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18 minutes ago, jimmysaint7 said:

Hes absolute gash!! All this gives him a chance rubbish 🤣🤣

 

Spot on, everyone of his 181 goals, including his 17 last season for Trabzonspor, were flukes.

his 38 assists were just the ball accidentally bouncing off him. 

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Give the lad a fair crack - he can't do any worse than Mara. Despite all the talk about Tall Paul not suiting RM's system we constantly cross hopeful balls into the box despite having nobody up front who can head the ball. Man City and Utd put in plenty of crosses at Wembley today - it is within the rules of the game. One of the finest sights for me in my years supporting Saints was Ron Davies climbing to head home a series of superb goals. 

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2 minutes ago, saintant said:

Give the lad a fair crack - he can't do any worse than Mara. Despite all the talk about Tall Paul not suiting RM's system we constantly cross hopeful balls into the box despite having nobody up front who can head the ball. Man City and Utd put in plenty of crosses at Wembley today - it is within the rules of the game. One of the finest sights for me in my years supporting Saints was Ron Davies climbing to head home a series of superb goals. 

Lowest in the league last year for aerial attacks so that is just not true.

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7 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said:

Lowest in the league last year for aerial attacks so that is just not true.

Stats I've seen show us as having made the 4th most number of crosses in the Chamionship last season.

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1 minute ago, saintant said:

Stats I've seen show us as having made the 4th most number of crosses in the Chamionship last season.

Plus starts show Suguwaras crossing ability is greater than KWP.

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2 minutes ago, saintant said:

Stats I've seen show us as having made the 4th most number of crosses in the Chamionship last season.

I'd have thought you'd know better than argue with theorists. Paine, Sydenham and Big Ron now that was a combination to die for. Besides when was the last time Edozie got a proper cross in. Dibling showed the way.

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Just now, Nolan said:

Plus starts show Suguwaras crossing ability is greater than KWP.

Good point.We are going to need to throw crosses in regularly because we won't often work the ball through Premier League midfields/defences with loads of passes and create chances - even the top sides sometimes struggle with that. If we don't learn quick our forwards will be living on scraps and we've already seen the signs in pre season games.

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2 hours ago, saintant said:

Give the lad a fair crack - he can't do any worse than Mara. Despite all the talk about Tall Paul not suiting RM's system we constantly cross hopeful balls into the box despite having nobody up front who can head the ball. Man City and Utd put in plenty of crosses at Wembley today - it is within the rules of the game. One of the finest sights for me in my years supporting Saints was Ron Davies climbing to head home a series of superb goals. 

Yes, great days, Ron got the goals but in those days we had the one and only Terry Paine with his inch perfect crosses from all angles that's why we had a succession of strikers and goals by the hatful, 100+ one season--can't remember which season. But its a different game now, and not such fun.

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4 hours ago, Nolan said:

 

Spot on, everyone of his 181 goals, including his 17 last season for Trabzonspor, were flukes.

his 38 assists were just the ball accidentally bouncing off him. 

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Really strong leagues those 

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We're not going to completely suddenly flip our playstyle for a wantaway striker who has looked mediocre with his feet every time we've seen him play, as it would be absolutely mental to do so.

If you really want to keep him around as an option to throw on, switch up the tactics and lump balls into the box like we're a Pulis club when we're chasing a game, sure. Ideally we get something close to £10m and never see him again.

Terrible signing, let's move on please...

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His career seems to be following a similar pattern to fellow very tall striker Alexander Sorloth. Both had success at Midtjylland before eventually ending up at low end PL clubs - Palace in Sorloth’s case. Neither scored a goal and both were loaned to Trabzonspor where they resumed their prolific goal scoring. Sorloth then got sold to RB Leipzig and has now found his way to Atletico Madrid via Villarreal. Tall Paul doesn’t seem to be getting the RB Leipzig-esque move but perhaps there’s a second chance for him here instead…

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Whilst we have him, we might as well had use him. 

If anything, he'll give defenders something to think about, but I really just dont know if he suits how we'll want to play. That being said, he's a big lad and can / should be able to hold the ball up well enough. Has proven in multiple (all be it lesser quatlity) leauges, so can clearly put the ball away. 

