Jesse Marsch

[dronskisaint]

3 hours ago, Miltonaggro said:

Dental hygiene 

English as first language 

Comes from tough Wisconsin industrial town

Passionate

Controlled aggression 

Premier League experience 

Likeable

This 'tough Wisconsin industrial town'.....have you been there? 😉

 

[DT]

I love how one of the benefits we have alighted on is that he speaks 'full English'. Either that's a lot of bacon and eggs or it's nothing to get massively excited about as an attribute, surely to God?

[Charlie Wayman]

2 hours ago, vagab0nd said:

American here-

I’ll keep my Premier League allegiance private, but been a fan of Marsch and have followed him pretty closely ever since he moved to Europe, so have some thoughts.

-He was pretty much screwed from the beginning with Leeds, following Bielsa. Anyone who was appointed, barring a miracle worker, was pretty much screwed. The ground that Bielsa walks on is worshipped and there were many Leeds fans willing to get relegated with him at the helm. That kind of feverish, undying loyalty from a fanbase is nearly impossible to follow and to win the fans over after that is incredibly difficult.

-I’ve read some quotes from Leeds forum(s) on here the last day or two and I’m assuming they’re pulled off of MOT. While there are some reasonable fans, that place is littered with a lot of deluded types who think way too highly of themselves and their club’s stature in the game. That could probably be said for the vast majority of supporters’ forums to be fair, but some genuinely shocking opinions there. A good portion of MOT was fuming at Marsch for not giving Joe Gelhardt enough of a look-in at striker and for sending Charlie Cresswell on loan at the beginning of the season. Gelhardt is now on loan in the Championship and Cresswell has been very up and down for Millwall this season. Take what they say with a giant grain of salt.

-He shored Leeds up defensively, compared to Bielsa, while still maintaining a system that was more attack-oriented. When he was first hired and his sole job was to keep Leeds up, it often wasn’t pretty and it was clear he was just trying to keep the unit together and pulling in the same direction. I would expect similar at Southampton over the coming months, where some of his system is integrated but not the full setup. It will help that the majority of the Saints squad played under Hassenhutl, who comes from the RB setup and has a similar playing style.

-He was pretty badly let down by them not converting their chances and some mental mistakes at the back. The underlying numbers point to a squad that should have been 2-5 spots higher up the table when he was sacked. 7 of their 10 losses in the league this season were by one goal. Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades, but that’s a Leeds side that could have easily been higher up the table if a few breaks had gone their way. Whether that’s comforting or concerning for you, is obviously up for interpretation…

-I don’t think he ever really lost the dressing room at Leeds, which IMO says a lot, since results were hard to come by. It really wasn’t until the second half of the Nottingham Forest game where it started to become obvious (at least to me), that the race was up in terms of fan support and possibly belief from the team in what he was doing. The players worked hard and looked committed throughout his tenure.  

 

-As has been stated a few times now, he’s generally thought of as a genuinely good human. Obviously that only goes so far and this profession is about winning and getting results, but after enduring Nathan Jones, it will hopefully be a breath of fresh air for the players and the fans.

-He’s American, so while it’s stereotyping, he definitely has a lot of self-confidence, belief in himself and his team and a ‘never-say-die’ attitude. He’s incredibly bright and Ivy League educated and he’s quite transparent and honest when talking with the press. I know you Brits detest showing emotion and having a bit of personality 😉, so I do think that will grate at times, especially if results aren’t going well. I know it rubbed Leeds fans the wrong way quite often. So just prepare yourself.

-This will be the first time since he came to Europe that he won’t be following an incredibly successful manager. At Salzburg, it was Marco Rose who won everything there and left to become the Monchengladbach manager. He then followed one of the brightest, if not the brightest young managerial talent in the world at Leipzig with Nagelsmann. And then of course at Leeds, following a living legend who brought glory and good times to the club that supporters hadn’t seen in nearly a generation. I think it’ll do him a world of good coming in after a man who was, by most accounts, universally disliked by supporters.

-His system has flaws, like every system does. Their pressing style left them dangerously exposed on counter attacks at times, especially at fullback. In attack, things often felt compacted and congested in the middle with not enough width in the opponents’ half or final third. The quick transitions forward, when they worked, were scintillating at times but when they break down, which happens a lot, it can be very frustrating to watch and often lead to the defensive exposure I just mentioned above. His subs often left a lot to be desired, but how much he was hamstrung by the options at his disposal, is debatable.

