The Nathan Jones Appreciation Thread

[southamptonfc]

  On 12/02/2023 at 13:44, S-Clarke said:

JWP needs to answer a lot of questions IMO. He is one of the only consistent faces in the group which has lost two games 9-0, collapsed in many other games and has captained the team to have the worst season in our history.

I'm not discounting his ability, as his free kicks and technical ability on the ball is top draw - but as an on field leader I think he's been a disgrace, he's led us through a period where we simply have no backbone. I can't imagine captains of the past letting the situation get like this (Fonte/Hammond/VVD etc). He is out of his depth as a captain of this group in my opinion.

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I agree, he is a terrible captain. I actually cannot remember when I saw him doing anything that looked like leadership. But that tells me that nobody else wants the job and I don't hold it against him at all.

If there was anybody willing to step up, he should give up the armband immediately. We've badly missed one or more leaders on the pitch for several seasons.

[HKsaint]

Congratulation NJ, you will be so famous as Ali Dia in the Southampton history. 

[Saint_clark]

I hope he takes some time to reflect, become a calmer, more rounded person and sort his head out. It must be depressing to be Nathan Jones right now sat there staring at the wall with your missus trying to act as if you haven't utterly failed. 

[Bakovnetski]

  On 14/02/2023 at 06:11, Saint_clark said:

I hope he takes some time to reflect, become a calmer, more rounded person and sort his head out. It must be depressing to be Nathan Jones right now sat there staring at the wall with your missus trying to act as if you haven't utterly failed. 

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Surely he's taken his photos home and hung them there for the said staring and reflection?

[S-Clarke]

  On 14/02/2023 at 06:11, Saint_clark said:

I hope he takes some time to reflect, become a calmer, more rounded person and sort his head out. It must be depressing to be Nathan Jones right now sat there staring at the wall with your missus trying to act as if you haven't utterly failed. 

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I'm sure a quick log on to his bank account will cheer him up no-end.

[Mr Nimbus]

I wish him well and hope he learns from the whole episode. I think he needs some support with what appears to be some crippling anxiety.

I think if he could get over the imposter syndrome that would really help too.

Wrong person for us but should never have been in the job in the first place. 

[31cc]

David Squires' take on NJ (and Pep) today 🙂

David Squires on … Nathan Jones and Pep Guardiola, football men of principle | Football | The Guardian

[Winnersaint]

I don’t wish ill on anyone and hope he comes through this and picks up his career. When appointed I was on-side even though I felt it was a horror appointment. The scary thing is he seemed to learn absolutely nothing from his experience at Stoke but in that case and in this he was a fish out of water and perhaps should have had the courage of his summer convictions and realised he still wasn’t ready for Premier League management and turned the job down despite the SR overtures. They are seriously culpable in this having massaged Mad Nate’s ego to the point where he sadly came over in the Prem spotlight as being unhinged.

 

 

 

 

 

[Wade Garrett]

I wish him well for the future.  Maybe he won’t be such a useless cunt in his next job.

[eurosaint]

  On 13/02/2023 at 16:52, SotonianWill said:

Sadly the suspected Jones shared password family account hasn’t been active on SWF since he was sacked so won’t read our messages

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Whilst I’m extremely happy to see the back of him I don’t doubt that he’ll get another job in the lower leagues and his tenure at Saints has no doubt set him up for life financially!

My biggest issue with him is his ego and with that in mind I don’t particularly wish him well although I can’t say that I wish him badly either !

If I never hear of him or see him again I won’t be in any way unhappy !!

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[Dellman]

I hope he goes to Pompey

[Turkish]

  On 13/02/2023 at 06:32, Saint Billy said:

It only gets worse for poor nat:

Deuteronomy 23:2

"No one whose testicles have been crushed or whose penis has been cut off may be admitted into the community of the LORD."

 

 

 

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Bad news for those transitioning 😞 

[Turkish]

  On 14/02/2023 at 06:11, Saint_clark said:

I hope he takes some time to reflect, become a calmer, more rounded person and sort his head out. It must be depressing to be Nathan Jones right now sat there staring at the wall with your missus trying to act as if you haven't utterly failed. 

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Probably telling her how lucky he is, she could be a welsh girl living in a mining village married to a PE teacher.

