AlexLaw76 Posted 26 December, 2024 Posted 26 December, 2024 Evidently allowed us to play further up the pitch in general. Decent touch too. criminal that we left him out for so long 9
Football Special Posted 26 December, 2024 Posted 26 December, 2024 I probably need to watch the highlights, but at the game today he should have had a hat trick Came bloody close just needs a bit of luck 1
Fatboy40 Posted 26 December, 2024 Posted 26 December, 2024 1 hour ago, AlexLaw76 said: criminal that we left him out for so long "we" had no choice, but Russel Martin did, which says it all.
Football Special Posted 26 December, 2024 Posted 26 December, 2024 Hats off to the bloke behind me who changed words to the song Onuacho Onuacho Never mind his pole How about a goal Onuacho 👏
Turkish Posted 26 December, 2024 Posted 26 December, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Football Special said: I probably need to watch the highlights, but at the game today he should have had a hat trick Came bloody close just needs a bit of luck He appears to have mastered being able to head the ball gently exactly 1 foot wide from anywhere in the box, he is world class it. Edited 26 December, 2024 by Turkish 1 1
davefizzy14 Posted 26 December, 2024 Posted 26 December, 2024 (edited) Onuachu was so good today 😊 his first goal for us is coming, hopefully on Sunday 🤞 Edited 26 December, 2024 by davefizzy14 2
EBS1980 Posted 26 December, 2024 Posted 26 December, 2024 The biggest question is who plays along side him. He needs legs and pace which would suggest Archer but surprised he didn’t come on. 2
macca155 Posted 26 December, 2024 Posted 26 December, 2024 I enjoyed watching him today but I wouldn't get too excited. I'm sure he's working on a transfer move in January. Besikiltas seem to be interested. He's clearly one of our few marketable players and I can't see the board resisting that. He did well today but the likes of Beatie, Sir Ritchie, or Pelle would have buried at least one of those chances. He may yet prove to have that edge, but we haven't seen it yet. Still a disgrace that RM didn't play him. 3
jamesfp1 Posted 26 December, 2024 Posted 26 December, 2024 When this guy scores it's going to be utterly jubilant. 5
Saint_clark Posted 27 December, 2024 Posted 27 December, 2024 7 hours ago, EBS1980 said: The biggest question is who plays along side him. He needs legs and pace which would suggest Archer but surprised he didn’t come on. I agree Archer should be alongside him but it's not for lack of pace. A couple of times he sprinted past players with the ball, his long legs mean his strides carry him a lot further. 1
Holmes_and_Watson Posted 27 December, 2024 Posted 27 December, 2024 From a scrap in a previous game cameo he hit the bar with a very decent header. He had better chances yesterday, and he and we need that sharpness back. He has done it for other clubs, and we also got glimpses of him being more than just someone who heads it. He was a focal point for Ramsdale on several occasions. Varying success, and we'll need to look at giving him options when he gets it. He held the ball well and got some decent passes off too. I thought he was going to tire out quickly. But with him getting more than the tacticless sub on from Martin, he actually looked better, with the extra minutes, before fading along with everyone else. Martin was never going to change. He felt that TP wasn't ever going to be a good match for his system, and SR couldn't get a deal to move him on that suited all parties. It's not great for anyone. I'm pleased for him on a personal level after coming in for a Jones team, just as he was out the door. It's been very frustrating, and hopefully he'll be able to thrive under this system. His heavy involvement in lots of good things yesterday was an excellent start. 6
Sarnia Cherie Posted 27 December, 2024 Posted 27 December, 2024 On 24/11/2024 at 19:18, davefizzy14 said: Onuachu was superb today, he's earned a run of starts now. He was a breath of fresh air today and gave the team another dimension. However, to be superb he really needs to score from some of the chances he had. He works hard on the pitch but his goal scoring isn't on a par with that. Hopefully it changes soon. We need someone who can score. 4
LiberalCommunist Posted 27 December, 2024 Posted 27 December, 2024 At last. We have a new option. Doesn’t have to be perfect, it represents a long forgotten additional plan. As each day passes I find something more I disliked about RM’s time here. 4
Tommy Posted 27 December, 2024 Posted 27 December, 2024 You watched a different game to me, what I saw was a team playing forward which created chances for a centre forward, and that centre forward performed exactly as could be forecasted with those chances. i honestly just don’t see the player some of you do and it bewilders me. 1 1