For the peanuts being offered, we might as well keep him and see if he can offer us anything. 

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14 hours ago, Saint Matty 76 said:

We're not going to completely suddenly flip our playstyle for a wantaway striker who has looked mediocre with his feet every time we've seen him play, as it would be absolutely mental to do so.

If you really want to keep him around as an option to throw on, switch up the tactics and lump balls into the box like we're a Pulis club when we're chasing a game, sure. Ideally we get something close to £10m and never see him again.

Terrible signing, let's move on please...

Like a Pulis club what one that survives in the Prem ?

Saturday he came on and played deeper behind Edozie Armstrong then Dibling .

We didn’t just lump balls into the box then why would we now, who could we get to replace him for 10m if he is only option as Stewart won’t be fit for 2 weeks.

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Sorry, but he's a better shout than Mara (who can't be arsed) or Ross Stewart (who can't walk). Already lost tonnes on him, not exactly blessed with strikers and he does give the option of something different. I'd keep him around.

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25 minutes ago, kitch said:

Sorry, but he's a better shout than Mara (who can't be arsed) or Ross Stewart (who can't walk). Already lost tonnes on him, not exactly blessed with strikers and he does give the option of something different. I'd keep him around.

Agree - he'd be more of a threat for the many crosses we put into the box than the midgets and those who can't head the ball were last season.

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On 11/08/2024 at 19:51, Osvaldorama said:


Despite your sarcasm the sad reality is that he’s the best striker currently at the club. 
 

So we’d be wise to play to his strengths tbh 

It's not sarcasm it real. He's played in some awful leagues and scored goals yes, he should never of been signed as he has never and will never be good for us. I'd love to know what his strengths are as I've seen none so far 

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24 minutes ago, jimmysaint7 said:

It's not sarcasm it real. He's played in some awful leagues and scored goals yes, he should never of been signed as he has never and will never be good for us. I'd love to know what his strengths are as I've seen none so far 

I don't think any of us have seen enough of him to determine what his strengths are.

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Well, many of these goals in the link would not be gifted in the prem, but he can head a ball thats for sure, plus he does display a couple of bits of skill for a tall lad. Maybe worth another chance and perhaps a bit of a longer run than he was allowed last time.

 

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1 hour ago, Saint Billy said:

Well, many of these goals in the link would not be gifted in the prem, but he can head a ball thats for sure, plus he does display a couple of bits of skill for a tall lad. Maybe worth another chance and perhaps a bit of a longer run than he was allowed last time.

 

You're right, the amount of time and space he gets is nothing like he will in the premier league but he does have something about him. I think our asking price is around €10m and I certainly wouldn't be selling him for less than that given what we paid for him but also the fact he's a prolific scorer in these lesser foreign leagues. 

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1 hour ago, Lee On Solent Saint said:

I don't think any of us have seen enough of him to determine what his strengths are.

Well going by what I saw on Saturday he is a focal point we don’t have. His touch isn’t bad and he drew 3 fouls in time he was on.

He played a withdrawn role that allowed Edozie and Armstrong to play up more and it nearly worked but Armstrong scuffed it wide.

I think he is something different that may unsettle some defenders and give Armstrong etc more opportunities and for what €10m worth keeping unless we invest that in a keeper and quality forward.

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10 hours ago, Bad Wolf said:

I think Selles' first game under his temporary charge. We won 1-0 thanks to a JWP special. 

It was a good day out and yes, Tall Paul was one of the best players on the pitch.

I'm not so sure RM has totally given up on him. Getting a few minutes in the last pre-season suggests RM realises our options are very limited up front and he may well bring him on from the subs bench. And with Suguwara showing he can cross the ball, that's not such a dumb idea. 

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1 hour ago, Saint Billy said:

Well, many of these goals in the link would not be gifted in the prem, but he can head a ball thats for sure, plus he does display a couple of bits of skill for a tall lad. Maybe worth another chance and perhaps a bit of a longer run than he was allowed last time.

