Lee On Solent Saint Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 1 minute ago, tunit said: We really aren't down already though. Mathematically no, but I don't see it happening. We aren't looking like a team that can go on a winning run with only 16 games to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 (edited) If they rate Selles why didn’t they give him the job before talking to Marsch? Edited 15 February, 2023 by Fitzhugh Fella 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 ‘But by the way, you do still owe us for your hotel bill at the shitty place near the docks’ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonnieD Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 Just now, Fitzhugh Fella said: If they rate Selles why didn’t they give him the job before talking to Marsch? They don't really rate him. After blowing a large part of the budget on Mad Nate, SR are reluctant to give Marsch a longer contract. It's about saving money, they believe the club is going down anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 Having sat through the last year of Ralph's tenure plus the Mad Nate fiasco, you would at least hope Selles knows who not to pick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice29 Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 30 minutes ago, CB Fry said: We'll agree to disagree. Saying we're five points behind is a really lazy way of looking at it. Honestly that is loads and loads of points in the position we are in. We are miles off where we need to be, which for a rule of thumb is one-point-per-game. Even if we win the next three on the spin (dreamland) we still won't even have got to that metric. We will win some games, but I don't see that we are winning 5 of the next 16 (plus 6 draws, bare minimum to get to 36). We can only afford 5 more defeats in a season where we have already lost 15. To actually get to a point a game (38) that's at least 2 more draws or a win. So 4 more defeats this season, or just 3 more between now and the end? Really? Burnley were 3 points off after 38 games but they still went down. Three teams drop every season, we will be one of them. You might be right, maybe we will be one of them but this idea that we’re already down is wrong, it’s bullshit, it’s simply not true. Again, lots of talk about what we need, and how we get there, but there is at the very least 3 other teams in a very similar situation. We might be the worst team in this league but with 16 games to go, there’s no way we should be sticking our hand up and saying ‘don’t worry about us guys, we’re done, you guys fight it out’. Simply writing off the idea that we can get 5 more points than the others is madness. The idea that Leeds, Everton and Bournemouth are all picking up 36 points is only slightly less crazy than us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 4 minutes ago, DT said: Hilarious. Can’t even get him Southampton's talks with Jesse Marsch have broken down with the club reluctant to offer the manager a long-term contract #saintsfc @JWTelegraph Yes we can he didn’t want our terms you plonker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrSuess1979 Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 What a joke unfortunately the ball is not in our court anymore because of the complete Fck up that was NJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint In Cornwall Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 Marsch out and Harry Haddock in. It's a funny old game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Kraken Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 Appointing Selles seems to me like waving the white flag. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 It’s not rocket science is it. We wanted him on a short term contract to help us get out of relegation, he wants reassurance that if he does he could sign a longer contract but the club probably don’t rate him that high. In the summer Potter, Carrick plus many others would be great for us but at the moment those better targets are not available yet. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 1 minute ago, Pilchards said: It’s not rocket science is it. We wanted him on a short term contract to help us get out of relegation, he wants reassurance that if he does he could sign a longer contract but the club probably don’t rate him that high. In the summer Potter, Carrick plus many others would be great for us but at the moment those better targets are not available yet. Meanwhile we go down and none of those names will touch us. Brilliant. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 Why am I suddenly seeing stuff about Wayne Rooney on various outlets.....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 (edited) Bielsa with Selles perhaps. Edited 15 February, 2023 by OldNick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 1 minute ago, miserableoldgit said: Why am I suddenly seeing stuff about Wayne Rooney on various outlets.....? Only for SAGA life insurance 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 Can’t believe we’re getting Monica Selles. What does she even know about football? gotta say saints’ management is hilariously clusterfucky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 (edited) 10 minutes ago, DT said: Hilarious. Can’t even get him And if we'd got him but on a longer term contract there'd be people moaning that the contract was too long... "Damned if they do..." etc Edited 15 February, 2023 by trousers 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliemiller Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 I really dont blame him if they were only offering a contract till the end of this season , we are not gonna get anyone decent on that basis .....bloody numpties on the board 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 So unless he proves a miracle worker, the likelihood is that Saints will recruit a manager in the summer. At that point, Selles probably won’t want to go back to his assistant role, and the new bloke will want to bring his own staff in. Selles will probably leave, despite whatever ‘potential’ he had when we brought him in. Nice one Rasmus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, DT said: Can’t believe we’re getting Monica Selles. What does she even know about football? gotta say saints’ management is hilariously clusterfucky Hi delayed tremors Any chance you can take a few days off and give us all a break? Thanks in advance Edit: I don’t mean to be rude but you’re doing my fing head in. Go have sex or something Edited 15 February, 2023 by Raging Bull 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsLoyal Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 Someone just looked at his results and what leeds fans have been saying ? 😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedyfly Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 Honestly, I think this is the right call by the club, regardless of what I think of Jesse as a coach. His appointment is a potential PR nightmare if nothing else and possibly a footballing one. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Matty 76 Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 4 minutes ago, OldNick said: Bielsa with Selles perhaps I’d take this, worried that it could mean fucking Wilder though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 tHiS mEaNS wE cAn sTiLL gEt GrAHam PoTtEr wHeN ChELseA sAcK hiM 1 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 Just now, Saint Matty 76 said: I’d take this, worried that it could mean fucking Wilder though. Bielsa with the young players while thise season plays out but also giving Selles the back up. I think thats what Bielsa wanted for Everton??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 1 minute ago, CB Fry said: tHiS mEaNS wE cAn sTiLL gEt GrAHam PoTtEr wHeN ChELseA sAcK hiM Sorry have you morphed into Beckham or Rooney with typing like that 😃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee On Solent Saint Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 4 minutes ago, Greedyfly said: His appointment is a potential PR nightmare And you say this after Jones!!?