Paul Onuachu

[pimpin4rizeal]

3 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Imagine if we’d lost a player who’s never scored in England, a player who looked lost in the Championship and a player who didn’t want to be here. I don’t think I’d have been able to contain my anger.

Well Paul got pretty much no game time to score in England .. Alcaraz lost in the championship in exaggerating too Martin just preferred stuey, Alcaraz was actually premier league proven and a exciting young talent .. as for ABK not wanting to be here last year we was in the championship . Maybe he didn’t wanna be here then fair enough 

[Suhari]

He was good today. Simple as that.

Under a different manager, him up top with some pace near him, and runners from midfield, would see us do so much better.

I know that's not 'hipster beard, skinny jeans, excel stats, trendy', or arguably easy on the eye, but it damn well wins points.

Which are somewhat required if we want to stay up.

[Galway saint]

Watched this from the arsenal west side and he was good - not great but a proper target man who could hold  up the ball and was surprisingly skillfull. far better than stewart and god know why he started above Tp. has to start next game 

[Lighthouse]

4 minutes ago, pimpin4rizeal said:

Well Paul got pretty much no game time to score in England .. Alcaraz lost in the championship in exaggerating too Martin just preferred stuey, Alcaraz was actually premier league proven and a exciting young talent .. as for ABK not wanting to be here last year we was in the championship . Maybe he didn’t wanna be here then fair enough 

However you dress it up, he’s never scored for us. Alcaraz looked poor in most of the games I saw him in last season, then he went to Juve and was poor, then we sold him to South America for £15m because nobody in Europe thought our ‘exciting talent’ was worth that. ABK looked decent under Ralph but has gone missing ever since, nobody came battering down the door for him in summer either.

There are many valid criticisms of Martin, not playing those three isn’t one of them.

[Dark Munster]

33 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Imagine if we’d lost a player who’s never scored in England, a player who looked lost in the Championship and a player who didn’t want to be here. I don’t think I’d have been able to contain my anger.

You still think TP's as bad as the Donkey?

Edited October 5 by Dark Munster

[Dark Munster]

19 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

However you dress it up, he’s never scored for us. Alcaraz looked poor in most of the games I saw him in last season, then he went to Juve and was poor, then we sold him to South America for £15m because nobody in Europe thought our ‘exciting talent’ was worth that. ABK looked decent under Ralph but has gone missing ever since, nobody came battering down the door for him in summer either.

There are many valid criticisms of Martin, not playing those three isn’t one of them.

Alcaraz I'd agree. ABK the jury's still out. 

You won't agree, but there's no excuse for the way RM has been treating TP. We've been crying out for a target man who can hold the ball up, and since SR didn't bring someone in he is our only option (Stewart has shown nothing so far and is a sick note anyway).

Edited October 5 by Dark Munster

[Dark Munster]

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Edited October 5 by Dark Munster

[harvey]

He's never been given a proper run.......he'll do well if given a chance and played to his strengths.

[saintant]

36 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

Imagine if we’d lost a player who’s never scored in England, a player who looked lost in the Championship and a player who didn’t want to be here. I don’t think I’d have been able to contain my anger.

You forgot to add that he's a player who has never been given much game time, has been continually ignored by Russ even though others are not performing, who has rarely been used to his strengths even in the few minutes he's played, has scored many great goals in his career and is a striker who none of us including you, RM and the tea lady know whether he can do a job at this level or not.

[Harry_SFC]

12 minutes ago, saintant said:

You forgot to add that he's a player who has never been given much game time, has been continually ignored by Russ even though others are not performing, who has rarely been used to his strengths even in the few minutes he's played, has scored many great goals in his career and is a striker who none of us including you, RM and the tea lady know whether he can do a job at this level or not.

He's certainly more of a handful that Stewart who despite costing less, was possibly an even worse signing than Onuachu. 

[inspectorfrost]

53 minutes ago, Lighthouse said:

However you dress it up, he’s never scored for us. Alcaraz looked poor in most of the games I saw him in last season, then he went to Juve and was poor, then we sold him to South America for £15m because nobody in Europe thought our ‘exciting talent’ was worth that. ABK looked decent under Ralph but has gone missing ever since, nobody came battering down the door for him in summer either.

There are many valid criticisms of Martin, not playing those three isn’t one of them.

 

and today he showed way more than most of our strikers. The way he was used here when he first arrived we may as well have had Erling Haaland playing at left back.

It actually reminded me of 20 years ago when Peter Crouch was completely frozen out the side, then 'arry came in, used him as a target man and it wasnt far off keeping us up.

Use him the right way and TP is one of those strikers that can cause panic and uncertainty in the opponent's box just with hs presence. Not saying he's guaranteed to have the same impact as Crouch did but he could potentially make a sizable contribution this season based on his cameo today.