Roger Posted 27 December, 2024 Posted 27 December, 2024 45 minutes ago, Tommy said: You watched a different game to me, what I saw was a team playing forward which created chances for a centre forward, and that centre forward performed exactly as could be forecasted with those chances. i honestly just don’t see the player some of you do and it bewilders me. Funny how your view is different to pretty much everyone’s. You obvious know more. The classic look at me post.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 27 December, 2024 Posted 27 December, 2024 Bizarre that he wasn’t used in the Championship. He’s quite good at getting hold of the ball and laying it off, so would have fitted into a possession based system, as well as giving us the option to knock it long occasionally. Good option defending set pieces as well. I’m sure Lego’s out of control ego stoped him using TP. 6
a1ex2001 Posted 27 December, 2024 Posted 27 December, 2024 19 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Bizarre that he wasn’t used in the Championship. He’s quite good at getting hold of the ball and laying it off, so would have fitted into a possession based system, as well as giving us the option to knock it long occasionally. Good option defending set pieces as well. I’m sure Lego’s out of control ego stoped him using TP. Given his none saints goal scoring record I would expect him to be a solid goal scorer in the championship doesn’t mean he will make it in the prem but not using him in the championship was dense. 2
Gloucester Saint Posted 27 December, 2024 Posted 27 December, 2024 Just now, a1ex2001 said: Given his none saints goal scoring record I would expect him to be a solid goal scorer in the championship doesn’t mean he will make it in the prem but not using him in the championship was dense. It’s the fact the club signed a player for £10m instead who can barely walk and was nowhere near fit instead that makes it even worse. Really lucky that AA and CA stayed fit pretty much all season.
SambaMaverick Posted 27 December, 2024 Posted 27 December, 2024 I think he's crap. Che Adams was/is twice the player. I'd sell him for any price in January and get a more mobile target man to play alongside Archer. 3
Harry_SFC Posted 27 December, 2024 Posted 27 December, 2024 9 minutes ago, SambaMaverick said: I think he's crap. Che Adams was/is twice the player. I'd sell him for any price in January and get a more mobile target man to play alongside Archer. I wouldn't say he's immobile, just gangly. Looked surprisingly quick to me, before he faded. 1 1
SambaMaverick Posted 27 December, 2024 Posted 27 December, 2024 16 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said: Good today. Unbelievable that the Lego headed cock didn’t use him in the championship. Would have frightened sides to death & bagged as many goals as Adam fucking Armstrong, no bother. He’d then hit the ground running this season, instead of playing catch up at Xmas. Mismanagement at its finest… Here’s the thing though, had TP been banging them in during August or had lego done his fucking job and picked him, would we have signed The glass man? We basically loaned him out and signed Ross Stewart. Ffs…. That is just gross rewriting of history and pretty disrespectful to AA, no matter how shit he is at the PL level. There's nothing to suggest Onuachu can hit a cow's arse with a fucking banjo so far, so how have you worked that out? 1
Lord Duckhunter Posted 27 December, 2024 Posted 27 December, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, SambaMaverick said: That is just gross rewriting of history and pretty disrespectful to AA How can suggesting he’ll score goals in the championship be a “gross rewriting of history”, because of the managers ego, there is no history. He’s looked more of a threat in a 1 premier league 90mins than Adam fucking Armstrong has in 80 odd games. Disrespectful, yes. He’s fucking done nothing except run around, giving the ball away and being offside. It’s hard to respect those skills, especially when we’ve got so many points less than fucking Ipswich. . Edited 27 December, 2024 by Lord Duckhunter
SambaMaverick Posted 27 December, 2024 Posted 27 December, 2024 1 minute ago, Lord Duckhunter said: How can suggesting he’ll score goals in the championship be a “gross rewriting of history”, because of the managers ego, there is no history. He’s looked more of a threat in a 1 premier league 90mins than Adam fucking Armstrong has in 80 odd games. Disrespectful, yes. He’s fucking done nothing except run around, giving the ball away and being offside. It’s hard to respect those skills, especially when we’ve got so many points less than fucking Ipswich. . Just sounds a bit flippant to what AA did for us last season. We all know he's not a Premier League player, it's obvious, but TP isn't either.