-His signings were definitely hit-or-miss at Leeds. Aaronson, Adams, Wober, Kristensen and probably McKennie were all signings that he pushed for. Aaronson started brightly but has faded badly as the season has worn on. Adams is up there for club POTY and has been one of the first names on the team sheet all season. Jury is still out on Kristensen, but he’s probably not good enough and McKennie has shown promise and will probably be a good signing. Wober has come in and immediately been one of their best, if not best central defender. Gnonto, Rutter, Sinisterra and Rutter all seemed like decisions that were made more by the club to bring in.

-He’s not afraid to play young players. Crysencio Summerville and Sam Greenwood have both seen decent amount of playing time, especially the former. To go along with U-23’s like Gnonto, Adams, Aaronson and Sinisterra. That should bode well for players like Alcaraz, Mara, Lavia, etc. 

Genuinely unsure how this will go for him and for Saints. The Yank Lampard and Ted Lasso shouts were usually wide of the mark as Lampard is a complete idiot with no discernible playing style and only got into the managerial positions he got into through his last name. The ‘rah-rah’ Ted Lasso stuff has a little more merit, I guess, but Lasso is also a caricature and Marsch has grinded for years in the profession to get where he is. He has had his admirers across Europe for a reason.

99% of managerial stints end on some type of sour note, but I do hope there’s some really good moments in between for him and your club. Don’t plan on posting here again, but just wanted to give some thoughts on the impending appointment. I do hope it works out in the long run, even if it means relegation this season and a stint back in the Championship to right the ship. The best of luck, except for when you play my club, as always.

Keep telling them what they want to hear, it works miracles wherever you are in the world.

Good to have you on board 'though and look forward to your further participation. 

[S-Clarke]

4 minutes ago, DT said:

I love how one of the benefits we have alighted on is that he speaks 'full English'. Either that's a lot of bacon and eggs or it's nothing to get massively excited about as an attribute, surely to God?

You were calling for Gallardo, who doesn't speak a word of English and would need a translator, so I'm pretty sure it's a big plus in comparison to that given the situation we are in.

That's the key thing people are missing - if we were at the start of the season and had finished 10th, needed a new manager, then Marsch would be down on our list and we'd be looking wider I'm sure, but needs must and his suitability in the current situation is pretty well aligned to us, probably more so than it was to Leeds weirdly.

[saintant]

Clearly one of the main problems for Jessie Marsh, or whoever we appoint, is the inability to defend our goal. Marsch will have his work cut out because he likes a high press which invariably leaves his sides very vulnerable on the counter attack. Also, we are prone to ridiculous errors that gift goals to opponents and do not have a decent 'keeper at the club. I think we'll create a lot more chances but can we keep the ball out of our net with the players at his disposal? Maybe the two full backs will have to be more selective in when and how often they raid forward, choose their moments and not be too reckless. Also, are we fit enough as a group to maintain a high press? You'd think it should be slightly easier to manage with 5 subs available. 

I'm looking forward to seeing how we go about things tactically. We need wins rather than draws so Marsch will have to factor that in. I still think we are going down but it could be an exciting ride and maybe he will pull off a miracle.

[S-Clarke]

Just now, saintant said:

Clearly one of the main problems for Jessie Marsh, or whoever we appoint, is the inability to defend our goal. Marsch will have his work cut out because he likes a high press which invariably leaves his sides very vulnerable on the counter attack. Also, we are prone to ridiculous errors that gift goals to opponents and do not have a decent 'keeper at the club. I think we'll create a lot more chances but can we keep the ball out of our net with the players at his disposal? Maybe the two full backs will have to be more selective in when and how often they raid forward, choose their moments and not be too reckless. Also, are we fit enough as a group to maintain a high press? You'd think it should be slightly easier to manage with 5 subs available. 

I'm looking forward to seeing how we go about things tactically. We need wins rather than draws so Marsch will have to factor that in. I still think we are going down but it could be an exciting ride and maybe he will pull off a miracle.

This is one of the reasons we signed more mobility in the summer, i.e Lavia and ABK. It was pretty obvious that Bednarek in a high pressing team was a disaster waiting to happen, but whilst we will concede chances playing that way having decent/quick and mobile 1-on-1 players make a huge difference.

