SaintZamboni Posted 11 June, 2023 Share Posted 11 June, 2023 5 hours ago, Chez said: You can sit on the fence. The club can't. Will he score 25 goals next season. Yes or no? Only one player did on the championship this season. You’re setting the bar pretty high. Mid teens is, seemingly, adequate if others contribute . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpsaint Posted 11 June, 2023 Share Posted 11 June, 2023 Blokes a donkey, and we shouldn’t be gambling on whether he can or can’t cut it in the Championship. Sell him and put that money towards a striker that has been a success in that league previously. 2 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a1ex2001 Posted 11 June, 2023 Share Posted 11 June, 2023 (edited) 13 minutes ago, bpsaint said: Blokes a donkey, and we shouldn’t be gambling on whether he can or can’t cut it in the Championship. Sell him and put that money towards a striker that has been a success in that league previously. Who’s going to buy him for anything like what we paid or are you suggesting we should give him away? Tall Paul has a chance of being a successful striker at championship level there are plenty of examples of outstanding championship strikers who have failed to make the step up (Armstrong, Adams, Billy Sharp, Jordan Rhodes etc). Buying someone proven at that level will cost a fortune top level championship strikers don’t come cheap just look at what we paid for Adams and Armstrong! Edited 11 June, 2023 by a1ex2001 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hodgey Posted 11 June, 2023 Share Posted 11 June, 2023 Could be a Raziak type poacher, but the concerns over his fitness are even higher in the Championship. You don’t really want to have to sub someone after 60m unless they are something special. Depends on what we end up being, if we are a team who creates loads of chances it might work as he can clearly finish looking at his record, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 11 June, 2023 Share Posted 11 June, 2023 8 hours ago, SaintZamboni said: Only one player did on the championship this season. You’re setting the bar pretty high. Mid teens is, seemingly, adequate if others contribute . fair enough, I just used 25 because Sir Rickie scored about that number in the championship. That is a high bar. Maybe 20 goals would have been more realistic, but Tella got what, 17? 15 goals in 46 games isn't exactly setting the world on fire. Che scored 22 for Brum, Armstrong 28 for Blackburn. Piroe scored 22 and 19 the last two seasons for a very average Swansea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 11 June, 2023 Share Posted 11 June, 2023 Selles had tall Paul at left midfield in one game. We haven’t exactly played to his strengths. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osvaldorama Posted 11 June, 2023 Share Posted 11 June, 2023 He’s literally been given 1 half chance since he signed for us. I have absolutely no idea how good or bad he is; and neither does any other saints fan (unless you’ve watched a lot of Belgium football.) impossible to have an opinion on this one. We just have to trust that the muppets in charge that see him on the training ground can make an informed decision. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 11 June, 2023 Share Posted 11 June, 2023 I just don’t think he fits with the style of play or tactics Martin will employ…too immobile, although he can see a good pass now and again. One things for sure, there appears to be a lot goals scored in the Championship (I’m sure some stato will correct me if I’m wrong), so chancing our arm on a striker who has lost his way seems a big risk. Despite all of this, we’ll probably end up keeping him another season to ‘replace’ the departing Che. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 11 June, 2023 Share Posted 11 June, 2023 6 minutes ago, Osvaldorama said: He’s literally been given 1 half chance since he signed for us. I have absolutely no idea how good or bad he is; and neither does any other saints fan (unless you’ve watched a lot of Belgium football.) impossible to have an opinion on this one. We just have to trust that the muppets in charge that see him on the training ground can make an informed decision. Too many decisions have been based on performances on the training ground. There is a big gulf between there and a real game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 11 June, 2023 Share Posted 11 June, 2023 I feel sorry for him. He's come here, presumably been told that he's the player we want to score the goals to get us out the shit, sees the manager who supposedly wanted him basically sack himself the day he made his debut, then, gets fed scraps, hits the woodwork what? twice? Barely sees a cross other than that stuck on his head and is asked to play a style that doesnt suit him in a league he doesnt know ! Hardly set up to succeed was he ? 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S-Clarke Posted 11 June, 2023 Share Posted 11 June, 2023 (edited) I'm of the opinion that he simply hasn't had a chance, I find it hard to be overly critical or overly positive about him - I have no idea how he plays, and neither did we as a squad I don't think. I'm sure he'll do well at a club where he can play again, as he's always scored goals. Edited 11 June, 2023 by S-Clarke 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 11 June, 2023 Share Posted 11 June, 2023 He can hardly control a football and is knackered after 30 mins 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 11 June, 2023 Share Posted 11 June, 2023 He scores most of his goals, and there have been plenty, getting across defenders and being first to a cross or pass in the penalty area. Selles was a twat trying to use him in a press and neutralising him. Get him into the box with pace out wide and plenty of service and he'll get goals for us or sombody else. 