Everton 1-2 Saints - Match Thread

[trousers]

[Toadhall Saint]

Both new lads on the bench - hopefully get some game time.

[Saint_clark]

Hmm.

[SotonianWill]

hopefully edozie has a right go at coleman, or even djenepo/ orsic if either come on. 

[DT]

Che and Edozie up front. Not sure about that. Why reward Mara after that goal by dropping him? No Adam Armstrong either. I don’t get it at all. 

[LGTL]

I suppose dropping the two goalscorers from a 2-0 win against the league champions is the right call 🤷‍♂️ 

[danjosaint]

May well be a 4231 which would make more sense

[DT]

Djenepo also rewarded for his man of the match performance by getting dropped

[Dragon_man]

Does look odd. Stick with arguably a losing line up with new signings and those with confidence on the bench. 

[woodsaint1]

Im not sure the Everton fans will be loving 5 at the back against us

[Wsaint]

  On 14/01/2023 at 14:00, Winnersaint said:

Sorry can't see us getting anything here. Should pan out exactly as Turks has suggested. Maybe with added misery of a sending off.

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That's the spirit! 😂

Would've liked to see Mara keep his place after scoring but happy with the team besides that. Looking forward to seeing Orsic and Alcarez off the bench.

[macca155]

  On 14/01/2023 at 14:03, DT said:

Che and Edozie up front. Not sure about that. Why reward Mara after that goal by dropping him? No Adam Armstrong either. I don’t get it at all. 

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I doubt Armstrong or Mara have 90 minutes in them after Wednesday. May be a good decision by Jones

[Bad Wolf]

Djenepo dropped - Everyone whinges. Yet every time he's announced as starting, he's also met with negative whinges, even when he's previously had a good game.

[Chez]

  On 14/01/2023 at 14:00, trousers said:

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I thought Armstrong might retain his place and perhaps even Mara too, but I'm sure they will figure at some point.

[Toadhall Saint]

  On 14/01/2023 at 14:05, macca155 said:

I doubt Armstrong or Mara have 90 minutes in them after Wednesday. May be a good decision by Jones

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That’s how I’m looking at it - they gave everything on Wds

[miserableoldgit]

  On 14/01/2023 at 14:04, LGTL said:

I suppose dropping the two goalscorers from a 2-0 win against the league champions is the right call 🤷‍♂️ 

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NJ did say that he would be up until 3.00am after the City game studying Everton games....so who knows?

[egg]

Surprised by that. I'd have kept the same starting eleven. 

[davefizzy14]

Good team picked by NJ. Very strong bench. Hoping both Orsic and Alcaraz come on second half - COYR

[woodsaint1]

  On 14/01/2023 at 14:03, DT said:

Che and Edozie up front. Not sure about that. Why reward Mara after that goal by dropping him? No Adam Armstrong either. I don’t get it at all. 

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You're really questioning why theres no Adam Armstrong 😂

[saintscottofthenortham]

Have to admit, I’m really disappointed with that line up. 
 

Che, who has been truly awful, straight back in after Mara was as lively as you could ask… that’s harsh and brave.

Elyou, who the managers seem to love FFS, back in for Adarma who had his best game for us and scored here last year. 

two changes I think didn’t need to be made but happy to be proved wrong. Monumental day for us and these players haven’t been doing the job, so I’d have liked to have seen the lads who done so well on Wednesday rewarded.

Che especially needs to start bucking his ideas up, for me. No more excuses for sloppy finishing. 

[Chez]

  On 14/01/2023 at 14:05, macca155 said:

I doubt Armstrong or Mara have 90 minutes in them after Wednesday. May be a good decision by Jones

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I'm slightly concerned about Lyanco and JWP being able to do the same. Lyanco looked knackered after City and JWP put in a serious shift.

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[Sheaf Saint]

Wouldn't have dropped Mara myself, but I'm not the manager and I haven't seen them in training this week. I'm sure he will get some minutes though.

Happy with the Lavia, JWP and Diallo midfield 3 again. Makes us much stronger as a unit and much less easy to play through. 

[DT]

  On 14/01/2023 at 14:07, woodsaint1 said:

You're really questioning why theres no Adam Armstrong 😂

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Yes. Because he played well, with energy. Che is appalling and shouldn’t be ahead of him at the moment. 

[saintscottofthenortham]

  On 14/01/2023 at 14:05, woodsaint1 said:

Im not sure the Everton fans will be loving 5 at the back against us

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It won’t be five at the back until we were to take a winning position. It’ll be same shape we started with against City with Lyanco RB. 

[Toadhall Saint]

  On 14/01/2023 at 14:09, saintscottofthenortham said:

It won’t be five at the back until we were to take a winning position. It’ll be same shape we started with against City with Lyanco RB. 

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I think it’s Everton with 5

[saintscottofthenortham]

If we lose this, NJ has set himself up for a huge amount of criticism.

[DT]

  On 14/01/2023 at 14:08, saintscottofthenortham said:

Have to admit, I’m really disappointed with that line up. 
 

