Brentford 3-0 Saints - Match Thread

[Whitey Grandad]

27 minutes ago, disconnect said:

After all the decent signings we've made, how is Armstrong still getting in the team?!

I also have a horrible feeling that Janny B is a favourite of the manager along with Lyanco, and instead of two of DCC / ABK / Salisu, we'll be seeing Janny B with Lyanco with at least 2 of our best CBs on the bench. 

That is a worry. This ‘manager’ seems to be trying to learn as he goes along. He talks of getting used to various formations when what is need in our situation is a team which is solid defensively and which plays in a formation with which they are accustomed and comfortable. This is no time to be trying out different players to see how good they are.

He threw that semi final in an attempt to try something different. It was an insult to those supporters that made a wonderful effort to get up there and cheer their team on.

[Anthony]

I know there is another post with someone wanting a ticket.

If there are any other tickets for sale, I would to buy 1 or 2.

[Give it to Ron]

Have a look at the B team today!!!

[Scoobysaint]

So no Caletta Carr, ABK, Djenepo or Orsic tomorrow as they are all playing today in the B match against Sheffield Utd. 

[Chocolate Box]

FFS, ABK and DCC playing for the B team today!!

[Pamplemousse]

Christ that means Bednarek is going to start, isn't he?

[Pamplemousse]

ABK I can understand because he needs to improve his fitness clearly. But surely DCC should be starting tomorrow. Baffling from our deluded manager.

[beatlesaint]

3 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said:

Christ that means Bednarek is going to start, isn't he?

yep, and Lyanco

[disconnect]

Just now, beatlesaint said:

yep, and Lyanco

So we want to play 'defend for your lives' style last ditch style defence rather than proper 'it doesnt need to be a panic' defence? 😬

[trousers]

Doesn't playing 1st teamers in the b-side 24 hours before a PL game also give our opponents an advantage by giving them early sight of our likely starting 11 and thus more preparation time. Seems a tad amateur to me...

[saintant]

17 minutes ago, Pamplemousse said:

Christ that means Bednarek is going to start, isn't he?

Ivan Toney rubbing his hands as we speak 🙂

[hypochondriac]

My prediction for tomorrow is 

Bree bednarek Salisu kwp 

If we play 4 at the back or you can add Lyanco to that if we go 5. Either way it's ridiculous when you have DCC and Perraud fit and ready to go. The team should clearly be:

 

KWP DCC Salisu Perraud 

Edited 3 February, 2023 by hypochondriac

[saintant]

Gearing up to be the rinse and repeat of start with a back 5, go 2 goals down, convert to 4 at the back and make a game of it but all too late.

[Dman]

An absolutely mind boggling decision. It genuinely makes absolutely no sense. 
 

ABK I kinda get, he’s been out needs game time. Djenepo, meh. Orsic, I could also understand, he’s struggled to adapt to the PL / our system. 
 

DCC, absolutely nothing positive at all can come from him playing today. He must be match fit or at least fit enough to play, he’s our best CB. He could easily get an injury here, for absolutely nothing. 
 

We’ve just played with 3 CB’s and he was ‘rested’, why the fuck is he playing today? 
 

Jones has started to lose his marbles. Not good. 

[Dman]

2 minutes ago, hypochondriac said:

My prediction for tomorrow is 

Bree bednarek Salisu kwp 

If we play 4 at the back or you can add Lyanco to that if we go 5. Either way it's ridiculous when you have DCC and Perraud fit and ready to go. The team should clearly be:

 

KWP DCC Salisu Perraud 

It’s complete madness that he’s not tried this. Especially when everything else he’s tried has gone to shit. 

[trousers]

I wonder what Oršić is thinking?

Where he played (and scored) 48 days ago and where he's playing today.. 😂

 

[JRM]

4 minutes ago, Dman said:

An absolutely mind boggling decision. It genuinely makes absolutely no sense. 
 

ABK I kinda get, he’s been out needs game time. Djenepo, meh. Orsic, I could also understand, he’s struggled to adapt to the PL / our system. 
 

DCC, absolutely nothing positive at all can come from him playing today. He must be match fit or at least fit enough to play, he’s our best CB. He could easily get an injury here, for absolutely nothing. 
 