I listened back to that video earlier and they explained it really well - we probably have better players suited to how Marsch wants to play than he had at Leeds, certainly in relation to that 1-on-1 defending element. Let's just get back to what we know, back 4 - ABK and Salisu with Lavia and JWP pivot in front.

[Master Bates]

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1734779/Southampton-next-manager-Jesse-Marsch-Leeds-Premier-League-latest

[FarehamSaintJames]

Does anyone on here not want him or don’t see him being good enough for us?

I’m just intrigued to know why. 

[Patrick Bateman]

I've warmed up to the idea having read more on him, his style and general manner.  I think he certainly has a lot more pedigree than the previous manager and definitely a style that the younger players may need right now.  Carrot rather than stick could be better in these circumstances. 

[DrSuess1979]

The more I read about him the more I feel this is the best “fit” for the squad we have.

Gut feeling with this one is miles better than with NJ 

[Greedyfly]

What's a double Guido Carillo appointment called? Guidos Carillo maybe. Dunno but he'll be it. 

 

Championship it is!

[East Kent Saint]

Difficult to say , it will become clear when we see his first team sheet and formation.

[Wade Garrett]

Getting a bit fucked off with all this high press will leave defence exposed bollocks.

I’m sure he can adapt his tactics.

[Turkish]

13 minutes ago, saintant said:

Clearly one of the main problems for Jessie Marsh, or whoever we appoint, is the inability to defend our goal. Marsch will have his work cut out because he likes a high press which invariably leaves his sides very vulnerable on the counter attack. Also, we are prone to ridiculous errors that gift goals to opponents and do not have a decent 'keeper at the club. I think we'll create a lot more chances but can we keep the ball out of our net with the players at his disposal? Maybe the two full backs will have to be more selective in when and how often they raid forward, choose their moments and not be too reckless. Also, are we fit enough as a group to maintain a high press? You'd think it should be slightly easier to manage with 5 subs available. 

I'm looking forward to seeing how we go about things tactically. We need wins rather than draws so Marsch will have to factor that in. I still think we are going down but it could be an exciting ride and maybe he will pull off a miracle.

Plus Leeds have a very good goalkeeper we’ve got a shit one

[West end Saints]

Like the vast majority on here I would fully support JM being appointed. 

Reasons being:

1) as above, seems to unite fans

2) often hard to judge managers as people have given the Strachen  example

3) I liked Ralph but felt both his, and the team's energy went - one thing we will get JM positivity and energy. 

4) no back 5

5) no learning curve for this league. 

 

Of the other options, opinions seem very split so feel, after the negativity with fans and media caused by Jones, feel anyone else (who we stand a chance of getting) would be significantly less supported by fans

 

[Max]

31 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

we've spent over 100million pounds on transfers this season !!!!!!!!

Talking about the manager appointment, not the money spent, as you well know. You cheerleaders have your moment, you seem happy to get your man, congrats. At the end of the season, when we've been beaten like a ginger stepchild, will you still be cheering him on?

(Last post of the day, so sincere apologies I won't be able to respond x)

[saintant]

There's an excellent series of videos on his time at Salzburg on Redbull.com which I've started watching. He has a young Erling Haaland in the squad. Marsch is clearly very driven and determined to be a success. He comes across very well.

[saintant]

1 minute ago, Turkish said:

Plus Leeds have a very good goalkeeper we’ve got a shit one

Agree, I did mention that as one of the problems he'll inherit 🙂

[Patrick Bateman]

1 minute ago, Wade Garrett said:

Getting a bit fucked off with all this high press will leave defence exposed bollocks.

I’m sure he can adapt his tactics.

We do have full backs better suited to that than say Leeds - in my opinion. KWP, Livramento (is he alive??) and even Perraud. 

[S-Clarke]

1 minute ago, Max said:

Talking about the manager appointment, not the money spent, as you well know. You cheerleaders have your moment, you seem happy to get your man, congrats. At the end of the season, when we've been beaten like a ginger stepchild, will you still be cheering him on?

(Last post of the day, so sincere apologies I won't be able to respond x)

If you don't want to have a reasoned debate then there's no point. I think the people who are behind him are clear on why, and the people who don't want him seem to be incredibly confused as to why they feel that way. (apart from wanting Poch or Tuchel instead)

So let's just leave it there.

