Miltonaggro Posted 22 June, 2024 Posted 22 June, 2024 17 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said: Nobody’s going to bust a gut to get on the end of a cross that doesn’t come over. It’s not as if Sulemana looks up at any time. He just stops and waits. No discernible football brain, literally runs out of runway and then the grey matter fails him. 4
Chez Posted 22 June, 2024 Posted 22 June, 2024 I like him, but I am a sucker for pacey and skillfull attackers. I'm happy to give him another season and look forward to seeing him run one or two fullbacks ragged next season. 6
Convict Colony Posted 23 June, 2024 Posted 23 June, 2024 I think people need to realise we wont have the ball as much as during the champs, pacey fast and skillful players on the counter are always welcome. Gives me an excuse to post this exquisite example. 4
Midfield_General Posted 23 June, 2024 Posted 23 June, 2024 4 hours ago, Convict Colony said: I think people need to realise we wont have the ball as much as during the champs, pacey fast and skillful players on the counter are always welcome. Gives me an excuse to post this exquisite example. Nice goal, that one. Have you got the reel that includes all his other highlights? What do you mean ‘that is the reel that includes all his other highlights’? 1 3
SNSUN Posted 23 June, 2024 Posted 23 June, 2024 He'd be part of my squad for the new season - if only because I'm hoping for some pace off the bench towards the end of games to poop the opposition up. He take the Djenepo spot. Easy to forget he was bumped from Danish to French to English leagues before he even turned 21. He's moved for big money, had injuries and been part of our relegated side - and he didn't kick up a fuss about moving last summer (that I remember). He's been all fart and no shit so far (well, maybe one of those farts where a little nugget of poo comes out as a surprise but those are very rare) but I think as a bench option he's fine. That said, Everton and I think it was Fulham wanted him last summer so I wonder if that interest is still there.
Saint Fan CaM Posted 23 June, 2024 Posted 23 June, 2024 15 hours ago, Chez said: I like him, but I am a sucker for pacey and skillfull attackers. I'm happy to give him another season and look forward to seeing him run one or two fullbacks ragged next season. Me too, however RM’s system generally does nothing to embolden players like him to run anyone ragged except himself. At the moment his problem is not knowing when or how to release the ball unless it’s backwards which to be honest makes him pretty damn useless as an attacking forward. Contrast him with Fraser who gets his head up and delivers some dangerous balls into the box.
Convict Colony Posted 23 June, 2024 Posted 23 June, 2024 5 hours ago, Midfield_General said: Nice goal, that one. Have you got the reel that includes all his other highlights? What do you mean ‘that is the reel that includes all his other highlights’? Haters hate upwards
FarehamSaintJames Posted 23 June, 2024 Posted 23 June, 2024 Someone like Sulemana could be an impactful player this season, we’ll have a lot less of the ball and we’ll have to play on the counter attack. That said he has been piss poor and underwhelming all season.
Jeremy Corbyn Posted 24 June, 2024 Posted 24 June, 2024 He's obviously been generally poor and his output last season was abysmal for his ability relative to the league. However, he is one player we have who clearly has the ability for the prem so you never know it could come together.
