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  1. 1. How do you think our League season will end?

    • We will start winning games and finish mid-table
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    • We will just about get the points we need and scrape survival
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    • I have that horrible sinking feeling that ends in relegation… but only after a fight to the end
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    • Relegation… and with a shockingly low points total
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SNSUN

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I’m just trying to gauge the current feeling about this season (league not cup). I still believe that we’re heading down, it’s just a feeling I’ve had all season, and despite recent signings (which I think will give us half a chance) the lack of 3 weak teams this season could be our undoing and we’ve wasted a lot of points already.

 

So a simple vote… how do you see it ending?

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Jimbo

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Down - and pretty obvious since about a year ago it would happen, certainly since the summer.

No goals, barely any quality in all areas of the pitch, no wise heads, too much calamity defending/goalkeeping.  Add in now a tactically weak manager who seems focused more on scoring points vs the fans than on the pitch.

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Saint Garrett

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Can’t see Forest going down now. They’ve barely lost a game since November. 

If we end the season as we are now, I.e with Jones playing strange tactics and players out of position, I think we’re long gone.

All is not lost though, still plenty of points up for grabs. 

As it stands now, I’d be going for

18. Bournemouth
19. Everton
20. Southampton,

 

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2 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said:

Can’t see Forest going down now. They’ve barely lost a game since November. 

If we end the season as we are now, I.e with Jones playing strange tactics and players out of position, I think we’re long gone.

All is not lost though, still plenty of points up for grabs. 

As it stands now, I’d be going for

18. Bournemouth
19. Everton
20. Southampton,

 

That’s how I see it 

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Dusic

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Relegation because of various factors, most of which predate Jones. Should have fired Ralph in the summer and didnt have enough goals in the team, possibly still don't.

We could improve quite substantially and still go down as not many teams look really poor.

Its a bad season to be rubbish because most teams are decent and some who people thought would be in trouble are safe already.

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I'm usually an optimist when it comes to considering possible outcomes for Saints at any given moment in time (yes, foolhardy in the extreme, I know!) but this season just feels different and I can only foresee us getting relegated with ease I'm afraid. You know things are bad when even I've turned into a Saintsweb pessimist!

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Dark Munster

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Relegation. Not sure by how much, but below 17th.

We aren't currently cut adrift, and have a squad more than capable of finishing above 3 other teams. But with that clueless muppet in charge, and no sign of him being sacked until it's too late, I can only see one outcome.

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LVSaint

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5 hours ago, Colinjb said:

Stick a fork in us, we're done. We've been charmed for quite a while, it's been coming.

been coming based on what we've been up to in the last few seasons, just a surreal twist that suddenly sees us spends wads of cash, and we have a squad capable of survival, let down by a wacky managerial fuckup.

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2 hours ago, Singapore Saint said:

We'll probably end up 15th as we've done for the past 2 seasons. I like Nathan, I think he's an improvement on Ralph. Got a feeling Paul and Che will form a good partnership and Gavin will improve in goal for us. Hope springs eternal, doesn't it? 😂

I’ll have a little bit of what you’re on please!!

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westmidlandsaint

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At the moment I just can't see 3 worse teams if I'm honest maybe 1 or 2. Having said that at the start of the season I said Brighton & Fulham would be in bottom three so what do I know.

Feels like someone needs to be dragged into it 2nd half the season

Everton - think they're in trouble but Dyche could be a good appointment if he can galvanise them. They need DCL to have a good 2nd half of the season. 

Bournemouth -  despite a fairly good window I think they'll still struggle. Relegation awaits.

Wolves - good managerial appointment, good transfer window think they'll pull away from trouble.

West Ham - they have enough quality, finished in European places with pretty much the same group of players last season. Think they'll start gelling. 

Leeds - spent a bit January with some half decent signings Wober, McKennie & Rutter. Rodrigo out for a while is bad for them, Bamford is made of glass so could come down to whether Rutter is cut out for the Prem.

Leicester - they're a mixed bag aren't they!! Started season poorly, revival before world cup then poor again since. Keeping James Madison fit is key for them. Think they'll have enough but few injuries they could be sucked in.