Che, who has been truly awful, straight back in after Mara was as lively as you could ask… that’s harsh and brave.

Elyou, who the managers seem to love FFS, back in for Adarma who had his best game for us and scored here last year. 

two changes I think didn’t need to be made but happy to be proved wrong. Monumental day for us and these players haven’t been doing the job, so I’d have liked to have seen the lads who done so well on Wednesday rewarded.

Che especially needs to start bucking his ideas up, for me. No more excuses for sloppy finishing. 

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Che has been woeful all season

[Bad Wolf]

  On 14/01/2023 at 14:08, DT said:

Yes. Because he played well, with energy. Che is appalling and shouldn’t be ahead of him at the moment. 

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Yes and his energy probably hasn't stocked up yet. But yes, Che in there instead is ridiculous. Aribo played there for Rangers a few times, if you're going to have a choice between two lazy players (Aribo and Adams) you may as well go for the one who hasn't played as much just to see if he can add anything.

[saintscottofthenortham]

  On 14/01/2023 at 14:11, Toadhall Saint said:

I think it’s Everton with 5

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Oh I see. Just woke up from night shift. Ignore me. 

[DT]

  On 14/01/2023 at 14:12, saintscottofthenortham said:

If we lose this, NJ has set himself up for a huge amount of criticism.

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Play a winning side. Consistency and confidence. This looks like silly too clever by half tinkering. 

[Saint Billy]

Not exactly ecstatic about that lineup. 

[OttawaSaint]

Hmm. I don't see them in training but would have preferred Orsic for Ely and Mara for Adams.

[Saint NL]

Seeing Man City get turned over by united, maybe our performance in midweek wasn't that good, maybe city are just shite 🤔

[SotonianWill]

  On 14/01/2023 at 14:12, saintscottofthenortham said:

If we lose this, NJ has set himself up for a huge amount of criticism.

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why? your asking for wednesdays team, they only played three days ago, everton haven’t played for ages. you need to use the whole squad, which is why lavia is playing today as he was taken off. 

[DT]

  On 14/01/2023 at 14:15, Saint Billy said:

Not exactly ecstatic about that lineup. 

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Ralph 2

[Disco Stu]

Lacking the pace that made us so dangerous on Wednesday.

[The Kraken]

  On 14/01/2023 at 14:15, Saint Billy said:

Not exactly ecstatic about that lineup. 

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Me neither, not convinced that line up will press and harry like the team against City did. We’ll see.

[Midfield_General]

Six attacking players on the bench, so we can finish with 8 up front if we need a goal. 

[Chez]

 

  On 14/01/2023 at 14:18, The Kraken said:

Me neither, not convinced that line up will press and harry like the team against City did. We’ll see.

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They also need to get the press right, with players positioned correctly, which we did against City.

[Saint NL]

  On 14/01/2023 at 14:20, Midfield_General said:

Six attacking players on the bench, so we can finish with 8 up front if we need a goal. 

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I think this is the plan tbf.

Keep it tight, get the crowd on their backs and then got for it after an hour.

[DT]

Setting the tone will be so important, especially today. What Adam Armstrong gives us is constant harrying. What Che gives us is lazy lolloping, no tracking, lots of offsides and poor finishing. It’s a terrible selection blunder. 

[Chez]

  On 14/01/2023 at 14:23, DT said:

Setting the tone will be so important, especially today. What Adam Armstrong gives us is constant harrying. What Che gives us is lazy lolloping, no tracking, lots of offsides and poor finishing. It’s a terrible selection blunder. 

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not a Che fan then?

[Ken Tone]

Who's playing left back or left wing back?

[Chez]

  On 14/01/2023 at 14:27, Ken Tone said:

Who's playing left back or left wing back?

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KWP.

[Saint NL]

  On 14/01/2023 at 14:27, Ken Tone said:

Who's playing left back or left wing back?

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Edozie I think

[sfc4prem]

  On 14/01/2023 at 14:23, DT said:

Setting the tone will be so important, especially today. What Adam Armstrong gives us is constant harrying. What Che gives us is lazy lolloping, no tracking, lots of offsides and poor finishing. It’s a terrible selection blunder. 

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Che can hold up our direct play a bit better against their 5 at the back.

[pimpin4rizeal]

Damn.. adams and moi back ..

I think Orsic needs to be starting if fully fit he’s got the pedigree to be huge for us.. and would have preferred Mara or Armstrong over che tbh 

[JRM]

  On 14/01/2023 at 14:12, saintscottofthenortham said:

If we lose this, NJ has set himself up for a huge amount of criticism.

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It's Everton away at Goodison, we could have the Brazil team of 1970 and still lose 

[GGalpin]

  On 14/01/2023 at 14:28, Saint NL said:

Edozie I think

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That graphic is in formation order, Lyanco at RB and KWP at LB. Looks like a front three of Moi and Edozie either side of Adams.

[Disco Stu]

Really disappointed to see Elyounoussi back in the team. I thought we looked much more fluid in attack without him. He lacks pace and vision for this level. I hoped Orsic would spell the end of starts for him.