skintsaint Posted 24 June, 2024 Posted 24 June, 2024 Will probably end up in Turkey on loan late in the transfer window. 1
derry Posted 3 September, 2024 Posted 3 September, 2024 Apparently there is still no approval with suspicion the paperwork wasn't handed in before the deadline. He may still be a Saints player. 1
pimpin4rizeal Posted 23 December, 2024 Posted 23 December, 2024 Not sure if anyone else agrees but I think we could see a really different sulamana under juric.. slow possession pass pass pass does not suit his game at all but if we are playing more direct on the break stuff him and dibling both can beat players for fun and have potential to be scary on the break .. hoping juric can revitalise the likes of ks Paul and Abk 4
LiberalCommunist Posted 23 December, 2024 Posted 23 December, 2024 Clean slate for everyone. No more mates club. I want to see performances now. Play your way in and play your way out. Jack-take a bib. 3
StrangelyBrown Posted 23 December, 2024 Posted 23 December, 2024 1 hour ago, pimpin4rizeal said: Not sure if anyone else agrees but I think we could see a really different sulamana under juric.. slow possession pass pass pass does not suit his game at all but if we are playing more direct on the break stuff him and dibling both can beat players for fun and have potential to be scary on the break .. hoping juric can revitalise the likes of ks Paul and Abk I've never seen any evidence that he's aggressive off the ball so I can't believe he's going to be effective pressing - I'd like to be proven wrong, but I'm not holding out any hope that he's going to fit the Juric system
washsaint Posted 23 December, 2024 Posted 23 December, 2024 Yet another one that posters seem to have developed a different view on since Martin left. Sulemana, bar one meaningless game, has shown absolutely nothing to suggest he is a decent player. Yes he's fast bu he has no footballing brain and always makes the wrong decision. Him and Tall Paul were terrible buys 7 1
Maggie May Posted 23 December, 2024 Posted 23 December, 2024 Sulemana is a dreadful footballer. Sorry. 8
Football Special Posted 23 December, 2024 Posted 23 December, 2024 24 minutes ago, washsaint said: Yet another one that posters seem to have developed a different view on since Martin left. Sulemana, bar one meaningless game, has shown absolutely nothing to suggest he is a decent player. Yes he's fast bu he has no footballing brain and always makes the wrong decision. Him and Tall Paul were terrible buys January 2023 , a day of transfer business that was so bad we're still feeling the affects of it nearly two years on, quite incredible incompetence 10
Matty's Caddy Posted 23 December, 2024 Posted 23 December, 2024 8 minutes ago, Football Special said: January 2023 , a day of transfer business that was so bad we're still feeling the affects of it nearly two years on, quite incredible incompetence Deja vu
Turkish Posted 23 December, 2024 Posted 23 December, 2024 39 minutes ago, washsaint said: Yet another one that posters seem to have developed a different view on since Martin left. Sulemana, bar one meaningless game, has shown absolutely nothing to suggest he is a decent player. Yes he's fast bu he has no footballing brain and always makes the wrong decision. Him and Tall Paul were terrible buys And that one game was a dead rubber where we were already relegated. He’s done absolutely in two years the premier league or championship. 2
Matty's Caddy Posted 23 December, 2024 Posted 23 December, 2024 19 minutes ago, Football Special said: January 2023 , a day of transfer business that was so bad we're still feeling the affects of it nearly two years on, quite incredible incompetence I’d love to be sat round that table discussing transfers, seeing who sees what in some of these players. there seems to be no accountability to spunking £20M on a pile of shite. then they do it again!!!! TWENTY MILLION POUNDS!!! PLUS WAGES!!!! Who’s losing theirs jobs Dragan? it’s the most important job at our club and we fail time and time again. 2
Football Special Posted 23 December, 2024 Posted 23 December, 2024 37 minutes ago, Matty's Caddy said: I’d love to be sat round that table discussing transfers, seeing who sees what in some of these players. there seems to be no accountability to spunking £20M on a pile of shite. then they do it again!!!! TWENTY MILLION POUNDS!!! PLUS WAGES!!!! Who’s losing theirs jobs Dragan? it’s the most important job at our club and we fail time and time again. Reminds me of Christmas shopping , I have months to plan and get it right but end up panic buying a load of shite in the final 24 hours That particular transfer day would have been Rasmus and Nathan Jones in full banter mode 1
St. Ciervo Posted 24 December, 2024 Posted 24 December, 2024 I recall when he was signed someone from his international team tweeted that we had signed a great footballer if we could be patient. Not an exact quote, but close enough. I knew we had signed up for a headache at that moment. I did not expect an aneurysm. Lets just hope Juric can get his career back on track.
