Brentford 3-0 Saints - Match Thread

[Nolan]

1 hour ago, SaintJakko said:

I try, I try my absolute hardest to support Jones, but Jesus Christ. I just cannot. Not even being a jump on the negative wave brigade. But when a manager does so much wrong, says so much shit, how can you even be positive that we will do ANYTHING different tomorrow. 
 

THEN PLAYS 4 senior players in a youth game, not only meaning they will be ruled out tomorrow due to fitness, but also gives away half your formation for tomorrows game!!! He’s a moron. Simply put.. 

The same manager who during the first leg of the Semi final, had Salisu warm up in a differing position to the position he was starting in.?

Let's not pretend we can prejudge this, because the whole point is we probably want Brentford to prejudge our formation based on today's B team game 

[Highfield Saint]

Wow!

This thread - some crazy shit on here...

[trousers]

8 minutes ago, Nolan said:

The same manager who during the first leg of the Semi final, had Salisu warm up in a differing position to the position he was starting in.?

Let's not pretend we can prejudge this, because the whole point is we probably want Brentford to prejudge our formation based on today's B team game 

If today's B-Team selection was a smokescreen to confuse Brentford and we go onto win the game then i'll concede that Jones is a genius

[AlexLaw76]

Just now, trousers said:

If today's B-Team selection was a smokescreen to confuse Brentford and we go onto win the game then i'll concede that Jones is a genius

time for this.... 😉

[Harry_SFC]

I might just go for a day out shopping in London with the Mrs instead. Yes, it's genuinely got that bad. 

[Verbal]

48 minutes ago, trousers said:

If today's B-Team selection was a smokescreen to confuse Brentford and we go onto win the game then i'll concede that Jones is a genius

Snippy

[Toussaint]

17 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said:

I might just go for a day out shopping in London with the Mrs instead. Yes, it's genuinely got that bad. 

What has, the pre match thread? If you have tickets you don’t want then pm me.

[CB Fry]

DID WE WIN THE B TEAM GAME?

[Andrew Watson]

It doe not matter a jot whether other teams have hard fixtures, because we are unlikely to get a result tomorrow with the eleven Jones probably starts with. Toney will think that it is his birthday and christmas all rolled into one.

[Toadhall Saint]

11 minutes ago, CB Fry said:

DID WE WIN THE B TEAM GAME?

Yes one nil I believe 

[badgerx16]

1 hour ago, Highfield Saint said:

Wow!

This thread - some crazy shit on here...

Mostly the quotes from NJ.

[SaintZamboni]

I can’t see that we’d start with 3 at the back tomorrow if 2 of our 5 senior centre backs are playing today. Suggests a 4 to me. The issue will be if Salisu is the lb instead of Perraud or KWP

[Mr X]

3 hours ago, goodymatt said:

As good a job Ralph did with such limited resources, the calendar year of 2022 performances (90th out of 92 professional teams) gets every manager on the planet the sack. We were patient as fans and the club were patient too, it had run its course no matter how much I liked him or how good a calibre of manager he was.

For me the calibre of Ralph’s replacement remains the issue. Still do feel sad about Ralph as he was the most likeable manager we’ve had in a very long time.

Did Ralph give any kind of leaving statement btw?

[Weston Super Saint]

12 minutes ago, Mr X said:

Did Ralph give any kind of leaving statement btw?

Thanks for the cheque.

[Weston Super Saint]

Apparently DCC played today because he's been missing games and corporal fucking Jones doesn't want him to lose his rhythm.

He seems to have forgotten that he picked the team that led to DCC missing the game in the first place.

Clueless.

Edited 3 February, 2023 by Weston Super Saint

[SaintZamboni]

4 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Apparently DCC played today because he's been missing games and corporal fucking Jones doesn't want him to lose his rhythm.

He seems to have forgotten that he picked the team that led to DCC missing the game in the first place.

Clueless.

He picked a team that resulted in a player getting two bookings and then banned? That’s a bit of a stretch

[fergustabby]

9 hours ago, LiberalCommunist said:

This will be a draw. And draws are not enough now. 

Away draws are, as long as they are coupled with home wins. That's a big ask though.🫤

[Daft Kerplunk]

21 hours ago, Saint Garrett said:

How can we possibly start Bednarek moving forward this season. The bloke is awful, and we have 3 better centre backs. 

In the past or in the future, Bednarek will never be good moving forward. 

[SNSUN]

Ignore…

Edited 3 February, 2023 by SNSUN

[S-Clarke]

46 minutes ago, SaintZamboni said:

He picked a team that resulted in a player getting two bookings and then banned? That’s a bit of a stretch

He was suspended for the FA Cup game, he could have played in the 2nd leg but was left on the bench.