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted 11 June, 2023 Share Posted 11 June, 2023 6 minutes ago, derry said: He scores most of his goals, and there have been plenty, getting across defenders and being first to a cross or pass in the penalty area. Selles was a twat trying to use him in a press and neutralising him. Get him into the box with pace out wide and plenty of service and he'll get goals for us or sombody else. Exactly this. He has not been given a chance to be effective because of Selles tactics. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Munster Posted 11 June, 2023 Share Posted 11 June, 2023 23 hours ago, Chez said: Selles immediately recognised he wasn't good enough for the Prem, which is why he didn't pick him. And I don't blame him. Poor man's Kev Francis. You can see that in his youtube video. Yes he scored some goals, but he just ain't good enough for the Prem. It annoys me so much that someone actually got paid to scout players and they came up with him. In fairness that doesn't mean much, since Selles was clueless. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSA96 Posted 24 June, 2023 Share Posted 24 June, 2023 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSAINT Posted 24 June, 2023 Share Posted 24 June, 2023 Bet it’s a bloody loan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Garrett Posted 24 June, 2023 Share Posted 24 June, 2023 1 hour ago, CSA96 said: I’d take a bag of crisps for him, get rid, awful awful footballer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 24 June, 2023 Share Posted 24 June, 2023 10 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: I’d take a bag of crisps for him, get rid, awful awful footballer People said the same when Crouch was here at first. Haven't really seen him to really give an opinion 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 24 June, 2023 Share Posted 24 June, 2023 8 minutes ago, OldNick said: People said the same when Crouch was here at first. Haven't really seen him to really give an opinion yes we have. He can hardly control a ball is is shattered after 20 minutes 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunglasses Ron Posted 24 June, 2023 Share Posted 24 June, 2023 24 minutes ago, Saint Garrett said: I’d take a bag of crisps for him, get rid, awful awful footballer You need to be more specific. Walkers no, McCoys maybe, Monster Munch definitely! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 24 June, 2023 Share Posted 24 June, 2023 6 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: yes we have. He can hardly control a ball is is shattered after 20 minutes Haven't really seen much of him. The bloke scored quitea few goals elsewhere and will take time to adjust 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 24 June, 2023 Share Posted 24 June, 2023 1 minute ago, OldNick said: Haven't really seen much of him. The bloke scored quitea few goals elsewhere and will take time to adjust He is shite. There is a reason he will be leaving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 24 June, 2023 Share Posted 24 June, 2023 4 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: He is shite. There is a reason he will be leaving. Lets see how he goes, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 24 June, 2023 Share Posted 24 June, 2023 If Martin's system can play to his strengths, then maybe. If not, then getting as close to what we paid would be the goal there, with all parties moving on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitey Grandad Posted 24 June, 2023 Share Posted 24 June, 2023 What a panic buy he was. The last turkey in the shop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 24 June, 2023 Share Posted 24 June, 2023 52 minutes ago, AlexLaw76 said: He is shite. Mönchengladbach apparently disagree. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlexLaw76 Posted 24 June, 2023 Share Posted 24 June, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, badgerx16 said: Mönchengladbach apparently disagree. we disagreed in January. Edited 24 June, 2023 by AlexLaw76 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 24 June, 2023 Share Posted 24 June, 2023 5 hours ago, CSA96 said: He’d be absolutely made for them, any of them - schnell, schnell! 🫏 🦒 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 24 June, 2023 Share Posted 24 June, 2023 Whose Moi signed for then ? He won't want to be out of pocket from July so let me guess some shitty Turkish (not the poster) team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dellman Posted 24 June, 2023 Share Posted 24 June, 2023 Big Paul could do well in Championship. After the slow slow possession build up a battering ram to wake us up could be just what we need 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint Posted 24 June, 2023 Share Posted 24 June, 2023 Will we make more than half of what we paid for him? If so that's a bonus. Like the phrase the "race for" Tall Paul. Sounds like he won't be going out on loan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarehamSaintJames Posted 24 June, 2023 Share Posted 24 June, 2023 How can people call Onuachu awful. If he’d played every game and not scored then yes I can see why. He didn’t choose to not play. He wasn’t picked. He was signed for a manager for a certain style of football and subsequently that style was tossed out the window two weeks later. It was a bizarre signing all round but calling him crap and awful is a bit far fetched given he played about forty minutes since January. Che Adams and Adam Armstrong have been fucking abysmal (if we’re using this Onuachu logic), and yet there are people on social media saying they’re going to smash it in the Championship next season. 