[SotonianWill]

4 hours ago, Miltonaggro said:

Dental hygiene 

English as first language 

Comes from tough industrial town

Passionate

Controlled aggression 

Premier League experience 

Likeable

Jones has all of these

Edited 14 February, 2023 by SotonianWill

[S-Clarke]

1 minute ago, Patrick Bateman said:

We do have full backs better suited to that than say Leeds - in my opinion. KWP, Livramento (is he alive??) and even Perraud. 

CB's as well, better 1-on-1 CB's in terms of pace. Leeds had Cooper and Robin Koch (and Llorente before he went to Roma)

I don't think we'll see Tino until next season.

[alehouseboys]

2 minutes ago, Greedyfly said:

What's a double Guido Carillo appointment called? Guidos Carillo maybe. Dunno but he'll be it. 

 

Championship it is!

Championship is most likely whoever comes in. Nobody's relegated in Jan/Feb but we look all set, but I probably won't be laying this on Marsch'/whoever's door if/when it happens. I'm also happy to give the fella a fair go.

[saintant]

6 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

Getting a bit fucked off with all this high press will leave defence exposed bollocks.

I’m sure he can adapt his tactics.

If he can then fair play but I'm pretty sure it's easier said than done unless you have a squad of very talented players who are all great athletes. Most clubs don't.

[LegalEagle]

I'm more than happy to give him a fair crack but the first time that he picks Lyanco, Bednarek, Diallo and Elyounoussi all in the same starting XI, that will be it for me. Call for him to go at that point 😉

[Wade Garrett]

2 minutes ago, LegalEagle said:

I'm more than happy to give him a fair crack but the first time that he picks Lyanco, Bednarek, Diallo and Elyounoussi all in the same starting XI, that will be it for me. Call for him to go at that point 😉

It’s as if Jones wanted his contract paid up.

[S-Clarke]

Looks like Leeds have decided to stick with their caretaker for their 'upcoming fixtures'.

What a weird scenario. We'll probably line up at Elland road with the manager they sacked as they felt they needed better, but they will still have a caretaker in place as they haven't managed to replace their former manager who is now in our dugout. Be interesting to see who is the winner out of this chaos, potentially two losers given the league table - but we'll see.

 

Edited 14 February, 2023 by S-Clarke

[Pengi]

7 minutes ago, Max said:

Talking about the manager appointment, not the money spent, as you well know. You cheerleaders have your moment, you seem happy to get your man, congrats. At the end of the season, when we've been beaten like a ginger stepchild, will you still be cheering him on?

(Last post of the day, so sincere apologies I won't be able to respond x)

Yes - where we are in the league is not down to him. 

[Sheaf Saint]

7 minutes ago, SotonianWill said:

Jones has all of these

Are you sure about the last one? 🤔

[revolution saint]

12 minutes ago, Wade Garrett said:

Getting a bit fucked off with all this high press will leave defence exposed bollocks.

I’m sure he can adapt his tactics.

Undoubtedly will although how many times have we played a high press this season?  Hasn't really been that often and last Saturday was a bit of an exception.  On the plus side we'll probably score more and I'm hoping that plus better defenders will be enough.

[woodsaint1]

2 hours ago, vagab0nd said:

American here-

I’ll keep my Premier League allegiance private, but been a fan of Marsch and have followed him pretty closely ever since he moved to Europe, so have some thoughts.

-He was pretty much screwed from the beginning with Leeds, following Bielsa. Anyone who was appointed, barring a miracle worker, was pretty much screwed. The ground that Bielsa walks on is worshipped and there were many Leeds fans willing to get relegated with him at the helm. That kind of feverish, undying loyalty from a fanbase is nearly impossible to follow and to win the fans over after that is incredibly difficult.

-I’ve read some quotes from Leeds forum(s) on here the last day or two and I’m assuming they’re pulled off of MOT. While there are some reasonable fans, that place is littered with a lot of deluded types who think way too highly of themselves and their club’s stature in the game. That could probably be said for the vast majority of supporters’ forums to be fair, but some genuinely shocking opinions there. A good portion of MOT was fuming at Marsch for not giving Joe Gelhardt enough of a look-in at striker and for sending Charlie Cresswell on loan at the beginning of the season. Gelhardt is now on loan in the Championship and Cresswell has been very up and down for Millwall this season. Take what they say with a giant grain of salt.