We’ve just played with 3 CB’s and he was ‘rested’, why the fuck is he playing today? 
 

Jones has started to lose his marbles. Not good. 

That B team line up could probably beat the A team that will play tomorrow 

[JRM]

Just now, trousers said:

I wonder what Oršić is thinking?

Where he played (and scored) 48 days ago and where he's playing today.. 😂

 

Nothing wrong with AFC Totton thank you very much , cheesy chips from the kiosk worth going along for alone you don't get that at the world Cup 

[trousers]

Just now, JRM said:

Nothing wrong with AFC Totton thank you very much , cheesy chips from the kiosk worth going along for alone you don't get that at the world Cup 

Ha... Fair point

[hypochondriac]

4 minutes ago, Dman said:

It’s complete madness that he’s not tried this. Especially when everything else he’s tried has gone to shit. 

Lyanco should be nowhere near the team but Jones is obsessed with "aggression" which is normally an attribute that lower league teams have when they are very limited and trying to compete against teams that are superior to them. It rarely ends well. 

[JRM]

PL2 cup knockout game at least a competitive run out, Sheff Utd currently top of their u21 league so will give them a proper test (no idea how strong their side is) 

[hypochondriac]

4 minutes ago, JRM said:

That B team line up could probably beat the A team that will play tomorrow 

I think they'd give them a good game at the very least. 

[S-Clarke]

So I assume that almost certainly confirms the continuation of Lyanco and Elyounoussi in our starting 11 for tomorrow.

At least they're 'great lads', although it doesn't quite make up for their shitness. 

Feeling of groundhog day already, but let's see what happens.

[Saint Billy]

4 minutes ago, JRM said:

Nothing wrong with AFC Totton thank you very much , cheesy chips from the kiosk worth going along for alone you don't get that at the world Cup 

I wonder if Orsic will like the cheesy chips? 

[trousers]

15 minutes ago, Dman said:

DCC, absolutely nothing positive at all can come from him playing today. He must be match fit or at least fit enough to play, he’s our best CB. He could easily get an injury here, for absolutely nothing. 

I'm wondering if Jones and DCC have fallen out over Jones' recent "he needs to concentrate on being a defender not a footballer" comment..? #readingbetweenthelines

Edited 3 February, 2023 by trousers

[egg]

3 hours ago, Pamplemousse said:

If McCarthy is fit he starts. He's head and shoulders above Bazunu

As bad as Baz is, he's not that bad. 

[hypochondriac]

6 minutes ago, S-Clarke said:

So I assume that almost certainly confirms the continuation of Lyanco and Elyounoussi in our starting 11 for tomorrow.

At least they're 'great lads', although it doesn't quite make up for their shitness. 

Feeling of groundhog day already, but let's see what happens.

They're the type of players that a lower league old school type of manager would love. Its one of the many reasons that Jones isn't going to work out here unless he changes. 

[northam soul]

It’s bizarre that a Croatian international that played in the World Cup semi final is deemed not good enough for us.

I know Orsic hasn’t got off to the best of starts but fuck me he has quality  and a few games for us (not in the B team) should show that.

[Dman]

Just now, hypochondriac said:

They're the type of players that a lower league old school type of manager would love. Its one of the many reasons that Jones isn't going to work out here unless he changes. 

I don’t actually think they would love Lyanco though. He cant defend. His so called ‘aggression’ is simply him getting too tight and flying into tackles which result in people skipping past him 9 time out of 10. 

There’s half a player in there, under the right manager, but idiots like Jones, encouraging his brain dead defending, make him worse. 

[Toadhall Saint]

43 minutes ago, Scoobysaint said:

So no Caletta Carr, ABK, Djenepo or Orsic tomorrow as they are all playing today in the B match against Sheffield Utd. 

I fucking despair. 

[trousers]

Pre-match press conference...

Jones: "Now we're back to one game a week we'll play our strongest 11 each game..."

Work permit situation for the two new players still being sorted.... wouldn't confirm if they can play tomorrow or not

 

Edited 3 February, 2023 by trousers

[hypochondriac]

2 minutes ago, Dman said:

I don’t actually think they would love Lyanco though. He cant defend. His so called ‘aggression’ is simply him getting too tight and flying into tackles which result in people skipping past him 9 time out of 10. 

