saintant Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 (edited) Not deemed worth a spot on the bench today so how did RM expect to change things when we were chasing a goal? Why can he not see that we need a plan B? We lumped a series of corners and free-kicks into the box and never looked like scoring from them yet we have a 6'7" guy who can head the ball not being given even a sliver of a chance to show what he can do. Edited August 17 by saintant 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 (edited) Not even on the bench. We were getting some good crosses into the box, with no one there capable of taking advantage. What the hell is wrong with RM? Edited August 17 by Dark Munster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 I don't know why he's all of a sudden become good enough. He really isn't. I'm sure he'll be sold for £7mish in the next week or two. 5 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 9 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: I don't know why he's all of a sudden become good enough. He really isn't. I'm sure he'll be sold for £7mish in the next week or two. Sorry, must have missed all those matches where he was given a chance to show what he can do. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry_SFC Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 6 minutes ago, saintant said: Sorry, must have missed all those matches where he was given a chance to show what he can do. You're not wrong. The amount of corners and free kicks that were put into decent areas in that second half and we had absolutely no aerial threat what so ever. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dusic Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 23 minutes ago, Dark Munster said: Not even on the bench. We were getting some good crosses into the box, with no one there capable of taking advantage. What the hell is wrong with RM? I am ITK on this one so can answer for you. He is being sold and has no future at the club. I know that has come out of the blue but thats what I am hearing and that is why he wasn't on the bench. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 Just now, Dusic said: I am ITK on this one so can answer for you. He is being sold and has no future at the club. I know that has come out of the blue but thats what I am hearing and that is why he wasn't on the bench. Well that's fine if we are bringing in someone better. Which I very much doubt, but would be delighted to be proved wrong. If not, it's madness to get rid of our only option at that role. It's not like we're getting a fortune for him, and we desperately need a big CF. The argument is it isn't in RM's style of play, which I consider bollocks, all teams put crosses into the box. Even if he doesn't start, he's an option that can be used later in the match if we're chasing the game. Like today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 1 hour ago, Dusic said: I am ITK on this one so can answer for you. He is being sold and has no future at the club. I know that has come out of the blue but thats what I am hearing and that is why he wasn't on the bench. So why are we putting in corners and free kicks as though he's playing? Crazy. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 2 minutes ago, Dusic said: I am ITK on this one so can answer for you. He is being sold and has no future at the club. I know that has come out of the blue but thats what I am hearing and that is why he wasn't on the bench. There must have been something they saw in Tall Paul when they paid a lot of money for him in January 2023. He really did not get a chance to show what he can do before he was farmed out. If I was RM I would put my arm round him if he can reach and have another look at him. With his height he must bring something to the party. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 (edited) 3 hours ago, Dark Munster said: Not even on the bench. We were getting some good crosses into the box, with no one there capable of taking advantage. What the hell is wrong with RM? nothing. He just doesn't rate him. Me neither. Edited August 17 by Chez 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 5 minutes ago, Chez said: nothing. He just doesn't rate him. Me neither. He's played in 12 games for us mainly when we were struggling. Never been given a fair chance. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergei Gotsmanov Posted August 17 Share Posted August 17 27 minutes ago, saintant said: He's played in 12 games for us mainly when we were struggling. Never been given a fair chance. Quite frankly it is bonkers that they paid £18m for a player and then decided to just write him off after 12 games. Sometimes I think that it would be better to just say to our manager this is what you've got prove yourself. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKsaint Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 Archer and Alcaraz’s two soft headers today showed how we missed Tall Paul 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pwoite Posted August 18 Share Posted August 18 11 hours ago, HKsaint said: Archer and Alcaraz’s two soft headers today showed how we missed Tall Paul He was the wrong person, at the wrong time. He played, badly, in a team performing badly. Since then he has had two summers in which to make an impression, and failed. Unlike Carillo, there is a footballer in there, just not a Southampton footballer. Whether that is ability, attitude or what, I don’t know, but if you lent him a tenner, get it back quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted September 11 Share Posted September 11 (edited) And the saga continues. Trabzonspor President Ertuğrul Doğan: "Onuachu was a player who played for us on loan last season. His club insistently demands around 15 million euros. We offered 8 million euros with bonuses." “Trabzonspor cannot give 15 million euros to a football player right now. A player is 20-22 years old, it is our coach's request, then it will be considered" “However, Trabzonspor cannot make such an offer to a 30-year-old player. The last 2-3 days. The situation is clear. We will wait and see." twitter_1833837768033669335__1726085504990_Tivibu Spor - Ertu rul Do an quot Paul Onuachu hala g nde.mp4 Edited September 11 by Master Bates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 16 hours ago, Master Bates said: And the saga continues. Trabzonspor President Ertuğrul Doğan: "Onuachu was a player who played for us on loan last season. His club insistently demands around 15 million euros. We offered 8 million euros with bonuses." “Trabzonspor cannot give 15 million euros to a football player right now. A player is 20-22 years old, it is our coach's request, then it will be considered" “However, Trabzonspor cannot make such an offer to a 30-year-old player. The last 2-3 days. The situation is clear. We will wait and see." twitter_1833837768033669335__1726085504990_Tivibu Spor - Ertu rul Do an quot Paul Onuachu hala g nde.mp4 14.3 MB · 0 downloads If only we'd followed Trabzonspors logic when we went shopping in January 2023. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 45 minutes ago, S-Clarke said: If only we'd followed Trabzonspors logic when we went shopping in January 2023. Yes, you have to say they have a valid point and the fact that he is nowhere near our first team squad shows we don't value him highly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint86 Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 19 hours ago, Master Bates said: And the saga continues. Trabzonspor President Ertuğrul Doğan: "Onuachu was a player who played for us on loan last season. His club insistently demands around 15 million euros. We offered 8 million euros with bonuses." “Trabzonspor cannot give 15 million euros to a football player right now. A player is 20-22 years old, it is our coach's request, then it will be considered" “However, Trabzonspor cannot make such an offer to a 30-year-old player. The last 2-3 days. The situation is clear. We will wait and see." twitter_1833837768033669335__1726085504990_Tivibu Spor - Ertu rul Do an quot Paul Onuachu hala g nde.mp4 14.3 MB · 0 downloads What's going on here then? 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSA96 Posted September 12 Share Posted September 12 Turkish deadline day tomorrow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Midfield_General Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Turkish window closed. Looks like he’s still with us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 .... .and if he does get some game time sometime.. and gets a few goals, Trabzonspor won't be the only team looking at him and pay the price and we may even get a return of income on the whole deal... At least he seems to be fitter than Ross Stewart. If we say age should be no bar, why isn't he being given a chance?. With his goal-scoring history, should we automatically assume that he won't be able to get goals in the Prem.? To be fair he didn't get a lot of game time , in a team that was bound for relegation and no creativity to speak of . The only person with anything to lose ....is Russell Martin, if he doesn't start getting points on the board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BotleySaint Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 3 hours ago, david in sweden said: .... .and if he does get some game time sometime.. and gets a few goals, Trabzonspor won't be the only team looking at him and pay the price and we may even get a return of income on the whole deal... At least he seems to be fitter than Ross Stewart. If we say age should be no bar, why isn't he being given a chance?. With his goal-scoring history, should we automatically assume that he won't be able to get goals in the Prem.? To be fair he didn't get a lot of game time , in a team that was bound for relegation and no creativity to speak of . The only person with anything to lose ....is Russell Martin, if he doesn't start getting points on the board. After today RM may well give him a go. Archer, BBD and AA all blunt at this level. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HKsaint Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 53 minutes ago, BotleySaint said: After today RM may well give him a go. Archer, BBD and AA all blunt at this level. His header positioning and ball holding is better than all of the above 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
obelisk Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 What's Tall Paul like with penalties? Not that we're likely to get in the opposition penalty area often enough to find out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted September 14 Share Posted September 14 Watch his goals video. He takes penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted September 15 Share Posted September 15 12 hours ago, derry said: Watch his goals video. He takes penalties. ....and we see that .. he isn't totally dependent on scoring with his head . His groundwork isn't bad either. Whilst the Turkish League maybe a bit suspect "quality wise" , the Belgian league he played in has masses of good players / teams ......and the irony is to think that we've had him on the books all the time. After the fiasco of those first four losses ..who else is left that we haven't tried in a strikers role ? Time is running out Russell, what have you got to lose - except your job? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baird of the land Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 Anyone else feel we’re building up to the wheeze of playing him against Man City. Like redknapp hanging the kids out to dry in the cup and going see I told you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 24 minutes ago, Baird of the land said: Anyone else feel we’re building up to the wheeze of playing him against Man City. Like redknapp hanging the kids out to dry in the cup and going see I told you. I reckon it'll be Arsenal. Put him up against Saliba and Gabriel, best aerial centreback pairing in the Prem, and then drop him again for the rest of the season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 11 hours ago, Saint_clark said: I reckon it'll be Arsenal. Put him up against Saliba and Gabriel, best aerial centreback pairing in the Prem, and then drop him again for the rest of the season. RM is too set in his ways. He is a frigging vegan, he will tell everyone whose listening that he knows best and you should follow his idea 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Football Special Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 3 hours ago, OldNick said: RM is too set in his ways. He is a frigging vegan, he will tell everyone whose listening that he knows best and you should follow his idea You say that, but I'm not sure he is, was hanging around a fish and chip shop at the weekend, might have just been having chips and a pickled onion I suppose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 Had to take Smallbone with him though. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 9 hours ago, OldNick said: RM is too set in his ways. He is a frigging vegan, he will tell everyone whose listening that he knows best and you should follow his idea He can shove his vegan football where the sun don't shine. Give me Bournemouth Meat and two veg football every time. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