His goal scoring record elsewhere doesn't need dressing up

Edited October 5 by inspectorfrost

[Turkish]

1 hour ago, Suhari said:

He was good today. Simple as that.

Under a different manager, him up top with some pace near him, and runners from midfield, would see us do so much better.

I know that's not 'hipster beard, skinny jeans, excel stats, trendy', or arguably easy on the eye, but it damn well wins points.

Which are somewhat required if we want to stay up.

Skinny jeans is so 2023 pal, it’s baggy now with Adidas Sambas for the hipster look 

[Mboto Gorge]

1 hour ago, Lighthouse said:

However you dress it up, he’s never scored for us. Alcaraz looked poor in most of the games I saw him in last season, then he went to Juve and was poor, then we sold him to South America for £15m because nobody in Europe thought our ‘exciting talent’ was worth that. ABK looked decent under Ralph but has gone missing ever since, nobody came battering down the door for him in summer either.

There are many valid criticisms of Martin, not playing those three isn’t one of them.

What a load of absolute bollocks that choosing not to play the only centre forward we have with a very good good goalscoring record on his cv over a number of years around Europe, isn’t a fault of the managers. Name me another club who when right down the bottom of the league with 1 point and struggling like hell to score goals, would’ve continued to leave out a 6ft 7 centre forward with a goal record of 1 in 2 games in his career.  

[derry]

8 minutes ago, inspectorfrost said:

 

and today he showed way more than most of our strikers. The way he was used here when he first arrived we may as well have had Erling Haaland playing at left back.

It actually reminded me of 20 years ago when Peter Crouch was completely frozen out the side, then 'arry came in, used him as a target man and it wasnt far off keeping us up.

Use him the right way and TP is one of those strikers that can cause panic and uncertainty in the opponent's box just with hs presence. Not saying he's guaranteed to have the same impact as Crouch did but he could potentially make a sizable contribution this season based on his cameo today.

His goal scoring record elsewhere doesn't need dressing up

When the ball hit the bar off THB/AA he was causing mayhem behind them. Defenders were struggling because he towered over them. Start him from now on as a CF with a partner. If that means 4-4-2 so be it. Ramsdale Sugawara/KWP THB Bednarek Taylor, Dibling Downes Fernandes Armstrong, Onuachu Archer with no tippy tappy crap.

[Lighthouse]

25 minutes ago, Mboto Gorge said:

What a load of absolute bollocks that choosing not to play the only centre forward we have with a very good good goalscoring record on his cv over a number of years around Europe, isn’t a fault of the managers. Name me another club who when right down the bottom of the league with 1 point and struggling like hell to score goals, would’ve continued to leave out a 6ft 7 centre forward with a goal record of 1 in 2 games in his career.  

Well if you ignore the PL, Adam Armstrong. Nobody is complaining about leaving him out.

[Suhari]

1 hour ago, Turkish said:

Skinny jeans is so 2023 pal, it’s baggy now with Adidas Sambas for the hipster look 

Cheers pal. I'll get onto the Shien app now. I needed a new vest-cropped-top anyway.

Edited October 5 by Suhari

[Lord Duckhunter]

1 hour ago, inspectorfrost said:

we may as well have had Erling Haaland playing at left back.

He’s shite, played over 100 senior games before he’d scored in England. 

[davefizzy14]

Would like to see Onuachu start in the next run of games. Did well today when he came on. Good hold up play and strength plus is a big aerial threat in the opposition box. Needs to be given an opportunity.

[ally_uk]

Lad deserves a few games to see what he is actually capable of. 

 

 

[Mboto Gorge]

4 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

Well if you ignore the PL, Adam Armstrong. Nobody is complaining about leaving him out.

Ah yes , You mean the Adam Armstrong who’s played about 30 games at prem level and has looked out of his depth , unable to impact games at all…..compared to Onuachu who’s had about 3 starts and about 20 mins combined as sub at this level. Right, got ya. 

[saintant]

4 hours ago, Lighthouse said:

Well if you ignore the PL, Adam Armstrong. Nobody is complaining about leaving him out.

We pretty much know what AA can do because he's had plenty of games to show us. A lot of us just want to see Tall Paul given a decent run in the team so that we can judge him based on more than the odd cameo appearance here and there. Do we know what RMs view of his contribution today was? Has he even mentioned him post match?

[OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint]

36 minutes ago, Mboto Gorge said:

Ah yes , You mean the Adam Armstrong who’s played about 30 games at prem level and has looked out of his depth , unable to impact games at all…..compared to Onuachu who’s had about 3 starts and about 20 mins combined as sub at this level. Right, got ya. 