There’s half a player in there, under the right manager, but idiots like Jones, encouraging his brain dead defending, make him worse. 

Oh I do. The lower leagues are full of passionate types without much ability who compensate for it by kicking players up in the air, shouting at their teammates and thumping their chests. Those are clearly attributes that Jones values in his quest to give us aggression. 

[hypochondriac]

2 minutes ago, trousers said:

Pre-match press conference...

Jones: "Now we're back to one game a week we'll play our strongest 11 each game..."

Work permit situation for the two new players still being sorted.... wouldn't confirm if they can play tomorrow or not

Very interesting. Tomorrow will supposedly be our strongest defence then. 

[trousers]

Journo: "Does players starting today for the u23s rule them out starting tomorrow?"

Jones: "Not necessarily"

[badgerx16]

2 minutes ago, trousers said:

Pre-match press conference...

Jones: "Now we're back to one game a week we'll play our strongest 11 each game..."

 

Not with him in charge.

[Saint Garrett]

B team today, makes as much sense as Jones prioritising Blackpool over Newcastle on Tuesday with Lavia.

[trousers]

Journo: "Is KWP's hamstring OK?"

Jones: "Yep, just precautionary, but undecided if he starts tomorrow"

[hypochondriac]

I saw that Jones suggests that KWP might not start. If so then Perraud in the left I assume and Bree RB. Maybe not out of choice though but due to circumstances. 

[tdmickey3]

10 minutes ago, Toadhall Saint said:

I fucking despair. 

Its gonna be fuckin Lyanco, you can bet on it

🤮

Bazuna

Bree  Lyanco  Bednerak  Salisu 

Diallo Ely JWP

Walcott Adams Armstrong

An afternoon of misery tomorrrow

Edited 3 February, 2023 by tdmickey3

[trousers]

Jones on playing a back 5: "It's players and personnel that win games, not systems. We didn't lose because we started with a back 5..."

[hypochondriac]

2 minutes ago, trousers said:

Journo: "Does players starting today for the u23s rule them out starting tomorrow?"

Jones: "Not necessarily"

Who the f*ck plays a player and then 24 hours later starts them in a prem game? That's clearly bollocks. 

[hypochondriac]

Just now, trousers said:

Jones on playing a back 5: "It's players and personnel that win games, not systems. We didn't lose because we started with a back 5..."

I'm done. That's a complete and utter lie. The bloke is deluded. We absolutely lost because we started with a back five. 

[Dman]

1 minute ago, trousers said:

Jones on playing a back 5: "It's players and personnel that win games, not systems. We didn't lose because we started with a back 5..."

Really, really worrying / concerning statement. 
 

Also incredibly wrong and blaming they players rather than himself. 
 

Toss pot. 

[Archers Road Stand]

1 minute ago, trousers said:

Jones on playing a back 5: "It's players and personnel that win games, not systems. We didn't lose because we started with a back 5..."

Jesus christ. Sack this clown. 

[Saint Garrett]

He also said "we usually score with a back 5".

Yes - once we go to a back 4 normally. 

Bloke is an absolute clown and has to go. 

[trousers]

He also said about the League Cup Semi: "we took a top premier league side to the wire" 

😂

Edited 3 February, 2023 by trousers

[northam soul]

2 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said:

He also said "we usually score with a back 5".

Yes - once we go to a back 4 normally. 

Bloke is an absolute clown and has to go. 

And after we have conceded a couple.

[Saint Garrett]

I hope the fans properly turn on him this weekend if he goes with Lyanco and Bednarek at the back. 

He's literally taking the piss out of every fan that pays money to go to our games.

[trousers]

Just now, Saint Garrett said:

I hope the fans properly turn on him this weekend if he goes with Lyanco and Bednarek at the back. 

He's literally taking the piss out of every fan that pays money to go to our games.

He said he's going to play our "strongest team" so have some faith FFS!

[trousers]

In more positive news, he also mentioned that Stuart Armstrong wasn't far away from being involved again 

Edited 3 February, 2023 by trousers