Saint_clark Posted 27 December, 2024 Posted 27 December, 2024 It's funny seeing people who wrote Onuachu off after a handful of appearances in a shit Prem side two years ago try now to desperately cling onto that opinion and deny the obvious, that he's come into the side and given us an extra dimension. 3
Lord Duckhunter Posted 27 December, 2024 Posted 27 December, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, SambaMaverick said: Just sounds a bit flippant to what AA did for us last season. We all know he's not a Premier League player, it's obvious, but TP isn't either. I wouldn’t say it’s obvious at all. He’s looked more dangerous than Armstrong & BBD every day of the week. His build up and hold up play is far superior to Archers. Nobody knows if he’ll get on a scoring run once one goes in. The jury is still out, because of Lego ball he’s never been given a decent run. Edited 27 December, 2024 by Lord Duckhunter 7
SambaMaverick Posted 27 December, 2024 Posted 27 December, 2024 49 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: It's funny seeing people who wrote Onuachu off after a handful of appearances in a shit Prem side two years ago try now to desperately cling onto that opinion and deny the obvious, that he's come into the side and given us an extra dimension. And it's funny to see you pat yourself on the back after he's missed about three sitters. Well done you. Is the extra dimension that he's an extra player who also can't score for toffee? 1
Saint_clark Posted 28 December, 2024 Posted 28 December, 2024 Forgetting the debate about his ability for a second, can somebody please come up with a better (less racist) chant than the Viva Onuachu one so when he scores we don't get embarrassed by that ringing out? 2
benjii Posted 28 December, 2024 Posted 28 December, 2024 8 minutes ago, Saint_clark said: Forgetting the debate about his ability for a second, can somebody please come up with a better (less racist) chant than the Viva Onuachu one so when he scores we don't get embarrassed by that ringing out? He's Tall He's Paul He looks after the ball Tall Paul, Tall Paul Or.... Score a goal Onuachu We will love you more than you will know Oh, oh, oh
benjii Posted 28 December, 2024 Posted 28 December, 2024 Onuachu, wooo-oo-oo Onuachu, wooo-oo-oo He's from Owerri His legs are smooth and not hairy Onuachu, woo-oo-oo
Saint_clark Posted 28 December, 2024 Posted 28 December, 2024 26 minutes ago, Master Bates said: Like a new signing..... Picked for the very first time? Like a neeew signing... 1
HKsaint Posted 28 December, 2024 Posted 28 December, 2024 I think we still need someone who is quick enough to pick up a loose ball from Tall Paul’s header. Hopefully Archer or Armstrong can do this.
benjii Posted 28 December, 2024 Posted 28 December, 2024 8 minutes ago, HKsaint said: I think we still need someone who is quick enough to pick up a loose ball from Tall Paul’s header. Hopefully Archer or Armstrong can do this. Shit song. 4
SaintNewForest Posted 28 December, 2024 Posted 28 December, 2024 I don't hold it against RM for not using him in the championship; that requires TP wasting to play a season at that level which I understand he didn't ... This season is another story, and ignoring him for so long is ridiculous. 1
Fabrice29 Posted 28 December, 2024 Posted 28 December, 2024 1 minute ago, SaintNewForest said: I don't hold it against RM for not using him in the championship; that requires TP wasting to play a season at that level which I understand he didn't ... This season is another story, and ignoring him for so long is ridiculous. He wanted to leave this season too.