Osvaldorama Posted 24 December, 2024 Posted 24 December, 2024 11 hours ago, pimpin4rizeal said: Not sure if anyone else agrees but I think we could see a really different sulamana under juric.. slow possession pass pass pass does not suit his game at all but if we are playing more direct on the break stuff him and dibling both can beat players for fun and have potential to be scary on the break .. hoping juric can revitalise the likes of ks Paul and Abk No chance. He’s a Sunday league player. Shocking purchase 6 1
derry Posted 26 December, 2024 Posted 26 December, 2024 Like Onuachu we have just wasted his lightning pace. When was the last time we played a decent through ball in front of him, never. He has to be played in on the break, If he's expected to face his own goal then turn and attack a consolidated defence he's wasting his time. I think the only way we can use him is to bring him in alongside Onuachu and out of the way of the wing backs. Quicker than Armstrong and Archer and stronger than Archer. They might make a pair. Power plus pace. 1 1
Lord Duckhunter Posted 26 December, 2024 Posted 26 December, 2024 11 minutes ago, derry said: Like Onuachu we have just wasted his lightning pace. They might make a pair. Power plus pace. I’d rather play Oscar Pistorius, he may not be as quick as in his prime, but his ball control would be fucking better. How anyone can watch that embarrassing performance today and think he deserves another chance is beyond me. Absolutely abysmal, and that’s and understatement. 9
SaveloyMush Posted 26 December, 2024 Posted 26 December, 2024 15 minutes ago, derry said: Like Onuachu we have just wasted his lightning pace. When was the last time we played a decent through ball in front of him, never. He has to be played in on the break, If he's expected to face his own goal then turn and attack a consolidated defence he's wasting his time. I think the only way we can use him is to bring him in alongside Onuachu and out of the way of the wing backs. Quicker than Armstrong and Archer and stronger than Archer. They might make a pair. Power plus pace. I saw no evidence of pace today; perhaps the splinters in his arse have affected his legs? On today's (admittedly brief) showing, he has nothing else to offer. 5
Whitey Grandad Posted 26 December, 2024 Posted 26 December, 2024 44 minutes ago, Lord Duckhunter said: I’d rather play Oscar Pistorius, he may not be as quick as in his prime, but his ball control would be fucking better. How anyone can watch that embarrassing performance today and think he deserves another chance is beyond me. Absolutely abysmal, and that’s and understatement. I didn’t think he was that good. Did we really waste over £20m on this sack of fertiliser? With that money we could have binned Martin months ago. 4
Whitey Grandad Posted 26 December, 2024 Posted 26 December, 2024 1 minute ago, Harry_SFC said: Absolute disgrace when he came on. Killed any chance that we had of a fightback. 1
Badger Posted 26 December, 2024 Posted 26 December, 2024 24 minutes ago, Whitey Grandad said: I didn’t think he was that good. Did we really waste over £20m on this sack of fertiliser? With that money we could have binned Martin months ago. We really have a knack for unearthing them don't we ? 4
lambtiss Posted 26 December, 2024 Posted 26 December, 2024 19 minutes ago, Harry_SFC said: Absolute disgrace when he came on. And not for the first time. The only reason that I can see for the club playing him is in the vain hope that he scores a goal and we can sell him in January. I was disappointed that Archer didn't come on for Armstrong who was anonymous throughout 1
beatlesaint Posted 26 December, 2024 Posted 26 December, 2024 I’m not gonna apologise for this but he is one of the worst players I’ve ever seen in a Saints shirt and I’ve seen a fair few. Unlike most of the others who at least put some effort in, he does not. He’s a fkin disgrace. 4
Pamplemousse Posted 26 December, 2024 Posted 26 December, 2024 It was like playing with 10 men. And the foul he gave away at the end was just typical. 3
Toussaint Posted 26 December, 2024 Posted 26 December, 2024 18 minutes ago, lambtiss said: And not for the first time. The only reason that I can see for the club playing him is in the vain hope that he scores a goal and we can sell him in January. I was disappointed that Archer didn't come on for Armstrong who was anonymous throughout Someone said Archer was ill on another thread
lambtiss Posted 26 December, 2024 Posted 26 December, 2024 44 minutes ago, Toussaint said: Someone said Archer was ill on another thread He was on the bench
Saint-Michael Posted 26 December, 2024 Posted 26 December, 2024 3 hours ago, Pamplemousse said: It was like playing with 10 men. And the foul he gave away at the end was just typical. I thought exacly the same. 1
