and rolling around of top side's players, Arsenal may well have had him sent off by the trigger happy referee. Martinelli's cynical backing under Bednarek then gesturing innocence deserved a red card for the cynicism never mind the danger of serious spinal injury. That needs seriously stamping on as did Martinelli. More to the point neither Elyounoussi nor Armstrong should have been on the pitch or even in the squad in the first place as the result was down to the vision and energy of Alcaraz. The other two just minced about the pitch mostly in dead ground and virtually avoided physical challenges by not getting close.

Selles hasn't a clue about managing or picking the best team, he is just another coach with a load of qualifications and a head full of minutiae. We need a big picture manager that sees the game in simple terms and picks players that do the job and complement each other. Rather than tinker every week, picks square pegs in round holes and players that contribute next to nothing.

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The Kraken

The Kraken

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14 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said:

Nathan Jones is better than this utter fraud.

Just think, Selles was being groomed to take over from ralph, probably Summer of 2023....

Not having that. Nathan Jones was a special,p kind of terrible.

Selles is proving himself well out of his depth. Just doesn’t know how to create a settled side, and no idea how to be a manager. Likely a reasonable coach with so good ideas but not got enough about him to put them together.

His appointment was utterly bizarre. Ralph was basically forced to empty him as his coach. Just a ridiculous summer, kept on a manager who should’ve gone then forced him to have a number one that the board signed off on. Well done SR. Clueless.

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Mr Nimbus

Mr Nimbus

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His decision making throughout his tenure has been questionable. The Diallo sub at Arsenal and the switch to a back three today proves it that simply he cannot manage at this level.

You don't get anywhere these days playing negative pragmatic football. Get rid now and start the process of recruiting a manager for the Championship.

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Dman

Dman

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Surely he can’t survive this game? If anything screams unable to motivate a team, this performance was it. 
 

We need a proper cunt in the dugout, someone not afraid to throw a few digs at these pricks. 
 

Honestly would be happy to see pulis come in for 5 games just to stick a fucking rocket up their arse. 

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trousers

trousers

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1 minute ago, BotleySaint said:

There is actually no point continuing with him. Might as well sack him now. 

This. And play the B team for the rest of the season. 

The Kraken

The Kraken

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He’s the Spanish Terry Connor. Just clueless. The Chelsea performance and subs made was excellent. Since then, he’s just proved himself to be a dopey clueless cunt. Fuck off lad, enjoy your payday.

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Dman

Dman

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9 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

He’s the Spanish Terry Connor. Just clueless. The Chelsea performance and subs made was excellent. Since then, he’s just proved himself to be a dopey clueless cunt. Fuck off lad, enjoy your payday.

Covered the cracks. Chelsea are a poor side. 

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The Kraken

The Kraken

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3 minutes ago, Dman said:

Covered the cracks. Chelsea are a poor side. 

It did what it needed to do. Bournemouth are a terrible side, and our lack of tactics and wrong choice of side completely undid us. Chelsea away was a job well done. Today was an indication that it was a fluke.

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stknowle

stknowle

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13 minutes ago, The Kraken said:

He’s the Spanish Terry Connor. Just clueless. The Chelsea performance and subs made was excellent. Since then, he’s just proved himself to be a dopey clueless cunt. Fuck off lad, enjoy your payday.

Couldn't agree more. Just because Nathan Jones was a useless cunt doesn't mean the bloke that replaces him is guaranteed to be less useless. On the balance of probabilities he should be less useless but it turns out we got someone who isn't less useless. Yes players have to take their share of the blame but I'm sorry, I'm not having it, the pair of them have demonstrated how utterly unfit for the job they both were/are throughout their respective times in charge. Neither of them are capable of  discerning the difference between decent footballer and a carrot.

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woodsaint1

woodsaint1

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We wouldnt have been as bad under Nathan Jones tonight....thats how hopeless we've been under Selles. No tactical clue, starting with no strikers in a must win game - just shambolic. Massively out of his depth. Some coaches should just stay as coaches

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Give it to Ron

Give it to Ron

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How long does it take that useless prick to make a sub?

Mara scores against City has he had a minute since yet we play Armstrong who is so lost it’s unbelievable ! 
Don’t start me on Ely useless what did he actually do tonight again one good turn then lost it as was treading water.

No focal point no outlet Billings had the freedom of park and what did our tactical genius do…..nothing waves his arm .

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Badger

Badger

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3 minutes ago, woodsaint1 said:

We wouldnt have been as bad under Nathan Jones tonight....thats how hopeless we've been under Selles. No tactical clue, starting with no strikers in a must win game - just shambolic. Massively out of his depth. Some coaches should just stay as coaches

Board acted too soon in appointing him. Then stuck with it, not that they’ve shown the imagination or initiative to be able to make a change. 

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pimpin4rizeal

pimpin4rizeal

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How one man can be so completely and utterly blind not too mention negative and absolutely clueless is beyond me .. the teams he picks do exactly what any sane person knows they are gonna do .. every week he picks the absolutely most negative possible and every week we create fuck all

for the people that think jones was worse was he fuck! Are you really that short sighted to let a couple of extra points blind you away from selles team sheets making absolutely no sense whatsoever .. jones was starting to play 433 with edozie starting most games, the line up he started in his last game would be what we are would be seeing now and it’s a thousand times better then selles..

we are also letting this absolute bellend waste every signing we made in the January window bar Alcaraz 

of all the bad moves we have made this year giving this guy the job in a relegation battle is the worst of the lot 

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Badger

Badger

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He lost me with the West Ham team and performance.

Too many piss poor selections and performances in winnable games. 
 

Unbelievable shambles of a club, from the top down. 

IFHP

IFHP

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36 minutes ago, woodsaint1 said:

We wouldnt have been as bad under Nathan Jones tonight....thats how hopeless we've been under Selles. No tactical clue, starting with no strikers in a must win game - just shambolic. Massively out of his depth. Some coaches should just stay as coaches

There’s no evidence he’s a good coach . Came in the summer and we have got worse and worse .

Fuck he off completely from our club 

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Badger

Badger

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6 minutes ago, IFHP said:

There’s no evidence he’s a good coach . Came in the summer and we have got worse and worse .

Fuck he off completely from our club 

Wonder who selected him. Not sure Ralph would have heard of him or identified him.

Previous club, Copenhagen… Denmark..  hmmm 🤔 

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