Must admit, never thought he is the answer to our goalscoring woes, but given our options, him and Archer at least offer something. A couple of years ago I remember TP had a great game at Stamford Bridge. Unlike AA, he's not totally out of his depth in the premier league and I think we'll be seeing more of him in upcoming games.

[HKsaint]

RM is a genius. He finally uncovered Tall Paul from our sizeable squad and converted him into a goalscorer.  He and archer will form a formidable partner and lead us to the glory. 

[stknowle]

1 hour ago, HKsaint said:

RM is a genius. He finally uncovered Tall Paul from our sizeable squad and converted him into a goalscorer.  He and archer will form a formidable partner and lead us to the glory. 

Here’s hoping you are right HK my old pal.

[LuckyNumber7]

10 hours ago, saintant said:

We pretty much know what AA can do because he's had plenty of games to show us. A lot of us just want to see Tall Paul given a decent run in the team so that we can judge him based on more than the odd cameo appearance here and there. Do we know what RMs view of his contribution today was? Has he even mentioned him post match?

Onuachu was an entertaining performer, is he a serious option for you? 

RM: Yeah, definitely. He has to be, otherwise he's not on the bench. He's trained so well after a summer of disruption.

There was will he be here, won't he be here? It was tough for him to deal with, I think, but then since the window's shut it's just a different beast.

He's been trained so well, always makes his mark in training physically and has got a really good record wherever he's been, apart from here in those six months.

Last year he went out on loan for several different reasons, finance, playing in a top league, us having Che Adams and these guys that we knew what they could do.

Paul was lesser known to us and this summer was what it was and now he's here. We have to use him if we think he can help us and I definitely think he can.

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/24632731.every-word-southamptons-martin-said-arsenal-defeat/

[Saint_clark]

Give him 4 or 5 starts in a row to properly test him, don't just drop him in here and there.

[Toadhall Saint]

Great little cameo yesterday - definitely adds something different. Surprised with his touch which was very good.

[beatlesaint]

36 minutes ago, LuckyNumber7 said:

Onuachu was an entertaining performer, is he a serious option for you? 

RM: Yeah, definitely. He has to be, otherwise he's not on the bench. He's trained so well after a summer of disruption.

There was will he be here, won't he be here? It was tough for him to deal with, I think, but then since the window's shut it's just a different beast.

He's been trained so well, always makes his mark in training physically and has got a really good record wherever he's been, apart from here in those six months.

Last year he went out on loan for several different reasons, finance, playing in a top league, us having Che Adams and these guys that we knew what they could do.

Paul was lesser known to us and this summer was what it was and now he's here. We have to use him if we think he can help us and I definitely think he can.

https://www.dailyecho.co.uk/sport/24632731.every-word-southamptons-martin-said-arsenal-defeat/

Thats great but its no good having Tall Paul giving us something different when RM will not try anything different, fuck me we still fanny about at the back with 10 mins left when we are losing games !!

Edited October 6 by beatlesaint

[Harry_SFC]

Not sure where the notion comes from that he can't play with his feet. Looked like he played some neat passes yesterday after good hold up play 

[danjosaint]

And a couple of cheeky step overs that got him away from his marker 

[Galway saint]

When you see him in the flesh you can see what an imposing figure he is and I surprised how nimble he was. Given the obvious lack of a focal point in attack so far this season, seems odd that it took until the 60th minute or our 7th game to give him a go.

[Lord Duckhunter]

I don’t know the ins and outs of it, but why wasn’t he given an opportunity last season. If you can come on against Arsenal away from home and not look out of your depth, then surely you could have done a job in the championship. Obviously, we were promoted without him, but maybe he could have been moulded into the team & fitted into a system for this season As I say, I don’t know the ins and outs, and maybe he refused to play lower down. But I wouldn’t bet against Lego not fancying him from the moment he walked in the door.
 

Next game will be very telling, he deserves a chance in a winnable game but that will involve the arrogant twat changing, so I doubt it’ll happen.More likely, he get chucked on at City proving legos point that he’s not the answer. 

[M271]

I wonder if RM will see TP as a Stewart replacement starting forward or a 60 minute sub if we are chasing a game? Or revert to preferring not to use him unless absolutely necessary.

[derry]

21 minutes ago, M271 said:

I wonder if RM will see TP as a Stewart replacement starting forward or a 60 minute sub if we are chasing a game? Or revert to preferring not to use him unless absolutely necessary.

It shouldn't be his decision. A new manager with I'll look at the squad and give it a shape that gets the best out of the players attitude is what's needed.  Not a 600 - 5 yd backwards and sideways in our own half possession obsessive. Just get rid of him before he wastes any more games. Seven is too many already.