-He shored Leeds up defensively, compared to Bielsa, while still maintaining a system that was more attack-oriented. When he was first hired and his sole job was to keep Leeds up, it often wasn’t pretty and it was clear he was just trying to keep the unit together and pulling in the same direction. I would expect similar at Southampton over the coming months, where some of his system is integrated but not the full setup. It will help that the majority of the Saints squad played under Hassenhutl, who comes from the RB setup and has a similar playing style.

-He was pretty badly let down by them not converting their chances and some mental mistakes at the back. The underlying numbers point to a squad that should have been 2-5 spots higher up the table when he was sacked. 7 of their 10 losses in the league this season were by one goal. Close only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades, but that’s a Leeds side that could have easily been higher up the table if a few breaks had gone their way. Whether that’s comforting or concerning for you, is obviously up for interpretation…

-I don’t think he ever really lost the dressing room at Leeds, which IMO says a lot, since results were hard to come by. It really wasn’t until the second half of the Nottingham Forest game where it started to become obvious (at least to me), that the race was up in terms of fan support and possibly belief from the team in what he was doing. The players worked hard and looked committed throughout his tenure.  

 

-As has been stated a few times now, he’s generally thought of as a genuinely good human. Obviously that only goes so far and this profession is about winning and getting results, but after enduring Nathan Jones, it will hopefully be a breath of fresh air for the players and the fans.

-He’s American, so while it’s stereotyping, he definitely has a lot of self-confidence, belief in himself and his team and a ‘never-say-die’ attitude. He’s incredibly bright and Ivy League educated and he’s quite transparent and honest when talking with the press. I know you Brits detest showing emotion and having a bit of personality 😉, so I do think that will grate at times, especially if results aren’t going well. I know it rubbed Leeds fans the wrong way quite often. So just prepare yourself.

-This will be the first time since he came to Europe that he won’t be following an incredibly successful manager. At Salzburg, it was Marco Rose who won everything there and left to become the Monchengladbach manager. He then followed one of the brightest, if not the brightest young managerial talent in the world at Leipzig with Nagelsmann. And then of course at Leeds, following a living legend who brought glory and good times to the club that supporters hadn’t seen in nearly a generation. I think it’ll do him a world of good coming in after a man who was, by most accounts, universally disliked by supporters.

-His system has flaws, like every system does. Their pressing style left them dangerously exposed on counter attacks at times, especially at fullback. In attack, things often felt compacted and congested in the middle with not enough width in the opponents’ half or final third. The quick transitions forward, when they worked, were scintillating at times but when they break down, which happens a lot, it can be very frustrating to watch and often lead to the defensive exposure I just mentioned above. His subs often left a lot to be desired, but how much he was hamstrung by the options at his disposal, is debatable.

-His signings were definitely hit-or-miss at Leeds. Aaronson, Adams, Wober, Kristensen and probably McKennie were all signings that he pushed for. Aaronson started brightly but has faded badly as the season has worn on. Adams is up there for club POTY and has been one of the first names on the team sheet all season. Jury is still out on Kristensen, but he’s probably not good enough and McKennie has shown promise and will probably be a good signing. Wober has come in and immediately been one of their best, if not best central defender. Gnonto, Rutter, Sinisterra and Rutter all seemed like decisions that were made more by the club to bring in.

-He’s not afraid to play young players. Crysencio Summerville and Sam Greenwood have both seen decent amount of playing time, especially the former. To go along with U-23’s like Gnonto, Adams, Aaronson and Sinisterra. That should bode well for players like Alcaraz, Mara, Lavia, etc. 

Genuinely unsure how this will go for him and for Saints. The Yank Lampard and Ted Lasso shouts were usually wide of the mark as Lampard is a complete idiot with no discernible playing style and only got into the managerial positions he got into through his last name. The ‘rah-rah’ Ted Lasso stuff has a little more merit, I guess, but Lasso is also a caricature and Marsch has grinded for years in the profession to get where he is. He has had his admirers across Europe for a reason.

99% of managerial stints end on some type of sour note, but I do hope there’s some really good moments in between for him and your club. Don’t plan on posting here again, but just wanted to give some thoughts on the impending appointment. I do hope it works out in the long run, even if it means relegation this season and a stint back in the Championship to right the ship. The best of luck, except for when you play my club, as always.