[SNSUN]

3 minutes ago, SNSUN said:

Mia

Ignore that peeps, my daughter got hold of my phone when I wasn’t looking and decided to type her name. 🙈

[SNSUN]

10 hours ago, LiberalCommunist said:

This will be a draw. And draws are not enough now. 

I’m inclined to agree, and baby steps aren’t enough now, but a strong Brentford side at home coupled with what we can only assume will be a rubbish Saints starting line up… I’d take a draw here to keep us in touching distance with those above us. Then PO and KS can bed in allowing us to hopefully start beating teams to come. (Wishful thinking perhaps!)

 

A surprise win tomorrow though… that will be massive.

[Jonnyboy]

3 hours ago, trousers said:

If today's B-Team selection was a smokescreen to confuse Brentford and we go onto win the game then i'll concede that Jones is a genius

Win tomorrow and for me the League Cup malarkey is all forgiven. 

[Ekelund]

6 minutes ago, Jonnyboy said:

Win tomorrow and for me the League Cup malarkey is all forgiven. 

Somebody’s a cheap date 

[Jonnyboy]

14 minutes ago, Ekelund said:

Somebody’s a cheap date 

Certainly desperate. 

[Pamplemousse]

Just having a look on the Brentford forum. Seen a couple of their posters refer to us as 'scummers'. How odd.

 

Looking forward to this one, closest away ground for me and can walk there, so can have a lie in for once

Edited 3 February, 2023 by Pamplemousse

[FarehamSaintJames]

I think it’s time for another poll as to whether Jones is the right man or not. 🤣

[Nolan]

 

8 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

give it a rest.

[FarehamSaintJames]

2 minutes ago, Nolan said:

 

give it a rest.

You just posted something i quite clearly haven’t posted. 🤦🏻‍♂️

Also everyone is of the same opinion, where do you stand on Nathan Jones? Are you going to be over the moon if he plays a back five, Lyanco, Bednarek, Adam Armstrong etc? 🤷🏻‍♂️

Edited 3 February, 2023 by FarehamSaintJames

[FarehamSaintJames]

On 01/02/2023 at 21:10, FarehamSaintJames said:

He’s fucking miserable. But ironically he’s probably right…

Brentford will be really tough.
If we don’t take six or seven points this month then I think that will be curtains for us. 
January and February were out more “winnable” games. 🤷🏻‍♂️

BUT, we need to take the game to Brentford, and actually I think we will, it’ll be very tight! 

As said above, fine margins make a difference, someone to create and finish we have brought in, let’s take it to them! 💪🏻

@Nolan Conpletely bypassing my post from the other night before you go down the “get behind the team” route.

👍🏻

[Nolan]

see below

 

Edited 3 February, 2023 by Nolan

[Nolan]

7 minutes ago, FarehamSaintJames said:

You just posted something i quite clearly haven’t posted. 🤦🏻‍♂️

Also everyone is of the same opinion, where do you stand on Nathan Jones? Are you going to be over the moon if he plays a back five, Lyanco, Bednarek, Adam Armstrong etc? 🤷🏻‍♂️

the last manager was berated as he couldnt change formation. our current manager plays multiple formations in a game.

I'm more interested in getting goals, as you cant win games without them.

Luckily, our owners have backed our manager with people who can create goals.

 

[woodsaint1]

I've supported Jones for the most part, but if he starts Lyanco in a back 5 tomorrow then I'm done There can be no justification for starting him, even with DCC and ABK playing for the B team earlier. He is simply not a good defender. And the players clearly dont understand whats required of them in a 5-3-2.

I think the best we can hope for with the B team selection and KWPs hamstring niggle is;

              McCarthy (unlikely)

Bree     Bednarek   Salisu    Perraud

             Lavia         Alcaraz

Elyounoussi    JWP        Edozie

                      Adams

This team fills me with zero confidence, but at least for future games we should have KWP, DCC/ABK, Sulemama Orsic and Onuachu in the starting lineup......if (a big IF) Jones selects them

[SaturdayGirl]

5 at the back and we need points ....

Whats going on ... I know there has been much on the subject but we really do need more points ..

We are Stuck with Jones ... Its pretty scary right now .

[miltonroad]

Let’s at least give him the “next block of six”. Inherited a squad that are fragile; he’s identified what he thinks are the weak areas, and has been backed. Now it’s on him. 

[StrangelyBrown]

10 minutes ago, woodsaint1 said:

I've supported Jones for the most part, but if he starts Lyanco in a back 5 tomorrow then I'm done There can be no justification for starting him, even with DCC and ABK playing for the B team earlier. He is simply not a good defender. And the players clearly dont understand whats required of them in a 5-3-2.

