Fitzhugh Fella Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 26 minutes ago, DonnieD said: If it becomes a case of "show us your medals", Marsch could point to: Coaching: New York Red Bulls Supporters' Shield: 2015, 2018 Red Bull Salzburg, Austrian Bundesliga: 2019–20, 2020–21 Austrian Cup 2019–20, 2020–21 Individual: MLS Coach of the Year 2015 So a big cheese in a Micky Mouse environment basically while flopping in his two big appointments. He’s a poor man’s Hasenhuttl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 32 minutes ago, DonnieD said: If it becomes a case of "show us your medals", Marsch could point to: Coaching: New York Red Bulls Supporters' Shield: 2015, 2018 Red Bull Salzburg, Austrian Bundesliga: 2019–20, 2020–21 Austrian Cup 2019–20, 2020–21 Individual: MLS Coach of the Year 2015 We have literally just had the fittest human on the planet who, incidentally, was the BEST manager in all of Europe. I'm happy to take someone with no accolades at this point. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 Willing to throw my hat in the ring, fifteen successful years playing Football Manager and FIFA, more often than not scouting and buying the same players Saints have but years earlier. Will help your buy-to-sell-high model. Bednarek and Lyanco will be nowhere near the starting eleven, and I will have a clause in my contract that if we ever play five at the back it is a sackable offence. 👍🏻 Come on Rasmus! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis17 Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 Juric sounds fun… 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExSholingSaint Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 Baring a miracle, we are almost certain to be relegated. What we need now is a manager who is going to be able to give us the best chance of coming straight back up from the Championship & one who is used to working with young talent & playing the type of football that has given us most success i:e 433 or 4231 type of formation. For what it is worth my options would be: Postalogu (would love it but not going to happen) Marsch Selles (given the job full time) Gallardo (probably no chance) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 13 hours ago, Fitzhugh Fella said: Wasn’t a rumour. The Board said player morale was “rock bottom” under Ralph at Tuesday’s forum. The Ralph cultists have chosen to ignore this. Im not ignoring anything, whatever you thought about Ralph we can’t have a manager that lost the dressing room 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 19 minutes ago, beavis17 said: Juric sounds fun… Tell Juric about the Joiners, 1865 and the Engine Rooms before talking about the team... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Kucho Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 (edited) Wonder what Dragan has to say to Rasmus this morning ( if they have a meeting). Payed Luton millions so we could get Jones, hands him a 3,5 year contract, presumably on PL wages and sacks him after 3 months. That makes it around 39 months left on his contract. Besides that he’s also still paying Ralph. Whoever comes in next, Rasmus is under huge pressure to get this one right. That makes me think he might play it safe and go for a manager with experience in the PL with a decent track record. Edited 13 February, 2023 by Dr. Kucho 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 11 hours ago, S-Clarke said: Marsch will irritate many, I'm sure, but compared to Jones he's light and day. He comes from the RB way of doing things, initially manager at NY Red Bulls, won honours there, got his move to another RB group club in Salzburg, and also won honours there. He then got the 'big job' at Lipzig, but it didn't go to plan there and by all accounts their fans felt the club stitched him up and they'd have liked to have seen him given longer. Throughout all of those clubs he has followed his principles by playing a very similar 4-2-2-2 /4-3-2-1, gengenpress style. In many ways a full disciple of the Ralph/RB approach - for me that's a pretty critical factor to consider. When you hire a manager mid season, outside of a transfer window, you need to be sure they are a fit for the players in the squad. As much as the likes of Nuno and Lage are legitimate options, you could argue that they've got their success from a very disciplined and patient tactical approach - I'd say those approaches are at odds with the tools we have in this squad. That's why Marsch makes some sense, there is a squad of players in the building vested in the way he wants to play and they bought into it under a previous manager. In the position we are in beggars can't be choosers, and this is a reason why I felt we may hold fire and see what is available in the summer - but if Marsch is up for a short-term and long-term view, and is willing to be part of a strategic rebuild in the Championship, then I think there could be many worse choices. I'm not totally against this one if it happens. I can actually see the logic behind it, which I couldn't see when Jones was appointed. Well said 👏🏻 and echos my thoughts completely 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 4 