Whitey Grandad Posted 26 December, 2024 Posted 26 December, 2024 Was it Bednarek that had to tell him to go and play out on our left wing instead of loitering in midfield? He didn’t seem to have a clue what he should be doing. 2
Convict Colony Posted 27 December, 2024 Posted 27 December, 2024 9 hours ago, Lord Duckhunter said: I’d rather play Oscar Pistorius, he may not be as quick as in his prime, but his ball control would be fucking better. How anyone can watch that embarrassing performance today and think he deserves another chance is beyond me. Absolutely abysmal, and that’s and understatement. Agree, pistorious had a couple of shots on him and hits the target as well. 4
Gloucester Saint Posted 27 December, 2024 Posted 27 December, 2024 14 hours ago, Whitey Grandad said: I didn’t think he was that good. Did we really waste over £20m on this sack of fertiliser? With that money we could have binned Martin months ago. If you wanted a metaphor for Rasmus Ankerson’s contribution to Southampton Football Club, the signing of Kamaldeen Sulemana is very apt. 3
Harry_SFC Posted 27 December, 2024 Posted 27 December, 2024 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Gloucester Saint said: If you wanted a metaphor for Rasmus Ankerson’s contribution to Southampton Football Club, the signing of Kamaldeen Sulemana is very apt. Yep. Terrible panic signing on the part of Ankersen. I highly doubt any research went into that signing at all. We also massively overpaid for Tall Paul but at least there was some logic behind that one. Edited 27 December, 2024 by Harry_SFC 2
Roo1976 Posted 27 December, 2024 Posted 27 December, 2024 14 hours ago, Badger said: We really have a knack for unearthing them don't we ? Sadly we do. BTW what makes a good scout?. Many clubs claim they have a good system of weeding through the dross ,but we seem somehow capable of buying the dross. Whats the criteria that the scouts get assigned to look out for?,and more importantly where does the responsibility of the Sporting Director fall ?. What is a sporting director? from what ive seen in close ups on TV when they pan to our former one Wilcox, he seems embarrassed by whats happening on the pitch ,are they bought on his say so or looked over by the scouting team and then (this is where the due diligence seems to fail ) we splash the cash,and make a bog standard footballer a multimillionaire,and then expect the normal average fan to happy clap poor performances,fucking baffles me. Yet we seem incapable of bucking this trend WHY. Its not rocket science to have a system of trust in a scouting and coaching setup is it? or are we expecting too much from experts in the know?,where as us as fans are thought way too stone age to have thought hes good, where in fact we've managed to buy yet another waste of someones money. i remember way back when we bought Paul Moody from Waterlooville in the 90s, that was a big surprise as i was living in Cowplain at the time and it was a big thing, local lad and all ,but again never took off. Im sure there are lots of very similar occurrences that all clubs go through,now though maybe alot of hype is on good agents and all the trappings that go with them,shame. 1991 1
Obstacle1 Posted 27 December, 2024 Posted 27 December, 2024 Difficult to judge him on brief cameos but he appears to have got worse. I think the fact that he's quick means people think he might come good, but he really doesn't seem to have any kind of football brain 3
Lighthouse Posted 27 December, 2024 Posted 27 December, 2024 2 hours ago, Turkish said: the Ghanaian Steve De Ridder. Nah, I liked Steve.
Daft Kerplunk Posted 27 December, 2024 Posted 27 December, 2024 Seems to me that the hope for him was that he’d be like Sadio Mane, but other than the colour of his skin, what exactly is there to compare? It’s like saying because I’m white that I’m going to be like Brad Pitt. For me, Sulemana is an example of stat based scouting and what we seem to have prioritised above whether they’re any good at football or not. He’s reasonably quick on the ground so would’ve looked like he could work in an athletic system but stats don’t tell the full story of a player. Mark Cavendish has said he wouldn’t make it in the stat obsessed era that is now pro cycling because that cannot see someone’s ability to read situations, react to them, lead them or assess simple will to win. Our football scouting department needs to be rebalanced in favour of football people, not analysts and sport scientists who may never have kicked a ball. 3
beatlesaint Posted 27 December, 2024 Posted 27 December, 2024 1 hour ago, Lighthouse said: Nah, I liked Steve. He was also much better than this guy 1
sfc4prem Posted 27 December, 2024 Posted 27 December, 2024 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lighthouse said: Nah, I liked Steve. https://youtu.be/o8lspXBvJA4?si=Ei7AG1mm7F6r7cJz Edited 27 December, 2024 by sfc4prem
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