Jesse Marsch

[IFHP]

39 minutes ago, DonnieD said:

 It's about saving money, they believe the club is going down anyway.

That’s about the only thing Sports Republic have been right about since they took over .

We are going down . 

 

[Toussaint]

50 minutes ago, Edmonton Saint said:

 

I'm probably reading too much into this, but is it possible that Rasmus , the self proclaimed football and life in general genius, wants more input than any self respecting manager would tolerate? Did we ever establish who the unnamed external influence was that NJ was having a go about?

[jamesfp1]

Wow. Thought this was absolutely done. We're awful aren't we.

[stevy777_x]

3 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

Wow only weds and so much has happened this week.

Am quite looking forward to seeing who Selles picks, he argued with Mad Nat and ralph started listening to him during games and we seemed to improve (relatively).

Being an optimistic sort I expect we are seeing the first viewing of the new Mourinho (porto vintage).

Players wont want relegation, Selles wants a chance a leading a club so both groups will be highly motivated and with the new boys still amped I think we might be ok.

I dont really expect us to get anything out of the chelsea game but I do expect that the performance we see from the players gives us hope.

 

Do you remember how shit we were against Sheffield Wednesday with him in charge?

[Rivers]

You couldn't make it up, could you?

They appoint a useless sack of shit no one wanted, stand by him through protests, until it's too late, then get rid.

Then when we come to getting a replacement, they leak the usual shite like Lampard, Rooney, Gerrard so we all convince ourselves that Marsch is the best of a few bad options.

We pretty much arrive at a consensus that most of us can see why we'd go for Marsch and would fully support the appointment. We've finally got someone we'd all sort of like, then the Club fuck up the contract and he walks. Everyone else must be pissing themselves at SFC and our totally inept Board.

We don't just buy success failure, we breed it.

Its The Southampton Way.

[James]

Just now, Convict Colony said:

Wow only weds and so much has happened this week.

Am quite looking forward to seeing who Selles picks, he argued with Mad Nat and ralph started listening to him during games and we seemed to improve (relatively).

Being an optimistic sort I expect we are seeing the first viewing of the new Mourinho (porto vintage).

Players wont want relegation, Selles wants a chance a leading a club so both groups will be highly motivated and with the new boys still amped I think we might be ok.

I dont really expect us to get anything out of the chelsea game but I do expect that the performance we see from the players gives us hope.

 

I can’t see past the fact Selles has been here all season and it’s been a disaster. If he’s that inspiring a leader then you’d have thought he’d have imposed his views so far - he is a senior part of the coaching team - and if he has already then he’s partly responsible for the clusterfuck we’ve endured so far this season. We were also absolutely awful in that game v Wednesday that he took charge of.

 

Honestly, how we can, on the one hand, be negotiating ourselves out of a slightly longer contract with Marsch but, on the other, be content to proceed with Selles is absolutely beyond me. It’ll cost these SR amateurs far more than even having to pay off Marsch when we go down. It’s as if we are watching a masterclass in how not to run a football club right now.

[Southner]

tHe SoUtHaMpToN wAy   

[revolution saint]

Shame.  Was really coming round to the idea of Marsch and he seemed the best fit and best chance if we're serious about avoiding relegation.  FFS Rasmus is going to take a lot of flak when we go down.

[Viking Saint]

1 minute ago, James said:

I can’t see past the fact Selles has been here all season and it’s been a disaster. If he’s that inspiring a leader then you’d have thought he’d have imposed his views so far - he is a senior part of the coaching team - and if he has already then he’s partly responsible for the clusterfuck we’ve endured so far this season. We were also absolutely awful in that game v Wednesday that he took charge of.

 

Honestly, how we can, on the one hand, be negotiating ourselves out of a slightly longer contract with Marsch but, on the other, be content to proceed with Selles is absolutely beyond me. It’ll cost these SR amateurs far more than even having to pay off Marsch when we go down. It’s as if we are watching a masterclass in how not to run a football club right now.

He's been here for longer than that, hasn't he??

[Convict Colony]

Boys life is better when your optimistic

At this rate I'd tell JWP to pick the team and get on with it.

[Ball boy]

Surely the obvious play was a 2.5 or 3.5 year deal with a club relegation get out clause so that we could reconsider if it didn’t go to plan but it could be spun as a longer term deal to the players and media? 

[Convict Colony]

2 minutes ago, stevy777_x said:

Do you remember how shit we were against Sheffield Wednesday with him in charge?

If I dont remember then it didnt happen but I do remember how shit we have been all season.

[Toussaint]

Another possibility is  this is evidence that the powers don't believe for a minute we will stay up, and don't want to pay Marsch PL manager wages when in the champ?