minutes ago, Nolan said: Tell Juric about the Joiners, 1865 and the Engine Rooms before talking about the team... I'm going to tweet him about the time Nirvana played the joiners just to give that place some context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 1 minute ago, Turkish said: I'm going to tweet him about the time Nirvana played the joiners just to give that place some context. And let him know this isn't a match day.... Left To Die | The 1865 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvictaSaint Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dr. Kucho said: Wonder what Dragan has to say to Rasmus this morning ( if they have a meeting). Payed Luton millions so we could get Jones, hands him a 3,5 year contract, presumably on PL wages and sacks him after 3 months. That makes it around 39 months left on his contract. Besides that he’s also still paying Ralph. Whoever comes in next, Rasmus is under huge pressure to get this one right. That makes me think he might play it safe and go for a manager with experience in the PL with a descent track record. Not sure that’s quite what we need right now….😉😉 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 I think Rasmus is under pressure to get this right. I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a better manager on the side in talks as opposed to the generic names linked immediately like Gerrard, Lampard etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 Rasmus seeing a good manager with bad stats 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint NL Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 6 hours ago, Viking Saint said: Decent pedigree and available, and seems to have been completely forgotten. Get him in The days of the bald headed manager (like Pep) are numbered. Managers with an (unnatural) head of hair, like Arteta, are in. So I'm calling this one a non starter. Who was that Senegal manager at the world cup? He had great hair, I think he could do a job here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disconnect Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 59 minutes ago, beavis17 said: Juric sounds fun… About time a manager publicly called out footballers awful music taste! Gets my vote for that alone! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 1 hour ago, Fitzhugh Fella said: So a big cheese in a Micky Mouse environment basically while flopping in his two big appointments. He’s a poor man’s Hasenhuttl I feel like I'm repeating myself but, out of interest, who would you appoint? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Nimbus Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 (edited) After some time to digest the Marsch news, I am more OK with it then I was when it first came to light. I guess my only thought on it, is his style of play suited to using a CF like Onuachu? His strengths do not seem alligned with the "high press" etc. Maybe we will get players around him that can do it an build from there. I just hope we can all now focus on the rest of the season, see what happens and have a better run of things next season, regardless of the division we start in. Edited 13 February, 2023 by Mr Nimbus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jemanson Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 4 minutes ago, Saint NL said: The days of the bald headed manager (like Pep) are numbered. Managers with an (unnatural) head of hair, like Arteta, are in. So I'm calling this one a non starter. Who was that Senegal manager at the world cup? He had great hair, I think he could do a job here. Have you seen the stats?:) 2 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whelk Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 7 minutes ago, jemanson said: Have you seen the stats?:) Couldn’t see Conte but which Conte woudl they put in? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint NL Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 9 minutes ago, jemanson said: Have you seen the stats?:) I'd love to see an updated chart, but if Rasmus isn't using this as a metric then he's failing us. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SotonianWill Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 so we either get torino 5 at the back guy but a better manager overall, or marsch 4 at the back but no real tactical brain guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itchen Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 I am realistic enough to know that we are likely to be relegated. But I haven't accepted that this is inevitable. We still have 40% of the season to play and the gap between us and safety is not huge as there are some other very poor teams near the bottom. This talk of appointing a manager who can get us promoted again seems premature. Certainly that is a consideration but it would surely be better to appoint someone with a chance of keeping us up in the first place. This would suggest someone, like Marsh, who has experience of doing that. Yes, he was sacked at Leeds but most managerial appointments end in the sack unless the manager retires from the game. I'm not necessarily arguing for Marsh. I don't have the knowledge and don't know who the club is considering. I'm just being realistic in observing that it is likely whomever we appoint will have failed somewhere else. Personally, if it wasn't so urgent, I'd like to see us hang on for whenever Potter is sacked by Chelsea. HCDAJFU. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 12 minutes ago, SotonianWill said: so we either get torino 5 at the back guy but a better manager overall, or marsch 4 at the back but no real tactical brain guy. We have 2 croatians already so thats helpful and we have no yanks which is even more helpful so Juric gets my vote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Fitzhugh Fella said: So a big cheese in a Micky Mouse environment basically while flopping in his two big appointments. He’s a poor man’s Hasenhuttl Edited 13 February, 2023 by once_bitterne 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 We need someone who can get results from game 1 Stats currently have us going down with 30pts https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/soccer-predictions/premier-league/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 The more I think about Marsch joining the less I’m against it. He had Leeds playing some lovely stuff,he was unfortunate to lose Bamford to injury. be improved Raphina no end.it was obvious to all,like us, he had no potent,consistent striker. he was on a hiding to nothing with Leeds fans as they seemed to be besotted with Bielsa.Despite you could see them faltering we wasted a prime opportunity after sacking Ralph,who had to go. he knows the Premier League,installing some bloke because he’s done well in the Italian or Argentinian league is no less a gamble. I would Rather have Marsch in the Championship at the helm also. which is looking more likely as each game passes. Lampard,Gerrard and all the circus they bring would be awful. we have been the creators of our own downfall,and that starts from the top…well Ankerson to be precise. It will take a miracle to turn us around from relegation certainties whoever comes in. the players have to buy into whoever it is installed. for me Marsch is the best of a bad lot available to a club in our dire situation. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 I don’t think Gerrard would be a great appointment, but at least he wouldn’t play Janny fucking B. 4 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnnyboy Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 Just spoke to Leeds fan up here , he said he liked the way set up them and the only team they didn’t dominate was Manchester City, was sad to see him go and added it’s nots marschs fault they couldn’t score from six yards out ! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 55 minutes ago, revolution saint said: I feel like I'm repeating myself but, out of interest, who would you appoint? Bielsa. There’s a chance he’d come ( he spoke to Everton). He’s available. Great pedigree. Knows the Championship and the PL. Wouldn’t get poached (too old). Pep rates him the best in the world for improving players. He turned Leeds into an entertaining exciting team (no easy task). Would be his own man so wouldn’t take all that analytical shit. No ego. Wouldn’t embarrass us at pressers. And finally because he looks like Jack Duckworth so deffo not a hipster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwbu Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 1 minute ago, Fitzhugh Fella said: Bielsa. There’s a chance he’d come ( he spoke to Everton). He’s available. Great pedigree. Knows the Championship and the PL. Wouldn’t get poached (too old). Pep rates him the best in the world for improving players. He turned Leeds into an entertaining exciting team (no easy task). Would be his own man so wouldn’t take all that analytical shit. No ego. Wouldn’t embarrass us at pressers. And finally because he looks like Jack Duckworth so deffo not a hipster. Apart from the fact that analytics is an integral element of his approach to football, to such an extent he’s been caught sending coaches to spy on opposition training… 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Fitzhugh Fella said: Bielsa. There’s a chance he’d come ( he spoke to Everton). He’s available. Great pedigree. Knows the Championship and the PL. Wouldn’t get poached (too old). Pep rates him the best in the world for improving players. He turned Leeds into an entertaining exciting team (no easy task). Would be his own man so wouldn’t take all that analytical shit. No ego. Wouldn’t embarrass us at pressers. And finally because he looks like Jack Duckworth so deffo not a hipster. Cheers. Don't think that's realistic TBH. He wanted to manage the U23s at Everton till the summer so probably unlikely he'd come to us. Edited 13 February, 2023 by revolution saint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Timmier Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 34 minutes ago, itchen said: I am realistic enough to know that we are likely to be relegated. But I haven't accepted that this is inevitable. We still have 40% of the season to play and the gap between us and safety is not huge as there are some other very poor teams near the bottom. For me it's more that we still require 60% of the likely points required to stay up (based on a total of 36). 