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[Saint Fan CaM]

I don’t doubt that his huge sense of self-worth will help him through, but if not I hope his mental health doesn’t suffer…nobody should wish that on anyone else. The pay-out compensation should help soften the blow a bit too, however once he starts the search for something new the reality of having to fish in a lower grade pond will be hard. I primarily blame SR for appointing him in the first place - a huge mistake - so don’t hold any malice towards NJ.

[Ex Lion Tamer]

  On 13/02/2023 at 23:09, southamptonfc said:

I agree, he is a terrible captain. I actually cannot remember when I saw him doing anything that looked like leadership. But that tells me that nobody else wants the job and I don't hold it against him at all.

If there was anybody willing to step up, he should give up the armband immediately. We've badly missed one or more leaders on the pitch for several seasons.

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JWP may wear the armband but there's absolutely nothing stopping other players from shouting/encouraging/organising. The real problem is a lack of senior quality at centre back / DM

[Viking Saint]

  On 15/02/2023 at 12:17, Ex Lion Tamer said:

JWP may wear the armband but there's absolutely nothing stopping other players from shouting/encouraging/organising. The real problem is a lack of senior quality at centre back / DM

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Caleta-Car is the obvious candidate, surely?? World Cup runner up, 26 and over 250 senior appearances, and seems to have plenty about him

[Ex Lion Tamer]

  On 15/02/2023 at 12:34, Viking Saint said:

Caleta-Car is the obvious candidate, surely?? World Cup runner up, 26 and over 250 senior appearances, and seems to have plenty about him

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You would think. I don't know much about his personality or leadership qualities though

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[Weston Super Saint]

  On 15/02/2023 at 16:06, Ex Lion Tamer said:

You would think. I don't know much about his leadership qualities though, maybe he's the quiet type

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He was last week, not one person could hear him (but that might have something to do with him not even being on the subs bench so probably at home or playing golf or something).

[Ex Lion Tamer]

  On 15/02/2023 at 16:07, Weston Super Saint said:

He was last week, not one person could hear him (but that might have something to do with him not even being on the subs bench so probably at home or playing golf or something).

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That doesn't help, of course!

[Weston Super Saint]

  On 15/02/2023 at 16:08, Ex Lion Tamer said:

That doesn't help, of course!

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Although may suggest he's not exactly the shy, retiring type  

[southamptonfc]

  On 15/02/2023 at 12:17, Ex Lion Tamer said:

JWP may wear the armband but there's absolutely nothing stopping other players from shouting/encouraging/organising. The real problem is a lack of senior quality at centre back / DM

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Yep, thinking back to Hammon and Fonte and when I played. Having someone who can organise the defence, understands the game and has visibility of most of the pitch is such a bonus.

[the saint in winchester]

Southampton's Diallo: I'm sad for sacked Jones

Southampton midfielder Ibrahima Diallo says he was 'sad' for Nathan Jones following his sacking by the club.

 

You can back the wrong horse, Ibra!

 

[Mr X]

  On 15/02/2023 at 17:04, the saint in winchester said:

Southampton's Diallo: I'm sad for sacked Jones

Southampton midfielder Ibrahima Diallo says he was 'sad' for Nathan Jones following his sacking by the club.

 

You can back the wrong horse, Ibra!

 

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I bet he's sad ashe got picked despite abysmal performances.! He knows whoever comes in might not be so favourable to choosing him in the team 

[OldNick]

  On 15/02/2023 at 12:17, Ex Lion Tamer said:

JWP may wear the armband but there's absolutely nothing stopping other players from shouting/encouraging/organising. The real problem is a lack of senior quality at centre back / DM

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I recall when Harry first came he said then that we had a very quiet dressing room. No real characters. Seeing the abysmal defending and own goals is another reminder of that season

[Shroppie]

I've heard (can't guarantee truth) that Jones cost us in excess of £8m for his 94 day stay. Nearly £90,000 a day and over £2.5m a point. Ouch.

Tge claim was £4m to Luton and his contract of £1.25m a year for 3.5 years paid off in full.

[manji]

The original interview between Rio and Ashley Williams was available on Twitter and Rio’s YouTube channel. It was fierce. In his first talk with the Stoke players he just went on about his success at Luton. The players went out to do training and were saying “ he hasn’t told us how he wants to play. Williams was fuming in the interview swearing the lot.

I would imagine the original interview has been taken down.

