Midfield_General Posted 12 February, 2023 Share Posted 12 February, 2023 (edited) Right. Blank sheet of paper and let's start again. 16 matches to play and we probably need something like 21-22 points. Take Bazunu out of the firing line, go 4 at the back, compact three in the middle to try and protect the defence a bit more and get some attackers with goals in them to play off Onuachu. Caballero KWP (Bree if KWP out) Caleta-Car Salisu Perraud JWP Lavia Alcaraz Sulemana Onuachu Orsic Subs: Bazunu, ABK, Maitland-Niles, S. Armstrong, Edozie, Adams, A. Armstrong, Mara, and Bree if KWP fit (Djenepo if he's not). Dropped from the squad without trace, never to darken the shirt again: Bednarek, Lyanco, Elyonoussi, Diallo, Walcott, Aribo. Edited 12 February, 2023 by Midfield_General 22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 12 February, 2023 Share Posted 12 February, 2023 1 minute ago, Midfield_General said: Right. Blank sheet of paper and let's start again. 16 matches to play and we probably need something like 21-22 points. Take Bazunu out of the firing line, go 4 at the back, compact three in the middle to try and protect the defence a bit more get and some attackers with goals in them to play off Onuachu. Cabellero KWP (Bree if KWP out) Caleta-Carr Salisu Perraud JWP Lavia Alcaraz Sulemana Onuachu Orsic Subs: Bazunu, ABK, Maitland-Niles, S. Armstrong, Edozie, Adams, A. Armstrong, Mara, and Bree if KWP fit (Djenepo if he's not). Dropped from the squad without trace, never to darken the shirt again: Bednarek, Lyanco, Elyonoussi, Diallo, Walcott, Aribo. The front three have very limited experience of this league and have only been here a couple of weeks. But I’m not sure who would be a better choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 12 February, 2023 Share Posted 12 February, 2023 Chelsea's attack is electric, so I don't see a scenario where they don't score against our lot. I think we could worry them in defence though, stick Sulemana on Cucarella's side - he's had the worst start to Chelsea than you can imagine. Ounachu will need to be a lot cleverer though up against Thiago Silva, he's going to need a lot more to his game against experienced CB's like him. I'm not expecting anything, so anything we do get will be an extra bonus. It does feel like we're going into this game with a bit of fresh air though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 12 February, 2023 Share Posted 12 February, 2023 If Sulemana plays like he did yesterday then he can hurt them. Sadly we have to choose two centre backs from a dismal list. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archers Road Stand Posted 12 February, 2023 Share Posted 12 February, 2023 We'll get thrashed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarisbury Saint Posted 12 February, 2023 Share Posted 12 February, 2023 5 hours ago, Archers Road Stand said: We'll get thrashed. You do know Jones has gone ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted 12 February, 2023 Share Posted 12 February, 2023 (edited) Guaranteed 3 points for Chelsea... Or am I being overly pessimistic? Edited 12 February, 2023 by Saint86 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 12 February, 2023 Share Posted 12 February, 2023 Caballero/Mccarthy KWP DCC ABK Salisu Alacraz Lavia JWP Sulemana Adams Orsic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted 12 February, 2023 Share Posted 12 February, 2023 Imagine we will go to a 4-3-3/4-2-3-1 with Bednarek dropped. Providing Selles takes the game I guess it'll be something like Bazunu; KWP, DCC, Salisu, Perraud; Lavia, JWP, Alcaraz; Sulemena, Orsic, Adams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osvaldorama Posted 12 February, 2023 Share Posted 12 February, 2023 Hopefully we finally get a new manager bounce. Chelsea haven’t been great for a while, so in theory we could get something. Although I wouldn’t bet on it. Chelsea 3-0 or 4-0 is more likely unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted 12 February, 2023 Share Posted 12 February, 2023 8 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said: Hopefully we finally get a new manager bounce. Chelsea haven’t been great for a while, so in theory we could get something. Although I wouldn’t bet on it. Chelsea 3-0 or 4-0 is more likely unfortunately. Chelsea have scored 4 goals in their last 8, so i'd be gutted if we let them score 3/4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 12 February, 2023 Share Posted 12 February, 2023 Free hit this one IMO… Bazunu; KWP (Bree) DCC Salisu Perraud; JWP Lavia Alcaraz; Sulemena Onuacho Elyounoussi Elyohnoussi to play the “defensive winger” role in this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca155 Posted 12 February, 2023 Share Posted 12 February, 2023 It's a case of first do no harm in the team selected. Above all else maintain discipline and don't panic. Caballero KWP DCC Salisu Perraud Orsic Lavia JWP Alcaraz Sulemana Adams Stay aggressive but maintain discipline, press off the ball, pass fast and accurate, encourage movement. Pull Chelsea around as much as possible. S Armstrong Edozie, and Onuachu at the ready to keep Chelsea thinking. I'd also protect Lavia. Sub with Diallo after 65 mins.] I'd also have Ballard on the bench. Send a positive message. He can have Bendareks place. Oh and levels of shithousery at an all time high. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maury Dyer Posted 12 February, 2023 Share Posted 12 February, 2023 And find a hitman to fix that c!!t Bednarek.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 12 February, 2023 Share Posted 12 February, 2023 Why the hell is anyone wanting our biggest waster of chances, Adams anywhere near the team. I knew Jones didn't have a clue when he brought Adams on yesterday to try and get an equaliser. He is bloody hopeless as a striker. We've just paid £20ish m for a goalscorer so play him. As for Orsic he tore Chelsea apart not so long ago. Personally I'd go Bazunu, KWP ABK DCC Salisu, JWP Lavia Alcazar, Sulemana Onuachu Orsic. Play the full backs as out and out defenders. No more Kamikaze fullbacks leaving acres of space behind them to be exploited. Keep a solid five defenders including Lavia holding in front of the centre backs. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LaptopSaint Posted 12 February, 2023 Share Posted 12 February, 2023 I like the team in the first post but would be tempted to try Edozie or Mara over Orsic unless the only reason he hasn’t been playing is that he fell out with Jones. He’s done nothing when he has appeared. Ruben Selles Red Army 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 12 February, 2023 Share Posted 12 February, 2023 Chelsea play in the CL on Wednesday, so hopefully that will take something out of them for our less important match a few days later. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca155 Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 4 hours ago, derry said: Why the hell is anyone wanting our biggest waster of chances, Adams anywhere near the team. I knew Jones didn't have a clue when he brought Adams on yesterday to try and get an equaliser. He is bloody hopeless as a striker. We've just paid £20ish m for a goalscorer so play him. As for Orsic he tore Chelsea apart not so long ago. Personally I'd go Bazunu, KWP ABK DCC Salisu, JWP Lavia Alcazar, Sulemana Onuachu Orsic. Play the full backs as out and out defenders. No more Kamikaze fullbacks leaving acres of space behind them to be exploited. Keep a solid five defenders including Lavia holding in front of the centre backs. My reason is that first I don't consider him useless, and his link up/holding/pressing is pretty good. I see him as a creator not scorer. I'm pretty sure Sulemana will score soon. Onuachu is still acclimatising, I'd bring him on early second half to cause havoc. My team selection was all about control and discipline. Something that has been missing for a few years! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homesicksaint Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 13 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said: The front three have very limited experience of this league and have only been here a couple of weeks. But I’m not sure who would be a better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
homesicksaint Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 I really like this selection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKsaint Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 Caballero KWP ABK Salisu Perraud Diallo Lavia Sulemana JWP Orsic Onuachu Defend deeply and use counter-attack. The back 4 and 2 DM are the same as that we won 2-1 in last Aug. We have the fastest players to run down the two flanks and feed the tallest striker in the primer league. Use all our strengths. Most important, Caballero in goal to get some mercy. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 Caballero KWP (or Bree) DCC. Salisu. Perraud Lavia Sulemana. JWP. Stu A Tall Pall. Arma. Subs: Baz, Che, Orsic, Edozie, Mara, ABK, Lyanco, KWP/Bree, Djenepo, Ely Attack is best form of defence against Chelsea right now and fuck it, what have we got to lose - don’t score, don’t win games? We need masses of pace and I’ve not seen that from Orsic yet so he’s benched. Edozie on for Stu at about 60mins to run at tired legs. I’ve noticed Tall Paul (like Crouchy) is actually better with his feet than his head, so would tell them to only hoof it when clearing defensive lines…i.e. don’t risk tip-tap passing it out at the back unless it’s clear Chelsea are not pressing. I hope Selles doesn’t try anything too radical otherwise it’ll be too much for the team and it’ll be another shitshow. Something tells me though that we’ll see 5 at the back again with Bednarek in place…reckon that’s his thing. A win would be a huge moral booster. It might also see Selles stay in post until end of season and frankly I wouldn’t mind that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 10 minutes ago, Saint Fan CaM said: Caballero KWP (or Bree) DCC. Salisu. Perraud Lavia Sulemana. JWP. Stu A Tall Pall. Arma. Subs: Baz, Che, Orsic, Edozie, Mara, ABK, Lyanco, KWP/Bree, Djenepo, Ely Attack is best form of defence against Chelsea right now and fuck it, what have we got to lose - don’t score, don’t win games? We need masses of pace and I’ve not seen that from Orsic yet so he’s benched. Edozie on for Stu at about 60mins to run at tired legs. I’ve noticed Tall Paul (like Crouchy) is actually better with his feet than his head, so would tell them to only hoof it when clearing defensive lines…i.e. don’t risk tip-tap passing it out at the back unless it’s clear Chelsea are not pressing. I hope Selles doesn’t try anything too radical otherwise it’ll be too much for the team and it’ll be another shitshow. Something tells me though that we’ll see 5 at the back again with Bednarek in place…reckon that’s his thing. A win would be a huge moral booster. It might also see Selles stay in post until end of season and frankly I wouldn’t mind that. Have you just completely forgotten about Alcaraz or do you just not like him? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 6 minutes ago, Sheaf Saint said: Have you just completely forgotten about Alcaraz or do you just not like him? Good point well made! Trouble is I’m not sure where he’d best fit in, although I might be tempted to play him instead of JWP…I know, controversial. Perhaps start him instead of Stu A or push Sully up front and have Alcatraz on the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 14 hours ago, Saint Garrett said: Free hit this one IMO… Bazunu; KWP (Bree) DCC Salisu Perraud; JWP Lavia Alcaraz; Sulemena Onuacho Elyounoussi Elyohnoussi to play the “defensive winger” role in this one. Mostly I think you’re a decent poster … and then you go and select Ely. ??? He shouldn’t be anywhere near a premier league team. Otherwise I mostly agree with the team. I might move Salisu to left back and play ABK. I don’t rate him as a left back, but I don’t rate Perraud defensively either. FWIW I’d pick any of Armstrong, Armstrong, Orsic, Djenepo, Edozie, KWP, Walcott, Diallo or Perraud ahead of Ely. Probably even Lyanco 😂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheaf Saint Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 Well we've already beaten them once this season, and they're in worse form now than they were then, soooo...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 From my seat I thought in the first half on Saturday - we actually had, for once, some presence in midfield with Lavia, Charly, Sulemena, with JWP tidying up. Someone was always showing for the ball receiving it, keeping it and recovering it when lost. (where it vanished to second half - goodness knows) That quartet needs polishing into a unit, as they are all able footballers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 2 hours ago, Chewy said: Mostly I think you’re a decent poster … and then you go and select Ely. ??? He shouldn’t be anywhere near a premier league team. Otherwise I mostly agree with the team. I might move Salisu to left back and play ABK. I don’t rate him as a left back, but I don’t rate Perraud defensively either. FWIW I’d pick any of Armstrong, Armstrong, Orsic, Djenepo, Edozie, KWP, Walcott, Diallo or Perraud ahead of Ely. Probably even Lyanco 😂 Tbf, I'm only picking Elyounoussi because it's Chelsea away and he's probably the best defensively out of all our wide players. Tbh, I don't care massively 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsFan86 Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 Bazunu; KWP, DCC, Salisu, Perraud; Lavia, JWP; Stuey, Alcaraz, Sulemana; Onuachu. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mallagroth Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 10 hours ago, SaintsFan86 said: Bazunu; KWP, DCC, Salisu, Perraud; Lavia, JWP; Stuey, Alcaraz, Sulemana; Onuachu. Like this a lot. Choice between stuey/orsic/edozie on that wing for flavour. If it’s going to be Marsch soccer I think I’d start with Edozie for the press. Big Paul the target outlet when they try to press us back. Sulemana plays trigger. Mara on later when big Paul tires so we have a pacy outlet to run the channel. Easily beat Chelsky 3-1 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewYorkSaint Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 Cometh the hour, cometh the man... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 13 February, 2023 Share Posted 13 February, 2023 Just now, NewYorkSaint said: Cometh the hour, cometh the man... JWP has had a hair cut. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattspurling18 Posted 14 February, 2023 Share Posted 14 February, 2023 Willy/McCarthy KWP ABK/Sali DCC Perraud Lavia JWP Alcaraz Sulemana Onuachu Orsic Chelsea 1-3 Saints Big Paul, Alcaraz and a JWP freekick 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Keef Posted 14 February, 2023 Share Posted 14 February, 2023 It doesn't matter if we have a manager in by then or not. Just having Jones leave the club is the "bounce" we needed. It's like a manager's bounce in reverse. We get the bounce when he leaves. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 14 February, 2023 Share Posted 14 February, 2023 (edited) Sulemana is going to be skinning people like he's the predator. Easy 2-0 win for us Edited 14 February, 2023 by Convict Colony 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 14 February, 2023 Share Posted 14 February, 2023 I believe Jesse M beat them recently 3-0? Must be an advantage having that knowledge in the bank come Saturday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 14 February, 2023 Share Posted 14 February, 2023 1 hour ago, Saint Fan CaM said: I believe Jesse M beat them recently 3-0? Must be an advantage having that knowledge in the bank come Saturday? He did. Took Leeds to a 3-0 over Chelsea. And after that we have Leeds. Another game he will be especially motivated for. Saints Marsch On. (c) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Bates Statue Posted 14 February, 2023 Share Posted 14 February, 2023 3 hours ago, Saint Fan CaM said: I believe Jesse M beat them recently 3-0? Must be an advantage having that knowledge in the bank come Saturday? Double over Chelsea incoming 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southner Posted 14 February, 2023 Share Posted 14 February, 2023 (edited) Chelsea's form gives me a little bit of hope. Plus they've got Dortmund tomorrow, so might be tired and sleepy on Saturday. Edited 14 February, 2023 by Southner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted 14 February, 2023 Share Posted 14 February, 2023 they will fucking smash us .........................................6-0 easy. But i could be wrong🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint Posted 14 February, 2023 Share Posted 14 February, 2023 1 hour ago, Southner said: Chelsea's form gives me a little bit of hope. Plus they've got Dortmund tomorrow, so might be tired and sleepy on Saturday. That form practically matches ours. And with our expected 'manager leaving' bounce, I'm looking forward to this game more and more. Should be a good positive atmosphere because Chelsea always give us a fair allocation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southner Posted 14 February, 2023 Share Posted 14 February, 2023 32 minutes ago, OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint said: That form practically matches ours. And with our expected 'manager leaving' bounce, I'm looking forward to this game more and more. Should be a good positive atmosphere because Chelsea always give us a fair allocation. I'm quietly confident that we'll get something out of this. Don't tell anyone though. I'll deny it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 Any spare tickets? Can collect in Southampton this week or meet in London on Saturday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Saint Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 (edited) On 12/02/2023 at 11:22, Midfield_General said: Right. Blank sheet of paper and let's start again. 16 matches to play and we probably need something like 21-22 points. Take Bazunu out of the firing line, go 4 at the back, compact three in the middle to try and protect the defence a bit more and get some attackers with goals in them to play off Onuachu. Caballero KWP (Bree if KWP out) Caleta-Car Salisu Perraud JWP Lavia Alcaraz Sulemana Onuachu Orsic Subs: Bazunu, ABK, Maitland-Niles, S. Armstrong, Edozie, Adams, A. Armstrong, Mara, and Bree if KWP fit (Djenepo if he's not). Dropped from the squad without trace, never to darken the shirt again: Bednarek, Lyanco, Elyonoussi, Diallo, Walcott, Aribo. Like this though somewhat inexperienced in the front 3. Agree its a free hit but don't want the new players confidence to get destroyed this early, plenty of time for that later! I'd keep Lyanco (for when we need someone to do some kicking and winding up of opponents), Diallo (to replace a tiring CM with 10 to go) and Aribo (there is something in there, hoping the new manager can find it) but the rest can disappear on a free transfer somewhere, anywhere in fact. Edited 15 February, 2023 by Viking Saint 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macca155 Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 17 hours ago, OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint said: 'manager leaving' bounce 🤣🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 Will be interesting to see who Selles picks and how he sets the team up. Hopefully no Janny B! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pamplemousse Posted 15 February, 2023 Share Posted 15 February, 2023 They lost tonight, Dortmund hit them on the counter attack. Great goal, could easily see Sulemana go on a run like that and score... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKsaint Posted 16 February, 2023 Share Posted 16 February, 2023 2 hours ago, Pamplemousse said: They lost tonight, Dortmund hit them on the counter attack. Great goal, could easily see Sulemana go on a run like that and score... Agree. At least, we will not concede easy goals as usual Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarisbury Saint Posted 16 February, 2023 Share Posted 16 February, 2023 On 13/02/2023 at 05:13, HKsaint said: Caballero KWP ABK Salisu Perraud Diallo Lavia Sulemana JWP Orsic Onuachu Defend deeply and use counter-attack. The back 4 and 2 DM are the same as that we won 2-1 in last Aug. We have the fastest players to run down the two flanks and feed the tallest striker in the primer league. Use all our strengths. Most important, Caballero in goal to get some mercy. Alcatraz instead of Diallo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted 16 February, 2023 Share Posted 16 February, 2023 5 hours ago, HKsaint said: Agree. At least, we will not concede easy goals as usual Team struggling to score goals comes up against Southampton. We all know what happens next.. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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