suewhistle Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 7 hours ago, Football Special said: might have just been having chips and a pickled onion I suppose Lovely! Fried in beef fat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madge Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 7 hours ago, Football Special said: You say that, but I'm not sure he is, was hanging around a fish and chip shop at the weekend, might have just been having chips and a pickled onion I suppose Special guest.. ?? Bloke in the middle looks like me tumble!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 22 hours ago, Football Special said: You say that, but I'm not sure he is, was hanging around a fish and chip shop at the weekend, might have just been having chips and a pickled onion I suppose Trying everything to get our season cooking. 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 24 minutes ago, Holmes_and_Watson said: Trying everything to get our season cooking. 🙂 Well, he already knows how to get battered. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintant Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 1 hour ago, derry said: Well, he already knows how to get battered. Some claim he's had his chips. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakovnetski Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 30 minutes ago, saintant said: Some claim he's had his chips. After Lucy's fish? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 On 01/10/2024 at 12:52, Football Special said: You say that, but I'm not sure he is, was hanging around a fish and chip shop at the weekend, might have just been having chips and a pickled onion I suppose Depends what oil they're cooked in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turkish Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 On 01/10/2024 at 09:45, OldNick said: RM is too set in his ways. He is a frigging vegan, he will tell everyone whose listening that he knows best and you should follow his idea Perhaps that explains the issues, given the intensity of the premier league he's knackered by the 20th minute due to the lack of protein so cant coach the team properly. Would explain our good starts with subsequent 3 goal collapses against Man United, Bournemouth and Brentford recently plus the late goal v Ipswich. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 1 hour ago, Bakovnetski said: After Lucy's fish? Well he was spotted in Winch this morning with her so the lucky sole 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Football Special Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 6 hours ago, Turkish said: Depends what oil they're cooked in. Might have just been an onion for him then, jumbo sausage for Pinder. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roo1976 Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 On 01/10/2024 at 12:52, Football Special said: You say that, but I'm not sure he is, was hanging around a fish and chip shop at the weekend, might have just been having chips and a pickled onion I suppose looks abit like russ has his arms round tom cleverly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhammondo Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 On 01/10/2024 at 08:52, Football Special said: You say that, but I'm not sure he is, was hanging around a fish and chip shop at the weekend, might have just been having chips and a pickled onion I suppose Is that Cheggers front centre? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 (edited) On 01/10/2024 at 12:52, Football Special said: You say that, but I'm not sure he is, was hanging around a fish and chip shop at the weekend, might have just been having chips and a pickled onion I suppose Sutcliffe, recently pictured in the Broadmoor kitchen where he currently helps out as a porter, has recently been issued with a modified hostess trolley that can only move sideways at 0.5 mph to avoid causing concern. Edited October 3 by Miltonaggro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lhammondo Posted October 3 Share Posted October 3 Slightly vague suggestion that he could get a shot at the weekend (no pun intended). He seems to be the only player in the squad who if he was mugged by two uprights draped in net, would be able to actually identify what a goal looks like... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 I'm not sure we'd be winless in 7 if we actually played this guy. Might have at least managed another draw. He needs to play. I feel the same about ABK. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 Where has he been all our lives? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpin4rizeal Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 Actually angers me that we could have lost Alcaraz ABK and talll paul if Martin had his way proper centre forward performance by onuachu today and he has a bit of skill along with the physique .. really should be starting now his knock downs and lay offs are very effective 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lighthouse Posted October 5 Share Posted October 5 6 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said: Actually angers me that we could have lost Alcaraz ABK and talll paul if Martin had his way proper centre forward performance by onuachu today and he has a bit of skill along with the physique .. really should be starting now his knock downs and lay offs are very effective Imagine if we’d lost a player who’s never scored in England, a player who looked lost in the Championship and a player who didn’t want to be here. I don’t think I’d have been able to contain my anger. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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