[James]

Just now, Viking Saint said:

He's been here for longer than that, hasn't he??

Was appointed in pre-season when we decided to continue with Ralph but overhauled the coaching staff. Point is, he has (at least in part) been a mainstay of this god awful season. The idea that he can now step up and save us and that he’s a better bet than a manager like Marsch is a complete joke. 

[saintwbu]

I think if you’d have told fans back when Selles joined the club that he’d be in charge at some point it probably wouldn’t have surprised many, just not sure 2 sackings and a break down of talks would’ve been expected before it happened. 

[Toussaint]

1 minute ago, Convict Colony said:

Boys life is better when your optimistic

At this rate I'd tell JWP to pick the team and get on with it.

Could do a lot worse, he'd want the best players around him, who could want Diallo, Djnepo,  Walcott or Elyounoussi  anywhere near you in the midfield?

[Toussaint]

@MLG, why don't you jump in on the conversation instead of all these ridiculous emoji reactions?

[Nolan]

53 minutes ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

Wasn’t impressed with our performance at home to Sheff Wed in the League Cup when Selles was in charge. It was the same old crap tbh. Temporary managers never do well. The players know it’s temporary. 

[Guided Missile]

Sky sports reporting JM has turned us down.

[SW11_Saint]

51 minutes ago, Fitzhugh Fella said:

Wasn’t impressed with our performance at home to Sheff Wed in the League Cup when Selles was in charge. It was the same old crap tbh. Temporary managers never do well. The players know it’s temporary. 

Agreed. Hard to judge on that alone, but doesn’t feel like the type of personality to lead from the front. I’m not confident about his ability to fulfil this role at all. Much may depend on who they bring in alongside him. 

Sit back now and wait for the SFC ‘spin machine’ to go into action… “this is the best appointment”, “he has the respect of the players” etc. etc. 

[Guided Missile]

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12811739/jesse-marsch-talks-between-former-leeds-boss-and-southampton-break-down

[tunit]

1 minute ago, Nolan said:

They actually got off to a terrible start under him as well. Stuck with him and he turned it around

[Master Bates]

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Edited 15 February, 2023 by Master Bates
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[Crab Lungs]

With the players we’ve got already, he’d have been a great fit. Nahhhhh, haggle haggle, haggle - relaxed and confident.

[OldNick]

16 minutes ago, Crab Lungs said:

What an absolute clusterf()ck of a club. Not unreasonable for Marsch to want some security, especially if we’re selling him this grandiose vision beyond this year.

Will cost us a lot more going down than it will giving him a few extra £££s.

I did think it was weird the media were reporting yesterday he was ‘happy’ with 6 months. Sounds like this was released from our end, to apply pressure of some sort. 

Im sure the club are relaxed and confident though, absolute amateurish shiseters. 

'In the end he just felt having met the owners the project was not right for him' Alex Crook

 

[Saint NL]

I'm calling it now, Theo Walcott player-manager.

[Cascadia Saint]

This board are a joke.

There’s simply no time to fuck around anymore. 

After the debacle of Jones, and all the money splashed on varying degrees of mediocre players over the last year, NOW they want to save a couple of quid?

We don’t have to go down. It’s extremely fecking likely, but it’s not a given and if they really don’t want it to happen they need to get someone in to start working with the players.

FFS.

[Convict Colony]

1 minute ago, Master Bates said:

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Oh i love this game

Is it finger shit ?

[jayrivers]

So two days ago Marsch was useless, tactically inept, and a terrible appointment and it means the board have given up and it's a shamble, and we may as well have Selles in charge because the players really like him...

 

Today, the board are useless and have given up because we couldn't sign the manager that everyone thought was useless and would 100% take us down... 

 

If they don't see him as a long term solution at present, and he doesn't want a shorter term contract or a contract with clauses, then it's probably better to part ways. Personally he wouldn't have been my choice given his recent history, particularly at Leipzig, but I was happy to give him a chance given our predicament. However I don't think "missing out" on him is the be all and end all. 

 

Selles was brought in as a potential long term replacement for Ralph. I don't think rushing out to get a manager that may not save us from relegation anyway and just cause more issues is the right thing to do (I'm not saying that is or isn't Marsch). If the right person comes along then great! 

 

[Toadhall Saint]

2 minutes ago, OldNick said:

'In the end he just felt having met the owners the project was not right for him' Alex Crook

 

Cos he wanted a project that lasts as long as the HS2 project. We on the other hand….

[Crab Lungs]

5 minutes ago, Guided Missile said:

Sky sports reporting JM has turned us down.