Where have I seen that before? 🤔😂

Great post and welcome

[SotonianWill]

11 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

Looks like Leeds have decided to stick with their caretaker for their 'upcoming fixtures'.

What a weird scenario. We'll probably line up at Elland road with the manager they sacked as they felt they needed better, but they will still have a caretaker in place as they haven't managed to replace their former manager who is now in our dugout. Be interesting to see who is the winner out of this chaos, potentially two losers given the league table - but we'll see.

 

with everyone finding it hard to find a manager, did we pull the plug on jones due to marsch (our target) being sacked? the board seemed deludedly sternly stood on jones beforehand. 

Edited 14 February, 2023 by SotonianWill

[Holmes_and_Watson]

25 minutes ago, Max said:

Talking about the manager appointment, not the money spent, as you well know. You cheerleaders have your moment, you seem happy to get your man, congrats. At the end of the season, when we've been beaten like a ginger stepchild, will you still be cheering him on?

(Last post of the day, so sincere apologies I won't be able to respond x)

Leave Strachan alone!

We might find that Marsch deploys a similar tactic to his RB and Leeds days. The squad, not quite up to that level are a little disjointed,continue to miss chances, and get undone with all the 1 against 1 defensive duties. Against opponents who are clued up to play against his system. Since we need wins, we go for it, and we may concede more as a result. Might happen.

But we would be going for it, with a clear plan. We'd not be going out with poorly devised, compromised tactics, and going out the division with a whimper. We'll take hits being more attacking, but that''s where support comes in, rather than moaning about set backs.

We could then back Jesse with a full preseason and next season to get us back. Staying up is going to be difficult enough. Marsch has done it before, but offers us something longer term to build around too, whatever the outcome.

There's no guarantees. Marsch may turn out to be a manager we wanted to see, rather than what we needed short term. But no guarantee those short term appointments would work out any better.

We'll find out in due course. Marsch has lots going for him, and you've no idea if your disaster scenario will happen. Better a rational decision, than irrationally throwing toys around while offering no alternatives.

Having watched his half time team talk, Marsch definitely knows one of the two words needed to respond to Selles or SR insisting that 5 at the back is statistically better. Another point in his favour. 🙂

Edited 14 February, 2023 by Holmes_and_Watson
autocarrot

[SaturdayGirl]

3 minutes ago, SotonianWill said:

with everyone finding it hard to find a manager, did we pull the plug on jones due to marsch (our target) being sacked? the board seemed deludedly sternly stood on jones beforehand. 

Or we hold fire and Potter maybe available next week ?

[S-Clarke]

2 minutes ago, SaturdayGirl said:

Or we hold fire and Potter maybe available next week ?

His payoff, if it happens, would be in the 10's of millions. He will happily sit on that, go travelling for 6 months and see what's avaliable in the summer. There is no scenario where we magically wait for Potter to get sacked and he's our manager the next day.

Edited 14 February, 2023 by S-Clarke

[Streaky]

Not bothered who the manager is. We were down weeks ago. SR messed up terribly appointing jones in the first place.

[CB Fry]

2 minutes ago, SaturdayGirl said:

Or we hold fire and Potter maybe available next week ?

Please can you stop going on about Potter. He can be sacked at eight o'clock tonight and he is still not going to immediately take a job at Saints. 

This is real life, not a computer game.

[Lee On Solent Saint]

16 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

Looks like Leeds have decided to stick with their caretaker for their 'upcoming fixtures'.

What a weird scenario. We'll probably line up at Elland road with the manager they sacked as they felt they needed better, but they will still have a caretaker in place as they haven't managed to replace their former manager who is now in our dugout. Be interesting to see who is the winner out of this chaos, potentially two losers given the league table - but we'll see.

 

Have a feeling this may return to haunt Leeds. They obviously decided that Marsch wasn't good enough, and yet for whatever reason their main targets seem to be turning them down. If that happened to us, can only imagine the meltdowns some posters would have.

[saintant]

7 minutes ago, SaturdayGirl said:

Or we hold fire and Potter maybe available next week ?

We're not getting Potter. If he's sacked by Chelsea he's hardly likely to swap that for a relegation battle at a club that has been completely mismanaged by the board/owners.

[Saint Keef]

1 minute ago, Wade Garrett said:

It’s as if Jones wanted his contract paid up.