Highfield Saint Posted 28 December, 2024 Posted 28 December, 2024 🎶 feed taul Paul and he will score feed taul Paul and he will score
Roo1976 Posted 28 December, 2024 Posted 28 December, 2024 On 26/12/2024 at 23:50, macca155 said: I enjoyed watching him today but I wouldn't get too excited. I'm sure he's working on a transfer move in January. Besikiltas seem to be interested. He's clearly one of our few marketable players and I can't see the board resisting that. He did well today but the likes of Beatie, Sir Ritchie, or Pelle would have buried at least one of those chances. He may yet prove to have that edge, but we haven't seen it yet. Still a disgrace that RM didn't play him. But equally, what is a disgrace is that the board persisted in watching KEEP BALL week after week with NO progress, where they blind? torn with loyalty? what,but in the games gone since we seem to move the game plan forward quicker. As i said before tongue in cheek we didn't need to be fit as fuck because we never played out of our own half for long periods, and showed no desire or ambition to do so even in desperate times,and the forwards just played walking football. I'm sure someone will go back to the drawing board and re-invent 4-4-2 and think wow, this is all good and everyone will take it onboard again,but its a simple game crushed by ambition. 3
Mr X Posted 28 December, 2024 Posted 28 December, 2024 Controversial opinion he isn't cut out for the premier league... So he has that in common with the rest bar a couple of our players Good at holding the ball up and the occasional good pass but terrible in the final third
OldNick Posted 28 December, 2024 Posted 28 December, 2024 26 minutes ago, Mr X said: Controversial opinion he isn't cut out for the premier league... So he has that in common with the rest bar a couple of our players Good at holding the ball up and the occasional good pass but terrible in the final third Controversial as you're wrong. Get the first and more will come. Hes snatching a bit as he so wants it 1
OldNick Posted 28 December, 2024 Posted 28 December, 2024 On 27/12/2024 at 10:10, SambaMaverick said: I think he's crap. Che Adams was/is twice the player. I'd sell him for any price in January and get a more mobile target man to play alongside Archer. Yeah theres loads of those out there who will be gagging to play for a side who are likely to be relegated
Lord Duckhunter Posted 28 December, 2024 Posted 28 December, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Fabrice29 said: He wanted to leave this season too. He’s directly quoted in the echo, looks like that’s down to the arrogance of Lego as well. “SAINTS forward Paul Onuachu admitted he "wanted to leave" in the summer as he felt he would not receive a chance under former boss Russell Martin.” Martin clearly didn’t fancy him as a player, so it’s weird you’re still defending the fraud. Edited 28 December, 2024 by Lord Duckhunter 3
Mk1J Posted 28 December, 2024 Posted 28 December, 2024 5 hours ago, Saint_clark said: Forgetting the debate about his ability for a second, can somebody please come up with a better (less racist) chant than the Viva Onuachu one so when he scores we don't get embarrassed by that ringing out? New Kids on the Block, The Right Stuff: Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh Oh, oh, oh, oh Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh ONUACHU!
Fabrice29 Posted 28 December, 2024 Posted 28 December, 2024 51 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: He’s directly quoted in the echo, looks like that’s down to the arrogance of Lego as well. “SAINTS forward Paul Onuachu admitted he "wanted to leave" in the summer as he felt he would not receive a chance under former boss Russell Martin.” Martin clearly didn’t fancy him as a player, so it’s weird you’re still defending the fraud. "I just wanted to leave where I could play more. But he actually spoke to me saying he wanted me to stay" - If we're directly quoting from the echo. I just don't like the rewriting of history. Martin wanting to replace Onuachu and Onuachu wanting to leave this summer are both perfectly reasonable considering the lad has failed to perform for us (up until now if you like). Just because he's worked his way back into contention and put in a couple of decent performances (without yet scoring a goal) I don't think that means anyone is a fraud for not rating Onuachu before now. If Martin is a fraud for that then so are a lot of people in this thread over the past two seasons.