With the propaganda bullsh1t that comes out of the club, who knows if that’s even true.

[Nordic Saint]

3 minutes ago, Guided Missile said:

https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11095/12811739/jesse-marsch-talks-between-former-leeds-boss-and-southampton-break-down

This is very good news. We've dodged a bullet there. 

[OldNick]

1 minute ago, Toadhall Saint said:

Cos he wanted a project that lasts as long as the HS2 project. We on the other hand….

He met the owners! Like meeting the Fockers I would have thought 

[woodsaint1]

1 minute ago, jayrivers said:

So two days ago Marsch was useless, tactically inept, and a terrible appointment and it means the board have given up and it's a shamble, and we may as well have Selles in charge because the players really like him...

 

Today, the board are useless and have given up because we couldn't sign the manager that everyone thought was useless and would 100% take us down... 

 

If they don't see him as a long term solution at present, and he doesn't want a shorter term contract or a contract with clauses, then it's probably better to part ways. Personally he wouldn't have been my choice given his recent history, particularly at Leipzig, but I was happy to give him a chance given our predicament. However I don't think "missing out" on him is the be all and end all. 

 

Selles was brought in as a potential long term replacement for Ralph. I don't think rushing out to get a manager that may not save us from relegation anyway and just cause more issues is the right thing to do (I'm not saying that is or isn't Marsch). If the right person comes along then great! 

 

It's how SWF operates

[The Cat]

4 minutes ago, tunit said:

They actually got off to a terrible start under him as well. Stuck with him and he turned it around

They lost 8 of the first 10 games under Thomas Frank. 

At least this latest news means we won't have fans or the club writing "We Marsch On" anymore, and for that I'm grateful.

[Nolan]

More experienced Coach...?

Get Beattie in to work with the Strikers?

 

 

 

[Master Bates]

4 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

Oh i love this game

Is it finger shit ?

No. Shit on his (Ankersens) face whilst sticking both mid fingers up his nostrils til he suffocates.

[Toadhall Saint]

1 minute ago, OldNick said:

He met the owners! Like meeting the Fockers I would have thought 

And they told him this is how long the project is going to last.

[Toussaint]

7 minutes ago, OldNick said:

'In the end he just felt having met the owners the project was not right for him' Alex Crook

 

Being dictated to by Rambo W wasn’t right for him. 

[Convict Colony]

Amigos we are now back over in the New Manager thread.

Jesse is dead.

[madge]

Stick with selles and perhaps add an experienced coach alongside him until end of the season. Then look who’s available at the end of the season. Always thought marsch was a bit knee jerk anyway. 

[Toussaint]

Is Rasmus a genetically modified Frankenstein hybrid of Clive Woodward, Rupert Lowe and Simon Clifford. Those  who also tried to reinvent the football wheel??? Grrrr 

[Toussaint]

1 minute ago, Convict Colony said:

Amigos we are now back over in the New Manager thread.

Jesse is dead.

RIP Jesse. 

[trousers]

2 minutes ago, Nolan said:

 

Alongside a "more experienced coach" = Jess Thorup maybe?

[goodymatt]

I’m actually pretty disappointed. I was looking forward to the return of attacking football and giving it a good go. If Sheffield Wednesday is anything to go by Selles is not the one. He also likes a 5 at the back doesn’t he? Sigh.

[SaintJakko]

Well that has certainly thrown a spanner in the works. Must admit I did not expect this news and thought it was a done deal. 
 

Finding it hard to see any likely quick in the door, fit the mould candidates. With Marsch’s Red Bull coaching and team setup fitting the bill of our current squad selection that’s been built for the past few years, it seemed a great match up. Obviously he always had question marks, especially in regards to how his teams got hit on the counter attack from his high press style, but with our faster CB’s namely ABK & Salisu, it seemed we were better fit for that style than that of Leeds. 
 

Looking likely now that it will just be Selles to the end of the season. Another great gamble that could be costly. We wait to see. 

[Miltonaggro]

16 minutes ago, Guided Missile said:

Sky sports reporting JM has turned us down.

Blimey! Obviously Semmens and Ankersen are more odious in the flesh than on Zoom! 

[melmacian_saint]

14 minutes ago, tunit said:

They actually got off to a terrible start under him as well. Stuck with him and he turned it around

If we think giving a newly promoted coach an extra 2-4 games in the first half of a 46-game season is the same as being bottom of the Premier League with 3 months to go, then we should be surprised that the result is probably not going to be the same. 

[Wade Garrett]

Fucking rotate!

[davefizzy14]

I'm surprised by the news today as I thought it was a done deal with Marsch.