😂 Good luck to Onuachu wherever he goes next, but I imagine it’ll only be a loan, or a hefty cut price fee, probably like Orsic. 28 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Convict Colony Posted 25 June, 2023 Share Posted 25 June, 2023 6 hours ago, FarehamSaintJames said: How can people call Onuachu awful. If he’d played every game and not scored then yes I can see why. He didn’t choose to not play. He wasn’t picked. He was signed for a manager for a certain style of football and subsequently that style was tossed out the window two weeks later. It was a bizarre signing all round but calling him crap and awful is a bit far fetched given he played about forty minutes since January. Che Adams and Adam Armstrong have been fucking abysmal (if we’re using this Onuachu logic), and yet there are people on social media saying they’re going to smash it in the Championship next season. 😂 Good luck to Onuachu wherever he goes next, but I imagine it’ll only be a loan, or a hefty cut price fee, probably like Orsic. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eurosaint Posted 25 June, 2023 Share Posted 25 June, 2023 I get that he hardly played but when he did his first touch was on a par with a dumper truck 😊 ! Having said that we are going to be in a lower league which may afford him a chance to shine but it really will be down to the manager to see if he can fit him into a regular system or perhaps even groom him as an 'impact sub' !! Personally I have my doubts but it might be worth keeping him rather than taking a whacking loss !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 25 June, 2023 Share Posted 25 June, 2023 🤷🏻♂️Get the lanky shite out of our club. 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 25 June, 2023 Share Posted 25 June, 2023 20 hours ago, Convict Colony said: Whose Moi signed for then ? He won't want to be out of pocket from July so let me guess some shitty Turkish (not the poster) team Swear I saw him at the drive through in Hedge End. Apparently his work out of the kitchen is outstanding. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 26 June, 2023 Share Posted 26 June, 2023 17 hours ago, saint lard said: 🤷🏻♂️Get the lanky shite out of our club. What a silly comment to make. Surprised at you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ_TOAST Posted 26 June, 2023 Share Posted 26 June, 2023 Absolute garbage hopefully we get rid. Sickening how much we wasted on him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waylander Posted 26 June, 2023 Share Posted 26 June, 2023 2 hours ago, DJ_TOAST said: Absolute garbage hopefully we get rid. Sickening how much we wasted on him. And then didn't give him any chance to play to his strength. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spyinthesky Posted 30 June, 2023 Share Posted 30 June, 2023 Wonder how Tall Paul got on with the pre season 'Bleep' tests? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 30 June, 2023 Share Posted 30 June, 2023 1 hour ago, spyinthesky said: Wonder how Tall Paul got on with the pre season 'Bleep' tests? Haha, that was going through my mind to comment on too. We need someone on Tall Paul watch from the trees around Staplewood. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabrice Fernandes no.1 fan Posted 30 June, 2023 Share Posted 30 June, 2023 1 hour ago, spyinthesky said: Wonder how Tall Paul got on with the pre season 'Bleep' tests? I imagine it is really easy for him, if he turns sideways and spreads his legs wide he's at both ends anyway 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 30 June, 2023 Share Posted 30 June, 2023 Saints accept loan bid with option to buy for Onuachu from Schalke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osvaldorama Posted 30 June, 2023 Share Posted 30 June, 2023 8 minutes ago, Master Bates said: Saints accept loan bid with option to buy for Onuachu from Schalke Watch him get 20 odd goals now 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 30 June, 2023 Share Posted 30 June, 2023 8 minutes ago, Master Bates said: Saints accept loan bid with option to buy for Onuachu from Schalke aren't Schalke in the German second division? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 30 June, 2023 Share Posted 30 June, 2023 On 11/06/2023 at 11:08, Wade Garrett said: Selles had tall Paul at left midfield in one game. We haven’t exactly played to his strengths. Basketball? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 30 June, 2023 Share Posted 30 June, 2023 45 minutes ago, Master Bates said: Saints accept loan bid with option to buy for Onuachu from Schalke https://insidefutbol.com/2023/06/30/club-not-as-far-down-line-with-swoop-for-southampton-man-as-claimed-fierce-competition/608865/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miltonaggro Posted 30 June, 2023 Share Posted 30 June, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, spyinthesky said: Wonder how Tall Paul got on with the pre season 'Bleep' tests? Narrowly beaten by one of the ground staff at Staplewood using a ride on lawnmower on an adjacent pitch. Edited 30 June, 2023 by Miltonaggro 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Duckhunter Posted 30 June, 2023 Share Posted 30 June, 2023 5 hours ago, Osvaldorama said: Watch him get 20 odd goals now They will be fucking odd if he gets them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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