 

Good in the air and decent with his feet. This guy offers us something different and we should be giving him a chance. I don't understand how RM is happy to give game time to Mara yet Tall Paul has been ignored. He scores goals. Needs some work on his knee slide though - maybe better not to try it on dry pitches.

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37 minutes ago, saintant said:

Good in the air and decent with his feet. This guy offers us something different and we should be giving him a chance. I don't understand how RM is happy to give game time to Mara yet Tall Paul has been ignored. He scores goals. Needs some work on his knee slide though - maybe better not to try it on dry pitches.

Looks very good in those clips.

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We should keep him rather than selling him for less than £10m. £10m you can buy another Mara only.  Tall Paul can at least draw one or two defenders attention while other defenders just ignore Mara.

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If the "window" is later in Turkey ? ..I'd give him the chance to get some game time until the last possible day before giving him away. 

He can seemingly score headers without raising his feet off the ground and has good ground control for a man of his stature.

 

If we still haven't scored a goal in the last 20 minutes of these early Prem. games ..what do we have to lose?   

Maybe he will come good,  if given the chance.      18 million is a lot of money to lose on a bad decision.. 

whichever leagues he's played in , and you can't say all his goals were flukes against poor defences. 

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19 minutes ago, david in sweden said:

If the "window" is later in Turkey ? ..I'd give him the chance to get some game time until the last possible day before giving him away.

September 13th, vs August 30th for England. Two games before the English window closes, one more (the day after that) before the Turkish window closes.

So if we bring in a deadline day loan striker who isn't ready to play vs Brentford the next day, there's the option to play Onuachu and then still sell him to Turkey.

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2 hours ago, chiknsmack said:

September 13th, vs August 30th for England. Two games before the English window closes, one more (the day after that) before the Turkish window closes.

So if we bring in a deadline day loan striker who isn't ready to play vs Brentford the next day, there's the option to play Onuachu and then still sell him to Turkey.

... or keep him,  if he finally turns out to be a worthwhile purchase who can help us.   What player doesn't want to play in the Premier League.? 

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What I find interesting is that nobody is mentioning the one thing that he is brilliant at. Last year when he joined us I watched a video showing all his goals. Apart from penalties nearly all his goals were getting across defenders in the goal area and beating them to either low or head high crosses, he was deadly at that. Only Armstrong and now Brererton-Diaz are remotely able to do that. Che Adams rarely made runs and it's something we could exploit. I don't see him behind the strikers. He really isn't dominant winning balls pumped up to him, he is about beating defenders to the ball. Without an alternative I'd give him a go. With five at the back we don't really need three in midfield because it isolates our two forwards. 3-4-3 makes more attacking sense becoming  5-4-1 defending.

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14 hours ago, Give it to Ron said:

Disagree with Mara possibly off to Lens I think he will be an option off the bench.

Out of interest did you see him on Saturday?

Yes, within a few minutes he was rolling about on the floor randomly! He literally looked like a fish out of water 

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1 hour ago, Dusic said:

He will leave, its just negotiation. 

I agree. 

My only concern is that Trabzonspor have spent about €10m (net) this summer already, which is similar to what they spent (net) last season. Net spend was roughly €0 the summer before that and about €12m the season before that. 

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Im all for giving a good run, modern defenders wont like a big forward up against them. He gives a different dimension to our game. If RM could mould him into our system us fretting about a forward could diminish. I read just now that Ings is on 130k pw at WHU and they will let him g on a free, he has already turned up down apparently. 

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On 13/08/2024 at 15:20, Chez said:

I agree. 

My only concern is that Trabzonspor have spent about €10m (net) this summer already, which is similar to what they spent (net) last season. Net spend was roughly €0 the summer before that and about €12m the season before that. 

AND.. Trrabzonspor are now out of their 3rd rate Euro competition in the first match.

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Last time I saw him play in the PL he was miles off the pace. Ali Dia Mk.2.

That said, I reckon he'd have about 5 or 6 of those goals from the reel in the Prem from crosses and corners. Maybe he's a confidence player. There's no way he starts. Our "impact sub" option is currently Mara, who has been consistently dreadful in every circumstance. If we're going to have a "roll the dice" option from the bench you'd be mad to throw Mara on over Tall Paul.

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