60% of the points in 40% of the season - after the run we've been on and the form we're in - just seems highly unlikely whichever manager we bring in. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miserableoldgit Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 8 minutes ago, johnnyboy said: Just spoke to Leeds fan up here , he said he liked the way set up them and the only team they didn’t dominate was Manchester City, was sad to see him go and added it’s nots marschs fault they couldn’t score from six yards out ! The perfect fit!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tajjuk Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 (edited) 14 minutes ago, johnnyboy said: Just spoke to Leeds fan up here , he said he liked the way set up them and the only team they didn’t dominate was Manchester City, was sad to see him go and added it’s nots marschs fault they couldn’t score from six yards out ! Stats seem to back up that assessment, Leeds on expected points should be 11th and should have been 12th last year. Edited 13 February, 2023 by tajjuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 1 hour ago, jemanson said: Have you seen the stats?:) Rightly fucking so Up the baldness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 1 hour ago, FarehamSaintJames said: I think Rasmus is under pressure to get this right. I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a better manager on the side in talks as opposed to the generic names linked immediately like Gerrard, Lampard etc. Christ i hope so. (no Jones religious references intended) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 2 hours ago, beavis17 said: Juric sounds fun… Yep, sounds fun - unfortunately 90% of our crowd are more your Vera Lynn/Glen Miller types so…..unless he could bring around 30,000 of his buddies with him 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 (edited) Talkshite about to talk to crook about our manager search now Edit - nothing new we are all better informed here Edited 13 February, 2023 by Convict Colony 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 19 minutes ago, Fitzhugh Fella said: Bielsa. There’s a chance he’d come ( he spoke to Everton). He’s available. Great pedigree. Knows the Championship and the PL. Wouldn’t get poached (too old). Pep rates him the best in the world for improving players. He turned Leeds into an entertaining exciting team (no easy task). Would be his own man so wouldn’t take all that analytical shit. No ego. Wouldn’t embarrass us at pressers. And finally because he looks like Jack Duckworth so deffo not a hipster. You’re absolutely spot on except for the fact that analytics and metrics is a HUGE approach to how Bielsa sets up and coaches and he has always been a huge advocate for analytics in football and coaching in particular, he’s also pretty egotistical, you only have to remember the whole spygate saga So obviously apart from being completely wrong in your attempt to side swipe SR its a cracking post 👍🏻 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexter1987 Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 Bruno Lage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 Just now, Flexter1987 said: Bruno Lage ITK or Portuguese tourrettes ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Timmier Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 5 minutes ago, Flexter1987 said: Bruno Lage Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 12 minutes ago, Flexter1987 said: Bruno Lage Same source as before..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Appy Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 14 minutes ago, Flexter1987 said: Bruno Lage Bloody hope not 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 Links to Juric over last 24 encouraging as vastly superior coach to Marsch IMHO. Hope they are also talking to the Iberian connection, Nuno and Bruno who are my one and two choices. Nuno masterstroke as a fit, Bruno a close second (more likely). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ButtikonSaint Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 I'll only accept the appointment of Zinedine Zidane, Joachim Low or Luis Enrique.... Anyone else... I'm throwing a tantrum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Scott Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 8 minutes ago, trousers said: Same source as before..? To be fair, we did activate his release clause he just chose Marseille over us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Le Timmier Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 1 minute ago, Saint Scott said: To be fair, we did activate his release clause he just chose Marseille over us Braga didn't buy Fran Navarro either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 6 minutes ago, ButtikonSaint said: I'll only accept the appointment of Zinedine Zidane, Joachim Low or Luis Enrique.... Anyone else... I'm throwing a tantrum. Why are you setting your sights so low, loser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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