Lord Duckhunter Posted 28 December, 2024 Posted 28 December, 2024 8 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said: If Martin is a fraud for that then so are a lot of people in this thread over the past two seasons. He’s a fraud for more than that. The worse permanent manager in premier league history, his treatment of TP, playing the likes of BBD and Adam Armstrong over him this season, is just one of his many shortcomings…. 3
Fabrice29 Posted 28 December, 2024 Posted 28 December, 2024 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: He’s a fraud for more than that. The worse permanent manager in premier league history, his treatment of TP, playing the likes of BBD and Adam Armstrong over him this season, is just one of his many shortcomings…. On the basis that we're discussing TP, his treatment of him as per his own comments is telling him he will get a chance here if he stays, but player seeks a move away and is therefore down the pecking order behind last seasons top scorer and a new signing who scored some goals in the PL last season, something TP didn't do for us the season before. Its hardly the biggest crime in the world and like you say there is plenty of other reasons to have a pop at RM but this really isn't one of them. Again, lets not rewrite history based on a couple of decent games now. Edited 28 December, 2024 by Fabrice29 2 1
OldNick Posted 28 December, 2024 Posted 28 December, 2024 Just now, Fabrice29 said: "I just wanted to leave where I could play more. But he actually spoke to me saying he wanted me to stay" - If we're directly quoting from the echo. I just don't like the rewriting of history. Martin wanting to replace Onuachu and Onuachu wanting to leave this summer are both perfectly reasonable considering the lad has failed to perform for us (up until now if you like). Just because he's worked his way back into contention and put in a couple of decent performances (without yet scoring a goal) I don't think that means anyone is a fraud for not rating Onuachu before now. If Martin is a fraud for that then so are a lot of people in this thread over the past two seasons. Martin only gave him game time at the last knockings. He has fallen on his sword by being absolutely unable to change his conviction of his possession based football. He deserved to be sacked in the end due It was heresy in his eyes the thought of playing a ball high into the box and I recall that one game we had the chance to play the ball from a set play in when we were 1 down in injury time and the ball went back to Ramsdale. It is interesting to see that the clubs who are playing the ball around the back are now seemingly struggling. It has been worked out, especially against the less skilled teams at the lower reaches of the league. It is a fad and unless you have extremely highly skilled players throughout the team it is hard to put into practice.
Weston Super Saint Posted 28 December, 2024 Posted 28 December, 2024 37 minutes ago, Fabrice29 said: On the basis that we're discussing TP, his treatment of him as per his own comments is telling him he will get a chance here if he stays, How did that go for the first 16 games? From the two differing stand points, you'd have to say TP's looks like it was the correct one, that as long as Martin was in charge he'd have no chance of getting game time... 3
Fabrice29 Posted 28 December, 2024 Posted 28 December, 2024 35 minutes ago, Weston Super Saint said: How did that go for the first 16 games? From the two differing stand points, you'd have to say TP's looks like it was the correct one, that as long as Martin was in charge he'd have no chance of getting game time... I would again point out he was behind players that had produced for the manager the season before and players the manager had signed because they'd produced in this very league before, unlike TP. Anyway, we're going around in circles. I'm not convinced the performances now of TP are evidence that he should have played earlier, especially considering his performances for us before but some of you might think they are, I just don't remember people clamouring for it before and feel like people are rewriting history.
Fabrice29 Posted 28 December, 2024 Posted 28 December, 2024 1 hour ago, OldNick said: Martin only gave him game time at the last knockings. He has fallen on his sword by being absolutely unable to change his conviction of his possession based football. He deserved to be sacked in the end due It was heresy in his eyes the thought of playing a ball high into the box and I recall that one game we had the chance to play the ball from a set play in when we were 1 down in injury time and the ball went back to Ramsdale. It is interesting to see that the clubs who are playing the ball around the back are now seemingly struggling. It has been worked out, especially against the less skilled teams at the lower reaches of the league. It is a fad and unless you have extremely highly skilled players throughout the team it is hard to put into practice. Playing the ball around the back being a fad and teams that do it are struggling is on a par with suggesting we should take a 10 point deduction, presumably in order to ultimately get more points for stupidity.
USaintA Posted 28 December, 2024 Posted 28 December, 2024 To the tune of "Born Free" by Matt Monro... Tall Paul As tall as an oak tree He really hates Pompey Tall Paul, please score a goal 3
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