 

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[Holmes_and_Watson]

  On 16/02/2023 at 11:10, manji said:

The original interview between Rio and Ashley Williams was available on Twitter and Rio’s YouTube channel. It was fierce. In his first talk with the Stoke players he just went on about his success at Luton. The players went out to do training and were saying “ he hasn’t told us how he wants to play. Williams was fuming in the interview swearing the lot.

I would imagine the ordinal interview has been taken down.

 

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Williams said that the dressing room had several players, with lots of Premier League experience in it.

He and Ryan Shawcross were very different types of centre half. They expected Jones to at least tell them which of the approaches he preferred, and to get them working towards that.

Williams said that instead, Jones said he wasn't going to coach players at that level. The Stoke players just looked at each other and wondered what he was there for. Now Jones may we'll have just meant that players at Premier League level should already know the basics.  But Williams went on to say that Jones backed off of making any of those decisions all through his spell, struggled to deal with the players, and that the tactics were confused.

Sadly a template for what we got.

 

[obelisk]

https://www.theguardian.com/football/the-set-pieces-blog/2023/feb/16/nathan-jones-debacle-premier-league-bad-news-efl-managers-championship

Lessons will be learned it seems.

[S-Clarke]

  On 16/02/2023 at 12:13, obelisk said:

https://www.theguardian.com/football/the-set-pieces-blog/2023/feb/16/nathan-jones-debacle-premier-league-bad-news-efl-managers-championship

Lessons will be learned it seems.

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The lesson should have already been learned from his stoke experience though, it's nonsense that we thought it would be any different. 

For a club that prides it's self in due diligence and 'contacts' in the game to sound out decisions they decided to not bother with any of that on this one. It's a one person appointment, no matter what anyone else says. Ankerson liked him, ticked the stats boxes, anyone else who disagreed was shot down.

If the majority of the fan base had the same questions when he was appointed you can almost gaurentee there were voices at the club sharing the same concerns, but they were ignored to fulfil someones ego.

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[Crab Lungs]

  On 16/02/2023 at 12:16, S-Clarke said:

The lesson should have already been learned from his stoke experience though, it's nonsense that we thought it would be any different. 

For a club that prides it's self in due diligence and 'contacts' in the game to sound out decisions they decided to not bother with any of that on this one. It's a one person appointment, no matter what anyone else says. Ankerson liked him, ticked the stats boxes, anyone else who disagreed was shot down.

If the majority of the fan base had the same questions when he was appointed you can almost gaurentee there were voices at the club sharing the same concerns, but they were ignored to fulfil someones ego.

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The club prides itself on these things, but the reality is it’s all talk. All puff. It’s empty platitudes over and over again. We’re rammed full of talkers, not doers.

There’s so many people on the staff as well as players mugging a living it’s unreal. Empty vacuous statements with zero substance behind it, all to fool a lot of the fans who believe they’ve bought into a club that know what their doing.

They haven’t known their a55 from their elbows for almost a decade now, it’s embarrassing.

[SotonianWill]

I want to thank Jones as now we can have the most stupid opinion but if you put with the greatest respect in front of it everyone understands it’s a piss take.

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[Osvaldorama]

  On 16/02/2023 at 11:25, Holmes_and_Watson said:

Williams said that the dressing room had several players, with lots of Premier League experience in it.

He and Ryan Shawcross were very different types of centre half. They expected Jones to at least tell them which of the approaches he preferred, and to get them working towards that.

Williams said that instead, Jones said he wasn't going to coach players at that level. The Stoke players just looked at each other and wondered what he was there for. Now Jones may we'll have just meant that players at Premier League level should already know the basics.  But Williams went on to say that Jones backed off of making any of those decisions all through his spell, struggled to deal with the players, and that the tactics were confused.

Sadly a template for what we got.

 

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Its absolutely fucking ridiculous that the board made this utter cretin their choice. 
 

I honestly still can’t get over it. It was so hilariously obvious that he was useless. Unbelievable. 

One of the worst decisions I’ve ever seen from a PL club. I assume the only reason Ankersen is still about is because of his ownership stake. Because if he’s an employee he should be sacked immediately. 
 

 

[Mustang Saint]

  On 12/02/2023 at 11:53, JRM said:

Of course he's done well financially but there's more to life than money Grandad 

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I wholeheartedly agree, I'm sat here on a tiny island in the Indian Ocean listening to the sea, I go home on Sunday and I would honestly say I would give up the nice car, the money and the big house for the simple life the staff here live. 