I think that's quite a possibility. I think somewhere in Jones' flawed and warped mind, he realised very early on that he was never going to cut it here. He had upset too many people by then (fans, players, pundits etc etc) that he would never win them back and thought a substantial pay-off would be his best option. Some responsibility obviously lays with those who chose him, but to me, the guy was a complete fraud from day one.

As regards Marsch.  I admit I was underwhelmed when he was first mentioned, but the more I have heard about him from others who know more about him than I, I have a sneaky feeling he might just be the right fit, particularly for our "young" squad. I like his positive "can do" attitude. I was a supporter of Ralph long after many on here said he should go, but the turning point from me was when Ralph lost his positiveness. His interviews and body language on the touchline changed completely - like he was a beaten man. For me, that was time time for him to go. In Marsch, I see someone who still has that positiveness. Yes he has flaws - who hasn't - but from the list of other "realistic" managers available, I happen to think he might be the best. I actually think Leeds played some really nice football under him but concede the results in recent weeks had been poor. 

The first game is Chelsea, who are in a bit of a mess themselves. We have already beaten them this season and Marsch's Leeds have beaten them too. Then come Leeds and if ever a manager wanted to prove himself against his former club, this has to be it. If.....and it is a big if I know, we were to win those first two games, or even a draw and a win, the world will seem like a better place and the "impossible" may just become possible. So, I'm prepared to get behind him and let's face it, it has to be a  massive improvement on "Jones The Bonkers".

[Saint_Ash]

8 minutes ago, SaturdayGirl said:

Or we hold fire and Potter maybe available next week ?

If he was to be sacked it would have meant we beat them, if Jones was still here he'd be going nowhere with that under his belt, for a few weeks at least. If Selles won it then he'd want a shot. Either way, why would a Chelsea manager come to bottom of the table Saints?

[The Juice]

Maybe a sign of the times but whomever it is, will be great if they can just unite the fanbase and get some positivity flowing through the club; anything else is a huge bonus at this point. I share others concerns re appointing a recently sacked relegation rivals manager, however, once appointed (as he seemingly will be) I, for one, will be 100% behind Jesse and that's a great feeling after months of Jones and watching Ralph go off the rails. 

[Weston Super Saint]

15 minutes ago, SaturdayGirl said:

Or we hold fire and Potter maybe available next week ?

Jesus wept.

[Holmes_and_Watson]

3 minutes ago, Saint Keef said:

 The first game is Chelsea, who are in a bit of a mess themselves. We have already beaten them this season and Marsch's Leeds have beaten them too.

This is Jesse's first big test. If he were to start tomorrow, would he count the Chelsea game?

Would he prefer to start after it?

Or would he say how brave he was to take it, but subsequently disown it, when it was added to his stats?

The Nathan test. 🙂

[macca155]

I hope this comes true now. Not for any flag waving for Marsch, but I have emotionally come to terms with it now. I'll end up being disappointed if it isn't him.

We may stay up but chances are Saints will be relegated. I just get the feeling that with Marsch it won't be without a fight. In addition we'll be well set for a promotion campaign next year.

[SotonianWill]

 

[Grim Reaper]

Can we have a new manager every few weeks ! Because it is more exciting than the football 😂

[bpsaint]

2 hours ago, saintscottofthenortham said:

Marsch tried signing Che in January, so expect him to be heavily involved.

That’s what puts me off him being our new manager, he’s clearly mental.

[Badger]

11 hours ago, SotonianWill said:

don’t know why I find this so funny when he starts swearing 

 

Perhaps this was used as the original template for the 'Hitler in the bunker' skits you see.

If you take the 'Van Dyke ' and the 'elbow the fucker in the ribs' gesture he seems to make, then he's gone up in my estimation as it could be a return to the Alehouse Days. Or should that be the Alamo ?

 

[ErwinK1961]

36 minutes ago, The Juice said:

Maybe a sign of the times but whomever it is, will be great if they can just unite the fanbase and get some positivity flowing through the club; anything else is a huge bonus at this point. I share others concerns re appointing a recently sacked relegation rivals manager, however, once appointed (as he seemingly will be) I, for one, will be 100% behind Jesse and that's a great feeling after months of Jones and watching Ralph go off the rails. 

Sums it up for me. Bit meh, but probably best we can do in the circumstances - we’re down anyway realistically so a bit of positivity through the club between now and end of season will hopefully set up a promotion charge next season.