[OnceaSaintalwaysaSaint]

36 minutes ago, M271 said:

I wonder if RM will see TP as a Stewart replacement starting forward or a 60 minute sub if we are chasing a game? Or revert to preferring not to use him unless absolutely necessary.

Leicester, Man City, Everton are the next three league games and 4 points is a minimum requirement.

Ross Stewart has managed to show in his few games this season that his touch is only worsened by Brereton Diaz which is not want we need from a hold up player who's also laying off the ball. Tall Paul, on the other hand, showed in his cameo yesterday that he can control the ball. So even if Ross Stewart is fit in a couple of weeks, I'd still be playing Tall Paul against Leicester. I think M271 has summed up RM's view of TP up to now and this needs to change.

[Ted Bates Statue]

Any love for Tall Paul this week? I don't think I have ever commented about him before, but my stance until recently was that we had three managers look at him including Nathan Jones who signed him, and none of them thought he was a genuine option up front in the PL so I had written him off. But it sounds like he had another decent cameo appearance so I expect he will be starting games for us before long.

[Oldandtired]

I did notice with him on Saturday when he was doing step overs his feet must have been about six feet apart.

 

The clue’s in his nickname I guess.

[disconnect]

One of our few players with genuine strength (just as he's so much bigger than everyone else)! He'll make things happen, a Onuachu / Archer partnership could be interesting.

[OldNick]

He is our saviour, been calling for him for a long time. Like Crouch he is seen to be tarred by the same brush, with people thinking he is only there for headers when he is decent on the ground. He also is strong , giving the opposition centre backs a torrid time. He made a good flick on to send Kameldeen through

Play him in the middle wit Archer and Adam on each wing. Give Tyler a rest out of the firing line (cant expect to hang your hat on an 18yr old )

[Lord Duckhunter]

Shame Lego head didn’t have him against Newcastle when we’re constantly attacking & they were defending deep. 
 

Wouldn’t surprise me if the clown starts him on Sat, the least appropriate game for him to be effective. 

Edited October 22 by Lord Duckhunter

[beatlesaint]

17 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Shame Lego head didn’t have him against Newcastle when we’re constantly attacking & they were defending deep. 
 

Wouldn’t surprise me if the clown starts him on Sat, the least appropriate game for him to be effective. 

I wouldn't be at all surprised either tbh.

[OldNick]

1 hour ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

Shame Lego head didn’t have him against Newcastle when we’re constantly attacking & they were defending deep. 
 

Wouldn’t surprise me if the clown starts him on Sat, the least appropriate game for him to be effective. 

I think it is a very appropriate game. Man City dont like it up them and he will be a handful for an defence. Those games where we needed a late goal and he wasnt utilised!! Not only in attack but defending set pieces as well

[OldNick]

2 minutes ago, OldNick said:

I think it is a very appropriate game. Man City dont like it up them and he will be a handful for an defence. Those games where we needed a late goal and he wasnt utilised!! Not only in attack but defending set pieces as well

tdmickey3 do you have any other imojis than that. 

[Lord Duckhunter]

23 hours ago, OldNick said:

I think it is a very appropriate game. Man City dont like it up them

We’ve got to get in their half first. 

[OldNick]

2 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said:

We’ve got to get in their half first. 

Doesn't take much with a bit of brain, guile, and a whopping great punt

[OldNick]

On saturday I felt there was a real lift and expectation once TP came on. Whilst it is not purist stuff, it certainly adds to the entertainment. I absolute dislike tippy tappy football. Yes play it on the floor as well as getting the ball upfront quickly. Im sure we wont do anything playing the Pep way, but roughing them up a bit and putting pressure on their centre backs would give up a better chance. Still get well beaten but why not?? 

[Harry_SFC]

35 minutes ago, OldNick said:

On saturday I felt there was a real lift and expectation once TP came on. Whilst it is not purist stuff, it certainly adds to the entertainment. I absolute dislike tippy tappy football. Yes play it on the floor as well as getting the ball upfront quickly. Im sure we wont do anything playing the Pep way, but roughing them up a bit and putting pressure on their centre backs would give up a better chance. Still get well beaten but why not?? 

He gave their CB's something to think about, that's for sure. His link up play is a lot better than I thought it was. You can tell he's got a decent footballing brain, he's just slow and gangly. 

[Convict Colony]

I fully expect pep to go over board about Martin and the philosophy etc etc and won't surprise me it they 2-0 up and his team just passed it around for a bit.

Id still rather have tall Paul and archer in if possible though 

Edited October 23 by Convict Colony

[Gloucester Saint]

3 hours ago, OldNick said:

Doesn't take much with a bit of brain, guile, and a whopping great punt

Well we’ve got the last of those in the dugout. Oh sorry, thought you said…

Edited October 23 by Gloucester Saint