Forest - really not sure how he's going to keep everyone happy there. Might take time for them to gel and he hasn't got a clue about preferred 11. A few bad results and rot could set in. Hopefully they could be dragged back in. 

Palace - thought they were a team that needed a striker in Jan. Zaha, Eze & Olise give them creativity but lack of quality up top. They are a team that with a few injuries could definitely be dragged in of not careful. 

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CB Fry

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Some time around Mid March we will win two games in a row and everyone will get excited and look-he's-proved-you-all-wrong etc etc.

But relegated teams do win some matches, they don't lose all of them.

We're going down, there is no way there are 3 others worse than us. Fulham having such a great season (and Brentford refusing to deliver a second season syndrome slump) have really screwed us. There's not enough real competition for relegation, just a load of rich enough clubs that in the end will be fine (Leicester, West Ham etc). 

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austsaint

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4 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

Some time around Mid March we will win two games in a row and everyone will get excited and look-he's-proved-you-all-wrong etc etc.

But relegated team do win some matches, they don't lose all of them.

We're going down, there is no way there are 3 others worse than us. Fulham having such a great season (and Brentford refusing to deliver a second season syndrome slump) have really screwed us. There's not enough real competition for relegation, just a load of rich enough clubs that in the end will be fine (Leicester, West Ham etc). 

Depressing, but prescient.    What about if Ankersen bites the bullet, sends Jones packing soon, and gets a Benitez, Bielsa, Big Sam through the door?

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32 minutes ago, austsaint said:

Depressing, but prescient.    What about if Ankersen bites the bullet, sends Jones packing soon, and gets a Benitez, Bielsa, Big Sam through the door?

Maybe - apart from the goalie we are perfectly good enough on paper.

The thing that might help us is West Ham or Leicester going mad and sacking their experienced managers, the disruption maybe might help them down on the mix (say if West Ham go mad and appoint Mark Noble or something). We do need some other teams to screw themselves.

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10 hours ago, Saint Garrett said:

Can’t see Forest going down now. They’ve barely lost a game since November. 

If we end the season as we are now, I.e with Jones playing strange tactics and players out of position, I think we’re long gone.

All is not lost though, still plenty of points up for grabs. 

As it stands now, I’d be going for

18. Bournemouth
19. Everton
20. Southampton,

 

Yep.

I'm normally pretty optimistic, but I can't see our 'manager' being able to implement a structure and approach to deliver the results we need.

Hope I'm proved wrong.

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austsaint

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11 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

Maybe - apart from the goalie we are perfectly good enough on paper.

The thing that might help us is West Ham or Leicester going nad and sacking their experienced managers, the disruption maybe might help them down on the mix (say if West Ham go mad and appoint Mark Noble or something). We do need some other teams to screw themselves.

Sadly, hoping for  West Ham, Leicester and Everton to screw up looks a different proposition to Burnley, Watford, Norwich, WBA, Cardiff in recent years.  

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StrangelyBrown

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I can't see us winning under Jones, I don't think he's got it in him to find a settled line up and a way of playing that actually works. The relentless tinkering will see us lose probably by small margins, but from a points point of view I think we're going to lose touch with the pack fairly quickly. We're not even picking up draws at the moment.

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S-Clarke

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The only tiny positive I can cling on at the moment is that after 20 games last season, Newcastle were 19th on 11 points. They bought in January and it changed their season, we've actually spent in January ourselves so you hope it can make a difference. The biggest difference there is that they had a competent manger, but let's not go there.

I still think it's a tall order, and the wins need to start today if we are to start doing anything of note.

One thing I will say is that there is always a team who look fairly comfortable that get sucked right into it, got a feeling Palace could be dragged down there - maybe (They're without Zaha for 2 months with Injury).

Let's see where we are after Wolves at home, 4 points has to be the absolute min from the next two imo. Anything less and I genuinely think the fat lady will be on the stage ready for the encore.

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AlexLaw76

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Comfortable Relegation - and it will be entirely deserved as it was completely avoidable.

We are unlikely to get out of the bottom 3 for the remainder of the season.  Sure, we will win more points and the odd game, and Jones will use that as a stick to beat his detractors with.  Simple point, he is woefully out of his depth and those running the club are hilariously bad at it

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2 hours ago, CB Fry said:

Maybe - apart from the goalie we are perfectly good enough on paper.