[Whitey Grandad]

  On 17/02/2023 at 18:40, Mustang Saint said:

I wholeheartedly agree, I'm sat here on a tiny island in the Indian Ocean listening to the sea, I go home on Sunday and I would honestly say I would give up the nice car, the money and the big house for the simple life the staff here live. 

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And no heating bills

[Convict Colony]

  On 17/02/2023 at 18:40, Mustang Saint said:

I wholeheartedly agree, I'm sat here on a tiny island in the Indian Ocean listening to the sea, I go home on Sunday and I would honestly say I would give up the nice car, the money and the big house for the simple life the staff here live. 

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Maldives scheduled to be underwater by 2050 - think australia has said it will take them 

[wild-saint]

  On 17/02/2023 at 18:40, Mustang Saint said:

I wholeheartedly agree, I'm sat here on a tiny island in the Indian Ocean listening to the sea, I go home on Sunday and I would honestly say I would give up the nice car, the money and the big house for the simple life the staff here live. 

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Then  why don’t you? Other than the fact you have money, a nice car and a big house. Probably the reason I don’t live in the maritious or some place like it.

one positive of Mad Nath. I got to see an away win at  Goodson 😂😂

[Whitey Grandad]

  On 17/02/2023 at 20:10, wild-saint said:

Then  why don’t you? Other than the fact you have money, a nice car and a big house. Probably the reason I don’t live in the maritious or some place like it.

one positive of Mad Nath. I got to see an away win at  Goodson 😂😂

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Without the money nobody would ever visit the Maldives.

[Golac's Cunning Stunts]

  On 16/02/2023 at 21:39, SotonianWill said:

I want to thank Jones as now we can have the most stupid opinion but if you put with the greatest respect in front of it everyone understands it’s a piss take.

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and back it up with a hearty "niiiiice" every now and again

[64saint]

  On 16/02/2023 at 21:53, Osvaldorama said:

Its absolutely fucking ridiculous that the board made this utter cretin their choice. 
 

 

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I thought the title of this thread was......The Nathan Jones Appreciation Thread....🤣🤣🤣🤣

Edited 17 February, 2023 by 64saint

[Saint Keef]

A proud Welshman, who rose from humble beginnings in a small village, to be an internationally acclaimed superstar, not only in Europe, but worldwide, winning countless awards along the way. To listen to him, his voice resonates pure class and has only matured with age. He is without doubt one of the greatest of all t.......sorry, I thought you said Sir Tom Jones.

Nathan Jones you say? Nah, he was just a clusterfuck of a football manager.

 

[Weston Super Saint]

  On 18/02/2023 at 06:30, Saint Keef said:

A proud Welshman, who rose from humble beginnings in a small village, to be an internationally acclaimed superstar, not only in Europe, but worldwide, winning countless awards along the way. To listen to him, his voice resonates pure class and has only matured with age. He is without doubt one of the greatest of all t.......sorry, .

 

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Colin Jackson?

[Lord Duckhunter]

  On 16/02/2023 at 11:10, manji said:

The players went out to do training and were saying “ he hasn’t told us how he wants to play. 

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[HKsaint]

NJ is scratching his head and say “unfair” now.

[hypochondriac]

What must he be thinking... 

[AlexLaw76]

  On 18/02/2023 at 17:21, hypochondriac said:

What must he be thinking... 

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he was sacked 1 game too soon. He will be thinking this was his work - the lunatic

[hypochondriac]

  On 18/02/2023 at 17:22, AlexLaw76 said:

he was sacked 1 game too soon. He will be thinking this was his work - the lunatic

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Yes most likely! This was one of those wins we were so close to getting under him... 

[S-Clarke]

  On 18/02/2023 at 17:21, hypochondriac said:

What must he be thinking... 

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He'll probably include this game in his ludicrous win % he kept proclaiming.

[Whitey Grandad]

  On 18/02/2023 at 17:50, S-Clarke said:

He'll probably include this game in his ludicrous win % he kept proclaiming.

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If he wants to include this win on the grounds that it’s his team then he has also to include Luton’s losses.

[Football Special]

We should have kept him 

 

[CSA96]

"You have to sacrifice everything now. You're not shopping, you're not bowling, your diet's good. If your wife or girlfriend wants to go shopping... you can't now go to Bluewater tomorrow, walking round high-fiving and going to Costa Coffee"

Mad as a box of frogs