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 7 minutes ago, DT said: Meanwhile we go down and none of those names will touch us. Brilliant. Yeah why would Carrick touch us playing in Championship ! He has only had a few month’s experience yet you think he would turn us down and we are going to approach him anyway you are not good at this despite all your practice. Second rate B&B what do you expect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 What a shambles. Seems like the club saw him as a caretaker... whether we didn't want him if we went down, or didn't want him if we stayed up isn't clear, but logic says it must be one or the other. Selles. Crazy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 FFS. I hope Saints will pay for my We Marsch On tattoo to be removed. 1 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon3737 Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 21 minutes ago, Edmonton Saint said: I don’t blame him! I was relaxed when people were thinking both sides would be happy with a short contract, but clearly this was untrue. I’ve been persuaded over the last couple of days that he’d suit our players and get us back to Ralph’s original high press, high risk style. If we go down, at least go down fighting. It must be demoralising for Marsch to not feel that the club believe he’s the future. i understand the pragmatic decision (if he fails, we could end up having to pay wages for Ralph, Nathan, Jesse and a new manager all at once if none get new jobs by then). I don’t think a Big Sam or Rafa style manager would sit our players and certainly won’t give us any sort of preparation for hitting the ground running at the start of next season (especially if we’re relegated and demoralised). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, goodymatt said: Thoughts on the contract to the ends of the season? Suits both parties or is Jesse not fancying the championship if we go down? Hopefully he has the motivation to prove himself and we pull off the unthinkable. I’m thinking we will still drop unfortunately but support the appointment. When I first saw that I thought it read ‘short-term appointment until the end of the week’ Edited 15 February, 2023 by Whitey Grandad 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millbrook Saint Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 well the club have clearly given up on survival, not sure why I should pay any further instalments on my season ticket as the club have written off this season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Katalinic's 'tache Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 From a Leeds fan I know: "I think you've avoided a disaster there". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 3 minutes ago, Millbrook Saint said: well the club have clearly given up on survival, not sure why I should pay any further instalments on my season ticket as the club have written off this season In the terms you have to pay anyway. insert picture here of Corrie Kirk and dad 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 A week ago I wouldn’t have been super-excited at the prospect of Marsch as manager, so I’m not going to start crying now - even if I had started warming to the idea. And either way, at least Jones is gone. That said, what a f***ing shambles we are. SR have invested a lot of money and there’s plenty to be pleased with, but key decisions: Sign a striker this summer - failed Decide if Ralph is our man - failed Replace Ralph with a good manager - failed Sign a striker Jan 1st - failed Get a head of recruitment sorted - success … then they leave after 5 mins Appoint your number 1 target as new manager- seemingly failed Anyone get the impression our top executive(s) are utter failures? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedyfly Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 7 minutes ago, Lee On Solent Saint said: And you say this after Jones!!?? No, I say this because of Jones. The two aren't exclusive. Sigh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egg Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 13 minutes ago, Saint Matty 76 said: I’d take this, worried that it could mean fucking Wilder though. Wilder has proved himself a decent championship level manager. Wouldn't be my pick but we could do worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint NL Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 That was unexpected. We go again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 3 minutes ago, egg said: Wilder has proved himself a decent championship level manager. Wouldn't be my pick but we could do worse. oohhhh please no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 As everything was pretty much in place for an end of the season contract, with option to extend if all goes well maybe Marsch had a lack of faith in his ability to keep us up. If went went longer term and it didn't work out then we'd have to pay him off which we have spent a fortune on Jones so I can understand the reflectance to do that. Disappointing as I was warming to the idea and he was the best manager we could realistically have given us a small chance to get out. Not sure about Selles as he is part of the problem before so not sure how he will now be the solution. We look very Micky Mouse at the mo. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archers Road Stand Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 If we go for Selles then the club have accepted relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilchards Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 Ralph Jones or Nathan Hassenhutl could be our best option short term? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 What an absolute clusterf()ck of a club. Not unreasonable for Marsch to want some security, especially if we’re selling him this grandiose vision beyond this year. Will cost us a lot more going down than it will giving him a few extra £££s. I did think it was weird the media were reporting yesterday he was ‘happy’ with 6 months. Sounds like this was released from our end, to apply pressure of some sort. Im sure the club are relaxed and confident though, absolute amateurish shiseters. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crab Lungs Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 Honestly, angry at this. Amateurs. Absolute amateurs. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 This season has been one shambles after another. Why do we also seem to do all this stuff so publically now too? Jacob Tanswell is obviously fed info directly from the club because he was right on pretty much all of our January stuff and again broke the news of the Marsch interest. Why not keep things more in house and then not end up looking quite so shambolic? It reads like the club think we are down - to be fair thats about the only thing they have worked out correctly this season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiseone Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 (edited) Reports that talks have broken down. Edited 15 February, 2023 by Wiseone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 Might as well pack up and go home here lads - Selles will be a disaster. The Spanish Steve Wigley. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Bateman Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 1 minute ago, Crab Lungs said: Honestly, angry at this. Amateurs. Absolute amateurs. This! Just give him a contract, a proper one, FFS 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 Wow only weds and so much has happened this week. Am quite looking forward to seeing who Selles picks, he argued with Mad Nat and ralph started listening to him during games and we seemed to improve (relatively). Being an optimistic sort I expect we are seeing the first viewing of the new Mourinho (porto vintage). Players wont want relegation, Selles wants a chance a leading a club so both groups will be highly motivated and with the new boys still amped I think we might be ok. I dont really expect us to get anything out of the chelsea game but I do expect that the performance we see from the players gives us hope. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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