The thing that might help us is West Ham or Leicester going mad and sacking their experienced managers, the disruption maybe might help them down on the mix (say if West Ham go mad and appoint Mark Noble or something). We do need some other teams to screw themselves.

Good post. I can still fantasise about Ankerson sacking Jones after Brentford and then appointing Bielsa or Graham Potter if he gets booted from Chelsea. I think even with a relegation that would be exciting. 

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1 minute ago, hypochondriac said:

Good post. I can still fantasise about Ankerson sacking Jones after Brentford and then appointing Bielsa or Graham Potter if he gets booted from Chelsea. I think even with a relegation that would be exciting. 

If Potter became available, he’d grind us to to safety IMO.

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For the first time in nearly two seasons we have a recognised striker coming in. That is why we are in the shit, that is why the fans are toxic to every leadership decision and why no manager who walked through the doors and didn’t start Winning was going to get pelters.

so we bought a striker, now we have a chance, Jones also has a chance to redeem himself, the owners a chance to not lose a lot of money and the players to retain some earnings value.

All the above need to stop bitching and whining at each other at least a month and see what pans out.

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1 minute ago, Mallagroth said:

For the first time in nearly two seasons we have a recognised striker coming in. That is why we are in the shit, that is why the fans are toxic to every leadership decision and why no manager who walked through the doors and didn’t start Winning was going to get pelters.

so we bought a striker, now we have a chance, Jones also has a chance to redeem himself, the owners a chance to not lose a lot of money and the players to retain some earnings value.

All the above need to stop bitching and whining at each other at least a month and see what pans out.

And then Jones will play the Orsic and the ghanaian at Wing Back, with Janny B leading the defence

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S-Clarke

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8 minutes ago, Crab Lungs said:

A late rally, improved performances but still strewn with stupid mistakes. We’ve left ourselves too much to do.

Down, sadly. Or Romeo, done.
 

Everton to survive though again, annoyingly.

I don't know where people are getting this faith in Everton from, they're in an even worse state than us. Granted, they have a better manager but still they've got nothing in attack.

DCL is consistently injured, unfit and seemingly transitioning into a woman. The bad injury he had previously has totally changed him as a player. Andros Townsend is injured for the season, Maupay doesn't score goals - so that kind of leaves them with Dimari Gray and Ellis Simms. They'll be hard to beat for sure, but I just don't see where the goals or pace are in that side.

Gordon was average as hell, but he could still create a spark and get them a goal from somewhere. If you look at them last season, they got out of trouble through Richarlison and Gordon in the main. They have neither this year and haven't even replaced either of them.

I'll probably be made to eat my words in a couple of hours, but we'll see!

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At the moment relegation looks pretty certain. That has been the case for 12 months.

The points gap is negligible. 7 other clubs are right in the game with Saints. No need to worry on that front.

However ynless something changes Saints won't get the necessary points to stay with our competitors.

Can't argue Saints don't have the players. Key question is whether Jones has the nous and/or time to get them playing to their potential.

If Dyche was in charge we'd probably be feeling more confident, but a little queasy at the style of football.

I think we look way too disjointed at the moment. I'm normally optimistic but I just can't see evidence of a revival.

Lots of false dawns I bet, but in the end I fear it won't be enough.

However not giving up hope. It isn't over yet.

Need to learn to draw as well as win. When it is this tight points are crucial.

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Whitey Grandad

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59 minutes ago, Mallagroth said:

For the first time in nearly two seasons we have a recognised striker coming in. That is why we are in the shit, that is why the fans are toxic to every leadership decision and why no manager who walked through the doors and didn’t start Winning was going to get pelters.

so we bought a striker, now we have a chance, Jones also has a chance to redeem himself, the owners a chance to not lose a lot of money and the players to retain some earnings value.

All the above need to stop bitching and whining at each other at least a month and see what pans out.

It doesn't matter who we have up front if we have an absolute Horlicks of a defence. Playing five at the back just makes it a lumpier Horlicks.

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6 hours ago, Convict Colony said:

Only went for mid table since some pessimist didn't put champions league qualification as an option.

Other (explain in comments) CC! Covered every eventuality including points deductions!

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