I think the best we can hope for with the B team selection and KWPs hamstring niggle is;

              McCarthy (unlikely)

Bree     Bednarek   Salisu    Perraud

             Lavia         Alcaraz

Elyounoussi    JWP        Edozie

                      Adams

This team fills me with zero confidence, but at least for future games we should have KWP, DCC/ABK, Sulemama Orsic and Onuachu in the starting lineup......if (a big IF) Jones selects them

Couldn't agree more re that team filling with no confidence - if Janny B plays we lose IMO - he's rusty and he's probably our worst CB even when he's at his best. Ely is simply not good enough, Adams scored a worldy midweek so the odds are against him scoring.

Let's hope I'm wrong.

[obelisk]

Jeez! Popped in here for a look and it's full of wrist slashers. Depressing stuff.

[austsaint]

3 hours ago, Weston Super Saint said:

Apparently DCC played today because he's been missing games and corporal fucking Jones doesn't want him to lose his rhythm.

He seems to have forgotten that he picked the team that led to DCC missing the game in the first place.

Clueless.

What makes that explanation farcical is playing Bednarek the other night (ok, he wasn't awful but we have three much better CBs) who had hardly played during his loan period.   

[Saint Garrett]

Wrong thread.

Edited 3 February, 2023 by Saint Garrett

[OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint]

Given who played today, I'm guessing he'll play his mate at right back and Bednarek and Salisu will be the centres. Don't think that's too bad, but Adams needs someone up with him. The beanpole? I'm expecting him to pick him or Sulemana as starters because surely by now he's realised that Ely and the others he inherited aren't first team material.  Going for:-

                         Baz  

Bree     Bednarek   Salisu    Perraud

             Lavia         Alcaraz

                           JWP               Edozie

             Adams        Onuachu

And a 0-1 win to give us hope. Sadly, I never bet against my interests (and lost a lot in the process!).

[FarehamSaintJames]

1 hour ago, Nolan said:

the last manager was berated as he couldnt change formation. our current manager plays multiple formations in a game.

I'm more interested in getting goals, as you cant win games without them.

Luckily, our owners have backed our manager with people who can create goals.

 

You have to admit though that he doesn’t help himself with his comments in press conferences about the fans, and that his decisions are somewhat baffling, especially around team selection.

He’s got his golden child Bree who will no doubt play RB, he’ll pop KWP over to LB, he’ll pick Bednarek and Lyanco who are extremely poor, and part of me wouldn’t be surprised if he played the likes of Armstrong, Djenepo etc.

He needs to take a risk and play players in their proper positions and go attacking. Not five at the back.

[Dark Munster]

3 hours ago, Nolan said:

Luckily, our owners have backed our manager with people who can create goals.

 

Unfortunately they haven't backed the people who can create goals with a manager who can manage.

[Convict Colony]

Am still sticking with my prediction from yesterday 2-0 to us

[benjii]

10 hours ago, SNSUN said:

Ignore that peeps, my daughter got hold of my phone when I wasn’t looking and decided to type her name. 🙈

Probably one of the better posts on here, TBF.

Edited 4 February, 2023 by benjii

[egg]

The revised predicted team from fantasy scout below. They're predicting a back 3 due to the size of their team, despite it not working against Newcastle. 

My hunch is a back 4 though, with a CB at full back (Lyanco on the right). 

The fantasy scout prediction:

[Convict Colony]

Question - if Enzo Fernandez can come in and play a friday night game for chelsea why cant Paul and Kamaldeen (yes i am on first name terms with them).

I would defo have paul starting and bring him off as required if he is tiring or not at the races, I'd also bring on the ghanian gangster at 60mins to cook the brentford right back and get in 3 nutmegs at least in his 30mins.

Edited 4 February, 2023 by Convict Colony

[egg]

20 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

Question - if Enzo Fernandez can come in and play a friday night game for chelsea why cant Paul and Kamaldeen (yes i am on first name terms with them).

I would defo have paul starting and bring him off as required if he is tiring or not at the races, I'd also bring on the ghanian gangster at 60mins to destroy the brentford right back and get in 3 nutmegs at least in his 30mins.

Work permits. He had one. Our boys haven't.

[Convict Colony]

2 minutes ago, egg said:

Work permits. He had one. Our boys haven't.

Edit nope your right

https://scorenigeria.com.ng/work-permit-stops-onuachu-premier-league-debut/

Edited 4 February, 2023 by Convict Colony

[trousers]

2 minutes ago, Convict Colony said:

Edit nope your right

https://scorenigeria.com.ng/work-permit-stops-onuachu-premier-league-debut/

That short article is based on Jones saying yesterday:

“You’re better off ringing the Home Office to find out. We can keep asking but until we get clarification on their work permits, neither will be involved.”

That doesn't rule out the permits being granted between yesterday's press conference and the game today.

[Charlie Wayman]

9 hours ago, obelisk said:

Jeez! Popped in here for a look and it's full of wrist slashers. Depressing stuff.

Silly comment best kept to yourself